[EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?

Wed May 26 13:21:32 CEST 2021

Oh, and in case anyone else is wondering about that \226 nonsense: it's an artifact of my text editor (emacs) that it's showing me the octal raw byte:

octal 226 = decimal 150 = en dash[0] in Windows' code page 1252 [1].

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References:

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash#En_dash
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252#Character_set

On May 26, 2021 7:06:34 AM EDT, AC <achirvasub at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>On May 26, 2021 4:33:12 AM EDT, David Carlisle <d.p.carlisle at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 01:58, AC <achirvasub at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Conclusion: you can't just enter special characters from the
>>keyboard. You
>>> need to produce them with TeX commands (like the \'e for accents,
>>etc.) or
>>> specify an encoding to pass to inputenc.
>>>
>>
>>
>>That is rather misleading, You do not need  to use 
>>\UseRawInputEncoding .
>>You simply need to specify the encoding  that you use, possibly
>>\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
>>or (better) save the file in UTF-8.
>>
>
>Well, if we'll quibble so readily over precise phrasing, perhaps I
>could have a quote (from a message of mine) that indicates you NEED to
>use \UseRawInputEncoding?
>
>I never wrote that. In fact, the paragraph you quote immediately
>preceding your own specifically refers to NEEDING to specify an
>encoding.
>
>>David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> References:
>>>
>>> [0] https://www.latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews28.pdf
>>> [1] https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/429194/193209
>>>
>>> On May 25, 2021 8:24:05 PM EDT, AC <achirvasub at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On May 25, 2021 7:35:57 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
>>> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>>> >>Hi Stuart,
>>> >>
>>> >>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your help.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >You bet! You'll always find enough computer geeks on these mailing
>>> >lists who will do this out of sheer curiosity as to whether it
>works
>>> >:).
>>> >
>>> >Now, about that UTF-8 error: the complaint is
>>> >
>>> >Package inputenc Error: Invalid UTF-8 byte "96
>>> >
>>> >In a text editor, viewing the error jumps me to the following
>>passage
>>> >in your text:
>>> >
>>> >"The spherical harmonics are usually defined with an extra sign
>>> >$(-1)^m$ called the Condon\226Shortley phase to make the ladder
>>> >operator formulas simpler."
>>> >
>>> >It's that thing displayed in the source as \226 that's producing
>the
>>> >error. I don't know what it was meant to be, but in the pdf I sent
>>you
>>> >it simply doesn't render: the text appears as the (obviously wrong)
>>> >merged 'CondonShortley'.
>>> >
>>> >If it was meant to be a dash, maybe just make it a plain minus
>sign.
>>> >
>>> >On May 25, 2021 7:35:57 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
>>> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>>> >>Hi Stuart,
>>> >>
>>> >>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your help. I will install
>>TeX
>>> >>Live and try to reproduce your success and let everyone know.
>>> >>
>>> >>bob
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>bob jantzen
>>> >>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>> >>http://www.drbobenterprises.com
>>> >>
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>From: Stuart Little <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>>> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:23 PM
>>> >>To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>>> >>Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor
><P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>;
>>Dr
>>> >>Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>>> >>Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>>> >>
>>> >>On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:14:21PM +0000, Robert Jantzen wrote:
>>> >>> My apologies, I thought I had saved it after correcting it, but
>I
>>> >>saved it again after sending the cache message and then checked
>the
>>> >>link to make sure it worked.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I appreciate your efforts to help me.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>No worries.
>>> >>
>>> >>About the compilation: it was so fast because I had also unpacked
>>the
>>> >>converted-to-pdf images, so those were ready. Without unpacking
>>those
>>> >>the compilation still seems to have worked, but it took just a few
>>> >>seconds longer. In any case, it produces a pdf with working
>>> >>cross-references, as downloadable at the link I provided earlier.
>>> >>
>>> >>Here, too, is the gzipped and tarred working directory (with the
>>> >images
>>> >>placed properly in the 'images/' subdirectory, etc.):
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fvdke4p8s1kuax75%2Fdgn.tar.gz%3Fdl%3D0&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.edu%7C7fe7dfbb05e94667aa4608d91fd41ac8%7C765a8de5cf9444f09cafae5bf8cfa366%7C0%7C1%7C637575818113072811%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=VlMZF5Gn76VhiYuo8RVPgz1CXK3Xb9o8Bim6ZommRYU%3D&reserved=0
>>> >>
>>> >>This is for future reference, in case anyone else wants to try
>>> >>compiling it. What you do is unpack that directory, move in, and
>>> >>(assuming you have TeX Live) run 'pdflatex dgn.tex' a couple of
>>times.
>>> >>
>>> >>> bob
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> bob jantzen
>>> >>> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.d
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>rbobenterprises.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.e
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:00 PM
>>> >>> To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>>> >>> Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor
>><P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>;
>>> >>Dr
>>> >>> Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>>> >>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On May 25, 2021 6:56:12 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
>>> >><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>>> >>> >It was your cache I think...??
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It was not: your "corrected" link still reads 'dngimages' (just
>>look
>>> >>back at the message; you don't have to take my word for it).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I manually corrected it to 'dgnimages', so I know the cache was
>>not
>>> >>the issue.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >bob jantzen
>>> >>> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> >>> >dr
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>bobenterprises.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.e
>>> >>> >du
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >6%
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >MD
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >2a
>>> >>> >6U2sfCFB25%2BCJJ5vHNSRfc8p42WxiqVGR5jh34%3D&reserved=0
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >>> >From: Stuart Little <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>>> >>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:55 PM
>>> >>> >To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>>> >>> >Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor
>><P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>;
>>> >
>>> >>> >Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>>> >>> >Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:41:25PM +0000, Robert Jantzen wrote:
>>> >>> >> Sorry, I misspelled DifferentialGeometryNotes as dng instead
>>of
>>> >>dgn
>>> >>> >in
>>> >>> >> haste yesterday. I corrected it to
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dng
>>> >>> >i
>>> >>> >> mages.zip
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >:D That's not correct though: it's still 'dng'! No worries
>>though,
>>> >>> >since you explained what was wrong I simply corrected it and
>got
>>> >the
>>> >>
>>> >>> >source.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >The file compiled in seconds on TeX Live 2021, with one
>>> >>> >*apparently*-show-stopping UTF-8 error that I simply clicked
>>> >>'Return'
>>> >>> >to bypass (I have not tried to debug). Does this look like it's
>>> >>> >worked fine? You can find the result at
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> >>> >.d
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>ropbox.com%2Fs%2Fv1zvklzaubu8b9j%2Fdgn.pdf%3Fdl%3D0&data=04%7C01%
>>> >>> >7C
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >65
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >7C
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >CI
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >El
>>> >>> >c%3D&reserved=0
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >I should note, in that pdf I am able to navigate cross-links
>>just
>>> >>> >fine (I can jump to table-of-contents items, or images, or
>>> >whatever,
>>> >>
>>> >>> >by simply clicking the hyperlinks in the document).
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> I did not intend anyone to waste much time on this, but it is
>>> >>> >frustrating that these different packages fail on me! I do have
>>> >>> >administrator access to my windows 10 machine.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> bob
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> bob jantzen
>>> >>> >> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> >>> >d
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>rbobenterprises.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.
>>> >>> >e
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >3
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>> >=
>>> >>> >>
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>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> >> From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>>> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:35 PM
>>> >>> >> To: texhax at tug.org; Robert Jantzen
>>> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>;
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr Alan
>>> >Litchfield
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>>> >>> >> Cc: texhax at tug.org
>>> >>> >> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On May 25, 2021 6:03:40 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
>>> >>> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>>> >>> >> >This is my book:
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/in
>>> >>> >>d
>>> >>> >> >ex .htm The complete LaTeX source consists of two zipped
>>files
>>> >>here:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/te
>>> >>> >>x
>>> >>> >> >di
>>> >>> >> >stribution.htm
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> If I visit this last link I get to a page that in turn points
>>me
>>> >>to
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> -
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgn
>>> >>> >t
>>> >>> >> exfiles2021.zip
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> -
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dng
>>> >>> >i
>>> >>> >> mages.zip
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> and
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> -
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgn
>>> >>> >i
>>> >>> >> magesepspdf.zip
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> The second one of those, presumably, is supposed to contain
>>> >>images.
>>> >>> >> Alas, it doesn't work: clicking it results in
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Not Found
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> The requested URL
>/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngimages.zip
>>> >was
>>> >>> >not found on this server.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Apache/2.2.15 (Oracle) Server at www34.homepage.villanova.edu
>>> >Port
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> 80
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> ---
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Ironic, given that abandoned websites came up in a companion
>>> >>thread
>>> >>> >not too long ago :).
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> >This folder contains also the "converted-to-pdf.pdf" image
>>files
>>> >>> >from
>>> >>> >> >using MikTex Texworks or TexnicCenter (I cannot remember any
>>> >more
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >what I did back in the early teens of this decade):
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dg
>>> >>> >>n
>>> >>> >> >im
>>> >>> >> >agesepspdf.zip
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >Should I try Tex Live next?
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >How is this possible? I really don't understand. Also how
>did
>>> >you
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >guys get my email shot in the dark at TUG?
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >bob
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >bob jantzen
>>> >>> >> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> >>> >> >dr
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>
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>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >From: Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>
>>> >>> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:24 AM
>>> >>> >> >To: Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>; Robert
>Jantzen
>>> >>> >> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>>> >>> >> >Cc: texhax at tug.org
>>> >>> >> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >Dr Alan Litchfield wrote:
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >[Download the iso image and] mount it onto your computer.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >Not possible under Windows 7, Alan, unless additional
>>software
>>> >is
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >installed.  But to Bob :
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >I have been happily using PCTeX all these years, and will
>>> >>continue
>>> >>> >to
>>> >>> >> >do so but it seems like PCTeX has left us in the past two
>>years
>>> >>> >since
>>> >>> >> >I communicated with someone there at the company. Does
>anyone
>>> >>know
>>> >>> >> >what happened to them?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>> >> >ax
>>> >>> >> >SPYUEP3c%3D&reserved=0>
>>> >>> >> >website seems abandoned
>>> >>> >> >Is there any other for pay product to replace it?
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >Pass.  Although I used to pay for TeX back in the Kellerman
>&
>>> >>> >> >Smith days, I have not done so since then, and have never
>>paid
>>> >>for
>>> >>> >> >a PC version.  Many years ago the late, great, Sebastian
>>Rahtz
>>> >>> >> >persuaded me to switch to TeX Live, and I have never looked
>>> >back.
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >In the past
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >I would use the network installer, or download and burn the
>>ISO,
>>> >
>>> >>> >> >or download and mount the ISO, but these days I use Rsynch
>to
>>> >>> >> >fetch the
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >installation suite and install from my local copy.  The real
>>> >>> >> >problem
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >is that TeX Live is not a Windows product - it is a generic
>>> >>> >> >product that has to support $2^n+1$ variant operating
>systems
>>> >>(how
>>> >>> >> >many different ways can you spell "Linux" ?), and as a
>result
>>> >the
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >documentation too has to be generic, which is distinctly
>>> >>> >sub-optimal.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >I am certain that together the TeX user community will be
>>able
>>> >to
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >assist you, but some background information will be vital,
>>and
>>> >it
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >will almost certainly take several iterations before we
>>achieve
>>> >>> >> >complete success.  So, questions :
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >  1.  Exactly which operating system are you running  2. 
>Are
>>> >you
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> > able to access your computer as am administrator 3.
>>> >>> >Do
>>> >>> >> >you have fast Internet access from your computer ?  (where
>>> >"fast"
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >=>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >better than 10Mbps) ?
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >And to my fellow TeX and Windows users - given that one can
>>> >>> >> >install (for example) Windows 7 from a USB stick, using the
>>> >>> >> >Microsoft
>>> >>> >Windows
>>> >>> >> >USB/DVD download
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>> >> >B2 Mk6TvLg5oc%3D&reserved=0>, has anyone investigated
>>> >whether
>>> >>
>>> >>> >> >an
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >analogous methodology could be used to install TeX Live from
>>a
>>> >>USB
>>> >>> >> >stick for people such as Bob who lack a DVD reader ?
>>> >>> >> >--
>>> >>> >> >Philip Taylor
>>>
>>>