[tex-live] Stop providing a4.sty and a4wide.sty for texlive-2009

hh hh-brasil at bol.com.br
Thu Jul 30 15:20:39 CEST 2009

They were books done with ntg-class and I would not like to loose 
the files in case of further editions.

The ntg class had certain advantages, but the use was certainly not widespread.
If we take that as a measure then probably there should be a 
(much) bigger number of files to delete.


Date sent:      	Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:53:04 +0200
From:           	Philipp Stephani <st_philipp at yahoo.de>
To:             	Robin Fairbairns <Robin.Fairbairns at cl.cam.ac.uk>
Copies to:      	tex-live at tug.org, Frank Küster <frank at kuesterei.ch>
Subject:        	Re: [tex-live] Stop providing a4.sty and a4wide.sty for texlive-2009

> Robin Fairbairns schrieb:
> > Frank Küster <frank at kuesterei.ch> wrote:
> > 
> >> Robin Fairbairns <Robin.Fairbairns at cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> the name a4.sty itself appears [used to appear] once on ctan:
> >>>   macros/latex209/contrib/misc/a4.sty
> >>> and i've moved that one (and the corresponding a4wide.sty) to
> >>> ctan:obsolete.  such a move makes little change to the way people will
> >>> view the packages, but it does provide a reference point for explaining
> >>> why those particular files are unreliable.
> >> Couldn't we move those files to a collection obsolete, then?
> > 
> > the 2.09 files, sure; but i didn't think texlive holds them.
> > 
> > there are several a4.sty in texlive; one in ntgclass, and several in
> > kopka
> > 
> > i wouldn't split ntgclass.
> Question: Does anyone actually use ntgclass any more? I've done a web
> search as well as a Google Code search, and I've found that the usage of
> these classes isn't too widespread. For example:
> http://www.google.de/codesearch?q=\\documentclass(\[[^]]*\])%3F\{(artikel[123]|rapport[13]|boek3%3F|brief)\}+lang%3Atex
> NTG classes, 32 results
> http://www.google.de/codesearch?q=\\documentclass(\[[^]]*\])%3F\{memoir\}+lang%3Atex
> Memoir, 92 results
> http://www.google.de/codesearch?q=\\documentclass(\[[^]]*\])%3F\{scr(artcl|reprt|book|lettr|lttr2)\}+lang%3Atex
> KOMA-Script, 1000 results
> http://www.google.de/codesearch?q=\\documentclass(\[[^]]*\])%3F\{(article|report|book|letter)\}+lang%3Atex
> standard classes, 27400 results
> and the last update to the NTG classes was around 2004. Are these
> classes still in active development and usage?

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