html management and generation packages- do they offer "bibtex" generation? :)

Mike Marchywka marchywka at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 25 20:50:47 CEST 2019


On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 06:22:28PM +0000, Schneider, Thomas (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:
> Mike:
> 
> > I was just digging through more html from a somewhat scholarly webpage ( popular audience
> > but using scientific literature ) that would be nice to cite in a bunch of publication
> > types I could imagine. It looked like from the comments their pages were generated
> > by some package ( the name escapes me now but probably these are easy to find or
> > well known among web people ). Any hope of getting them to make a bibtex button
> > as easy as a bunch of share buttons? I'm still trying to scrape up bibtex from 
> > these sites and they would probably be happy if it was easier to credit them.
> 
> It will depend entirely on the site.

Thanks, but I was wondering if bypassing the site and going to the people who
make popular html generation/mangement packages ( assuming these actually
exist as I understand them to )  would work any better.
I started as you suggest below- first it was taking a pubmed or pmc
link and getting a bibtex from that but it quickly expanded although
I now have bib files segregated as it only fetches the pubmed
entries when citations are discovered while building the pdf :)
Now, I'm going off into ad hoc pages that don't seem to know or
care about citations, just shares, and trying to determine if it is possible
to scrape the html for bibtex entry pieces. If the webmaster  just downloads an open source
asset management thing- maybe they have a bunch of text and images and 
some xml and the package gives the site a "look and feel" or something-
getting the management code to include citations along with share may
be a worthwhile effort. 
I'm not sure most sites would know or care one way of the other, heck with more 
buttons in a share row maybe it looks better no idea. 
fwiw. 
 



> 
> I use two methods:
> 
> 1.  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/yvp.html
> 
> yvp is a script that takes the year, volume and page of a paper and
> finds it in PubMed.  Obviously it only works for biomedical papers,
> but it can work well.  yvpg GUESSES what is the year, volume and page
> in the cut/paste buffer and then calls yvp.  One can use these to go
> from a reference at the end of a paper to the PubMed page in a few
> seconds.  Given the PubMedID, my mq script makes the bibtex entry.
> 
> 2.  Google: Just grab everything of the reference; this can give
> the PubMed.
> 
> > Also whatever happened to the "webmaster" mail address? Too much spam? LOL.
> 
> Probably spam ... they will almost always have a way to contact them,
> usually a "webmail" which forces one to keep one's own record unless
> they allow you to send a copy to yourself.
> 
> Tom
> 
>   Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>   Senior Investigator
>   National Institutes of Health
>   National Cancer Institute
>   Center for Cancer Research
>   RNA Biology Laboratory
>   Biological Information Theory Group
>   Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>   schneidt at mail.nih.gov
>   https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms
> 

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