[tex-live] tl hosting The options for Open Source software development web sites

Martin Schröder ms at artcom-gmbh.de
Tue Jan 6 18:32:46 CET 2004

On 2004-01-06 11:51:08 -0500, Karl Berry wrote:
> We (mainly Sebastian and I) felt sourceforge, savannah, and sarovar
> would not work because, principally, they are too far away.  Almost all
> the principal TL developers are in Europe.  (I have other issues with
> all three, but I won't bother enumerating them.)  

IMHO the problem with sf and savannah are the licenses for texmf;
and for sarovar the location (it's slower) and the interface.

> Doing it ourselves is out because, as you say, we don't even have time
> to do a bang-up job with TL, let alone developing a whole hosting
> infrastructure.  We will just keep limping along as we are if we do
> nothing else.

It's just manpower. Technically it's not a problem -- get a
hosting somewhere. But the manpower is the showstopper.

> That leaves berlios.  I was not aware they had an "uncertain" future.
> Is there a definite death date or something?  When I looked around on
> the net, they seemed no more uncertain than anything else.

See http://developer.berlios.de/forum/message.php?msg_id=5376
That was in 2003-07, and they never bothered to answer.

> Anyway, I've used berlios since the savannah crack for Texinfo.  They
> have their share of problems, but they approved the project right away
> and have been fairly responsive to my various support requests.
> They also approved a texlive project.
>   http://developer.berlios.de/projects/texlive/
> I've just been playing around with it -- put the schedule into their
> "task manager", and have been putting a few bugs in.  I've been getting
> email with new or changed bugs, so perhaps they fixed the problem you
> noted.

Seems so. If you are happy there, that's fine.

> Anyway, as I said before, I think moving the sources to cvs needs
> testing, which Seb or I will try to pursue.  But I see no particular
> harm in using berlios for the infrastructure stuff it provides.

Me neither. I just didn't know the background of the decision.

Moving to CVS will be a lot of work. :-(

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