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Math Time / Lucida / MathPi implementation of math encoding
- To: Frank Mittelbach <Frank.Mittelbach@Uni-Mainz.DE>
- Subject: Math Time / Lucida / MathPi implementation of math encoding
- From: Thierry Bouche <Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr>
- Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:08:32 +0200 (MET DST)
- Cc: Ulrik Vieth <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org
Concernant « Math Time / Lucida / MathPi implementation of math encoding », Frank Mittelbach écrit :
> Ulrik Vieth writes:
> > > did someone try to implement these encodings with Mathematical Pi or
> > > Lucida (the 2 rather complete math glyph conatiners i know)?
> > Sorry, but I'm afraid the answer is plain and simply, because none
> > of the current activist have access to those, so we're stuck with
> > whatever is freely avaiably to everyone who has a PostScript printer,
> > consisting of
> > [...]
> > As for MathTime, MathPi, or Lucida, you're welcome to try it out
> > yourself, if you're in a lucky position to have access to those.
> a while back GUTenberg was looking for proposals to support worthwhile
> projects and I suggested to finish off the work that Justin (also
> supported by GUTenberg). I think in some sense that triggered the
> current effort although so far there is no financial support by
> GUTenberg for Matthias or Ulrik, or is there?
i do have the 3 sets, the 2 sold by y&y have been given to me by
Berthold in order to prepare the translation of my `mathfonts hacked'
paper in TUGboat. The other one is a clone but it's enough for
testing purposes, especially as long as you use the genuine AFMs.
i believe that MathTime is more restrictive than MathPi and not very
well designed, that's why i omitted it.
the next problem is that you can't publish font charts with y&y fonts,
as it would be the same as giving them away. You could however publish
bitmapped PS (i do it for my MinionMM papers for instance).
> a small kind of support could be to buy both activists those fonts which
> isn't a very large investment and would certainly be helpful! But i
> would still argue for further financial support for their work, for
> example by sponsoring participation at EuroTeX meeting?
> If this is not possible I think we could sponsor at least one set of
> those fonts from the LaTeX3 project as i would definitely like to see
> a suitable range of implementations for the encodings. Perhaps
> Berthold Horn who sells all three font sets would contribute a set as
> In my opinion this is one of the major strength of the whole work by
> Justin and now Matthias and Ulrik that we do get for the first time a
> set of encodings and their implementation for several math fonts where
> we can in fact switch between a number of math font families without
> *any* change in the document (other than loading a package in the
> preamble so really plug an' play without nasty surprises).
yes. of course. we're all waiting nervously for this.
> The free font sets eg
> - Computer Modern
> (cmr/cmmi/cmsy/cmex/msam/msbm + eufm + bbold + MF hackery)
> - Concrete versions of the above
> (ccr/xccmi/xccsy/xccex/xccam/xccbm + eufm + bbold + MF hackery)
> - AMS Euler (eurm/eusm/euex + reamining symbols from CM/AMS)
> - Times Roman/Adobe Symbol/Zapf Chancery (still incomplete)
there's no chance to complete it ever without any significative
complements (MathPi indeed)
> are very important for the majority but getting the three really good
> commercial math fonts in as well would be the dot on the i.
> I'm really looking forward to be able to select my text typeface with
> ease and add a matching math font with a snap of my fingers
> So i do hope that GUTenberg can sponsor this
There is a vague project by GUT to sponsor the creation of a complete
set of type 1 fonts using state of the art encodings (and filling in
the holes) [T1,TS1,Mxx] with a new design (or some revival, but not
CM). It would be very nice to achieve this by synthetising all
energies. The main problem remaining is: who has designing
capabilities [at an affordable price!] especially for the maths glyphs.
Thierry Bouche. ----- email@example.com
(speaking in my own name, not for GUT which hasn't discussed much
about this lately)