[EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?

Robert Jantzen robert.jantzen at villanova.edu
Wed May 26 00:56:12 CEST 2021


It was your cache I think...??


bob jantzen
http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
http://www.drbobenterprises.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Little <achirvasub at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:55 PM
To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:41:25PM +0000, Robert Jantzen wrote:
> Sorry, I misspelled DifferentialGeometryNotes as dng instead of dgn in 
> haste yesterday. I corrected it to 
> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngi
> mages.zip
>

:D That's not correct though: it's still 'dng'! No worries though, since you explained what was wrong I simply corrected it and got the source.

The file compiled in seconds on TeX Live 2021, with one *apparently*-show-stopping UTF-8 error that I simply clicked 'Return' to bypass (I have not tried to debug). Does this look like it's worked fine? You can find the result at

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fv1zvklzaubu8b9j%2Fdgn.pdf%3Fdl%3D0&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.edu%7Cecc92b3ee71a4d9a77ab08d91fd0229b%7C765a8de5cf9444f09cafae5bf8cfa366%7C0%7C1%7C637575801075724251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=IAnrSf%2FZOkT9AaxgWjaBsCjbYFesQGrT06UNHwyZU%2BY%3D&reserved=0

I should note, in that pdf I am able to navigate cross-links just fine (I can jump to table-of-contents items, or images, or whatever, by simply clicking the hyperlinks in the document).

> I did not intend anyone to waste much time on this, but it is frustrating that these different packages fail on me! I do have administrator access to my windows 10 machine.
> 
> bob
> 
> bob jantzen
> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:35 PM
> To: texhax at tug.org; Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>; 
> Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr Alan Litchfield 
> <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
> Cc: texhax at tug.org
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
> 
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2021 6:03:40 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
> >This is my book:
> >
> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/ind
> >ex .htm The complete LaTeX source consists of two zipped files here:
> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/tex
> >di
> >stribution.htm
> >
> 
> If I visit this last link I get to a page that in turn points me to
> 
> - 
> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgnt
> exfiles2021.zip
> 
> - 
> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngi
> mages.zip
> 
> and
> 
> - 
> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgni
> magesepspdf.zip
> 
> The second one of those, presumably, is supposed to contain images. 
> Alas, it doesn't work: clicking it results in
> 
> Not Found
> 
> The requested URL /robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngimages.zip was not found on this server.
> 
> Apache/2.2.15 (Oracle) Server at www34.homepage.villanova.edu Port 80
> 
> ---
> 
> Ironic, given that abandoned websites came up in a companion thread not too long ago :).
> 
> >This folder contains also the "converted-to-pdf.pdf" image files from 
> >using MikTex Texworks or TexnicCenter (I cannot remember any more 
> >what I did back in the early teens of this decade):
> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgn
> >im
> >agesepspdf.zip
> >
> >Should I try Tex Live next?
> >
> >How is this possible? I really don't understand. Also how did you 
> >guys get my email shot in the dark at TUG?
> >
> >bob
> >
> >bob jantzen
> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
> >https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> >dr 
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> >
> >From: Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:24 AM
> >To: Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>; Robert Jantzen 
> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
> >Cc: texhax at tug.org
> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
> >
> >Dr Alan Litchfield wrote:
> >
> >[Download the iso image and] mount it onto your computer.
> >
> >Not possible under Windows 7, Alan, unless additional software is 
> >installed.  But to Bob :
> >
> >
> >I have been happily using PCTeX all these years, and will continue to 
> >do so but it seems like PCTeX has left us in the past two years since 
> >I communicated with someone there at the company. Does anyone know 
> >what happened to them?
> >https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> >.p 
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> >website seems abandoned
> >Is there any other for pay product to replace it?
> >
> >Pass.  Although I used to pay for TeX back in the Kellerman & Smith 
> >days, I have not done so since then, and have never paid for a PC 
> >version.  Many years ago the late, great, Sebastian Rahtz persuaded 
> >me to switch to TeX Live, and I have never looked back.  In the past 
> >I would use the network installer, or download and burn the ISO, or 
> >download and mount the ISO, but these days I use Rsynch to fetch the 
> >installation suite and install from my local copy.  The real problem 
> >is that TeX Live is not a Windows product - it is a generic product 
> >that has to support $2^n+1$ variant operating systems (how many 
> >different ways can you spell "Linux" ?), and as a result the 
> >documentation too has to be generic, which is distinctly sub-optimal.
> >
> >I am certain that together the TeX user community will be able to 
> >assist you, but some background information will be vital, and it 
> >will almost certainly take several iterations before we achieve 
> >complete success.  So, questions :
> >
> >  1.  Exactly which operating system are you running
> >  2.  Are you able to access your computer as am administrator 3.  Do 
> >you have fast Internet access from your computer ?  (where "fast" => 
> >better than 10Mbps) ?
> >
> >And to my fellow TeX and Windows users - given that one can install 
> >(for example) Windows 7 from a USB stick, using the Microsoft Windows 
> >USB/DVD download 
> >tool<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%
> >2F 
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> >B2 Mk6TvLg5oc%3D&reserved=0>, has anyone investigated whether an 
> >analogous methodology could be used to install TeX Live from a USB 
> >stick for people such as Bob who lack a DVD reader ?
> >--
> >Philip Taylor



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