[tex-live] apparent bug in detex

cfrees at imapmail.org cfrees at imapmail.org
Mon Nov 1 23:10:17 CET 2010

On Mon 1st Nov, 2010 at 07:57, Robin Fairbairns seems to have written:

> cfrees at imapmail.org wrote:
>> It works reasonably well for things like papers, though. I can't
>> imagine that sort of construction being a problem there. In any case,
>> it is currently what TeXShop uses and it is very handy to be able to
>> get statistics in TeXShop without having to change applications. I know
>> it is not entirely accurate at the best of times.
>> I would like to be able to get an accurate word count in some way. But
>> there doesn't seem to be a good way of doing this for (La)TeX documents.
> the best you can do for latex documents, i think, is wordcount, which
> uses various trickery to make every latex line a single word (iirc),
> which you then count the lines of.

I did some investigating when I found the problem with detex and tried
to use wordcount but couldn't get it to work. I didn't pursue this in
any depth but the error messages vaguely suggested to me that it might
not work for documents designed for use with pdflatex. But I could be
quite wrong and this not be the source of the problem at all.

>> If I can't get an accurate count, an overestimate is usually better
>> than an underestimate because I'm usually trying to get something
>> within a word limit. And footnotes need to be included in my counts.
> hence my suggestion of a switch; i think norbert's "semantic" argument
> is a rational one.

This would be good if it was able to treat both \footnote{} and
footnote environments consistently.


>> I would also like to be able to get quick statistics in TeXShop.
>> Usually, I've relied on TeXShop's statistics and, thus, detex.  Right
>> now I'm using the 2009 version of detex although this is something of a
>> hack.
>> I just discovered texcount which can give me a more accurate result
>> although it isn't perfect either.
>> But, anyway, if it is regarded as a feature to count some footnotes but
>> not others, so be it. I think that's a strange feature, but who am I to
>> say?
> a suggestion from karl would carry more weight than most, but if no-one
> else wants to try, i'll mail trinkle to suggest a -f switch.
> robin

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