[texhax] Omega

klists at saphor.de klists at saphor.de
Thu Aug 26 14:23:00 CEST 2004

On Wed, 20-08-25, 2004 at 11:38:08AM -0400, Karl Berry wrote:
>     Just curious if anybody of you knows about the current state of Omega
> Omega itself is still being worked on, as you note.
> There is an omega-system.sourceforge.net now, set up fairly recently,
> but unfortunately I don't think it has ever become active, in terms of
> source being uploaded, etc.  And the home page there redirects to
> http://omega.cse.unsw.edu.au, so that's no help.  (The home page for
> Omega has always been quite unstable, sadly.)

Thanks for your long and very informative answer. 

Sad state of affairs. I've first heard of Omega by hearsay in 1999,
but did not follow it up then because it sounded somewhat too much in
flux and neither sufficient documentation nor source were available
(or so it appeared to me). Now, things aren't all that different, it

I checked the omega-system.sourceforge.net URL, though to no avail....

> One related project is aleph (formerly eOmega), which adds e-tex to
> Omega, fixes some nagging minor bugs that impact practical use, etc.
> That project is led by Giuseppe Bilotta.  Again, I don't know of any
> public web site for it.

Never heard of e-tex. A google search pointed me to a Eclipse plug in
for LaTeX of that name -- doesn't quite seem to fit the bill.

I need to get up to speed again with all those new acronyms ;-)

Any idea how large the team behind Giuseppe Bilotta currently is

> We do include aleph and Omega in TeX Live, so you can find last year's
> sources on those CD's.  

I'll look them up.

> If you want to see the current development
> sources, let me know.

Yes, with my great pleasure.

> There were several papers at TUG 2003 about aleph and omega.  See
> http://tug.org/TUGboat/Contents/contents24-1.html (multilingual document
> processing).  You can find contact addresses for the various people in
> those papers.

OK, I'll read those articles up once back home. 

>     and where there might be an active mailing list dedicated to it.
> I do not know of any active mailing list :(.


> In general, common/public infrastructure has always been sadly lacking
> with Omega ...


Bad news.

Best regards,


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