[tex-live] collection-science

Norbert Preining preining at logic.at
Sun Nov 6 00:09:51 CET 2016

Even with a versioned install- nothing would change, because this is solely information obtained from the server. If you want something 100% the same you have to archive all of tlnet at a certain point in time.

On November 6, 2016 7:56:11 AM GMT+09:00, Tomalak Geret'kal <tom at kera.name> wrote:
>On 05/11/2016 22:34, Norbert Preining wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> too many emails, so just a few lines:
>> * profiles have never been ment to be a general purpose tool for
>>    installation, but mostly to enable restart of interrupted ones.
>>    I know they are used a lot now.
>> * I will improve profile handling in the installer:
>>    - better support to create them from the installer
>>    - warning/error when wrong keys are included
>>    - short explanation of syntax of the file
>Thank you - that would be perfect.
>>> I don't know what a scheme is.
>> Sorry, if you don't know what a scheme is then I am a bit
>> surprised - did you ever install TeX Live yourselft?
>Yes, many times - I am simply missing some terminology. I 
>will research what a "scheme" is.
>>> It may only be one line to fix it, but the effect is absolute
>failure - almost none of my docs built any more due to suddenly missing
>packages. Also, the failure was completely silent at the installation
>phase (the installation should have error'd out rather than just
>ignoring the removed collection) and I had to update and rebuild all 6
>build server configurations in order to get usable systems again.
>> It is not an absolute failure only because your documents do not
>> You asked to install a set of collection and they were dutifully
>Sorry but, no, they weren't! collection-science was silently 
>/not/ installed, and it contained packages upon which I 
>relied. An announcement on a mailing list that this would 
>cease to work would have given me notice to update my 
>profiles at a quiet and convenient time.
>As it was, I only noticed this because I had to do an 
>emergency rebuild of the server profiles for another reason, 
>then the TeXLive rebuild didn't work as expected and this 
>occurred at the worst possible time!
>I concede that doing an install-latest-from-web in what is 
>supposed to be a reproducible build server image is not 
>ideal, and that's my fault. Eventually I want to have proper 
>self-contained installs. Eventually, I will probably end up 
>archiving TeXLive 201n locally and rebuild from that. If 
>install-tl-unx.tar.gz were versioned then I could at least 
>download a specific, known-good version and avoid exposing 
>myself to breaking changes like this, but the web download 
>doesn't seem to work that way.
>Anyway, I'm glad that the cause has been determined and 
>things will improve a little in the future.
>Thanks for your help.

PREINING Norbert + TeX Live & Debian Developer + http://www.preining.info
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