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**To**:*Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L <LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE>***Subject**:**Re: math fonts, etc****From**:*Hans Aberg <haberg@MATEMATIK.SU.SE>***Date**: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:57:36 +0200- Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project <LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE>
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To summarize, this math fonts discussion seems to follow several lines: 1. Discussions about glyphs, old and new, and how to classify them, and bring them to proper use. 2. Creating a new math fonts encoding for the LaTeX3 project, and otherwise, for the purpose of enabling new mathfonts packages to be developed. 3. Discussions about math fonts packages, and which of them should be a part of the LaTeX3 distribution, and which should be independent packages. These topics clearly interact in an intricate manner. Frank Mittelbach says something to the effect that 1 does not really fit into the objectives of the LaTeX3 project, and if 2 should be changed, it is rather to pick something out, rather than adding, because of the requirements of 100% upwards compatibility, and some other technical concerns. So it seems me that 1, which is very laudable that people take up the effort to work with, could continue the discussion, as suggested by J%org Knappen, Mainz <Joerg.Knappen@uni-mainz.de, on the group math-font-discuss@cogs.susx.ac.edu, and they can report back their findings to the LaTeX3 group. One remark I have here, is that I think it is going to be hard to get prescriptive standardizations of symbols to be accepted in the math community, but the symbols created thus might get a good use anyhow. Also, using a symbol, over a name has the advantage of producing very compact formulas, but has the disadvantage that the meaning of the symbol has to be remembered. Concerning 3, I personally feel that the combined LaTeX2e and AMS-fonts are a little too restricted for conveniently writing math manuscripts, especially when these are interdisciplinary. It would be good to settle for some reasonable, well structured, extension of the current packages. Other, more special packages, could then be developed as independent packages. I will indicate two such possible extensions: Frank Mittlebach writes: >we should get of the next hill and that is: > > take the euler math fonts and implement them as well The discussions revealed that both the AMS-fonts Euler script and TeX calligraphic are a little too restricted for actual math use, as they do not have lower case letters, and do not come in bold/leaning/bold-leaning shapes, and in addition, these are not sufficiently "scripty" for many purposes. (I use "leaning" as a gerneric for slanted or italic shapes). So I am inclined to believe that the best way to handle this, is leaving the Euler script and the TeX calligraphic, for upwards compatibility, whereas designing two completely new, complete series, one less scripty, and one more scripty, having both upper-case letters, and lower-case letters, also coming in the bold/leaning/bold-leaning shapes. I have also noted that it would be good if the typewriter style would come (officially) in the bold/leaning/bold-leaning shapes. The "black-board bold", or outline, should probaly also be extended to include lower case letters. Another such package is indeed an arrows packages, which would implement extendible arrows, so that one can independently choose head, tail and body of the arrows; perhaps the ideas of Matthias Clasen <mclasen@SUN2.MATHEMATIK.UNI-FREIBURG.DE> could come into play here. In addition, for the purpose of the LaTeX3 project, I think one should consider some limited symbols extension, in as much as it fits into the classification patterns of the new math fonts selection scheme. Hans Aberg

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