[tex-live] tlmgr query

Zdenek Wagner zdenek.wagner at gmail.com
Sun Jul 26 19:04:54 CEST 2009

2009/7/26 Rowland McDonnell <rjmmnet-lists at yahoo.co.uk>:
> [snip]
>>> It would be very stupid of me to follow that advice, because doing so
>>> would certainly break my TeX installation.
>>Most certainly not, but anyway.
> I've been given that assurance before, and it was false then too.
> So I don't think I'll take your word for it and I will continue in my
> so-far fruitless attempt to learn enough about MacTeX that I might one
> day be able to use some of the fancy tools it's got for maintenance -
> all of which are pretty much useless for me.
> I've been at the job for three years now and I've not really got
> anywhere at all - I am almost as much in the dark now as when I started,
> thanks to the uselessness of the documentation and the unhelpful
> attitude of experts like you.
> So I maintain my TeX setup by hand and only by hand.  If I want to add a
> LaTeX package, I add it by hand to my `local additions' texmf tree,
> totally separate from all the TeX Live automation.
Have you read my yesterday's email? Can you create a directory under
/some/path/texlive/texmf-local/tex/latex, copy your file(s) there and
run mktexlsr without any command line arguments? What else do you
need? Do you expect that we will teach you to make directories and
copy files? Do you expect that someone explains you how come that
kpathsea finds the file in a directory mentioned in the texmf.cnf

> I generally do not perform updates of parts of the TeX system - I just
> leave it all as supplied until the next major release of MacTeX.  If a
> TeX Live supplied package really must be updated, I'll put the new
> version in my `local additions' texmf tree.  It's the only safe and sure
> way.
> If there's a better way, I've yet to have it explained to me in terms
> that I understand.  I'm sure you'll insult me over that point.
>>> I'm only really interested in the outer workings, but it seems that
>>> you're not at all happy about me learning them.
>>No, I am not happy about writing hours on emails answering questions
>>only you are posing.
> [snip]
> Which explains why you do not answer my questions but instead fill your
> emails with snidely upseting remarks and deliberate unhelpfulness.
> But I think it's very odd that you think it's wrong to answer questions
> that one person asks.  Back in the days when I was a teacher, all the
> questions I answered in class were questions that one person asked.
> I think it's a pity that you were willing to spend considerable time
> writing deliberately unhelpful and upsettingly insulting emails in
> response to me, but were not willing to try to help me at all.
> Rowland.

Zdeněk Wagner

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