# [texhax] bigfoot.sty and paired footnotes

Uwe Lueck uwe.lueck at web.de
Sun Jun 14 16:39:48 CEST 2009

(answer was not on list, while I think some people interested in critical editions are reading here.)

"Marcel Knie" <sleep.well at gmx.de> schrieb am 14.06.2009 15:17:57:
> hi,
>
> i think you misunderstood me, the "2" is only an example. So I try to explain again with an miniimage. If this still not enough you can find exactly what my needs are, here: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~latex/Materialien/bigfoot.pdf
>
> ----------------------------
> |
> |
> |
> | te'[xt text text]' text
> | text'' text text text
> | text [te'''xt text text'''
> | text]
> |
> | footnoteapparatus
> | '-' explanation
> | '' explanation
> | '''-''' explanation
> |
> ----------------------------
>
> ': stands for a letter or number

Not much clearer. bigfoot.pdf looks like having been arranged manually, rather than what has ever been implemented in TeX.

"paired footnotes" look a little like numbering pagewise by letters, while it was overlooked that one note was removed and the numbering wasn't correct anymore.

If a key idea is choosing footnote marks manually, this can be done as I suggested before, just think of optional arguments for footnote commands.

(My last suggestion was "\note{lemma}{remark}" expanding to "\footnotemark lemma\addtocounter{footnote}{-1}\footnote{remark}")

\note could have an optional argument such that "\note[<symbol>]{lemma}{remark}" expands to "{\def\thempfn{<symbol>}\footnotemark lemma \footnote{remark}}".

To typeset the footnote mark differently in the apparatus, we might modify LaTeX's internal \@makefntext. But before becoming more TeXnical, we need to know something more specific on the footnote layout and how footnote marks are chosen.

> P.S. I tried to contact David Kastrup, but after I described my problem he haven't answered yet.

Somebody else wrote me that David Kastrup didn't answer a question about bigfoot. He may think that he can't afford doing any more work at bigfoot without being paid. However, he likes to comment on mailing lists.

Curious,

Uwe.

> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:14:49 +0200
> > Von: Uwe Lueck <uwe.lueck at web.de>
> > An: Erik Norvelle <signups2 at norvelle.org>, Marcel Knie <sleep.well at gmx.de>
> > CC: texhax at tug.org
> > Betreff: Re: [texhax] bigfoot.sty and paired footnotes
>
> > Erik Norvelle <signups2 at norvelle.org> schrieb am 13.06.2009 17:48:15:
> > > I haven't used the bigfoot package, but there exists a set of LaTeX
> > > packages for editing critical editions, which permit maintaining two
> > > or more footnote streams on a given page. These are called ledmac and
> > > ledpar, and are currently being maintained by Vafa Khalighi (vafa@
> > > users.berlios.de).
> >
> > ledpar is essentially used for translations. The "paired footnotes"
> > facility is neither implemented in ledmac currently (as it is not in ednotes).
> >
> > For comparisons of ledmac and ednotes, google for ledmac and ednotes at
> > the same time.
> >
> > HTH -- Uwe.
> >
> > > On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Marcel Knie wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to edit a critical edition of a medivial source and heared
> > > about the latexpackage bigfoot by David Kastrup to do this. But I
> > > have a big problem: the publisher want to have so called paired
> > > footnotes for the footnote apparatus and I can't manage it. here is
> > > an example how it have to look like:
> > >
> > > ----------------------
> > > | |
> > > | Fran²cois Vatable² |
> > > | |
> > > | |
> > > | |
> > > | |
> > > | |
> > > | Footnoteapparatus: |
> > > | 2-2 blablabla |
> > > | |
> > > ----------------------
>