[EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?

AC achirvasub at gmail.com
Wed May 26 02:24:05 CEST 2021 

On May 25, 2021 7:35:57 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>Hi Stuart,
>
>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your help.
>

You bet! You'll always find enough computer geeks on these mailing lists who will do this out of sheer curiosity as to whether it works :).

Now, about that UTF-8 error: the complaint is 

Package inputenc Error: Invalid UTF-8 byte "96

In a text editor, viewing the error jumps me to the following passage in your text:

"The spherical harmonics are usually defined with an extra sign $(-1)^m$ called the Condon\226Shortley phase to make the ladder operator formulas simpler."

It's that thing displayed in the source as \226 that's producing the error. I don't know what it was meant to be, but in the pdf I sent you it simply doesn't render: the text appears as the (obviously wrong) merged 'CondonShortley'.

If it was meant to be a dash, maybe just make it a plain minus sign.

On May 25, 2021 7:35:57 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>Hi Stuart,
>
>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your help. I will install TeX
>Live and try to reproduce your success and let everyone know.
>
>bob
>
>
>bob jantzen
>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>http://www.drbobenterprises.com 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stuart Little <achirvasub at gmail.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:23 PM
>To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr
>Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>
>On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:14:21PM +0000, Robert Jantzen wrote:
>> My apologies, I thought I had saved it after correcting it, but I
>saved it again after sending the cache message and then checked the
>link to make sure it worked.
>> 
>> I appreciate your efforts to help me.
>> 
>
>No worries.
>
>About the compilation: it was so fast because I had also unpacked the
>converted-to-pdf images, so those were ready. Without unpacking those
>the compilation still seems to have worked, but it took just a few
>seconds longer. In any case, it produces a pdf with working
>cross-references, as downloadable at the link I provided earlier.
>
>Here, too, is the gzipped and tarred working directory (with the images
>placed properly in the 'images/' subdirectory, etc.):
>
>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fvdke4p8s1kuax75%2Fdgn.tar.gz%3Fdl%3D0&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.edu%7C7fe7dfbb05e94667aa4608d91fd41ac8%7C765a8de5cf9444f09cafae5bf8cfa366%7C0%7C1%7C637575818113072811%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=VlMZF5Gn76VhiYuo8RVPgz1CXK3Xb9o8Bim6ZommRYU%3D&reserved=0
>
>This is for future reference, in case anyone else wants to try
>compiling it. What you do is unpack that directory, move in, and
>(assuming you have TeX Live) run 'pdflatex dgn.tex' a couple of times.
>
>> bob
>> 
>> 
>> bob jantzen
>> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:00 PM
>> To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>> Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>;
>Dr 
>> Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 25, 2021 6:56:12 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>> >It was your cache I think...??
>> >
>> 
>> It was not: your "corrected" link still reads 'dngimages' (just look
>back at the message; you don't have to take my word for it). 
>> 
>> I manually corrected it to 'dgnimages', so I know the cache was not
>the issue.
>> 
>> >
>> >bob jantzen
>> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>
>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> >dr 
>>
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>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Stuart Little <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:55 PM
>> >To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>> >Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; 
>> >Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>> >Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>> >
>> >On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:41:25PM +0000, Robert Jantzen wrote:
>> >> Sorry, I misspelled DifferentialGeometryNotes as dng instead of
>dgn
>> >in
>> >> haste yesterday. I corrected it to
>> >>
>>
>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dng
>> >i
>> >> mages.zip
>> >>
>> >
>> >:D That's not correct though: it's still 'dng'! No worries though, 
>> >since you explained what was wrong I simply corrected it and got the
>
>> >source.
>> >
>> >The file compiled in seconds on TeX Live 2021, with one 
>> >*apparently*-show-stopping UTF-8 error that I simply clicked
>'Return'
>> >to bypass (I have not tried to debug). Does this look like it's 
>> >worked fine? You can find the result at
>> >
>>
>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>> >.d 
>>
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>> >
>> >I should note, in that pdf I am able to navigate cross-links just 
>> >fine (I can jump to table-of-contents items, or images, or whatever,
>
>> >by simply clicking the hyperlinks in the document).
>> >
>> >> I did not intend anyone to waste much time on this, but it is
>> >frustrating that these different packages fail on me! I do have 
>> >administrator access to my windows 10 machine.
>> >> 
>> >> bob
>> >> 
>> >> bob jantzen
>> >> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>> >>
>>
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>> >> 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:35 PM
>> >> To: texhax at tug.org; Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>;
>
>> >> Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr Alan Litchfield
>
>> >> <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>> >> Cc: texhax at tug.org
>> >> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On May 25, 2021 6:03:40 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
>> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>> >> >This is my book:
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/in
>> >>d
>> >> >ex .htm The complete LaTeX source consists of two zipped files
>here:
>> >>
>>
>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/te
>> >>x
>> >> >di
>> >> >stribution.htm
>> >> >
>> >> 
>> >> If I visit this last link I get to a page that in turn points me
>to
>> >> 
>> >> -
>> >>
>>
>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgn
>> >t
>> >> exfiles2021.zip
>> >> 
>> >> -
>> >>
>>
>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dng
>> >i
>> >> mages.zip
>> >> 
>> >> and
>> >> 
>> >> -
>> >>
>>
>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgn
>> >i
>> >> magesepspdf.zip
>> >> 
>> >> The second one of those, presumably, is supposed to contain
>images. 
>> >> Alas, it doesn't work: clicking it results in
>> >> 
>> >> Not Found
>> >> 
>> >> The requested URL /robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngimages.zip was
>> >not found on this server.
>> >> 
>> >> Apache/2.2.15 (Oracle) Server at www34.homepage.villanova.edu Port
>
>> >> 80
>> >> 
>> >> ---
>> >> 
>> >> Ironic, given that abandoned websites came up in a companion
>thread
>> >not too long ago :).
>> >> 
>> >> >This folder contains also the "converted-to-pdf.pdf" image files
>> >from
>> >> >using MikTex Texworks or TexnicCenter (I cannot remember any more
>
>> >> >what I did back in the early teens of this decade):
>> >>
>>
>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dg
>> >>n
>> >> >im
>> >> >agesepspdf.zip
>> >> >
>> >> >Should I try Tex Live next?
>> >> >
>> >> >How is this possible? I really don't understand. Also how did you
>
>> >> >guys get my email shot in the dark at TUG?
>> >> >
>> >> >bob
>> >> >
>> >> >bob jantzen
>> >> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>> >>
>>
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>> >> >dr
>> >>
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>> >> >From: Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>
>> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:24 AM
>> >> >To: Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>; Robert Jantzen 
>> >> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>> >> >Cc: texhax at tug.org
>> >> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>> >> >
>> >> >Dr Alan Litchfield wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >[Download the iso image and] mount it onto your computer.
>> >> >
>> >> >Not possible under Windows 7, Alan, unless additional software is
>
>> >> >installed.  But to Bob :
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I have been happily using PCTeX all these years, and will
>continue
>> >to
>> >> >do so but it seems like PCTeX has left us in the past two years
>> >since
>> >> >I communicated with someone there at the company. Does anyone
>know 
>> >> >what happened to them?
>> >>
>>
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>> >> >website seems abandoned
>> >> >Is there any other for pay product to replace it?
>> >> >
>> >> >Pass.  Although I used to pay for TeX back in the Kellerman & 
>> >> >Smith days, I have not done so since then, and have never paid
>for 
>> >> >a PC version.  Many years ago the late, great, Sebastian Rahtz 
>> >> >persuaded me to switch to TeX Live, and I have never looked back.
> 
>> >> >In the past
>> >
>> >> >I would use the network installer, or download and burn the ISO, 
>> >> >or download and mount the ISO, but these days I use Rsynch to 
>> >> >fetch the
>> >
>> >> >installation suite and install from my local copy.  The real 
>> >> >problem
>> >
>> >> >is that TeX Live is not a Windows product - it is a generic 
>> >> >product that has to support $2^n+1$ variant operating systems
>(how 
>> >> >many different ways can you spell "Linux" ?), and as a result the
>
>> >> >documentation too has to be generic, which is distinctly
>> >sub-optimal.
>> >> >
>> >> >I am certain that together the TeX user community will be able to
>
>> >> >assist you, but some background information will be vital, and it
>
>> >> >will almost certainly take several iterations before we achieve 
>> >> >complete success.  So, questions :
>> >> >
>> >> >  1.  Exactly which operating system are you running  2.  Are you
>
>> >> > able to access your computer as am administrator 3.
>> >Do
>> >> >you have fast Internet access from your computer ?  (where "fast"
>
>> >> >=>
>> >
>> >> >better than 10Mbps) ?
>> >> >
>> >> >And to my fellow TeX and Windows users - given that one can 
>> >> >install (for example) Windows 7 from a USB stick, using the 
>> >> >Microsoft
>> >Windows
>> >> >USB/DVD download
>> >>
>>
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>> >> >B2 Mk6TvLg5oc%3D&reserved=0>, has anyone investigated whether
>
>> >> >an
>> >
>> >> >analogous methodology could be used to install TeX Live from a
>USB 
>> >> >stick for people such as Bob who lack a DVD reader ?
>> >> >--
>> >> >Philip Taylor

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