tugboat articles please

Mike Marchywka marchywka at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 13 00:33:08 CEST 2021

Thanks. I'm not sure what you mean by " pdf attachment" and maybe tried to
relate the distinct topics I put in my post. The url thing was just a distraction 
but my quesiton concerns including information in a compiled latex document,
typically pdf, so that someone wishing to cite the document could extract
bibtex the document as much as is practical.  When I  release  a technical
report draft  for example,  there is usually a print suggested bibtex in an appendix
and similar information in the extended information.  I'm using
a suggested bibtex I picked from a random website when I was just getting
started and actually do not like it at all lol but it does work. The latex
uses this thing called "mjmaddbib"  producing the extended info shown
below. It may not know what server it is on and may need to be updated
with a "retracted" status but works as a good start for another author
to use.  BomTex is a bit different in that it hopes to create
better tracking for which source documents generate traffic to other sites
( and sales ) based on clicking on links in the bibliography. 

\mjmaddbib{institution}{not institutionalized, independent }
\mjmaddbib{address}{ \mjmaddr}
% TODO FIXME add this to the skeleton text 
%\mjmaddbib{pages}{ \input{\mjmbasename.last_page}}
\mjmaddbib{pages}{ \mjmpages}

exifutil -list fibrinogen/fibrinogen.pdf
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X-bib-author                    : Mike J Marchywka
X-bib-type                      : TECHREPORT
X-bib-name                      : marchywka-MJM-DRAFT-0.00
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X-bib-address                   :  306 Charles Cox Dr, Canton GA 30115
X-bib-date                      : July 17, 2021
X-bib-day                       : 17
X-bib-month                     : 7
X-bib-year                      : 2021
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X-bib-contact                   : marchywka at hotmail.com
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 Mike Marchywka 
306 Charles Cox Drive 
Canton, GA 30115

From: Karl Berry <karl at freefriends.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 4:45 PM
To: marchywka at hotmail.com
Cc: texhax at tug.org
Subject: Re: tugboat articles please

Hi Mike,

    l.99 \tbsurl
                {ctan.org/pkg/tugboat}. For general \CTAN\ package references, we

Oops, I guess I haven't released it at all yet :). I jumped the gun on
updating the template. I'll make an ltugboat package release shortly.

It's not important for writing, though. Can just be replaced with \url.

    But there is no indication it put any useful citation info

\tbsurl is not related to citations, in the bibtex/bibliography sense.
\tbsurl{foo.com/bar} is simply an abbreviation for https://foo.com/bar.

    I have TeX related projects- BomTex for a "bill of materials" system
    derived from a bibliography and the TooBib software I keep talking
    about for discovering possible bibtex sources for a given URL- but
    probably can not submit anything meaningful in this timeframe.

Sure, I knew I was writing late in the day.
Maybe for the next issue, deadline March 31 2022 ...

    I was going to download your template on the submission info link
    but was curious if you have a standard way now to include human and
    machine readable bibtex info in the PDF files?

If you mean as a PDF attachment or some such, no, we have no explicit
support for that, though a (very) few articles have used it, over the
years, mostly for source code examples, as I recall.

My experience is that hardly anyone (including me) uses or even notices
PDF attachments.  I don't have anything against them, but I think it's
more usable to (also, at least) link to any such resources externally.

    In any case, is there a TeX or TuG preferred way to include citation
    information now?

Not in the sense of attachments. At least not as far as I
know. Certainly nothing for TUGboat.

    I like my approach :)

Sounds like a fine thing to write about, then :). --thanks, karl.

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