[tex-live] GPG message using tlpretest on OSX [was: Re: tex-live Digest, Vol 159, Issue 74]

Zdenek Wagner zdenek.wagner at gmail.com
Mon Apr 18 14:00:37 CEST 2016

As Norbert wrote, these are the stupid export/import regulations.
Cryptographical software must not be exported from USA. Once gpg becomes a
part of TL and appears on a server in the USA, it will be illegal to export
TL to other countries. Let's assume that we want to overcome this problem
by not allowing to distribute TL from USA. However, there is another
problem, cryptographical software must not be imported to France. Once gpg
becomes a part of TL, it will be illegal to use TL in France. And there may
be more similarly stupid regulations. Thus you should not complain here,
you should complain at the governments of these countries and request
cancellation of these stupid regulations.

Zdeněk Wagner

2016-04-18 13:46 GMT+02:00 Juergen Fenn <jfenn at gmx.net>:

> Am 18.04.2016 um 12:00 schrieb tex-live-request at tug.org:
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 10:18:01 +0200
> > From: Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi at alice.it>
> > To: Norbert Preining <preining at logic.at>
> > Cc: <tex-live at tug.org>
> > Subject: Re: [tex-live] GPG message using tlpretest on OSX
> > Message-ID: <57149839.9050904 at alice.it>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed
> >
> >
> >
> > Il 18/04/2016 03:49, Norbert Preining ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Probably you have gpg on Linux, and see a different message, namely
> >>      cryptographic signature of ..... verified
> >
> > Shouldn't TL comes with that gpg program for OS on which it is installed?
> >
> > After all, it already has wget, xz etc. for (almost) every platform on
> > which TL is installed.. or not?
> Just an aside on this debate:
> When I had to set up an all new OS X Mavericks system in 2014, I installed
> gpg from MacPorts, as I used to on 10.4--10.6.8. Shortly after that, the
> enigmail project announced they would drop support for gpg and replace it
> with gpg2. So I installed gpg2, only to find that enigmail on the Mac is
> incompatible with enigmail on Windows. I could only communicate with other
> Mac users. I remember longish threads on both the enigmail, and a gpg list
> at the time about those problems, which finally stem from Werner Koch's
> idea to have a demon running in the background which does not work as it
> should on platforms other than Linux.
> I still have gpg installed on my machine, but I stopped using it actively
> after that test. And I don't think it's a good idea to depend on a
> user-installed gpg for TeX Live because there are issues that depend on the
> packaging system you select and the flavour of OS X, etc. you are running.
> Everything else the Linux developers are keen to bring into the game is
> shipped with TeX Live on other platforms, including a complete Perl
> installation, etc. I think, too, this should be a part of the installation,
> or you should please think about other ways to verify the integrity of
> packages. Also, there is so much that has to be changed in TL this time
> around (luatex, xetex, the preference pane in OS X...), so you might like
> to think about postponing the crypto features until next year. Do we really
> need this? My 2 ct.
> Best regards,
> Jürgen.
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