[Tugindia] RE: tugindia Digest, Vol 20, Issue 11

sumanth at gazeit.com sumanth at gazeit.com
Tue Sep 14 17:16:40 CEST 2004


Can any body tell me who is working on Latex in Bangalore where I an
approach and clarify few things.
Regards
Sumanth

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   1. Re: tugindia Digest, Vol 20, Issue 10 (A. Mani)
   2. Re:[OT] article on (open) scientific publishing
      (Shashikiran Ganesh)
   3. OFFTOPIC: FLOSS and the 'digital divide' (Frederick Noronha (FN))


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:45:49 +0530
From: "A. Mani" <a_mani_sc_gs at vsnl.net>
Subject: [Tugindia] Re: tugindia Digest, Vol 20, Issue 10
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:23:12 +0530 (IST)
>From: "CV Radhakrishnan" <cvr at river-valley.org>
>Subject: [Tugindia] [OT] article on (open) scientific publishing
>To: "TUGIndia Mailing List" <tugindia at tug.org>
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>>>>>>"Ajit" == Ajit Ranade <akr at linux-delhi.org> writes:
>>>>>>            
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>    Ajit> the indian outsourced industry of scientific publishing will
>    Ajit> probably reach 500 million dollars soon, and is growing
>    Ajit> vigorously. but its growth depends on companies like
>    Ajit> elsevier, whose profit margins are hefty, and which enjoys a
>    Ajit> near monopoly worldwide. this monopoly is under threat, not
>    Ajit> just from regulators, but from the science community, who
>    Ajit> feel that access to research findings must be kept
>    Ajit> open. currently most research articles' copyright passes
>    Ajit> from author to elsevier, and access is restricted and very
>    Ajit> expensive. (some stats: annually 1.2m articles gets
>    Ajit> published in 16k periodicals. cornell university's library
>    Ajit> budget went up by 149 percent in 15 years, but number of
>    Ajit> periodicals went up by only 5 percent.)
>
>Thanks Ajit. You did the job, I was about to post the article to the
>list!
>
>I was curiously watching the developments relating to open access
>journal initiatives worldwide, primarily the initiatives of Public
>Library of Science and Berlin Declaration in which Elsevier too sent
>their delegates!  Nothing substantive happened except wild screams
>about open access.
>
>Two factors count much -- (1) the technologies of text processing, its
>various delivery formats and delivery systems (2) who will foot the
>bill?
>
>Unless the above two factors are answered satisfactorily, open access
>movements will not be able to compete with publishers like Elsevier.
>Needless to say that still more global experiments/initiatives are in
>the horizon, which will become reality very soon (of course with
>Indian participation) where the above two issues are addressed to a
>reasonable level.
>
>Best
>
>Radhakrishnan
>
>
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In India in particular publications have started becoming electronic 
only during the last few years. It will be quite easy to make our open 
repositories if we make them subject-specific. We can charge researchers

a small fee for the services too. There are absolutely no economic 
problems...only a need for a little enterprise. Computer professionals 
can and must (many reserchers do not care much about PCs or anything 
related) also help.

best,
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc.



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 02:04:10 +0800
From: "Shashikiran Ganesh" <gshashikiran at linuxmail.org>
Subject: [Tugindia] Re:[OT] article on (open) scientific publishing
To: tugindia at tug.org
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>     Ajit> expensive. (some stats: annually 1.2m articles gets
>     Ajit> published in 16k periodicals. cornell university's library
>     Ajit> budget went up by 149 percent in 15 years, but number of
>     Ajit> periodicals went up by only 5 percent.)
> 
> Thanks Ajit. You did the job, I was about to post the article to the
> list!
> 
> I was curiously watching the developments relating to open access
> journal initiatives worldwide, primarily the initiatives of Public
> Library of Science and Berlin Declaration in which Elsevier too sent
> their delegates!  Nothing substantive happened except wild screams
> about open access.
> 
> Two factors count much -- (1) the technologies of text processing, its
> various delivery formats and delivery systems (2) who will foot the
> bill?
> 
> Unless the above two factors are answered satisfactorily, open access
> movements will not be able to compete with publishers like Elsevier.
> Needless to say that still more global experiments/initiatives are in
> the horizon, which will become reality very soon (of course with
> Indian participation) where the above two issues are addressed to a
> reasonable level.
> 
> Radhakrishnan
> 

Many of you maybe aware of arxiv.org, which allows authors to submit
their papers 
in tex format and the resulting submission is archived for download by
those interested.
Their implementation is quite good and seems to have stood the test of
time.  
The entire paper maybe downloaded in pdf/ps format (on the fly
processing from the tex 
source) or just the abstract as submitted by the author.   An
interesting news item on 
this site (for members of this list) is on 28th Dec 1998:  

28 Dec 1998 
    
    New domain name arXiv.org registered. All of archive.org,
    archives.org, thearchive.org, thearchives.org were already taken.
Since the
    word 'archive' has a Greek root, X indicates the Greek Chi,
imitating
    Donald Knuth's usage in the scientific typesetting language TeX
(pronounced
    Tech), also preserving at least one of the original three x's. Note
also
    that the word archive itself goes back to the greek "archos" for
ruler, or
    "arche" to begin or rule, where "archeion" was the government house,
and
    led to the latin "archivum" as a place where public records or
historical
    documents were preserved -- hence it was natural for what is now
arXiv to
    have in the .gov domain.


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The original archive was at the address http://xxx.lanl.gov/

The Indian mirror is maintained at the IMSC and is accessible at the
URL: http://in.arxiv.org/  

regards,
Shashi
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:38:39 +0530 (IST)
From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <fred at bytesforall.org>
Subject: [Tugindia] OFFTOPIC: FLOSS and the 'digital divide'
To: cvr at river-valley.org, TUGIndia Mailing List <tugindia at tug.org>
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I would be grateful to anyone who could offer pointers on how Free/Libre

and Open Source Software could help counter the so-called 'digital 
divide'. This is needed for a planned article; thank you in advance. In 
the world of TeX, what is the kind of contribution that FLOSS is making?
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