From esperanto at swing.be Mon Jan 2 21:37:10 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 21:37:10 +0100 Subject: [texworks] New FRENCH translation Message-ID: <4F021576.30905@swing.be> Hi! Here a new version of the French translation from TeXworks apparently 26/12/2011 downloaded/updated 31/12/2011. Regards, Alain Delmotte -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TeXworks_fr_translation.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 33089 bytes Desc: not available URL: From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Tue Jan 3 16:29:24 2012 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:29:24 +0000 Subject: [texworks] TeXworks & XeTeX : Pinyin u-with-third-tone Message-ID: <4F031ED4.3090604@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Dear XeTeX & TeXworks users ... When typesetting this year's Christmas newsletter, I ran into real problems with the names of one of my friends, who in Pinyin requires a third-tone u ("?"); neither in TeXworks nor in the final typeset document could I get this to appear. In TeXworks, it appeared as a heavy solidus; in the typeset document, as a blank space. Is this a really rare character in font terms, and if not, which fonts would you recommend for (a) TeXworks, and (b) the final typeset document ? In the end, I had to substitute "?", which is superficially similar and easily understood by any reader of Pinyin, but is not really the right character for the job. Philip Taylor From jfkthame at googlemail.com Tue Jan 3 17:02:10 2012 From: jfkthame at googlemail.com (Jonathan Kew) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:02:10 +0000 Subject: [texworks] TeXworks & XeTeX : Pinyin u-with-third-tone In-Reply-To: <4F031ED4.3090604@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4F031ED4.3090604@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <493B35E0-A567-4689-A587-8F689CBBB916@gmail.com> On 3 Jan 2012, at 15:29, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > Dear XeTeX & TeXworks users ... > > When typesetting this year's Christmas newsletter, I ran into > real problems with the names of one of my friends, who in > Pinyin requires a third-tone u ("?"); neither in TeXworks > nor in the final typeset document could I get this to appear. > In TeXworks, it appeared as a heavy solidus; in the typeset > document, as a blank space. Is this a really rare character > in font terms, and if not, which fonts would you recommend > for (a) TeXworks, and (b) the final typeset document ? In > the end, I had to substitute "?", which is superficially > similar and easily understood by any reader of Pinyin, but > is not really the right character for the job. For TeXworks, if you like editing with a monospaced font, I'd expect DejaVu Sans Mono to support it. For typesetting, DejaVu Serif or Sans would be possibilities, depending on the look you want, or how about SIL's Gentium or Charis? There are no doubt lots more possibilities, but it's true that many (both commercial and free) Western-centric fonts don't support this character; you may need to look at fonts that are deliberately intended to be more "global" in their coverage. JK From felix at wieczorek-systems.de Tue Jan 3 16:49:43 2012 From: felix at wieczorek-systems.de (Felix Wieczorek) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:49:43 +0100 Subject: [texworks] TeXworks & XeTeX : Pinyin u-with-third-tone In-Reply-To: <4F031ED4.3090604@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4F031ED4.3090604@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <20120103164943.Horde.NK6ADGUEqbNPAyOXzZFg1GA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Dear Philip, --- Philip TAYLOR wrote at Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:29:24 +0000: --- > [...] > > When typesetting this year's Christmas newsletter, I ran into > real problems with the names of one of my friends, who in > Pinyin requires a third-tone u ("?"); neither in TeXworks > nor in the final typeset document could I get this to appear. > In TeXworks, it appeared as a heavy solidus; in the typeset > document, as a blank space. Is this a really rare character > in font terms, and if not, which fonts would you recommend > for (a) TeXworks, and (b) the final typeset document ? In > the end, I had to substitute "?", which is superficially > similar and easily understood by any reader of Pinyin, but > is not really the right character for the job. > > Philip Taylor (b) --- \documentclass{letter} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \DeclareUnicodeCharacter{01D4}{\v{u}} \begin{document} \begin{letter}{} ? works for me \end{letter} \end{document} --- (a) in TexWorks with Font "LM Mono 10" is working here (running Windows), however as an Editor Font not really beautiful. -- Felix Wieczorek From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Tue Jan 3 17:41:36 2012 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:41:36 +0000 Subject: [texworks] TeXworks & XeTeX : Pinyin u-with-third-tone In-Reply-To: <20120103164943.Horde.NK6ADGUEqbNPAyOXzZFg1GA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> References: <4F031ED4.3090604@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120103164943.Horde.NK6ADGUEqbNPAyOXzZFg1GA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Message-ID: <4F032FC0.5050206@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Dzi?kuj? bardzo / vielen Dank, Felix. The LM Mono 10 is certainly not something I had considered, but definitely worth investigating. Sadly \DeclareUnicodeCharacter{01D4}{\v{u}} is not an option for me : I am a dinosaur who continues to write in Plain TeX rather than join the LaTeX Lemmings :-) ** Phil. From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Tue Jan 3 17:42:27 2012 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:42:27 +0000 Subject: [texworks] TeXworks & XeTeX : Pinyin u-with-third-tone In-Reply-To: <493B35E0-A567-4689-A587-8F689CBBB916@gmail.com> References: <4F031ED4.3090604@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <493B35E0-A567-4689-A587-8F689CBBB916@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F032FF3.5040904@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Jonathan Kew wrote: > For TeXworks, if you like editing with a monospaced font, I'd expect DejaVu Sans Mono to support it. For typesetting, DejaVu Serif or Sans would be possibilities, depending on the look you want, or how about SIL's Gentium or Charis? Thank you, Jonathan : I shall investigate. ** Phil. From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Tue Jan 3 21:50:41 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 21:50:41 +0100 Subject: [texworks] TeXworks & XeTeX : Pinyin u-with-third-tone In-Reply-To: <4F032FC0.5050206@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4F031ED4.3090604@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120103164943.Horde.NK6ADGUEqbNPAyOXzZFg1GA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> <4F032FC0.5050206@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <20227.27169.708390.925065@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-03 at 16:41:36 +0000, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > Dzi?kuj? bardzo / vielen Dank, Felix. > > The LM Mono 10 is certainly not something > I had considered, but definitely worth investigating. > > Sadly \DeclareUnicodeCharacter{01D4}{\v{u}} is not > an option for me : I am a dinosaur who continues to write > in Plain TeX rather than join the LaTeX Lemmings :-) I suppose that the idea was to use \v{u} in order to compose the glyph and am sure that you don't need LaTeX in order to achieve this. For a couple of months I'm using CharisSIL fonts for most of my documents. They are very legible on screen and paper, even at small sizes. I also tried the Charis Web fonts in a web browser at various resolutions and was pleasantly surprised. They are less "calligraphic" than Palatino, but still quite elegant and even appropriate for documents where others would use sans serif fonts. Since you are using Antykwa fonts for the newsletter, I'm wondering whether you already considered to ask the authors to add the glyph. I suppose that the glyph is missing because they didn't know that you need it. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 09:51:36 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:51:36 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: GnuWin32 and cross-platform scripting with TeXWork's Script TW.system() Message-ID: Hi, Happy New Year! To facilitate easier cross-platform scripting using the TeXWork's Script system command, I have been looking at using and recommending this release called GnuWin32... http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ details... http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages.html ... Utilising the "Automated gnuwin32 download tool for automatic download and installation of the newest binary and documentation of gnuwin32 packages"... http://sourceforge.net/projects/getgnuwin32/ Appreciate any comments or suggestions or recommended alternatives please. As list traffic is light at present, thought it a good time to post this now. TIA Paul From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 06:37:16 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:37:16 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: - Scripts - Request for web / code addresses Message-ID: Hi, If any one has posted scripts for TeXworks on their own web or code site, would you mind please dropping me an email (even off-list if you wish) letting me know if you would be happy for it to be listed? To help people find pre-prepared scripts to extend the editor, I am making a temporary unofficial list of available sites, to show on http://twscript.paulanorman.info (if I have already left any one of that list, please accept my sincere apologies!). I already have received the links for Henrik Skov Midtiby, and Stefan L?ffler, thank you very much, and I have mentioned Google Code Issue 261. Paul http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=261#c73 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henrikmidtiby at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 08:10:19 2012 From: henrikmidtiby at gmail.com (Henrik Skov Midtiby) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:10:19 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: - Scripts - Request for web / code addresses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Paul Here is an additional script you can add to your list. https://raw.github.com/henrikmidtiby/autocompleteForTexworks/master/scripts/Hooks/latexErrors.js It is a modification of the latexErrors hook script provided with Texworks. The script can now detect if pdflatex is run several times from latexmk and will only list errors from the last compilation. In addition the code has been cleaned up to ease further development. Best regards, Henrik On 11 January 2012 06:37, Paul A Norman wrote: > Hi, > > If any one has posted scripts for TeXworks on?their?own web or code site, > would you mind?please?dropping me an?email?(even off-list if you wish) > letting me know if you would be happy for it to be listed? > > To help people find pre-prepared scripts to extend the editor, ?I am making > a temporary unofficial list of available sites, to show on > http://twscript.paulanorman.info?(if I have already left any one of that > list, please accept my sincere?apologies!). > > I already have received the?links?for?Henrik Skov Midtiby, and?Stefan > L?ffler, thank you very much, and I have mentioned Google Code Issue 261. > > Paul > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=261#c73 From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 09:33:53 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:33:53 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: - Scripts - Request for web / code addresses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Henrik, I've altered the link to your script area to reflect your recent optimising of your folder structure. github.com/henrikmidtiby/TeXworks-scripts latexErrors.js I've added to the list of your scripts. That is a pretty central script to the running of a Typeset. Is Stefan L?ffler the current maintainer of that script in the main release of TeXworks? This sort of raises again Charlie Sharpsteen's idea of a Script down-loader, here I would add updater - especially for what are perhaps yet to be recognised as core TeXworks scripts. Paul On 11 January 2012 20:10, Henrik Skov Midtiby wrote: > Hi Paul > > Here is an additional script you can add to your list. > > https://raw.github.com/henrikmidtiby/autocompleteForTexworks/master/scripts/Hooks/latexErrors.js > > It is a modification of the latexErrors hook script provided with > Texworks. The script can now detect if pdflatex is run several times > from latexmk and will only list errors from the last compilation. In > addition the code has been cleaned up to ease further development. > > Best regards, > Henrik > > > On 11 January 2012 06:37, Paul A Norman wrote: > > Hi, > > > > If any one has posted scripts for TeXworks on their own web or code site, > > would you mind please dropping me an email (even off-list if you wish) > > letting me know if you would be happy for it to be listed? > > > > To help people find pre-prepared scripts to extend the editor, I am > making > > a temporary unofficial list of available sites, to show on > > http://twscript.paulanorman.info (if I have already left any one of that > > list, please accept my sincere apologies!). > > > > I already have received the links for Henrik Skov Midtiby, and Stefan > > L?ffler, thank you very much, and I have mentioned Google Code Issue 261. > > > > Paul > > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=261#c73 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 07:43:34 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:43:34 +1300 Subject: [texworks] SCRIPTING: global __FILE__ now only available when debugger on? In-Reply-To: References: <4EE48D94.7010305@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, These new properties on TW.script have made something worthwhile possible for checking for updates on scripts... in fact "TW.script.date" may even be worthwhile? Some draft notes I've added to the API ... "It is possible to think through ways of including methods people can use to check for any new Update for your script if you are giving it away, or it is on an organisations local web server. "Although direct access is not given to the web, TeXworks does provide a system command for launching files by address. (There is no guarantee that a system call to wget or like will work on all systems.) "Provide an option on your form, or in a drop down box or other for the User to be able to check for a new version. "You can call a php script on your local (organisation) or www server passing variables to it in the html query, and show a page that maintains an associative array that determines whether the script has a new version for download or not and displays an appropriate message to the User. var thisFileName = TW.script.fileName.substr( TW.script.fileName.lastIndexOf("/") +1 ); var checkFile = "checkFile.php?script=" + thisFileName + "&version=" + TW.script.version; var whatHappened = TW.launchFile( // there is a strong security check on this "http://twscript.paulanorman.info/downloads/" + checkFile ); if (whatHappened.status != 0) // call failed { TW.information("What Happened", whatHappened['message']); } // "Or a more basic approach is to point to a down load page with version information already shown. This would mean showing the User what the script name and version number were perhaps as part of any form, drop-down (getItem) or Information box being presented to them. var thisOne = TW.getItem(null, "Please Choose", "This is: " + TW.script.title + " version: " + TW.script.version +" "+ thisFileName // Not available + "
Dated : " + TW.script.date + "
Please Check for Updates at\n twscript.PaulANorman.info" +"

Please Choose..." , mainList // mainList is an array , 2 , false ); "Then something like... var whatHappened = TW.launchFile(" http://twscript.paulanorman.info/downloads/"); if (whatHappened.status != 0) // call failed { TW.information("What Happened", whatHappened['message']); } // Paul On 12 December 2011 12:44, Paul A Norman wrote: > Awesome thanks Stefan, I'll write that into the Scripting api. > > Actually in one dialogue box I have been making for inserting images > into .tex docs, I actually have been showing the version number of the > script in the dialogue so that people would be able to see whether > they need to upgrade or not - so far I have had to read the script > itself into memory and search for the string. > > So "for the sake of completeness" - the completeness principle proves > itself again. > > Paul > > On 12 December 2011 00:01, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 2011-11-20 09:57, Paul A Norman wrote: > >> Seems any script locating the script's directory through __FILE__ no > >> longer works when the Debugger is off (eg .ui(s)). I don;t know when > >> this started but I am reasonably sure I have not had this happen at > >> all before now. I can not say what version of TW I last successfully > >> ran __FILE__ with Debugger off I am sorry. > >> > >> Is this a new Qt 4.7.3 feature (hmm), or something I should put on > >> Tw issues? > > > > I assume it's a Qt-related thing. In r952, I added a couple of > > properties to deal with that. The new properties are (as visible in > > scripts): > > TW.script.fileName > > TW.script.title > > TW.script.description > > TW.script.author > > TW.script.version > > > > Probably only fileName is of any real interest (as the others are > > defined exclusively by the script author), but I thought I'd include the > > rest for the sake of completeness, too. > > > > HTH > > Stefan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 09:26:17 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:26:17 +1300 Subject: [texworks] SCRIPTING: global __FILE__ now only available when debugger on? In-Reply-To: References: <4EE48D94.7010305@gmail.com> Message-ID: This can be done inside called page by JavaScript with out php at all if it is not available... "You can call a php script on your local (organisation) or www server passing variables to it in the html query, and show a page that maintains an associative array that determines whether the script has a new version for download or not and displays an appropriate message to the User." On 12 January 2012 19:43, Paul A Norman wrote: > Hi, > > These new properties on TW.script have made something worthwhile > possible for checking for updates on scripts... in fact "TW.script.date" > may even be worthwhile? > > Some draft notes I've added to the API ... > > "It is possible to think through ways of including methods people can use > to check for any new Update for your script if you are giving it away, or > it is on an organisations local web server. > > "Although direct access is not given to the web, TeXworks does provide a > system command for launching files by address. (There is no guarantee that > a system call to wget or like will work on all systems.) > > "Provide an option on your form, or in a drop down box or other for the > User to be able to check for a new version. > > "You can call a php script on your local (organisation) or www server > passing variables to it in the html query, and show a page that maintains > an associative array that determines > whether the script has a new version for download or not and > displays an appropriate message to the User. > > var thisFileName = TW.script.fileName.substr( > TW.script.fileName.lastIndexOf("/") +1 > ); > > var checkFile = "checkFile.php?script=" + thisFileName > + "&version=" + TW.script.version; > > var whatHappened = TW.launchFile( // there is a strong security check > on this > > "http://twscript.paulanorman.info/downloads/" > + checkFile > ); > > if (whatHappened.status != 0) // call failed > { > TW.information("What Happened", whatHappened['message']); > } // > > > "Or a more basic approach is to point to a down load page with version > information already shown. This would mean showing the User what the script > name and version number were perhaps as part of any form, drop-down > (getItem) or Information box being presented to them. > > var thisOne = TW.getItem(null, "Please Choose", "This is: " + > TW.script.title > + " version: " + TW.script.version > +" "+ thisFileName > > // Not available + "
Dated : " + TW.script.date > + "
Please Check for Updates at\n > title='Choose Update from Drop Box'>twscript.PaulANorman.info" > > +"

Please Choose..." > , mainList // mainList is an array > , 2 > , false > ); > > "Then something like... > > var whatHappened = TW.launchFile(" > http://twscript.paulanorman.info/downloads/"); > > if (whatHappened.status != 0) // call failed > { > TW.information("What Happened", whatHappened['message']); > } // > > Paul > > On 12 December 2011 12:44, Paul A Norman wrote: > >> Awesome thanks Stefan, I'll write that into the Scripting api. >> >> Actually in one dialogue box I have been making for inserting images >> into .tex docs, I actually have been showing the version number of the >> script in the dialogue so that people would be able to see whether >> they need to upgrade or not - so far I have had to read the script >> itself into memory and search for the string. >> >> So "for the sake of completeness" - the completeness principle proves >> itself again. >> >> Paul >> >> On 12 December 2011 00:01, Stefan L?ffler wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > On 2011-11-20 09:57, Paul A Norman wrote: >> >> Seems any script locating the script's directory through __FILE__ no >> >> longer works when the Debugger is off (eg .ui(s)). I don;t know when >> >> this started but I am reasonably sure I have not had this happen at >> >> all before now. I can not say what version of TW I last successfully >> >> ran __FILE__ with Debugger off I am sorry. >> >> >> >> Is this a new Qt 4.7.3 feature (hmm), or something I should put on >> >> Tw issues? >> > >> > I assume it's a Qt-related thing. In r952, I added a couple of >> > properties to deal with that. The new properties are (as visible in >> > scripts): >> > TW.script.fileName >> > TW.script.title >> > TW.script.description >> > TW.script.author >> > TW.script.version >> > >> > Probably only fileName is of any real interest (as the others are >> > defined exclusively by the script author), but I thought I'd include the >> > rest for the sake of completeness, too. >> > >> > HTH >> > Stefan >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henrikmidtiby at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 13:26:23 2012 From: henrikmidtiby at gmail.com (Henrik Skov Midtiby) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:26:23 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: - Scripts - Request for web / code addresses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do not know who maintains this script (latexErrors.js). It origins from the standard texworks installation. On 11 January 2012 09:33, Paul A Norman wrote: > Thanks Henrik, > > I've altered the link to your script area to reflect your recent optimising > of your folder structure. > > github.com/henrikmidtiby/TeXworks-scripts > > latexErrors.js I've added to the list of your scripts. > > That is a pretty central script to the running of a Typeset. > > Is Stefan L?ffler?the?current maintainer of that script in the main release > of TeXworks? > > This sort of raises again Charlie?Sharpsteen's idea of a Script?down-loader, > here I would add updater - especially for what are perhaps yet to be > recognised as core TeXworks scripts. > > Paul > > > On 11 January 2012 20:10, Henrik Skov Midtiby > wrote: >> >> Hi Paul >> >> Here is an additional script you can add to your list. >> >> https://raw.github.com/henrikmidtiby/autocompleteForTexworks/master/scripts/Hooks/latexErrors.js >> >> It is a modification of the latexErrors hook script provided with >> Texworks. The script can now detect if pdflatex is run several times >> from latexmk and will only list errors from the last compilation. In >> addition the code has been cleaned up to ease further development. >> >> Best regards, >> Henrik >> >> >> On 11 January 2012 06:37, Paul A Norman wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > If any one has posted scripts for TeXworks on?their?own web or code >> > site, >> > would you mind?please?dropping me an?email?(even off-list if you wish) >> > letting me know if you would be happy for it to be listed? >> > >> > To help people find pre-prepared scripts to extend the editor, ?I am >> > making >> > a temporary unofficial list of available sites, to show on >> > http://twscript.paulanorman.info?(if I have already left any one of that >> > list, please accept my sincere?apologies!). >> > >> > I already have received the?links?for?Henrik Skov Midtiby, and?Stefan >> > L?ffler, thank you very much, and I have mentioned Google Code Issue >> > 261. >> > >> > Paul >> > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=261#c73 >> > From drbrucehartman at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 23:09:57 2012 From: drbrucehartman at gmail.com (Bruce Hartman) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:09:57 -0500 Subject: [texworks] synctex does not work Message-ID: Just installed latest Miktex 2.9 with texworks 0.4.3 t587 and control-click synctex does not work. there is a flash on the other screen, but the pdf file does not move like it used to. Same going from pdf to source. Any ideas what is wrong? Thanks very much, I am a happy user in general. Best Regards, Bruce Hartman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daleif at imf.au.dk Fri Jan 13 18:17:20 2012 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:17:20 +0100 Subject: [texworks] synctex does not work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F106720.5030308@imf.au.dk> Bruce Hartman wrote, On 2012-01-12 23:09: > Just installed latest Miktex 2.9 with texworks 0.4.3 t587 and control-click > synctex does not work. there is a flash on the other screen, but the pdf > file does not move like it used to. Same going from pdf to source. > Any ideas what is wrong? > Thanks very much, I am a happy user in general. > > Best Regards, > Bruce Hartman > Might be an idea to know a bit more about your system and your setup For example, TW does not seem to like special chars in folder or file names. When you compile and the PDF is loaded, does it say anything about synctex in the lower left corner of the pdf viewer? -- /daleif From Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu Fri Jan 13 21:30:50 2012 From: Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu (Gou, Bei) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:30:50 -0800 Subject: [texworks] A Problem of Graphic Figures Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690A73210@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Dear All, Our computer technician helped me to install a LaTex in my desktop. But I have a problem: I cannot include the figures in my paper. Do you know how to solve this problem? Thanks a lot, Bei Gou NDSU USA -----Original Message----- From: texworks-bounces at tug.org [mailto:texworks-bounces at tug.org] On Behalf Of texworks-request at tug.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 2:28 PM To: Gou, Bei Subject: Welcome to the "texworks" mailing list (Digest mode) Welcome to the texworks at tug.org mailing list! 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There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Fri Jan 13 23:43:02 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:43:02 +0100 Subject: [texworks] A Problem of Graphic Figures In-Reply-To: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690A73210@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690A73210@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Message-ID: <20240.45942.652526.803451@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-13 at 12:30:50 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear All, > > Our computer technician helped me to install a LaTex in my > desktop. But I have a problem: I cannot include the figures in my > paper. In the directory containing the ".tex" file you wrote, there should also be file with the extension ".log". Please send us this file. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 07:18:23 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIEzDtmZmbGVy?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:18:23 +0100 Subject: [texworks] New FRENCH translation In-Reply-To: <4F021576.30905@swing.be> References: <4F021576.30905@swing.be> Message-ID: <4F13C12F.4010907@gmail.com> Hi Alain, On 2012-01-02 21:37, Alain Delmotte wrote: > Here a new version of the French translation from TeXworks apparently > 26/12/2011 downloaded/updated 31/12/2011. Thanks. After having been busy with other stuff, I now finally committed it in r954. Cheers, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 07:26:22 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:26:22 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: GnuWin32 and cross-platform scripting with TeXWork's Script TW.system() In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F13C30E.3010806@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-01-04 09:51, Paul A Norman wrote: > Happy New Year! Happy New Year to you and the community, too :). > To facilitate easier cross-platform scripting using the TeXWork's > Script system command, I have been looking at using and recommending > this release called GnuWin32... > > http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ > > Appreciate any comments or suggestions or recommended alternatives please. > As list traffic is light at present, thought it a good time to post this now. Yeah, I've stumbled across that project a few times in the past. It certainly looks very good, providing many tools commonly found on *nix systems to Windows. I want to emphasize, though, that this is probably only something for (very) advanced scripts (though there it can be extremely handy). I'm not sure what you have in mind, so I won't go into any detail here. It's just a feeling that for a normal user wanting to, say, "make a string bold", it would be overkill to have to install several gnu utilities. But I guess we agree on that point, anyway ;). It's very interesting to see what the Tw scripting capability is used for, however. What was originally drafted more as a playground for things like "make bold", it's now used for a lot more and a lot more complex scripts. Cheers, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 07:42:35 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:42:35 +0100 Subject: [texworks] SCRIPTING: global __FILE__ now only available when debugger on? In-Reply-To: References: <4EE48D94.7010305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F13C6DB.1080207@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-01-12 07:43, Paul A Norman wrote: > These new properties on TW.script have made something worthwhile > possible for checking for updates on scripts... in fact > "TW.script.date" may even be worthwhile? Yes, it may be worthwhile, but not too easy to implement. Which is why we have TW.script.version. If one uses, e.g., a "MM.NN.PPPP" format, the PPPP part can be incremented by one each time a new script is made available publicly (or any time a change is made, or whatever) - call it "revision number" if you want (or use a version control system to track your script files). To elaborate on the (potential) problems with a date field: For one thing, if it's a date, it should be stored internally in a QDateTime variable. This could cause problems with accessing it from scripts (though I haven't checked). What's more, people from different parts of the world specify dates differently (e.g., MM-DD-YYYY vs. DD-MM-YYYY). And different time zones etc. would have to be taken into account. Besides, if anyone ever would make several changes in one day (e.g., a new feature in the morning, and a bug fix in the evening), we'd have to include the time in that field as well. So the field would get quite long and for most (casual) script authors quite tedious to fill out / update. So, bottom line, for the moment I think a (well maintained) version field should provide enough information for all use cases I see right now. If I overlooked something, please let me know (as always, of course ;)). That said, I really liked your write-up! Maybe it would be beneficial for some users if you could add (simple) sample JS/php scripts. While such scripts may be obvious for a script-savvy web-programmer, they may be complicated to figure out for casual Tw script authors without much experience in web programming. HTH Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 07:54:54 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:54:54 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: - Scripts - Request for web / code addresses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F13C9BE.8030508@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-01-11 09:33, Paul A Norman wrote: > latexErrors.js I've added to the list of your scripts. > > That is a pretty central script to the running of a Typeset. > > Is Stefan L?ffler the current maintainer of that script in the main > release of TeXworks? Yes, I am (well, any maintainer of Tw is/can be a maintainer of the script), theoretically, anyway - practically I haven't changed it recently (I've been busy working on the pdf previewer code). The description sounds very interesting, however, and I'll definitely have a look at Henrik's changes. > This sort of raises again Charlie Sharpsteen's idea of a > Script down-loader, here I would add updater - especially for what are > perhaps yet to be recognised as core TeXworks scripts. In short: core scripts should be updated automatically already. The longer story with more if's: All resources (scripts, but also auto completion files, syntax highlighting definitions, etc.) should be updated automatically if they weren't changed when a newer version of Tw (which includes newer versions of said files) is run. Of course, this doesn't include non-core scripts (as there is no standard way to check for updates or download new files). The script downloader faces the same problem (no standard way of accessing scripts on the web). Of course, a web platform (even with suitable API to query downloads and versions) is possible - in fact that's the direction you, Paul, are heading. What remains is the security concerns if this ever picks up so it's no longer possible to look over each individual file (e.g., a fully automated work-flow where a user just needs to upload a new script file for it to show up in a potential Tw script downloader). -Stefan From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 09:23:09 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:23:09 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: GnuWin32 and cross-platform scripting with TeXWork's Script TW.system() In-Reply-To: <4F13C30E.3010806@gmail.com> References: <4F13C30E.3010806@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 16 January 2012 19:26, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-01-04 09:51, Paul A Norman wrote: > > Happy New Year! > > Happy New Year to you and the community, too :). > > > To facilitate easier cross-platform scripting using the TeXWork's > > Script system command, I have been looking at using and recommending > > this release called GnuWin32... > > > > http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Appreciate any comments or suggestions or recommended alternatives > please. > > As list traffic is light at present, thought it a good time to post this > now. > > Yeah, I've stumbled across that project a few times in the past. It > certainly looks very good, providing many tools commonly found on *nix > systems to Windows. > I want to emphasize, though, that this is probably only something for > (very) advanced scripts (though there it can be extremely handy). > > I'm not sure what you have in mind, so I won't go into any detail here. > It's just a feeling that for a normal user wanting to, say, "make a > string bold", it would be overkill to have to install several gnu > utilities. But I guess we agree on that point, anyway ;). > Yes it is more to find a common cross-platform base for additional tasks. As each thing (using their provided automatic down-loader) needs to be requested by the User specifically (under guidance form a Script designer) only the needed/downloaded things required for any TeXworks Scripts would need be on the User's system at any point of time. > > It's very interesting to see what the Tw scripting capability is used > for, however. What was originally drafted more as a playground for > things like "make bold", it's now used for a lot more and a lot more > complex scripts. > Yes I think the deployment of the QtScript UI feature into TeXworks pointed to some more complex possibilities as well, and the timing of incorporating QtScript as an ECMA dialect in TeXworks coincided with the general client-side non-browser flowering of JavaScript, and the many advances that have been made there on a very wide front. > > Cheers, > Stefan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 09:33:55 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:33:55 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: - Scripts - Request for web / code addresses In-Reply-To: <4F13C9BE.8030508@gmail.com> References: <4F13C9BE.8030508@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 16 January 2012 19:54, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-01-11 09:33, Paul A Norman wrote: > > latexErrors.js I've added to the list of your scripts. > > > > That is a pretty central script to the running of a Typeset. > > > > Is Stefan L?ffler the current maintainer of that script in the main > > release of TeXworks? > > Yes, I am (well, any maintainer of Tw is/can be a maintainer of the > script), theoretically, anyway - practically I haven't changed it > recently (I've been busy working on the pdf previewer code). The > description sounds very interesting, however, and I'll definitely have a > look at Henrik's changes. > > > This sort of raises again Charlie Sharpsteen's idea of a > > Script down-loader, here I would add updater - especially for what are > > perhaps yet to be recognised as core TeXworks scripts. > > In short: core scripts should be updated automatically already. > The longer story with more if's: All resources (scripts, but also auto > completion files, syntax highlighting definitions, etc.) should be > updated automatically if they weren't changed when a newer version of Tw > (which includes newer versions of said files) is run. > > Of course, this doesn't include non-core scripts (as there is no > standard way to check for updates or download new files). The script > downloader faces the same problem (no standard way of accessing scripts > on the web). > Of course, a web platform (even with suitable API to query downloads and > versions) is possible - in fact that's the direction you, Paul, are > heading. What remains is the security concerns if this ever picks up so > it's no longer possible to look over each individual file (e.g., a fully > automated work-flow where a user just needs to upload a new script file > for it to show up in a potential Tw script downloader). > > Yes so far I've only looked to providing a simple mechanism for a User to be able to determine whether a newer version of a Script is available form the Script Designer's web/code page. Downloading and installing is still up to the User. I realised thinking it through only to that point, was avoiding the potential issues raised through directly dragging such a Script update down and installing/overwriting through say wget or something. Paul > -Stefan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 09:51:56 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:51:56 +1300 Subject: [texworks] SCRIPTING: global __FILE__ now only available when debugger on? In-Reply-To: <4F13C6DB.1080207@gmail.com> References: <4EE48D94.7010305@gmail.com> <4F13C6DB.1080207@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 16 January 2012 19:42, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-01-12 07:43, Paul A Norman wrote: > > These new properties on TW.script have made something worthwhile > > possible for checking for updates on scripts... in fact > > "TW.script.date" may even be worthwhile? > > Yes, it may be worthwhile, but not too easy to implement. Which is why > we have TW.script.version. If one uses, e.g., a "MM.NN.PPPP" format, the > PPPP part can be incremented by one each time a new script is made > available publicly (or any time a change is made, or whatever) - call it > "revision number" if you want (or use a version control system to track > your script files). > > To elaborate on the (potential) problems with a date field: > For one thing, if it's a date, it should be stored internally in a > QDateTime variable. This could cause problems with accessing it from > scripts (though I haven't checked). What's more, people from different > parts of the world specify dates differently (e.g., MM-DD-YYYY vs. > DD-MM-YYYY). And different time zones etc. would have to be taken into > account. Besides, if anyone ever would make several changes in one day > (e.g., a new feature in the morning, and a bug fix in the evening), we'd > have to include the time in that field as well. So the field would get > quite long and for most (casual) script authors quite tedious to fill > out / update. > > So, bottom line, for the moment I think a (well maintained) version > field should provide enough information for all use cases I see right > now. If I overlooked something, please let me know (as always, of course > ;)). > Thanks Stefan, I agree entirely, I only saw it as descriptive for additional visual comparison purposes (and upto the Script Author what they were showing in there - not as a programmable piece of data) and as you point out, we can entirely rely on the Version field. Interestingly, due to the international nature of the TeXworks project, in the TeXworks Script Api, in the descriptive text I am actually frequently adding superscripted th nd and rd to YYYY-??-?? dates to make it very clear what form they are in, and what they mean. > > That said, I really liked your write-up! Maybe it would be beneficial > for some users if you could add (simple) sample JS/php scripts. Can you add an extra TeXworks sub page to the existing TUG TeXworks page on TUG? I had been thinking to actually do a simple page for there (with JavaScript in it as you previously had shared that php is not available) that a Script could call, which would show the User what their: 1. current version +rev was, 2. their release (TeXworks direct or say MikTeX - I think that is exposed to scripting?), 3. what the current Official TeXworks release ver + rev was ( with link to downlaod page ), 4. and what the latest Development version and rev was (with link to downlaod page). Thought that might be an immediately useful example - what do you think? It would require maintaining a simple external text data file along with the new .html page on TUG. Paul > While > such scripts may be obvious for a script-savvy web-programmer, they may > be complicated to figure out for casual Tw script authors without much > experience in web programming. > > HTH > Stefan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 13:21:42 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:21:42 +1300 Subject: [texworks] SCRIPTING: global __FILE__ now only available when debugger on? In-Reply-To: References: <4EE48D94.7010305@gmail.com> <4F13C6DB.1080207@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Here is a TeXworks script that does a prof of concept for the thread here. Temporarily it points at a page on twscript.paulanorman.info http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=261#c74 I think that we need some sort of easier exposure to script of release and version strings please. You'll see what I mean if you look at the TeXworks script. (I don;t think version is at all available as yet.) Paul On 16 January 2012 21:51, Paul A Norman wrote: > > > On 16 January 2012 19:42, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2012-01-12 07:43, Paul A Norman wrote: >> > These new properties on TW.script have made something worthwhile >> > possible for checking for updates on scripts... in fact >> > "TW.script.date" may even be worthwhile? >> >> Yes, it may be worthwhile, but not too easy to implement. Which is why >> we have TW.script.version. If one uses, e.g., a "MM.NN.PPPP" format, the >> PPPP part can be incremented by one each time a new script is made >> available publicly (or any time a change is made, or whatever) - call it >> "revision number" if you want (or use a version control system to track >> your script files). >> >> To elaborate on the (potential) problems with a date field: >> For one thing, if it's a date, it should be stored internally in a >> QDateTime variable. This could cause problems with accessing it from >> scripts (though I haven't checked). What's more, people from different >> parts of the world specify dates differently (e.g., MM-DD-YYYY vs. >> DD-MM-YYYY). And different time zones etc. would have to be taken into >> account. Besides, if anyone ever would make several changes in one day >> (e.g., a new feature in the morning, and a bug fix in the evening), we'd >> have to include the time in that field as well. So the field would get >> quite long and for most (casual) script authors quite tedious to fill >> out / update. >> >> So, bottom line, for the moment I think a (well maintained) version >> field should provide enough information for all use cases I see right >> now. If I overlooked something, please let me know (as always, of course >> ;)). >> > > Thanks Stefan, I agree entirely, I only saw it as descriptive for > additional visual comparison purposes (and upto the Script Author > what they were showing in there - not as a programmable piece of data) and > as you point out, we can entirely rely on the Version field. > > Interestingly, due to the international nature of the TeXworks project, in > the TeXworks Script Api, in the descriptive text I am actually frequently > adding superscripted th nd and rd to YYYY-??-?? dates to make it very clear > what form they are in, and what they mean. > >> >> That said, I really liked your write-up! Maybe it would be beneficial >> for some users if you could add (simple) sample JS/php scripts. > > > Can you add an extra TeXworks sub page to the existing TUG TeXworks page > on TUG? > > I had been thinking to actually do a simple page for there (with > JavaScript in it as you previously had shared that php is not available) > that a Script could call, which would show the User what their: > > 1. current version +rev was, > 2. their release (TeXworks direct or say MikTeX - I think that is > exposed to scripting?), > 3. what the current Official TeXworks release ver + rev was ( with > link to downlaod page ), > 4. and what the latest Development version and rev was (with link to > downlaod page). > > Thought that might be an immediately useful example - what do you think? > > It would require maintaining a simple external text data file along with > the new .html page on TUG. > > Paul > > >> While >> such scripts may be obvious for a script-savvy web-programmer, they may >> be complicated to figure out for casual Tw script authors without much >> experience in web programming. >> >> HTH >> Stefan >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu Tue Jan 17 17:25:22 2012 From: Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu (Gou, Bei) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:25:22 -0800 Subject: [texworks] log file you requested Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2E87@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Dear Reinhard, Attached please find the log file you requested. For you to recall my original problem, I attached my question and your answer in this email below. Thanks a lot again, Bei Gou, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering North Dakota State University Fargo, ND 58108 Tel: (701)231-6404 E-mail: bei.gou at ndsu.edu Website: http://www.ndsu.edu/ece/people/faculty/bei_gou.htm Message: 3 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:30:50 -0800 From: "Gou, Bei" > To: "texworks at tug.org" > Subject: [texworks] A Problem of Graphic Figures Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690A73210 at VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear All, Our computer technician helped me to install a LaTex in my desktop. But I have a problem: I cannot include the figures in my paper. Do you know how to solve this problem? Thanks a lot, Bei Gou NDSU USA Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:43:02 +0100 From: Reinhard Kotucha > To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." > Subject: Re: [texworks] A Problem of Graphic Figures Message-ID: <20240.45942.652526.803451 at zaphod.ms25.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2012-01-13 at 12:30:50 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear All, > > Our computer technician helped me to install a LaTex in my > desktop. But I have a problem: I cannot include the figures in my > paper. In the directory containing the ".tex" file you wrote, there should also be file with the extension ".log". Please send us this file. Regards, Reinhard ________________________________ Sample disclaimer text -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: prony.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 9808 bytes Desc: prony.log URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Tue Jan 17 20:36:32 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:36:32 +0100 Subject: [texworks] log file you requested In-Reply-To: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2E87@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2E87@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Message-ID: <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-17 at 08:25:22 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear Reinhard, > > Attached please find the log file you requested. For you to recall > my original problem, I attached my question and your answer in this > email below. Please use the graphicx package instead of psfig. Include it with \usepackage and not with \input. Run texdoc grfguide for information about the package. There are many other errors too, maybe you need a book about LaTeX. And please don't change the subject line when replying. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Tue Jan 17 21:42:41 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:42:41 +0100 Subject: [texworks] log file you requested In-Reply-To: <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2E87@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <20245.56641.157797.481548@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-17 at 20:36:32 +0100, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > On 2012-01-17 at 08:25:22 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: > > > Dear Reinhard, > > > > Attached please find the log file you requested. For you to recall > > my original problem, I attached my question and your answer in this > > email below. > > Please use the graphicx package instead of psfig. Include it with > \usepackage and not with \input. > > Run > > texdoc grfguide > > for information about the package. > > There are many other errors too, maybe you need a book about LaTeX. BTW, you can't use PostScript files with pdfTeX directly. They have to be converted to PDF before. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu Tue Jan 17 22:46:27 2012 From: Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu (Gou, Bei) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:46:27 -0800 Subject: [texworks] log file you requested In-Reply-To: <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2E87@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2FF4@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Hi, Reinhard, Thanks for your prompt reply. Please tell me how to get the package graphic? Thanks a lot, Bei -----Original Message----- From: Reinhard Kotucha [mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:37 PM To: Gou, Bei Cc: reinhard.kotucha at web.de; texworks at tug.org Subject: Re: log file you requested On 2012-01-17 at 08:25:22 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear Reinhard, > > Attached please find the log file you requested. For you to recall > my original problem, I attached my question and your answer in this > email below. Please use the graphicx package instead of psfig. Include it with \usepackage and not with \input. Run texdoc grfguide for information about the package. There are many other errors too, maybe you need a book about LaTeX. And please don't change the subject line when replying. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sample disclaimer text From Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu Tue Jan 17 23:10:02 2012 From: Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu (Gou, Bei) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:10:02 -0800 Subject: [texworks] log file you requested In-Reply-To: <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2E87@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3003@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Dear Reinhard, Would you please check the attached log file for another format? This is the right format I will use for this paper. I have the same problem: cannot include the figures in the paper. Thanks a lot, Bei -----Original Message----- From: Reinhard Kotucha [mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:37 PM To: Gou, Bei Cc: reinhard.kotucha at web.de; texworks at tug.org Subject: Re: log file you requested On 2012-01-17 at 08:25:22 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear Reinhard, > > Attached please find the log file you requested. For you to recall > my original problem, I attached my question and your answer in this > email below. Please use the graphicx package instead of psfig. Include it with \usepackage and not with \input. Run texdoc grfguide for information about the package. There are many other errors too, maybe you need a book about LaTeX. And please don't change the subject line when replying. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sample disclaimer text -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: withimage.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 10927 bytes Desc: withimage.log URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Wed Jan 18 00:15:00 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 00:15:00 +0100 Subject: [texworks] log file you requested In-Reply-To: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3003@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2E87@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3003@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Message-ID: <20246.244.123287.630804@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-17 at 14:10:02 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear Reinhard, > > Would you please check the attached log file for another format? > This is the right format I will use for this paper. I have the same > problem: cannot include the figures in the paper. The graphicx package is now properly loaded. But you have to read its documentation too. You also have to convert your graphics before. And you won't get your file compiled without consulting a book about LaTeX. Most important, you have to learn to read and understand error messages. LaTeX is similar to a programming language: You have to learn a bit at the beginning and without consulting a book you don't get very far. I'm sure that you'll find something useful here: http://tug.org/begin.html Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lomov.vl at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 01:59:56 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:59:56 +0900 Subject: [texworks] log file you requested In-Reply-To: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3003@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE2E87@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> <20245.52672.414137.558194@zaphod.ms25.net> <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3003@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Message-ID: <20120118005956.GH972@smoon> Hello, ** Gou, Bei [2012-01-17 14:10:02 -0800]: > Dear Reinhard, > Would you please check the attached log file for another format? This > is the right format I will use for this paper. I have the same > problem: cannot include the figures in the paper. I'm not a Reinhard but could help a little. 1. This mailing list is intended to discuss TeXworks ? the TeX front end. Please see 'http://www.tug.org/mailman/listinfo' page, you need texhax ML. 2. Make a minimal [not]working example, see 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minxampl' 3. Read information about LaTeX, see for example 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=tutbitslatex' 4. There are two graphic packages for LaTeX: 'graphics' and 'graphicx'. In most cases the second is preferable (read documentation about them). Both are distributed by modern TeX distributions (MiKTeX and TeX Live). 5. LaTeX format is supported by several engines: latex, pdflatex, xelatex and lualatex. First one support images only in EPS format, pdflatex support images in formats: PDF, JPEG, PNG (may be other raster formats). The most suitable way to include images is following: \includegraphics{6bus} If you want to set explicitly height of an image use 'height' key, \includegraphics[height=2.0in]{6bus} (I take file name from your log file). There are at least two problems with your document: 1. you use "old" command to insert images, Reinhard suggest to use 'graphicx' package (as would I), you change the document preamble but don't change commands therefore one error message about 'Undefined control sequence'; change all '\psfig' commands like below: (taken from log file) change \psfig{file=6bus.ps,height=2.0in} to \includegraphics{6bus} %%% don't specify height if image is inserted correctly To work with both latex and pdflatex and don't bother what engine do you use convert your PS images also to PDF format with the help of 'epstopdf' program (should be available in MiKTeX, if not install apropriate package) like C:\> epstopdf 6bus.ps This command will create file '6bus.pdf'. After that above command '\includegraphics' will work correctly with latex and pdflatex. Another option is to use 'epstopdf' _package_, just add it to your document preamble. 2. The second problem with math. From log file follows that on line 94, environment 'eqnarray', the '\left{' should have the paired '\right' command on the same 'line' (i.e. '\left' and '\right' shouldn't be separated by '\\'). Without real document it is hard to say what exactly is wrong. Also consider to switch to 'amsmath' package with more convenient environments 'multline', 'gather', '[fl]align', 'slpit' (see documentation). > Thanks a lot, > Bei You are welcome. --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- Everything you know is wrong! From Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu Wed Jan 18 18:13:45 2012 From: Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu (Gou, Bei) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:13:45 -0800 Subject: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3168@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Dear Vladimir, Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit first, which is time-consuming. Thanks a lot again. Bei -----Original Message----- From: texworks-bounces at tug.org [mailto:texworks-bounces at tug.org] On Behalf Of texworks-request at tug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:00 AM To: texworks at tug.org Subject: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Send texworks mailing list submissions to texworks at tug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to texworks-request at tug.org You can reach the person managing the list at texworks-owner at tug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of texworks digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: log file you requested (Vladimir Lomov) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:59:56 +0900 From: Vladimir Lomov To: texworks at tug.org Subject: Re: [texworks] log file you requested Message-ID: <20120118005956.GH972 at smoon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello, ** Gou, Bei [2012-01-17 14:10:02 -0800]: > Dear Reinhard, > Would you please check the attached log file for another format? This > is the right format I will use for this paper. I have the same > problem: cannot include the figures in the paper. I'm not a Reinhard but could help a little. 1. This mailing list is intended to discuss TeXworks ? the TeX front end. Please see 'http://www.tug.org/mailman/listinfo' page, you need texhax ML. 2. Make a minimal [not]working example, see 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minxampl' 3. Read information about LaTeX, see for example 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=tutbitslatex' 4. There are two graphic packages for LaTeX: 'graphics' and 'graphicx'. In most cases the second is preferable (read documentation about them). Both are distributed by modern TeX distributions (MiKTeX and TeX Live). 5. LaTeX format is supported by several engines: latex, pdflatex, xelatex and lualatex. First one support images only in EPS format, pdflatex support images in formats: PDF, JPEG, PNG (may be other raster formats). The most suitable way to include images is following: \includegraphics{6bus} If you want to set explicitly height of an image use 'height' key, \includegraphics[height=2.0in]{6bus} (I take file name from your log file). There are at least two problems with your document: 1. you use "old" command to insert images, Reinhard suggest to use 'graphicx' package (as would I), you change the document preamble but don't change commands therefore one error message about 'Undefined control sequence'; change all '\psfig' commands like below: (taken from log file) change \psfig{file=6bus.ps,height=2.0in} to \includegraphics{6bus} %%% don't specify height if image is inserted correctly To work with both latex and pdflatex and don't bother what engine do you use convert your PS images also to PDF format with the help of 'epstopdf' program (should be available in MiKTeX, if not install apropriate package) like C:\> epstopdf 6bus.ps This command will create file '6bus.pdf'. After that above command '\includegraphics' will work correctly with latex and pdflatex. Another option is to use 'epstopdf' _package_, just add it to your document preamble. 2. The second problem with math. From log file follows that on line 94, environment 'eqnarray', the '\left{' should have the paired '\right' command on the same 'line' (i.e. '\left' and '\right' shouldn't be separated by '\\'). Without real document it is hard to say what exactly is wrong. Also consider to switch to 'amsmath' package with more convenient environments 'multline', 'gather', '[fl]align', 'slpit' (see documentation). > Thanks a lot, > Bei You are welcome. --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- Everything you know is wrong! ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ texworks mailing list texworks at tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks End of texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 **************************************** From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed Jan 18 18:54:12 2012 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:54:12 -0600 Subject: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3168@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3168@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Message-ID: On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear Vladimir, > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit first, which is time-consuming. > > Thanks a lot again. > > Bei Howdy, I'm not a Windows user but I'll bet that MikTeX 2.8 already has the graphicx package installed so you need only add the command \usepackage{graphicx} to the preamble of your document. Like others, I really suggest you get some good documentation on using LaTeX. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Wed Jan 18 20:05:35 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:05:35 +0100 Subject: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3168@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Message-ID: <20247.6143.447045.186468@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-18 at 11:54:12 -0600, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Gou, Bei wrote: > > > Dear Vladimir, > > > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me > > to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, > > like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps > > format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for > > installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit > > first, which is time-consuming. > > > > Thanks a lot again. > > > > Bei > > Howdy, > > I'm not a Windows user but I'll bet that MikTeX 2.8 already has the > graphicx package installed so you need only add the command > > \usepackage{graphicx} > > to the preamble of your document. This is what he already does, according to the log file. See my mail from yesterday. But he still tries to include PostScript files in pdfTeX with \psfig, which cannot work. Regards, Reinhard > Like others, I really suggest you get some good documentation on using LaTeX. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From felix at wieczorek-systems.de Thu Jan 19 11:50:25 2012 From: felix at wieczorek-systems.de (Felix Wieczorek) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:50:25 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ In-Reply-To: <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <7257F444-89EB-4D91-922A-BC29D2B91824@gmail.com> <4E9D5BB1.4000405@gmail.com> <4EAEF506.5030007@gmail.com> <4EAFB0DF.7080309@gmail.com> <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> For the Editor it would be great to add an option to display a vertical line at a specified column, (as an orientation for breaks). -- Felix Wieczorek From crickzhang1 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 16:11:38 2012 From: crickzhang1 at gmail.com (Yinhe Zhang) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:11:38 +0800 Subject: [texworks] Updated Simplified Chinese translation for TeXworks r954 Message-ID: Hi, I have finally got some time to do the Chinese translation. 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Thanks a lot again for your great help. Bei -----Original Message----- From: texworks-bounces at tug.org [mailto:texworks-bounces at tug.org] On Behalf Of texworks-request at tug.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:00 AM To: texworks at tug.org Subject: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 Send texworks mailing list submissions to texworks at tug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to texworks-request at tug.org You can reach the person managing the list at texworks-owner at tug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of texworks digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Gou, Bei) 2. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Herbert Schulz) 3. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Reinhard Kotucha) 4. Re: Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ (Felix Wieczorek) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:13:45 -0800 From: "Gou, Bei" To: "texworks at tug.org" Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3168 at VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Vladimir, Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit first, which is time-consuming. Thanks a lot again. Bei -----Original Message----- From: texworks-bounces at tug.org [mailto:texworks-bounces at tug.org] On Behalf Of texworks-request at tug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:00 AM To: texworks at tug.org Subject: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Send texworks mailing list submissions to texworks at tug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to texworks-request at tug.org You can reach the person managing the list at texworks-owner at tug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of texworks digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: log file you requested (Vladimir Lomov) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:59:56 +0900 From: Vladimir Lomov To: texworks at tug.org Subject: Re: [texworks] log file you requested Message-ID: <20120118005956.GH972 at smoon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello, ** Gou, Bei [2012-01-17 14:10:02 -0800]: > Dear Reinhard, > Would you please check the attached log file for another format? This > is the right format I will use for this paper. I have the same > problem: cannot include the figures in the paper. I'm not a Reinhard but could help a little. 1. This mailing list is intended to discuss TeXworks ? the TeX front end. Please see 'http://www.tug.org/mailman/listinfo' page, you need texhax ML. 2. Make a minimal [not]working example, see 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minxampl' 3. Read information about LaTeX, see for example 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=tutbitslatex' 4. There are two graphic packages for LaTeX: 'graphics' and 'graphicx'. In most cases the second is preferable (read documentation about them). Both are distributed by modern TeX distributions (MiKTeX and TeX Live). 5. LaTeX format is supported by several engines: latex, pdflatex, xelatex and lualatex. First one support images only in EPS format, pdflatex support images in formats: PDF, JPEG, PNG (may be other raster formats). The most suitable way to include images is following: \includegraphics{6bus} If you want to set explicitly height of an image use 'height' key, \includegraphics[height=2.0in]{6bus} (I take file name from your log file). There are at least two problems with your document: 1. you use "old" command to insert images, Reinhard suggest to use 'graphicx' package (as would I), you change the document preamble but don't change commands therefore one error message about 'Undefined control sequence'; change all '\psfig' commands like below: (taken from log file) change \psfig{file=6bus.ps,height=2.0in} to \includegraphics{6bus} %%% don't specify height if image is inserted correctly To work with both latex and pdflatex and don't bother what engine do you use convert your PS images also to PDF format with the help of 'epstopdf' program (should be available in MiKTeX, if not install apropriate package) like C:\> epstopdf 6bus.ps This command will create file '6bus.pdf'. After that above command '\includegraphics' will work correctly with latex and pdflatex. Another option is to use 'epstopdf' _package_, just add it to your document preamble. 2. The second problem with math. From log file follows that on line 94, environment 'eqnarray', the '\left{' should have the paired '\right' command on the same 'line' (i.e. '\left' and '\right' shouldn't be separated by '\\'). Without real document it is hard to say what exactly is wrong. Also consider to switch to 'amsmath' package with more convenient environments 'multline', 'gather', '[fl]align', 'slpit' (see documentation). > Thanks a lot, > Bei You are welcome. --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- Everything you know is wrong! ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ texworks mailing list texworks at tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks End of texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 **************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:54:12 -0600 From: Herbert Schulz To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear Vladimir, > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit first, which is time-consuming. > > Thanks a lot again. > > Bei Howdy, I'm not a Windows user but I'll bet that MikTeX 2.8 already has the graphicx package installed so you need only add the command \usepackage{graphicx} to the preamble of your document. Like others, I really suggest you get some good documentation on using LaTeX. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:05:35 +0100 From: Reinhard Kotucha To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Message-ID: <20247.6143.447045.186468 at zaphod.ms25.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2012-01-18 at 11:54:12 -0600, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Gou, Bei wrote: > > > Dear Vladimir, > > > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me > > to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, > > like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps > > format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for > > installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit > > first, which is time-consuming. > > > > Thanks a lot again. > > > > Bei > > Howdy, > > I'm not a Windows user but I'll bet that MikTeX 2.8 already has the > graphicx package installed so you need only add the command > > \usepackage{graphicx} > > to the preamble of your document. This is what he already does, according to the log file. See my mail from yesterday. But he still tries to include PostScript files in pdfTeX with \psfig, which cannot work. Regards, Reinhard > Like others, I really suggest you get some good documentation on using LaTeX. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:50:25 +0100 From: Felix Wieczorek To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." Subject: Re: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ Message-ID: <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA at horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes For the Editor it would be great to add an option to display a vertical line at a specified column, (as an orientation for breaks). -- Felix Wieczorek ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ texworks mailing list texworks at tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks End of texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 **************************************** From Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu Thu Jan 19 22:23:21 2012 From: Bei.Gou at ndsu.edu (Gou, Bei) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:23:21 -0800 Subject: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3548@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> You have the LaTex and I do not know if you tried to test what you suggested in your LaTex. Thanks a lot. Bei -----Original Message----- From: texworks-bounces at tug.org [mailto:texworks-bounces at tug.org] On Behalf Of texworks-request at tug.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:00 AM To: texworks at tug.org Subject: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 Send texworks mailing list submissions to texworks at tug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to texworks-request at tug.org You can reach the person managing the list at texworks-owner at tug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of texworks digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Gou, Bei) 2. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Herbert Schulz) 3. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Reinhard Kotucha) 4. Re: Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ (Felix Wieczorek) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:13:45 -0800 From: "Gou, Bei" To: "texworks at tug.org" Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Message-ID: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3168 at VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Vladimir, Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit first, which is time-consuming. Thanks a lot again. Bei -----Original Message----- From: texworks-bounces at tug.org [mailto:texworks-bounces at tug.org] On Behalf Of texworks-request at tug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:00 AM To: texworks at tug.org Subject: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Send texworks mailing list submissions to texworks at tug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to texworks-request at tug.org You can reach the person managing the list at texworks-owner at tug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of texworks digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: log file you requested (Vladimir Lomov) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:59:56 +0900 From: Vladimir Lomov To: texworks at tug.org Subject: Re: [texworks] log file you requested Message-ID: <20120118005956.GH972 at smoon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello, ** Gou, Bei [2012-01-17 14:10:02 -0800]: > Dear Reinhard, > Would you please check the attached log file for another format? This > is the right format I will use for this paper. I have the same > problem: cannot include the figures in the paper. I'm not a Reinhard but could help a little. 1. This mailing list is intended to discuss TeXworks ? the TeX front end. Please see 'http://www.tug.org/mailman/listinfo' page, you need texhax ML. 2. Make a minimal [not]working example, see 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minxampl' 3. Read information about LaTeX, see for example 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=tutbitslatex' 4. There are two graphic packages for LaTeX: 'graphics' and 'graphicx'. In most cases the second is preferable (read documentation about them). Both are distributed by modern TeX distributions (MiKTeX and TeX Live). 5. LaTeX format is supported by several engines: latex, pdflatex, xelatex and lualatex. First one support images only in EPS format, pdflatex support images in formats: PDF, JPEG, PNG (may be other raster formats). The most suitable way to include images is following: \includegraphics{6bus} If you want to set explicitly height of an image use 'height' key, \includegraphics[height=2.0in]{6bus} (I take file name from your log file). There are at least two problems with your document: 1. you use "old" command to insert images, Reinhard suggest to use 'graphicx' package (as would I), you change the document preamble but don't change commands therefore one error message about 'Undefined control sequence'; change all '\psfig' commands like below: (taken from log file) change \psfig{file=6bus.ps,height=2.0in} to \includegraphics{6bus} %%% don't specify height if image is inserted correctly To work with both latex and pdflatex and don't bother what engine do you use convert your PS images also to PDF format with the help of 'epstopdf' program (should be available in MiKTeX, if not install apropriate package) like C:\> epstopdf 6bus.ps This command will create file '6bus.pdf'. After that above command '\includegraphics' will work correctly with latex and pdflatex. Another option is to use 'epstopdf' _package_, just add it to your document preamble. 2. The second problem with math. From log file follows that on line 94, environment 'eqnarray', the '\left{' should have the paired '\right' command on the same 'line' (i.e. '\left' and '\right' shouldn't be separated by '\\'). Without real document it is hard to say what exactly is wrong. Also consider to switch to 'amsmath' package with more convenient environments 'multline', 'gather', '[fl]align', 'slpit' (see documentation). > Thanks a lot, > Bei You are welcome. --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- Everything you know is wrong! ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ texworks mailing list texworks at tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks End of texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 **************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:54:12 -0600 From: Herbert Schulz To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Gou, Bei wrote: > Dear Vladimir, > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit first, which is time-consuming. > > Thanks a lot again. > > Bei Howdy, I'm not a Windows user but I'll bet that MikTeX 2.8 already has the graphicx package installed so you need only add the command \usepackage{graphicx} to the preamble of your document. Like others, I really suggest you get some good documentation on using LaTeX. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:05:35 +0100 From: Reinhard Kotucha To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 Message-ID: <20247.6143.447045.186468 at zaphod.ms25.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2012-01-18 at 11:54:12 -0600, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Gou, Bei wrote: > > > Dear Vladimir, > > > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me > > to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, > > like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps > > format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for > > installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit > > first, which is time-consuming. > > > > Thanks a lot again. > > > > Bei > > Howdy, > > I'm not a Windows user but I'll bet that MikTeX 2.8 already has the > graphicx package installed so you need only add the command > > \usepackage{graphicx} > > to the preamble of your document. This is what he already does, according to the log file. See my mail from yesterday. But he still tries to include PostScript files in pdfTeX with \psfig, which cannot work. Regards, Reinhard > Like others, I really suggest you get some good documentation on using LaTeX. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:50:25 +0100 From: Felix Wieczorek To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." Subject: Re: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ Message-ID: <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA at horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes For the Editor it would be great to add an option to display a vertical line at a specified column, (as an orientation for breaks). -- Felix Wieczorek ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ texworks mailing list texworks at tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks End of texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 **************************************** From xu_bing_hong at yahoo.co.jp Thu Jan 19 16:22:13 2012 From: xu_bing_hong at yahoo.co.jp (Yoko AMANO) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:22:13 +0900 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <001e01ccd6be$1f02f6c0$5d08e440$@yahoo.co.jp> Dear Sir: Thank you very much for your Texwoks software. Now, please, tell me ?What should I do when the PDF created by IEEE PDF eXpress or PDF eXpress Plus is missing? by Texwoks. hearing from you soon. Kind regards, Yoko Amano amano at ee.ce.nihon-u.ac.jp ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9) Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-texworks.exe Library path : C:/Users/Yoko AMANO/AppData/Local/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows 7 Business Edition, 32-bit Service Pack 1 (build 7601) Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) ------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Thu Jan 19 22:35:06 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:35:06 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ In-Reply-To: <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <7257F444-89EB-4D91-922A-BC29D2B91824@gmail.com> <4E9D5BB1.4000405@gmail.com> <4EAEF506.5030007@gmail.com> <4EAFB0DF.7080309@gmail.com> <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Message-ID: <20248.35978.732668.281213@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-19 at 11:50:25 +0100, Felix Wieczorek wrote: > For the Editor it would be great to add an option to display a > vertical line at a specified column, (as an orientation for > breaks). How would you specify a particular column if you are using a proportional font? Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 23:53:05 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:53:05 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <001e01ccd6be$1f02f6c0$5d08e440$@yahoo.co.jp> References: <001e01ccd6be$1f02f6c0$5d08e440$@yahoo.co.jp> Message-ID: Dear Yoko Amano, Have you read this yet? http://ieee.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/722/~/what-should-i-do-when-the-pdf-created-by-ieee-pdf-express-or-pdf-express-plus Does that help you at all? Paul 2012/1/20 Yoko AMANO > Dear Sir:**** > > Thank you very much for your Texwoks software. **** > > Now, please, tell me ?What should I do when the PDF created by IEEE PDF > eXpress or PDF eXpress Plus is missing? by Texwoks. **** > > hearing from you soon. > Kind regards, > > **** > > Yoko Amano**** > > amano at ee.ce.nihon-u.ac.jp**** > > ** ** > > ----- configuration info ----- > TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9) > Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX > 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-texworks.exe > Library path : C:/Users/Yoko > AMANO/AppData/Local/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ > pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe > Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows 7 Business Edition, 32-bit > Service Pack 1 (build 7601) > Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) > ------------------------------ **** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 00:18:11 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:18:11 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ In-Reply-To: <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <7257F444-89EB-4D91-922A-BC29D2B91824@gmail.com> <4E9D5BB1.4000405@gmail.com> <4EAEF506.5030007@gmail.com> <4EAFB0DF.7080309@gmail.com> <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Message-ID: Dear Felix, I think that Rheinhard has gathered better what you mean --- are you suggesting that you want to know where to break lines in the finished output (say .pdf) by being able to see a vertical line in the TeXworks .tex editor? Under Windows there is a standard api (GetTextmetrics GetTextExtent32 etc and newer) for calculating the fonted effect of a portion of plain ASCII --- however this would not take into account any of the LaTeX packages that you were using or other effects, and would rely on .ttf or .otf (and perhaps .ps) fonts only. Such a calculation could only produce a jagged or zigzag (sometimes disjointed?) line in a plain text editor like TeXworks, and even if it could pre-calculate any output justification -- would constantly be being redrawn, possibly resource intensive(?) and visually with its constant alterations, would be potentially quite distracting I suspect. Just for clarity please --- where would you see this having a usefulness? What sort of situation? Would LyX http://www.lyx.org/Screenshots be closer to providing what you need? 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From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 01:06:56 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:06:56 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ In-Reply-To: <4F18A5A7.4020901@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <7257F444-89EB-4D91-922A-BC29D2B91824@gmail.com> <4E9D5BB1.4000405@gmail.com> <4EAEF506.5030007@gmail.com> <4EAFB0DF.7080309@gmail.com> <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> <4F18A5A7.4020901@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: Sounds great Phillip. ( however I know that pdf previewer is a main developmental target at present.) I think code-folding has been suggested on the Issues list, perhaps worth adding it to that as all that stuff would probably all have to be looked at together? http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=160&q=code-folding Or a new issue on http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/list ? Would use standard components? Or require something like http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/QCodeEdit?content=99475 ? Paul On 20 January 2012 12:22, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > Slightly off-topic but also slightly related, > I would very much like block-mode select as > well as line mode, which (before Reinhard > points it out) also requires the editor to be > configured to use a monospaced font. > > ** Phil. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Fri Jan 20 01:17:49 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:17:49 +0100 Subject: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3548@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3548@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Message-ID: <20248.45741.751144.332726@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-19 at 13:23:21 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3548 at VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3548 at VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) FCC: ~/.Mail/sent-mail Reply-to: reinhard.kotucha at web.de FCC: ~/.Mail/folders/sent-mail --text follows this line-- On 2012-01-19 at 13:23:21 -0800, Gou, Bei wrote: > You have the LaTex and I do not know if you tried to test what you > suggested in your LaTex. To which of the zillions of attached messages do you refer? > Thanks a lot. > Bei > > > -----Original Message----- > From: texworks-bounces at tug.org [mailto:texworks-bounces at tug.org] On Behalf Of texworks-request at tug.org > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:00 AM > To: texworks at tug.org > Subject: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 > > Send texworks mailing list submissions to > texworks at tug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > texworks-request at tug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > texworks-owner at tug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of texworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Gou, Bei) > 2. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Herbert Schulz) > 3. Re: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 (Reinhard Kotucha) > 4. Re: Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ (Felix Wieczorek) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:13:45 -0800 > From: "Gou, Bei" > To: "texworks at tug.org" > Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 > Message-ID: > <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3168 at VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Vladimir, > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit first, which is time-consuming. > > Thanks a lot again. > > Bei > > > -----Original Message----- > From: texworks-bounces at tug.org [mailto:texworks-bounces at tug.org] On Behalf Of texworks-request at tug.org > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:00 AM > To: texworks at tug.org > Subject: texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 > > Send texworks mailing list submissions to > texworks at tug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > texworks-request at tug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > texworks-owner at tug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of texworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: log file you requested (Vladimir Lomov) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:59:56 +0900 > From: Vladimir Lomov > To: texworks at tug.org > Subject: Re: [texworks] log file you requested > Message-ID: <20120118005956.GH972 at smoon> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello, > ** Gou, Bei [2012-01-17 14:10:02 -0800]: > > > Dear Reinhard, > > > Would you please check the attached log file for another format? This > > is the right format I will use for this paper. I have the same > > problem: cannot include the figures in the paper. > > I'm not a Reinhard but could help a little. > > 1. This mailing list is intended to discuss TeXworks ? the TeX front end. Please see 'http://www.tug.org/mailman/listinfo' page, you need texhax ML. > > 2. Make a minimal [not]working example, see 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minxampl' > > 3. Read information about LaTeX, see for example 'http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=tutbitslatex' > > 4. There are two graphic packages for LaTeX: 'graphics' and 'graphicx'. > In most cases the second is preferable (read documentation about them). > Both are distributed by modern TeX distributions (MiKTeX and TeX Live). > > 5. LaTeX format is supported by several engines: latex, pdflatex, xelatex and lualatex. First one support images only in EPS format, pdflatex support images in formats: PDF, JPEG, PNG (may be other raster formats). > The most suitable way to include images is following: > > \includegraphics{6bus} > > If you want to set explicitly height of an image use 'height' key, \includegraphics[height=2.0in]{6bus} > > (I take file name from your log file). > > There are at least two problems with your document: > > 1. you use "old" command to insert images, Reinhard suggest to use 'graphicx' package (as would I), you change the document preamble but don't change commands therefore one error message about 'Undefined control sequence'; change all '\psfig' commands like below: > (taken from log file) > change > \psfig{file=6bus.ps,height=2.0in} > to > \includegraphics{6bus} %%% don't specify height if image is inserted correctly > > To work with both latex and pdflatex and don't bother what engine do you use convert your PS images also to PDF format with the help of 'epstopdf' program (should be available in MiKTeX, if not install apropriate package) like C:\> epstopdf 6bus.ps This command will create file '6bus.pdf'. After that above command '\includegraphics' > will work correctly with latex and pdflatex. Another option is to use 'epstopdf' _package_, just add it to your document preamble. > > 2. The second problem with math. From log file follows that on line 94, environment 'eqnarray', the '\left{' should have the paired '\right' > command on the same 'line' (i.e. '\left' and '\right' shouldn't be separated by '\\'). Without real document it is hard to say what exactly is wrong. Also consider to switch to 'amsmath' package with more convenient environments 'multline', 'gather', '[fl]align', 'slpit' (see documentation). > > > Thanks a lot, > > Bei > You are welcome. > > --- > WBR, Vladimir Lomov > > -- > Everything you know is wrong! > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > texworks mailing list > texworks at tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks > > > End of texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 > **************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:54:12 -0600 > From: Herbert Schulz > To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." > Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Gou, Bei wrote: > > > Dear Vladimir, > > > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit first, which is time-consuming. > > > > Thanks a lot again. > > > > Bei > > Howdy, > > I'm not a Windows user but I'll bet that MikTeX 2.8 already has the graphicx package installed so you need only add the command > > \usepackage{graphicx} > > to the preamble of your document. > > Like others, I really suggest you get some good documentation on using LaTeX. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:05:35 +0100 > From: Reinhard Kotucha > To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." > Subject: Re: [texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13 > Message-ID: <20247.6143.447045.186468 at zaphod.ms25.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On 2012-01-18 at 11:54:12 -0600, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > > > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Gou, Bei wrote: > > > > > Dear Vladimir, > > > > > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply and assistance. > > > > > > I do not know if I can send the files to you and you can help me > > to correct it. I really do not know how to perform several steps, > > like how to get the 'graphicx' package, how to the figure in .ps > > format to PDF format, etc. Our school has a very strict rules for > > installing external programs. We have to apply for the permit > > first, which is time-consuming. > > > > > > Thanks a lot again. > > > > > > Bei > > > > Howdy, > > > > I'm not a Windows user but I'll bet that MikTeX 2.8 already has the > graphicx package installed so you need only add the command > > \usepackage{graphicx} > > to the preamble of your document. > > This is what he already does, according to the log file. See my mail from yesterday. But he still tries to include PostScript files in pdfTeX with \psfig, which cannot work. > > Regards, > Reinhard > > > Like others, I really suggest you get some good documentation on using LaTeX. > > > > Good Luck, > > > > Herb Schulz > > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > > > > > > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 > Marschnerstr. 25 > D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:50:25 +0100 > From: Felix Wieczorek > To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." > Subject: Re: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ > Message-ID: > <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA at horde.wieczorek-systems.de> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes > > For the Editor it would be great to add an option to display a > vertical line at > a specified column, (as an orientation for breaks). > > -- > Felix Wieczorek > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > texworks mailing list > texworks at tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks > > > End of texworks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14 > **************************************** > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lomov.vl at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 01:56:54 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:56:54 +0900 Subject: [texworks] [texhax] Problem with a LaTeX file (Was: log file you requested) In-Reply-To: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3547@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> References: <721901918003A945A6C38DF967CC90590690AE3547@VA3DIAXVS661.RED001.local> Message-ID: <20120120005654.GA994@smoon> Hello, ** Gou, Bei [2012-01-19 13:21:37 -0800]: > I tried what you suggested, but still cannot solve the problems. I am very sorry about this. As I already mentioned, texhax mailing list would be more apropriate for this discussion (see the topic name), so I Cc to texhax ML. > The deadline of the paper submission is closer. No help here. > Thanks a lot again for your great help. If you realy want help on your LaTeX file you should, of course, know something about LaTeX (I have felling that you don't see latex file for many years). To get help you should 1) inform others about you progress (did you change your '\psfig' commands, convert figures, try to isolate problem with math) and show you log again (after modification). > Bei --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- We were young and our happiness dazzled us with its strength. But there was also a terrible betrayal that lay within me like a Merle Haggard song at a French restaurant. [...] I could not tell the girl about the woman of the tollway, of her milk white BMW and her Jordache smile. There had been a fight. I had punched her boyfriend, who fought the mechanical bulls. Everyone told him, "You ride the bull, senor. You do not fight it." But he was lean and tough like a bad rib-eye and he fought the bull. And then he fought me. And when we finished there were no winners, just men doing what men must do. [...] "Stop the car," the girl said. There was a look of terrible sadness in her eyes. She knew about the woman of the tollway. I knew not how. I started to speak, but she raised an arm and spoke with a quiet and peace I will never forget. "I do not ask for whom's the tollway belle," she said, "the tollway belle's for thee." The next morning our youth was a memory, and our happiness was a lie. Life is like a bad margarita with good tequila, I thought as I poured whiskey onto my granola and faced a new day. -- Peter Applebome, International Imitation Hemingway Competition From felix at wieczorek-systems.de Fri Jan 20 13:49:23 2012 From: felix at wieczorek-systems.de (Felix Wieczorek) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:49:23 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ In-Reply-To: References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <7257F444-89EB-4D91-922A-BC29D2B91824@gmail.com> <4E9D5BB1.4000405@gmail.com> <4EAEF506.5030007@gmail.com> <4EAFB0DF.7080309@gmail.com> <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Message-ID: <20120120134923.Horde.TdPYWmUEqbNPGWLTVYBjbdA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Reinhard is right, this needs a monospaced font. The line is useful for good overview in the source .tex, not for breaking lines in the resulting document. It aims to the same as Format->Hard Wrap... but is only a hint for wrapping lines. The feature would be useful for helping to format the source .tex document independent of the width of the source window, without producing the format to the fully automatic "Hard Wrap...". (In exceptional cases it might be appropriate to have longer lines) Greetings, Felix -- Felix Wieczorek --- Paul A Norman wrote at Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:18:11 +1300: --- > Dear Felix, > > I think that Rheinhard has gathered better what you mean --- are you > suggesting that you want to know where to break lines in > the finished output (say .pdf) by being able to see a vertical line in the > TeXworks .tex editor? > > Under Windows there is a standard api (GetTextmetrics GetTextExtent32 etc > and newer) for calculating the fonted effect of a portion of > plain ASCII --- however this would not take into account any of the LaTeX > packages that you were using or other effects, and would rely on .ttf or > .otf (and perhaps .ps) fonts only. > > Such a calculation could only produce a jagged or zigzag (sometimes > disjointed?) line in a plain text editor like TeXworks, and even if it > could pre-calculate any output justification -- would constantly be being > redrawn, possibly resource intensive(?) and visually with > its constant alterations, would be potentially quite distracting I suspect. > > Just for clarity please --- where would you see this having a usefulness? > What sort of situation? > > Would LyX http://www.lyx.org/Screenshots be closer to providing what you > need? > > Paul > > > > On 19 January 2012 23:50, Felix Wieczorek wrote: > >> For the Editor it would be great to add an option to display a vertical >> line at >> a specified column, (as an orientation for breaks). >> >> -- >> Felix Wieczorek >> >> From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Sat Jan 21 00:47:18 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:47:18 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ In-Reply-To: References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <7257F444-89EB-4D91-922A-BC29D2B91824@gmail.com> <4E9D5BB1.4000405@gmail.com> <4EAEF506.5030007@gmail.com> <4EAFB0DF.7080309@gmail.com> <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Message-ID: <20249.64774.113085.776292@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-20 at 12:18:11 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote: > Under Windows there is a standard api (GetTextmetrics > GetTextExtent32 etc and newer) for calculating the fonted effect of > a portion of plain ASCII Doesn't Qt provide a system independent layer of abstraction for these things? Isn't there something like the the PostScript operator stringwidth, which takes font metrics into account? I would be amazed if not. > --- however this would not take into account any of the LaTeX > packages that you were using or other effects, and would rely on > .ttf or .otf (and perhaps .ps) fonts only. I don't see any relationship to LaTeX packages. Of course, when talking about line breaking in text editors, it's essential to distinguish between ordinary text and computer code. Not everybody is using LaTeX, but I think that it's sufficient to provide a primitive which protects a particular line from being broken automatically. In order to determine where (at which line number) a verbatim section begins or ends, it's best to consult a script. This way it's possible to support other formats than LaTeX too. And if LaTeX macro packages provide verbatim-like environments which do not start with \begin{verbatim}, it's easy enough to adapt the script by adding a dedicated regular expression. As far as non-(Type1|TTF|OTF) fonts are concerned, the only format used in the TeX world is what Metafont creates. However, these bitmap fonts are usually not accessible by anything else but TeX itself. IMO it's not worth thinking about them, nowadays nobody wants to use fonts anymore where glyphs consist of toy building bricks. Fortunately, almost(?) all these fonts are available as Type1. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 01:00:59 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:00:59 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ In-Reply-To: <20249.64774.113085.776292@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <7257F444-89EB-4D91-922A-BC29D2B91824@gmail.com> <4E9D5BB1.4000405@gmail.com> <4EAEF506.5030007@gmail.com> <4EAFB0DF.7080309@gmail.com> <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> <20249.64774.113085.776292@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: Thanks Reinhard, I was writing before the following was clarified by Felix ... "The line is useful for good overview in the source .tex, not for breaking lines in the resulting document." So a lot of the discussion is redundant. I was writing form the perspective of Felix wanting to know when a line broke in the .dvi or .pdf output (and be warned in the TeXworks editor), as I could not understand why if Edit/Preferences/Editor/ Wrap Lines is ticked, you would need to know where to manually break lines in the TeXworks editor at all? Paul On 21 January 2012 12:47, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > On 2012-01-20 at 12:18:11 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote: > > > Under Windows there is a standard api (GetTextmetrics > > GetTextExtent32 etc and newer) for calculating the fonted effect of > > a portion of plain ASCII > > Doesn't Qt provide a system independent layer of abstraction for these > things? Isn't there something like the the PostScript operator > stringwidth, which takes font metrics into account? I would be amazed > if not. > > > --- however this would not take into account any of the LaTeX > > packages that you were using or other effects, and would rely on > > .ttf or .otf (and perhaps .ps) fonts only. > > I don't see any relationship to LaTeX packages. Of course, when > talking about line breaking in text editors, it's essential to > distinguish between ordinary text and computer code. Not everybody is > using LaTeX, but I think that it's sufficient to provide a primitive > which protects a particular line from being broken automatically. In > order to determine where (at which line number) a verbatim section > begins or ends, it's best to consult a script. This way it's possible > to support other formats than LaTeX too. And if LaTeX macro packages > provide verbatim-like environments which do not start with > \begin{verbatim}, it's easy enough to adapt the script by adding a > dedicated regular expression. > > As far as non-(Type1|TTF|OTF) fonts are concerned, the only format > used in the TeX world is what Metafont creates. However, these bitmap > fonts are usually not accessible by anything else but TeX itself. > IMO it's not worth thinking about them, nowadays nobody wants to use > fonts anymore where glyphs consist of toy building bricks. > Fortunately, almost(?) all these fonts are available as Type1. > > Regards, > Reinhard > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Reinhard Kotucha Phone: > +49-511-3373112 > Marschnerstr. 25 > D-30167 Hannover mailto: > reinhard.kotucha at web.de > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is > NO. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Sat Jan 21 01:43:18 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:43:18 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for TeXworks 0.4.3+ In-Reply-To: References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <7257F444-89EB-4D91-922A-BC29D2B91824@gmail.com> <4E9D5BB1.4000405@gmail.com> <4EAEF506.5030007@gmail.com> <4EAFB0DF.7080309@gmail.com> <4EB01EDE.4010702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20120119115025.Horde.FobzWGUEqbNPF-VxHI23eCA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> <20249.64774.113085.776292@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <20250.2598.819708.923260@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-21 at 13:00:59 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote: > Thanks Reinhard, > > I was writing before the following was clarified by Felix ... "The > line is useful for good overview in the source .tex, not for > breaking lines in the resulting document." What I said is solely related to the source document. I never had TeX's output in mind. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From st.loeffler at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 15:32:58 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIEzDtmZmbGVy?=) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:32:58 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Updated Simplified Chinese translation for TeXworks r954 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F1C1E1A.40508@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-01-19 16:11, Yinhe Zhang wrote: > I have finally got some time to do the Chinese translation. The > attached files are for the Simplified Chinese translation which is > updated to TeXworks r954. Thanks a lot. Committed as r956. Cheers, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 15:35:26 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIEzDtmZmbGVy?=) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:35:26 +0100 Subject: [texworks] "Download TeXworks" box, please test In-Reply-To: <1324652278.13334.10.camel@linux-badshah.campus.hri> References: <4EEDEBB8.1040303@gmail.com> <1324236118.10150.5.camel@linux-badshah.campus.hri> <1324240632.11855.5.camel@linux-badshah.campus.hri> <4EEEDE66.6050807@gmail.com> <1324652278.13334.10.camel@linux-badshah.campus.hri> Message-ID: <4F1C1EAE.9060308@gmail.com> Hi, On 2011-12-23 15:57, Atri wrote: > I would suggest that a note be added above the box in the webpage (for > Linux users only, you can get that from the useragent string in any > case) that says something along the lines of "Please check if your > Linux distribution already provides an up-to-date version of Texworks > in the default repositories. Otherwise, get it from here:-". Probably > should be worded less technically. What do you think? Excellent idea. I incorporated this into the download box. In addition, for Windows and the Mac, I added a note that alternatively Tw may be available through the TeX distro (I'm not completely sure in case of the Mac). So, since I finally had some time, I added this to the homepage now. Cheers, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 15:50:01 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:50:01 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for pdf previewer In-Reply-To: <20143.14998.864253.992861@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <20094.22078.692942.799010@zaphod.ms25.net> <4EAEF868.3080601@gmail.com> <20143.14998.864253.992861@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <4F1C2219.7010409@gmail.com> Hi, On 2011-11-01 01:17, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > > Would a measurement tool work as well? For starters, this could be as > > simple as showing the cursor coordinates somewhere in the status bar, > > but could be extended to measure, e.g., the length or angles of lines. > > Rulers should be doable as well, but their implementation is probably > > not straight-forward when in continuous mode (as different pages may > > have different sizes and orientations) and possibly not very helpful on > > some cases (e.g., when wanting to measure something in the center of the > > page). > > Yes, a measurement tool would be fine. And with marquee zoom you get > a quite good resolution. gv is showing the cursor coordinates already > but what I'm missing there is to be able to change the origin and the > unit of measure. OK, a measurement tool is implemented now (on github, not yet ported to the main Tw branch). The cursor coordinates are not shown (I'm not sure if that is helpful, anyway?) but you can draw a line between any two points on the page (with the option to snap to horizontal or vertical lines) and it displays the length of the line, in the units defined at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Useful_Measurement_Macros - hope that's convenient enough, for starters, anyway. And it works with marquee zoom ;). And the line can be edited (i.e., each of the two endpoints can be adjusted independently, the line can be moved as a whole, and the length updates dynamically). Cheers, Stefan From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Mon Jan 23 01:00:41 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 01:00:41 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Wishlist for pdf previewer In-Reply-To: <4F1C2219.7010409@gmail.com> References: <4E7B5B1F.40904@gmail.com> <20094.22078.692942.799010@zaphod.ms25.net> <4EAEF868.3080601@gmail.com> <20143.14998.864253.992861@zaphod.ms25.net> <4F1C2219.7010409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20252.41769.417992.208735@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-01-22 at 15:50:01 +0100, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2011-11-01 01:17, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > > > Would a measurement tool work as well? For starters, this could be as > > > simple as showing the cursor coordinates somewhere in the status bar, > > > but could be extended to measure, e.g., the length or angles of lines. > > > Rulers should be doable as well, but their implementation is probably > > > not straight-forward when in continuous mode (as different pages may > > > have different sizes and orientations) and possibly not very helpful on > > > some cases (e.g., when wanting to measure something in the center of the > > > page). > > > > Yes, a measurement tool would be fine. And with marquee zoom you get > > a quite good resolution. gv is showing the cursor coordinates already > > but what I'm missing there is to be able to change the origin and the > > unit of measure. > > OK, a measurement tool is implemented now (on github, not yet ported to > the main Tw branch). The cursor coordinates are not shown (I'm not sure > if that is helpful, anyway?) but you can draw a line between any two > points on the page (with the option to snap to horizontal or vertical > lines) and it displays the length of the line, in the units defined at > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Useful_Measurement_Macros - hope > that's convenient enough, for starters, anyway. And it works with > marquee zoom ;). And the line can be edited (i.e., each of the two > endpoints can be adjusted independently, the line can be moved as a > whole, and the length updates dynamically). Hi Stefan, this sounds great. Thank you very much! Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From vladimir.kalitvianski at wanadoo.fr Fri Jan 27 12:27:10 2012 From: vladimir.kalitvianski at wanadoo.fr (KALITVIANSKI Vladimir) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:27:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: [texworks] No executables in distributions Message-ID: <694383574.112520.1327663630781.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m18> Dear Sirs, I installed your TeXworks package, but it does not have the exe-files to do its job. The same happened to LEd LATEX editor and to WinEdt 6. I do not understand how it is possible not to have executables in the distributions. I verified all folders - ther are no necessary executable like latex.exe in LEd, pdflatex.exe in your case, etc. What is going on? Regards, Vladimir. ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r858 (official) Install location : C:/Program Files/TeXworks/TeXworks.exe Library path???? : C:/Documents and Settings/Compaq_Propri?taire/TeXworks\ pdfTeX location? : not found Operating system : Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 Qt4 version????? : 4.7.3 (build) / 4.7.3 (runtime) ------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iwan.setyawan at computer.org Fri Jan 27 16:32:01 2012 From: iwan.setyawan at computer.org (Iwan Setyawan) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:32:01 +0700 Subject: [texworks] No executables in distributions In-Reply-To: <694383574.112520.1327663630781.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m18> References: <694383574.112520.1327663630781.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m18> Message-ID: Texworks is only a front end to latex. You still need a working latex distribution such as texlive 2011 in order to create documents. - iwan On Jan 27, 2012 10:27 PM, "KALITVIANSKI Vladimir" < vladimir.kalitvianski at wanadoo.fr> wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I installed your TeXworks package, but it does not have the exe-files to > do its job. The same happened to LEd LATEX editor and to WinEdt 6. I do not > understand how it is possible not to have executables in the distributions. > I verified all folders - ther are no necessary executable like latex.exe in > LEd, pdflatex.exe in your case, etc. What is going on? > > Regards, > > Vladimir. > > > > > ----- configuration info ----- > TeXworks version : 0.4.3r858 (official) > Install location : C:/Program Files/TeXworks/TeXworks.exe > Library path : C:/Documents and Settings/Compaq_Propri?taire/TeXworks\ > pdfTeX location : not found > Operating system : Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 > Qt4 version : 4.7.3 (build) / 4.7.3 (runtime) > ------------------------------ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cursus.publicus at sacrumromanumimperium.org Fri Jan 27 16:32:46 2012 From: cursus.publicus at sacrumromanumimperium.org (Andreas Hirsch) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:32:46 +0100 Subject: [texworks] No executables in distributions In-Reply-To: <694383574.112520.1327663630781.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m18> References: <694383574.112520.1327663630781.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m18> Message-ID: <4F22C39E.7080307@sacrumromanumimperium.org> Hi Vladimir, quoting KALITVIANSKI Vladimir, [27.01.2012 12:27 +0100]: > Dear Sirs, > > I installed your TeXworks package, but it does not have the exe-files > to do its job. The same happened to LEd LATEX editor and to WinEdt 6. > I do not understand how it is possible not to have executables in the > distributions. I verified all folders - ther are no necessary > executable like latex.exe in LEd, pdflatex.exe in your case, etc. > What is going on? In all three cases, you did only an installation for an editor, not for any TeX-System like TeXLive or MiKTeX. Take a look at http://www.tug.org/texlive/ or http://www.miktex.org/ Andreas -- 'Computers are getting smarter all the time. Scientists tell us that soon they will be able to talk to us. (And by 'they', I mean 'computers'. I doubt scientists will ever be able to talk to us.)' (Dave Barry) From colin.mclarty at case.edu Sat Jan 28 19:57:35 2012 From: colin.mclarty at case.edu (Colin McLarty) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:57:35 -0500 Subject: [texworks] Deleting bbl as an Aux file Message-ID: I switched from another front end to TeXworks a few years ago, and it is working well for me. But it would be very helpful if the Remove Aux Files command would delete the bbl. Every time I have a problem generated by an aux file, it is the bbl file. Then I have to go to the Open File command, and go to the display box to select "Auxiliary files," and find the offending bbl and delete it. So "Open File" considers bbls as auxiliary files. I wish Remove Aux Files would too. Is there a way I can easily modify the Remove command to make it include bbl? Colin From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 18:50:09 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:50:09 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Deleting bbl as an Aux file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F26D851.5060708@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-01-28 19:57, Colin McLarty wrote: > I switched from another front end to TeXworks a few years ago, and it > is working well for me. But it would be very helpful if the Remove > Aux Files command would delete the bbl. > > Every time I have a problem generated by an aux file, it is the bbl > file. Then I have to go to the Open File command, and go to the > display box to select "Auxiliary files," and find the offending bbl > and delete it. So "Open File" considers bbls as auxiliary files. I > wish Remove Aux Files would too. > > Is there a way I can easily modify the Remove command to make it include bbl? Yes. You can add the following line to the file /configuration/texworks-config.txt: cleanup-patterns: $jobname.bbl For finding the resources director, please have a look at http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/TipsAndTricks#Locating_and_customizing_TeXworks_resources (as that is system-dependent). Putting this topic up for broader discussion, I'd be interested to hear what people on this list think about adding .bbl files to the "remove auxiliary files" list by default. I usually get them from BiBTeX, but are there workflows where they are not generated automatically during typesetting (e.g., written by hand, or produced by other applications that are not usually run together with LaTeX)? If so, it would be bad to offer to delete them by default, otherwise it might be worthwhile. Cheers, Stefan From esperanto at swing.be Mon Jan 30 19:49:49 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:49:49 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Deleting bbl as an Aux file In-Reply-To: <4F26D851.5060708@gmail.com> References: <4F26D851.5060708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F26E64D.7070901@swing.be> Hello! Le 30/01/2012 18:50, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > Hi, > > On 2012-01-28 19:57, Colin McLarty wrote: >> I switched from another front end to TeXworks a few years ago, and it >> is working well for me. But it would be very helpful if the Remove >> Aux Files command would delete the bbl. >> >> Every time I have a problem generated by an aux file, it is the bbl >> file. Then I have to go to the Open File command, and go to the >> display box to select "Auxiliary files," and find the offending bbl >> and delete it. So "Open File" considers bbls as auxiliary files. I >> wish Remove Aux Files would too. >> >> Is there a way I can easily modify the Remove command to make it include bbl? > > Yes. You can add the following line to the file > /configuration/texworks-config.txt: > cleanup-patterns: $jobname.bbl > > For finding the resources director, please have a look at > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/TipsAndTricks#Locating_and_customizing_TeXworks_resources > (as that is system-dependent). > > Putting this topic up for broader discussion, I'd be interested to hear > what people on this list think about adding .bbl files to the "remove > auxiliary files" list by default. I usually get them from BiBTeX, but > are there workflows where they are not generated automatically during > typesetting (e.g., written by hand, or produced by other applications > that are not usually run together with LaTeX)? If so, it would be bad to > offer to delete them by default, otherwise it might be worthwhile. But when one ask to delete the auxiliary files, one has a dialog box where you can select what to delete and what not. Or am I wrong? Alain > > Cheers, > Stefan > From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 20:15:37 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:15:37 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Deleting bbl as an Aux file In-Reply-To: <4F26E64D.7070901@swing.be> References: <4F26D851.5060708@gmail.com> <4F26E64D.7070901@swing.be> Message-ID: <4F26EC59.7070300@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-01-30 19:49, Alain Delmotte wrote: >> >> Putting this topic up for broader discussion, I'd be interested to hear >> what people on this list think about adding .bbl files to the "remove >> auxiliary files" list by default. I usually get them from BiBTeX, but >> are there workflows where they are not generated automatically during >> typesetting (e.g., written by hand, or produced by other applications >> that are not usually run together with LaTeX)? If so, it would be bad to >> offer to delete them by default, otherwise it might be worthwhile. > > > But when one ask to delete the auxiliary files, one has a dialog box > where you can select what to delete and what not. > > Or am I wrong? You're right. But what is listed there is customizable (through /configuration/texworks-config.txt). After all, you wouldn't want, say, .tex files ending up there, and Tw doesn't know about file types (for it, all files are text or image files). So, the question is: should we add .bbl files to that list, or could they be non-auxiliary files (under some usual workflow)? Stefan From lomov.vl at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 01:24:33 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:24:33 +0900 Subject: [texworks] Deleting bbl as an Aux file In-Reply-To: <4F26EC59.7070300@gmail.com> References: <4F26D851.5060708@gmail.com> <4F26E64D.7070901@swing.be> <4F26EC59.7070300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120131002433.GA13420@smoon> Hello, ** Stefan L?ffler [2012-01-30 20:15:37 +0100]: > Hi, > On 2012-01-30 19:49, Alain Delmotte wrote: >>> Putting this topic up for broader discussion, I'd be interested to hear >>> what people on this list think about adding .bbl files to the "remove >>> auxiliary files" list by default. I usually get them from BiBTeX, but >>> are there workflows where they are not generated automatically during >>> typesetting (e.g., written by hand, or produced by other applications >>> that are not usually run together with LaTeX)? If so, it would be bad to >>> offer to delete them by default, otherwise it might be worthwhile. >> But when one ask to delete the auxiliary files, one has a dialog box >> where you can select what to delete and what not. >> Or am I wrong? > You're right. But what is listed there is customizable (through > /configuration/texworks-config.txt). After all, you wouldn't > want, say, .tex files ending up there, and Tw doesn't know about file > types (for it, all files are text or image files). I'm agree, though I didn't know it is possible to customize list of 'removed auxiliary files'. > So, the question is: should we add .bbl files to that list, or could > they be non-auxiliary files (under some usual workflow)? Sometimes bbl file shouldn't be deleted, e.g. I have BibTeX database for articles and book, but for some paper requires a bit changed referencing style. I do usual things, '\cite', processing file, getting 'bbl' one and edit it by hand (actually redefine a command) to get proper reference style. --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- It is true that if your paperboy throws your paper into the bushes for five straight days it can be explained by Newton's Law of Gravity. But it takes Murphy's law to explain why it is happening to you. From daniel.zelterman at yale.edu Tue Feb 14 20:57:35 2012 From: daniel.zelterman at yale.edu (Daniel Zelterman) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:57:35 -0500 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <4F3ABCAF.5030403@yale.edu> TexWorks has stopped working. Well, I receive this message about 5-6 times an hour. Everything entered since my last save is LOST!! Any suggestions? Thanks! Dan ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.3r670 (MiKTeX 2.9) Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-texworks.exe Library path : C:\Users\Daniel Zelterman\AppData\Local\MiKTeX\2.9\TeXworks\ pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows 7 Business Edition, 32-bit Service Pack 1 (build 7601) Qt4 version : 4.7.0 (build) / 4.7.0 (runtime) ------------------------------ -- Daniel Zelterman Professor, Division of Biostatistics Epidemiology and Public Health: LEPH 204 Yale University School of Medicine 333 Cedar Street PO Box 208034 New Haven CT 06520 - 8034 203 - 785 - 5574 voice 203 - 785 - 6912 fax daniel.zelterman at yale.edu http://medicine.yale.edu/ysph/people/daniel_zelterman.profile _________________________________________________________ From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 10:00:22 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:00:22 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <4F3ABCAF.5030403@yale.edu> References: <4F3ABCAF.5030403@yale.edu> Message-ID: Dear Dan, Would you mind please having a look at this TeXworks code issue, and see if anything there reminds you of how this happens? http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=504 ... Some of that kind of behaviour has bee fixed by the C++ developers ... You appear to be using an earlier MiKTeX release of TeXworks, you can update your MiKTeX installation form its own MiKTeX menus (mine previously updated TeXworks to version 0.4.3 r857 and yours is presntly marked as r670) and that may update your version of TeXworks Or you can download a more recent development copy of TeXworks directly if you wish, from http://code.google.com/p/texworks/downloads/list and install it to its own folder. That would end up being a separate installation of TeXworks (currently http://code.google.com/p/texworks/downloads/detail?name=TeXworks-w32-0.5-r952.zip&can=2&q= 2011 December 11th) from your MiKTeX one, and try that. Paul On 15 February 2012 08:57, Daniel Zelterman wrote: > TexWorks has stopped working. > > Well, I receive this message about 5-6 times an hour. > Everything entered since my last save is LOST!! > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > Dan > > ----- configuration info ----- > TeXworks version : 0.3r670 (MiKTeX 2.9) > Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-** > texworks.exe > Library path : C:\Users\Daniel Zelterman\AppData\Local\** > MiKTeX\2.9\TeXworks\ > pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe > Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows 7 Business Edition, 32-bit > Service Pack 1 (build 7601) > Qt4 version : 4.7.0 (build) / 4.7.0 (runtime) > ------------------------------ > > -- > Daniel Zelterman > Professor, Division of Biostatistics > Epidemiology and Public Health: LEPH 204 > Yale University School of Medicine > 333 Cedar Street PO Box 208034 > New Haven CT 06520 - 8034 > > 203 - 785 - 5574 voice > 203 - 785 - 6912 fax > > daniel.zelterman at yale.edu > http://medicine.yale.edu/ysph/**people/daniel_zelterman.**profile > ______________________________**___________________________ > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nignasi at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 11:31:31 2012 From: nignasi at gmail.com (Ignasi) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:31:31 +0100 Subject: [texworks] What's "Save Progress Copy"? Message-ID: Hi all, today suddenly a window entitled "Save Progress Copy?" appeared with TeXworks. I don't know how to avoid it. What happen to my computer from yesterday night? Windowsxp automatic update. By mistake I changed *.tex files to be opened with Miktex-Texworks instead my svn-mingw32-compiled version (now changed again). I don't remember anything else. I understand that it tries to save a copy of my file, but I don't find where to stop appering. Thank you, Ignasi -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 12:26:08 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:26:08 +1300 Subject: [texworks] What's "Save Progress Copy"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ah the mysteries of computers Ignasi, Actually you may possibly have one or more of my hook scripts operating - you must have restored the directory it is in when you restored the directory structure for your svn-mingw32-compiled version? It provides very very basic version control/backup manually manualVersionSave.js (Alt+M, Alt+V, Alt+S) and form two automatic hook scripts on Document Open, and Typeset. Does it look like a drop-down box something like this ? ... [image: image.png] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13401476/TeXworks/Save-progress-copy.jpg You may have downloaded the script collection previously? http://twscript.paulanorman.com/downloads/?VersioningBasic *If it is the situation, *Just remove the two hook .js (autoSaveasonTypeset.js and autoSaveasonOpen.js) or you could go to your Tw Menu Scripts/Manage Scripts/ Hooks and untick one, or both of them [image: image.png] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13401476/TeXworks/untick-hooks.jpg Paul On 16 February 2012 23:31, wrote: > Hi all, > > today suddenly a window entitled "Save Progress Copy?" appeared with > TeXworks. I don't know how to avoid it. > > What happen to my computer from yesterday night? Windowsxp automatic > update. > By mistake I changed *.tex files to be opened with Miktex-Texworks instead > my svn-mingw32-compiled version (now changed again). > > I don't remember anything else. > > I understand that it tries to save a copy of my file, but I don't find > where to stop appering. > > Thank you, > > Ignasi > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 23765 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 22609 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nignasi at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 16:44:55 2012 From: nignasi at gmail.com (Ignasi) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:44:55 +0100 Subject: [texworks] What's "Save Progress Copy"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:26:08 +0100, Paul A Norman wrote: > Ah the mysteries of computers Ignasi, > > Actually you may possibly have one or more of my hook scripts operating > - > you must have restored the directory it is in when you restored the > directory structure for your svn-mingw32-compiled version? > > It provides very very basic version control/backup manually > manualVersionSave.js (Alt+M, Alt+V, Alt+S) and form two automatic hook > scripts on Document Open, and Typeset. > > Does it look like a drop-down box something like this ? ... > > [image: image.png] > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13401476/TeXworks/Save-progress-copy.jpg > > You may have downloaded the script collection previously? > > http://twscript.paulanorman.com/downloads/?VersioningBasic > > *If it is the situation, *Just remove the two hook .js > (autoSaveasonTypeset.js and autoSaveasonOpen.js) or you could go to > your Tw Menu Scripts/Manage Scripts/ Hooks > and untick one, or both of them > Problem solved unticking them. Thank you very much. Ignasi From ab421 at orange.fr Wed Feb 15 23:40:00 2012 From: ab421 at orange.fr (Alain Boyer) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:40:00 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <4F3C3440.7040804@orange.fr> ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9 64-bit) Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/x64/miktex-texworks.exe Library path : C:/Users/alain/AppData/Local/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/x64/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition, 64-bit Service Pack 1 (build 7601) Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) ------------------------------ How can I kill this error : texify.exe: Permission denied: axe-Z.log texify.exe: Data: axe-Z.log From lomov.vl at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 01:19:29 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:19:29 +0900 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <4F3C3440.7040804@orange.fr> References: <4F3C3440.7040804@orange.fr> Message-ID: <20120217001929.GA843@smoon> Hello, ** Alain Boyer [2012-02-15 23:40:00 +0100]: > ----- configuration info ----- > TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9 64-bit) > Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX > 2.9/miktex/bin/x64/miktex-texworks.exe > Library path : C:/Users/alain/AppData/Local/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ > pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/x64/pdftex.exe > Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition, > 64-bit Service Pack 1 (build 7601) > Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) > ------------------------------ > How can I kill this error : > texify.exe: Permission denied: axe-Z.log > texify.exe: Data: axe-Z.log According to messages this is not related with TeXworks. Start Explorer, go to directory with that file and delete the log file. After that try again. --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- Real Programmers don't write in FORTRAN. FORTRAN is for pipe stress freaks and crystallography weenies. FORTRAN is for wimp engineers who wear white socks. From gm at marris.fr Fri Feb 17 20:38:03 2012 From: gm at marris.fr (GM) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:38:03 +0100 Subject: [texworks] several replacements Message-ID: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> Hello, I need your help to write a script that would perform several replacements in a tex file. =================== \text{A} -> A \text{B} -> B ... \text{i} -> \ii \text{e} -> \e \Ouv -> \ouv ... (1 tab) -> (4 spaces) etc.. etc. =================== Thank you to specialists javascript to tell me how I could do that. From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 02:16:00 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:16:00 +1300 Subject: [texworks] several replacements In-Reply-To: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> References: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> Message-ID: Hi GM, Have you done some scripting before - are you wanting help in making your own script?or a finished script? Paul On 18 February 2012 08:38, GM wrote: > Hello, > > I need your help to write a script that would perform several replacements > in a tex file. > > =================== > \text{A} -> A > \text{B} -> B > ... > \text{i} -> \ii > \text{e} -> \e > \Ouv -> \ouv > ... > (1 tab) -> (4 spaces) > etc.. etc. > =================== > > Thank you to specialists javascript to tell me how I could do that. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gm at marris.fr Sat Feb 18 10:06:34 2012 From: gm at marris.fr (GM) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:06:34 +0100 Subject: [texworks] several replacements In-Reply-To: References: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> Message-ID: <4F3F6A1A.9010000@marris.fr> Le 18/02/2012 02:16, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > Hi GM, Bonjour, > Have you done some scripting before No, but I still tried to understand ... and it seems that this is what I asked. Did I not write too much nonsense? Thanks GM =========== // TeXworksScript // Title: ReplaceByGM // Description: Nettoyage du texte // Author: G.M. // Version: 0.1 // Date: 2012-02-18 // Script-Type: standalone // Context: TeXDocument // Shortcut: Alt+E, Alt+R String.prototype.replacebyGM = function() { var x=this.toString(); x=x.replace(/\\text\{A\}/g,"A"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{B\}/g,"B"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{C\}/g,"C"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{D\}/g,"D"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{E\}/g,"E"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{e\}/g,"\\e"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{i\}/g,"\\ii"); return x; }; var txt = TW.target.selection; if (txt != "") { var pos = TW.target.selectionStart; txt = txt.replacebyGM(); TW.target.insertText(txt); TW.target.selectRange(pos, txt.length); } undefined; =========== > > Paul > > On 18 February 2012 08:38, GM wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I need your help to write a script that would perform several replacements >> in a tex file. >> >> =================== >> \text{A} -> A >> \text{B} -> B >> ... >> \text{i} -> \ii >> \text{e} -> \e >> \Ouv -> \ouv >> ... >> (1 tab) -> (4 spaces) >> etc.. etc. >> =================== >> >> Thank you to specialists javascript to tell me how I could do that. >> >> > From gm at marris.fr Sat Feb 18 10:07:19 2012 From: gm at marris.fr (GM) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:07:19 +0100 Subject: [texworks] several replacements In-Reply-To: References: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> Message-ID: <4F3F6A47.70605@marris.fr> Le 18/02/2012 02:16, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > Hi GM, Bonjour, > Have you done some scripting before No, but I still tried to understand ... and it seems that this is what I asked. Did I not write too much nonsense? Thanks GM =========== // TeXworksScript // Title: ReplaceByGM // Description: Nettoyage du texte // Author: G.M. // Version: 0.1 // Date: 2012-02-18 // Script-Type: standalone // Context: TeXDocument // Shortcut: Alt+E, Alt+R String.prototype.replacebyGM = function() { var x=this.toString(); x=x.replace(/\\text\{A\}/g,"A"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{B\}/g,"B"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{C\}/g,"C"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{D\}/g,"D"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{E\}/g,"E"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{e\}/g,"\\e"); x=x.replace(/\\text\{i\}/g,"\\ii"); return x; }; var txt = TW.target.selection; if (txt != "") { var pos = TW.target.selectionStart; txt = txt.replacebyGM(); TW.target.insertText(txt); TW.target.selectRange(pos, txt.length); } undefined; =========== > > Paul > > On 18 February 2012 08:38, GM wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I need your help to write a script that would perform several replacements >> in a tex file. >> >> =================== >> \text{A} -> A >> \text{B} -> B >> ... >> \text{i} -> \ii >> \text{e} -> \e >> \Ouv -> \ouv >> ... >> (1 tab) -> (4 spaces) >> etc.. etc. >> =================== >> >> Thank you to specialists javascript to tell me how I could do that. >> >> > From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 13:15:40 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:15:40 +1300 Subject: [texworks] several replacements In-Reply-To: <4F3F6A1A.9010000@marris.fr> References: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> <4F3F6A1A.9010000@marris.fr> Message-ID: Hi GM, No worries ... I'm afraid that the English language can be a little ambiguous at times " I need your help to write a script that would " could imply both scenarios. What you have done looks great. You could try encapsulating the list of things to do as an array, or even better perhaps as an external text file that you can edit separately from your script if you need to change or add items. An external text file, say, "*myReplacements.txt*" could look similar to what you first indicated if you wished (but with only one space be fore and after our -> ), write/edit it in TeXworks so we get the correct line-breaks. Save it into the same directory as your script. something[space]->[space]somethingElse \text{A} -> A \text{B} -> B \text{i} -> \ii \text{e} -> \e \Ouv -> \ouv We'll get script to handle the \escaping, so that you/your Users can just write plain text with no extra backslashes required in *myReplacements.txt * * * * I have not thought through all that needs to be in** function escapeNeedle()* - its a bit late at night here now! So you may need to add anything else that would interfere with a regular expression. //====== Script ====== function escapeNeedle(needle) { needle = needle.replace(/\\/g, "\\\\"); needle = needle.replace(/\{/g, "\\{"); needle = needle.replace(/\}/g, "\\}"); needle = needle.replace(/\[/g, "\\["); needle = needle.replace(/\]/g, "\\]"); // and others as needed return needle; } function altertext(txt) { for (count in myReplacementList) { var actionThis = myReplacementList[count].split(" -> "); // 0 = find, 1 = replace with actionThis[0] = escapeNeedle(actionThis[0]); var regExprsn = new RegExp(actionThis[0], "g"); // TW.information(null,"",regExprsn); txt = txt.replace(regExprsn, actionThis[1]); } return txt; } // this will give us an array element for each line in file // assuming file has been set, or script is pointless var myReplacementList = TW.readFile("myReplacements.txt").result.split("\n"); // could split above into steps and check for status first see http://twscript.paulanorman.com/docs/html/TexWorksQtScripting.html?readFile.html var txt = TW.target.selection; var pos = TW.target.selectionStart; if (myReplacementList == false) // file is probably empty { TW.information(null,"","Please Create and populate myReplacements.txt in Script's folder.\n\n" +" Format:\nsomething[space]->[space]somethingElse\ne.g.\n" +"\\text{A} -> A"); } else if (txt != "") { txt = altertext(txt); TW.target.insertText(txt); TW.target.selectRange(pos, txt.length); } else { TW.information(null,"","Please Select Some text First"); } //===== End Script ==== Hope that this helps, thanks I'll probably use it myself from time to time! Paul On 18 February 2012 22:06, GM wrote: > Le 18/02/2012 02:16, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > >> Hi GM, >> > > Bonjour, > > > Have you done some scripting before >> > > No, but I still tried to understand ... and it seems that this is what I > asked. > > Did I not write too much nonsense? > > Thanks > GM > > =========== > // TeXworksScript > // Title: ReplaceByGM > // Description: Nettoyage du texte > // Author: G.M. > // Version: 0.1 > // Date: 2012-02-18 > // Script-Type: standalone > // Context: TeXDocument > // Shortcut: Alt+E, Alt+R > > String.prototype.replacebyGM = function() { > var x=this.toString(); > x=x.replace(/\\text\{A\}/g,"A"**); > x=x.replace(/\\text\{B\}/g,"B"**); > x=x.replace(/\\text\{C\}/g,"C"**); > x=x.replace(/\\text\{D\}/g,"D"**); > x=x.replace(/\\text\{E\}/g,"E"**); > x=x.replace(/\\text\{e\}/g,"\\**e"); > x=x.replace(/\\text\{i\}/g,"\\**ii"); > return x; > }; > > var txt = TW.target.selection; > if (txt != "") { > var pos = TW.target.selectionStart; > txt = txt.replacebyGM(); > TW.target.insertText(txt); > TW.target.selectRange(pos, txt.length); > } > > undefined; > =========== > > > > >> Paul >> >> On 18 February 2012 08:38, GM wrote: >> >> Hello, >>> >>> I need your help to write a script that would perform several >>> replacements >>> in a tex file. >>> >>> =================== >>> \text{A} -> A >>> \text{B} -> B >>> ... >>> \text{i} -> \ii >>> \text{e} -> \e >>> \Ouv -> \ouv >>> ... >>> (1 tab) -> (4 spaces) >>> etc.. etc. >>> =================== >>> >>> Thank you to specialists javascript to tell me how I could do that. >>> >>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 05:05:41 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:05:41 +1300 Subject: [texworks] several replacements In-Reply-To: References: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> <4F3F6A1A.9010000@marris.fr> Message-ID: P.S. If you are going to processing a number of documents with similar but different settings (as in changing your custom LaTeX to meet a publisher's requirements), you could change the script to actually choose the version of "*myReplacements.txt*" to use... http://twscript.paulanorman.com/docs/html/getOpenFileNameQString.html and http://twscript.paulanorman.com/docs/html/readFile.html And if you want "*myReplacements.txt*" to allow for line(s) in it to be temporarily suspended, or for comments, start the line with a % \text{A} -> A %\text{B} -> B \text{i} -> \ii % put a note/comment here \text{e} -> \e \Ouv -> \ouv \text{B} -> B would not get processed. and change.. *function altertext*(txt) { for (count in myReplacementList) { if (myReplacementList[count].substr(0,1) == "%") { continue; } var actionThis = myReplacementList[count].split(" -> "); ... the rest of function } Also bulk alterations in "*myReplacements.txt*" could be for anything not just LaTeX Paul On 19 February 2012 01:15, Paul A Norman wrote: > Hi GM, > > No worries ... I'm afraid that the English language can be a little > ambiguous at times " I need your help to write a script that would " > could imply both scenarios. > > What you have done looks great. > > You could try encapsulating the list of things to do as an array, or even > better perhaps as an external text file that you can edit separately from > your script if you need to change or add items. > > An external text file, say, "*myReplacements.txt*" could look similar to > what you first indicated if you wished (but with only one space be fore and > after our -> ), write/edit it in TeXworks so we get the correct > line-breaks. Save it into the same directory as your script. > > something[space]->[space]somethingElse > > > \text{A} -> A > \text{B} -> B > \text{i} -> \ii > \text{e} -> \e > \Ouv -> \ouv > > We'll get script to handle the \escaping, so that you/your Users can > just write plain text with no extra backslashes required in * > myReplacements.txt * > * > * > * I have not thought through all that needs to be in** function > escapeNeedle()* - its a bit late at night here now! So you may need to > add anything else that would interfere with a regular expression. > > > //====== Script ====== > > function escapeNeedle(needle) > > { > > needle = needle.replace(/\\/g, "\\\\"); > > needle = needle.replace(/\{/g, "\\{"); > > needle = needle.replace(/\}/g, "\\}"); > > needle = needle.replace(/\[/g, "\\["); > > needle = needle.replace(/\]/g, "\\]"); > > > // and others as needed > > > return needle; > > } > > > function altertext(txt) > > { > > for (count in myReplacementList) > > { > > var actionThis = myReplacementList[count].split(" -> "); // 0 = find, > 1 = replace with > > > > actionThis[0] = escapeNeedle(actionThis[0]); > > > var regExprsn = new RegExp(actionThis[0], "g"); > > // TW.information(null,"",regExprsn); > > > txt = txt.replace(regExprsn, actionThis[1]); > > } > > > return txt; > > } > > > // this will give us an array element for each line in file > > // assuming file has been set, or script is pointless > > var myReplacementList = > TW.readFile("myReplacements.txt").result.split("\n"); > > > // could split above into steps and check for status first see > http://twscript.paulanorman.com/docs/html/TexWorksQtScripting.html?readFile.html > > > > var txt = TW.target.selection; > > var pos = TW.target.selectionStart; > > > if (myReplacementList == false) // file is probably empty > > { > > TW.information(null,"","Please Create and populate myReplacements.txt in > Script's folder.\n\n" > > +" Format:\nsomething[space]->[space]somethingElse\ne.g.\n" > > +"\\text{A} -> A"); > > } > > else > > if (txt != "") > > { > > txt = altertext(txt); > > TW.target.insertText(txt); > > TW.target.selectRange(pos, txt.length); > > } > > else > > { > > TW.information(null,"","Please Select Some text First"); > > } > > > //===== End Script ==== > > > Hope that this helps, thanks I'll probably use it myself from time to time! > > > Paul > > On 18 February 2012 22:06, GM wrote: > >> Le 18/02/2012 02:16, Paul A Norman a ?crit : >> >>> Hi GM, >>> >> >> Bonjour, >> >> >> Have you done some scripting before >>> >> >> No, but I still tried to understand ... and it seems that this is what I >> asked. >> >> Did I not write too much nonsense? >> >> Thanks >> GM >> >> =========== >> // TeXworksScript >> // Title: ReplaceByGM >> // Description: Nettoyage du texte >> // Author: G.M. >> // Version: 0.1 >> // Date: 2012-02-18 >> // Script-Type: standalone >> // Context: TeXDocument >> // Shortcut: Alt+E, Alt+R >> >> String.prototype.replacebyGM = function() { >> var x=this.toString(); >> x=x.replace(/\\text\{A\}/g,"A"**); >> x=x.replace(/\\text\{B\}/g,"B"**); >> x=x.replace(/\\text\{C\}/g,"C"**); >> x=x.replace(/\\text\{D\}/g,"D"**); >> x=x.replace(/\\text\{E\}/g,"E"**); >> x=x.replace(/\\text\{e\}/g,"\\**e"); >> x=x.replace(/\\text\{i\}/g,"\\**ii"); >> return x; >> }; >> >> var txt = TW.target.selection; >> if (txt != "") { >> var pos = TW.target.selectionStart; >> txt = txt.replacebyGM(); >> TW.target.insertText(txt); >> TW.target.selectRange(pos, txt.length); >> } >> >> undefined; >> =========== >> >> >> >> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 18 February 2012 08:38, GM wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I need your help to write a script that would perform several >>>> replacements >>>> in a tex file. >>>> >>>> =================== >>>> \text{A} -> A >>>> \text{B} -> B >>>> ... >>>> \text{i} -> \ii >>>> \text{e} -> \e >>>> \Ouv -> \ouv >>>> ... >>>> (1 tab) -> (4 spaces) >>>> etc.. etc. >>>> =================== >>>> >>>> Thank you to specialists javascript to tell me how I could do that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gm at marris.fr Sun Feb 19 10:58:31 2012 From: gm at marris.fr (GM) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:58:31 +0100 Subject: [texworks] several replacements In-Reply-To: References: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> <4F3F6A1A.9010000@marris.fr> Message-ID: <4F40C7C7.9070703@marris.fr> Le 19/02/2012 05:05, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > P.S. > > If you are going to processing a number of documents with similar but > different settings (as in changing your custom LaTeX to meet a publisher's > requirements), you could change the script to actually choose the version > of "*myReplacements.txt*" to use... I'll watch it all: thank you! If what I suggested ... gave me satisfaction, I have no doubt that what is proposed will give me ideas for future projects. From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 23:26:59 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:26:59 +1300 Subject: [texworks] several replacements In-Reply-To: <4F40C7C7.9070703@marris.fr> References: <4F3EAC9B.1090801@marris.fr> <4F3F6A1A.9010000@marris.fr> <4F40C7C7.9070703@marris.fr> Message-ID: Dear GM, If you end up making a script that you think may be generally useful and want to share it with other people, you could make a note about it and attach a zip here: http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?can=2&q=261&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Milestone%20Owner%20Summary&id=261 , ... or use some web space, git hub https://github.com or other, and leave a message with ITS web address at http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?can=2&q=261&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Milestone%20Owner%20Summary&id=261 Paul On 19 February 2012 22:58, GM wrote: > Le 19/02/2012 05:05, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > >> P.S. >> >> If you are going to processing a number of documents with similar but >> different settings (as in changing your custom LaTeX to meet a publisher's >> requirements), you could change the script to actually choose the version >> of "*myReplacements.txt*" to use... >> > > > I'll watch it all: thank you! > > If what I suggested ... gave me satisfaction, I have no doubt that what is > proposed will give me ideas for future projects. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Tue Feb 21 23:03:33 2012 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:03:33 -0600 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <0D63BFA7CFBB194F9BBD8EF4D8F852320146B07053E3@CRATUS.ttu.edu> References: <0D63BFA7CFBB194F9BBD8EF4D8F852320146B07053E3@CRATUS.ttu.edu> Message-ID: <865CD0B2-84DD-4E7A-AF97-16EDA4F34358@wideopenwest.com> On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Cheng, Yuanshan wrote: > Hi, > Could you please help me with "adding " package{array} in TEXlive? > I have no idea how to do that. > Best if you can provide screenshots. > Thank Howdy, The array package is already part of TeX Live. No installation necessary. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 01:01:32 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:01:32 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Lost Going Native In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Adam, Would you mind please using your new TeXworks help menu item "Emailing to the mailing List" and starting an email from there (it will include some helpful information). And for completeness, attaching to that new email a copy of your last log form trying to use your new TeXworks to Typeset a document that has worked ok in the past? It would be in the same directory as your main .tex document samename.log Paul On 22 February 2012 06:49, Adam Frank wrote: > I've been using the Windows pre-installed TeXworks software for years and > have become modestly fluent in it, but saw recently that it was version > 0.3.0 when there's a version 0.4.something out there so I figured I'd try > it, which meant downloading and installing. However, now when I run it, it > gives me an error about not having a Perl interpreter. Well of course I > don't--I don't even know what that is. > > So I've spent the last hour+ trying to figure out what I need to do. I > downloaded and installed TeXLive and latexmk, though not really > understanding what any of this stuff is, and I still get the same error > when I try to compile a LaTeX document. So... help? I'm just really lost > swimming in a sea of words and concepts I don't understand. > > Thank you, > Adam > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chuck at sharpsteen.net Wed Feb 22 05:17:48 2012 From: chuck at sharpsteen.net (Charlie Sharpsteen) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:17:48 -0800 Subject: [texworks] Lost Going Native In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Adam Frank wrote: > I've been using the Windows pre-installed TeXworks software for years and > have become modestly fluent in it, but saw recently that it was version > 0.3.0 when there's a version 0.4.something out there so I figured I'd try > it, which meant downloading and installing. However, now when I run it, it > gives me an error about not having a Perl interpreter. Well of course I > don't--I don't even know what that is. > > So I've spent the last hour+ trying to figure out what I need to do. I > downloaded and installed TeXLive and latexmk, though not really > understanding what any of this stuff is, and I still get the same error > when I try to compile a LaTeX document. So... help? I'm just really lost > swimming in a sea of words and concepts I don't understand. > > Thank you, > Adam > This usually happens when your TeX compiler (drop down menu next to the typeset button) gets set to `latexmk` which is a Perl script for compiling TeX documents and re-compiling them until the indices and bibliographies are all present. Of course, this requires a Perl interpreter in order to work. You probably want to set the compiler to something like `pdflatex` or `lualatex`. -Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phil.math.logic at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 16:37:57 2012 From: phil.math.logic at gmail.com (Adam Frank) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:37:57 -0500 Subject: [texworks] Lost Going Native -- Solved! Thank you! Message-ID: So Charlie Sharpsteen nailed it, thank you--so very much and if you're in New York I'll buy you beer! However I am just a little curious about these other features under the Typeset menu which I haven't explored: LaTeXmk, XeTeX, and so on. How are they different from pdfLaTeX and why does the former still not work though I've downloaded and installed latexmk? Not a pressing question, so if it's douchey of me to ask potentially difficult-to-explain questions after my problem has been solved, I humbly withdraw. In case it's an easy question, I've done as Paul Norman asked and below pasted the info, and attached said file. ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r858 (official) Install location : C:/Program Files (x86)/TeXworks/TeXworks.exe Library path : C:/Users/Adam/TeXworks\ pdfTeX location : C:/Users/Adam/Downloads/MiKTeX/MiKEx/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows 7 Service Pack 1, 64-bit Qt4 version : 4.7.3 (build) / 4.7.3 (runtime) ------------------------------ Thanks again! Adam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not a pressing question, so if it's > douchey of me to ask potentially difficult-to-explain questions after my > problem has been solved, I humbly withdraw. > > In case it's an easy question, I've done as Paul Norman asked and below > pasted the info, and attached said file. > > > > ----- configuration info ----- > TeXworks version : 0.4.3r858 (official) > Install location : C:/Program Files (x86)/TeXworks/TeXworks.exe > Library path : C:/Users/Adam/TeXworks\ > pdfTeX location : > C:/Users/Adam/Downloads/MiKTeX/MiKEx/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe > Operating system : Windows 7 Service Pack 1, 64-bit > Qt4 version : 4.7.3 (build) / 4.7.3 (runtime) > ------------------------------ > > Thanks again! > Adam > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chuck at sharpsteen.net Wed Feb 22 19:43:37 2012 From: chuck at sharpsteen.net (Charlie Sharpsteen) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:43:37 -0800 Subject: [texworks] Lost Going Native -- Solved! Thank you! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Adam Frank wrote: > So Charlie Sharpsteen nailed it, thank you--so very much and if you're in > New York I'll buy you beer! > > However I am just a little curious about these other features under the > Typeset menu which I haven't explored: LaTeXmk, XeTeX, and so on. How are > they different from pdfLaTeX and why does the former still not work though > I've downloaded and installed latexmk? Not a pressing question, so if it's > douchey of me to ask potentially difficult-to-explain questions after my > problem has been solved, I humbly withdraw. > This question can run deep, but here's the short version. PdfLaTeX is a program that reads a TeX file, interpretes all the commands, and then produces a PDF file. XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX are two programs that do the same thing but are under active development and have some more "modern" features. The most notable additions are that XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX are not restricted to a special set of "TeX Fonts" but can access any font that is installed on your system and that they can accept UTF-8 input which is a tremendous leap forward for non-english speakers who don't use the latin alphabet. BibTeX and MakeIndex are programs that are used to assembly the bibliography and index for a document. Usually the workflow for this operation requires running the TeX compiler in order to generate the list of required references, the auxiliary program to create those references, then the TeX compiler again to import the created references and then the TeX compiler yet again to fill out all the cross-references in the text. I.E: Run PdfLaTeX/LuaLaTeX/XeLaTeX (the TeX compiler) -> Run BibTeX and/or Makeindex -> Run the TeX compiler -> Run the TeX compiler yet again This can be tedious, so people write scripts like latexmk that automatically figure out what needs to be run in what order and how many times. For a complete look at what goes on behind the curtain, take a look at Arno Trautmann's illustrated essay "An overview of TEX, its children and their friends": http://mirror.ctan.org/info/tex-overview/tex-overview.pdf This contains info on most TeX-related programs, what they do, their history and how they relate to other programs. -Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Wed Feb 22 20:06:36 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:06:36 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Lost Going Native -- Solved! Thank you! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20293.15548.166680.482091@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-02-22 at 10:37:57 -0500, Adam Frank wrote: > So Charlie Sharpsteen nailed it, thank you--so very much and if > you're in New York I'll buy you beer! > > However I am just a little curious about these other features under > the Typeset menu which I haven't explored: LaTeXmk, XeTeX, and so > on. How are they different from pdfLaTeX and why does the former > still not work though I've downloaded and installed latexmk? Not a > pressing question, so if it's douchey of me to ask potentially > difficult-to-explain questions after my problem has been solved, I > humbly withdraw. > > In case it's an easy question, I've done as Paul Norman asked and > below pasted the info, and attached said file. Hi Adam, didn't you say that you installed TeX Live? According to your log file you are using MiKTeX. TeX Live provides a Perl engine in order to run scripts like latexmk, but MiKTeX doesn't. If you've TeX Live running, there is nothing to download/install. I suppose that you downloaded something but didn't finish the installation process. The recommended way to install TL is to get the network installer and follow the steps decribed at http://tug.org/texlive . TeX Live doesn't touch any existing MiKTeX. After installation it's the only TeX distribution visible to your system, but it's also possible to revert to MiKTeX without installing anything again. In order to see which distribution you are using, run tex --version on the command line or simply look at the top of the log file (very first line). Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From yuanshan.cheng at ttu.edu Fri Feb 24 17:47:47 2012 From: yuanshan.cheng at ttu.edu (Cheng, Yuanshan) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:47:47 -0600 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <0D63BFA7CFBB194F9BBD8EF4D8F852320146B07F2A99@CRATUS.ttu.edu> Hi, Please let me know how to add packages to texlive. Thanks so much ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r858 (official) Install location : C:/texlive/2011/tlpkg/texworks/texworks.exe Library path : C:/Users/yuacheng/.texlive2011/texmf-config/texworks\ pdfTeX location : C:/texlive/2011/bin/win32/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows 7 Service Pack 1, 32-bit Qt4 version : 4.7.3 (build) / 4.7.3 (runtime) ------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Fri Feb 24 19:45:12 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:45:12 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <0D63BFA7CFBB194F9BBD8EF4D8F852320146B07F2A99@CRATUS.ttu.edu> References: <0D63BFA7CFBB194F9BBD8EF4D8F852320146B07F2A99@CRATUS.ttu.edu> Message-ID: <20295.55992.474652.412856@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-02-24 at 10:47:47 -0600, Cheng, Yuanshan wrote: > Hi, > Please let me know how to add packages to texlive. Please run texdoc texlive or texdoc texlive-zh-cn on the command line. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From nignasi at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 09:52:18 2012 From: nignasi at gmail.com (Ignasi) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:52:18 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Updates page has gone! Message-ID: Hi all, until yesterday I was following TeXworks evolution through http://code.google.com/p/texworks/updates/list But today this link shows "The page you asked for does not exist." Is it a temporary problem? Thank you, Ignasi From joelcsalomon at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 18:23:51 2012 From: joelcsalomon at gmail.com (Joel C. Salomon) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:51 -0500 Subject: [texworks] Updates page has gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4D0DA7.5080002@gmail.com> On 02/28/2012 03:52 AM, Ignasi wrote: > until yesterday I was following TeXworks evolution through > > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/updates/list > > But today this link shows "The page you asked for does not exist." Is an acceptable substitute? --Joel From st.loeffler at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 23:08:51 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:08:51 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Updates page has gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4D5073.8040700@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-02-28 09:52, Ignasi wrote: > Hi all, > > until yesterday I was following TeXworks evolution through > > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/updates/list > > But today this link shows "The page you asked for does not exist." > > Is it a temporary problem? I'm afraid it was removed by Google intentionally (see http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=24324). Maybe they will put it back after the wave of angry user comments... In the meantime, you could use the project feeds (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/feeds) if you have a program capable of displaying them (e.g., Firefox, AFAIK). HTH Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 23:11:02 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:11:02 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Disappearing lines problem Message-ID: <4F4D50F6.7030706@gmail.com> Hi all, I've made (yet) another attempt to resolve the disappearing lines problem in r957. Since I'm not able to reproduce the problem reliably on my machine, I would be very grateful if as many users as possible could test this (and hopefully confirm that it finally works ;)). Cheers, Stefan From esperanto at swing.be Wed Feb 29 15:39:34 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:39:34 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Disappearing lines problem In-Reply-To: <4F4D50F6.7030706@gmail.com> References: <4F4D50F6.7030706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F4E38A6.8030601@swing.be> Hi Stefan, Could you provide a protocol for testing? Which type of file, length,... For the moment I have limited access to internet (more or less once a day), so I'll test and reply as soon as possible. Thanks, Alain Le 28/02/2012 23:11, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > Hi all, > > I've made (yet) another attempt to resolve the disappearing lines > problem in r957. Since I'm not able to reproduce the problem reliably on > my machine, I would be very grateful if as many users as possible could > test this (and hopefully confirm that it finally works ;)). > > Cheers, > Stefan > > From st.loeffler at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 15:49:21 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:49:21 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Disappearing lines problem In-Reply-To: <4F4E38A6.8030601@swing.be> References: <4F4D50F6.7030706@gmail.com> <4F4E38A6.8030601@swing.be> Message-ID: <4F4E3AF1.8030101@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-02-29 15:39, Alain Delmotte wrote: > Could you provide a protocol for testing? > Which type of file, length,... If you mean an example .tex file: one is available (in a .zip) at http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=505. Other than that, we haven't been able to determine what really triggers the issue, unfortunately (length of document, length of individual lines, complexity of document, ...). It seems somewhat like a race condition (two parts of the program accessing the same data at (roughly) the same time, thereby interfering with one another), so it could very well depend on the computer, the operating system, and/or the current work load on the processor. So unfortunately there is no definite recipe to reproduce that bug (which is why we need as many eyes as possible watching out for the issue). It will be difficult to prove it's gone for sure, of course, but if many people (especially those who have encountered the issue before, but everyone else is welcome to join the watching out, of course) keep their eyes open and don't find the problem again over a period of - say - a couple of weeks, I guess we have reason to hope that the issue is indeed resolved :). > For the moment I have limited access to internet (more or less once a > day), so I'll test and reply as soon as possible. Thanks for your efforts. Cheers, Stefan From muw.requardt at googlemail.com Wed Feb 29 12:36:18 2012 From: muw.requardt at googlemail.com (Manfred Requardt) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:36:18 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Latex problem Message-ID: I have the following problem. The command mathcal works e.g. in the equation environment but not if I use it within $$ in text formulas. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From niverde at anche.no Wed Feb 29 13:52:47 2012 From: niverde at anche.no (niverde at anche.no) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:52:47 +0000 Subject: [texworks] Help me Message-ID: <4cd482c674fa7fe5c89cda4c2e2a0f18@anche.no> Help me! The command 'alt 123' do not produce '{' but 'i' in my TeXworks editor. I would like restabilish it.----- configuration info -----TeXworks version : 0.4.3r858 (official)Install location : C:/texlive/2011/tlpkg/texworks/texworks.exeLibrary path : C:/Users/zaza/.texlive2011/texmf-config/texworks\pdfTeX location : C:/texlive/2011/bin/win32/pdftex.exeOperating system : Windows 7, 64-bitQt4 version : 4.7.3 (build) / 4.7.3 (runtime)------------------------------ From st.loeffler at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 16:16:42 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIEzDtmZmbGVy?=) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:16:42 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Alt+123 doesn't produce '{' (was: Help me) In-Reply-To: <4cd482c674fa7fe5c89cda4c2e2a0f18@anche.no> References: <4cd482c674fa7fe5c89cda4c2e2a0f18@anche.no> Message-ID: <4F4E415A.7080705@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-02-29 13:52, niverde at anche.no wrote: > Help me! The command 'alt 123' do not produce '{' but 'i' in my > TeXworks editor. I would like restabilish it. It works as expected for me on Windows XP... Did you try other "alt" codes? Do they produce the expected characters? If not, is there a pattern to it? HTH Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 16:19:16 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:19:16 +0100 Subject: [texworks] \mathcal doesn't work in $$ formulas (was: Latex problem) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4E41F4.6060508@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-02-29 12:36, Manfred Requardt wrote: > I have the following problem. The command mathcal works e.g. in the > equation environment but not if I use it within $$ in text formulas. Could you please provide a minimal example? Regards, Stefan PS: This mailing list is intended primarily for discussing the TeXworks editor itself, not general LaTeX questions. For a mailing list dedicated to that, please see, e.g., the texhax mailing list (http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax). From lomov.vl at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 16:23:10 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 00:23:10 +0900 Subject: [texworks] Latex problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120229152310.GA862@smoon> Hello, ** Manfred Requardt [2012-02-29 12:36:18 +0100]: > I have the following problem. The command mathcal works e.g. in the > equation environment but not if I use it within $$ in text formulas. First of all, always provide minimal example which shows your problem, see here http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minxampl The second, this mailing list is for TeXworks ? TeX/LaTeX/ConTeXt front end, but not for they discussion, problem solving and etc. Use texhax mailing list, see here http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- HOW TO PROVE IT, PART 7 proof by forward reference: Reference is usually to a forthcoming paper of the author, which is often not as forthcoming as at first. proof by semantic shift: Some of the standard but inconvenient definitions are changed for the statement of the result. proof by appeal to intuition: Cloud-shaped drawings frequently help here. From george at lecompte.org Thu Mar 1 00:12:12 2012 From: george at lecompte.org (George LeCompte) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:12:12 -0800 Subject: [texworks] problem using supertabular Message-ID: Can't paste the problem result.here's my attempt to copy what I think is the significant messages. SyncTex warning" no cynchronization, problem with Try*Supertabular.syntex.gz(busy) . . . 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So then I think has niverde changed their windows control page code, (Edit/Preferences) TeXworks editing font, (Edit/Preferences) TeXworks editor code page, or something so that you actually do need to type Alt 123 to get a capital opening square bracket... { Have you tried to reassign something in another programme/application that effects the whole operating system? Perhaps answered a question during an install of another application? Or was Alt 123 just an example, and you can actually still just type a } on your key board when you want it? Paul On 1 March 2012 04:16, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-02-29 13:52, niverde at anche.no wrote: > > Help me! The command 'alt 123' do not produce '{' but 'i' in my > > TeXworks editor. I would like restabilish it. > > It works as expected for me on Windows XP... > > Did you try other "alt" codes? Do they produce the expected characters? > If not, is there a pattern to it? > > HTH > Stefan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 04:45:34 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:45:34 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Disappearing lines problem In-Reply-To: <4F4E3AF1.8030101@gmail.com> References: <4F4D50F6.7030706@gmail.com> <4F4E38A6.8030601@swing.be> <4F4E3AF1.8030101@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I am about to download the newer TeXworks, but I can say I have not encountered the problem for quite a while, even while in documents where it has happened a number of times in the past. I agree that the history of this thing suggests a downstream or multi-cause/conflict situation as Stefan has outlined. Previous reading around suggests it may also have to do with Qt's internal messaging for UI widgets, and things queuing, demanding attention, which puts something in the editor widget refresh out of sync, which is very difficult for TeXworks project to adjust itself around. It means that one (set of) cause(s) may be fixed, but other combinations of editor usage may wait in ambush, or updates by Qt, can lead us through the whole scenario again. > and don't find the problem again over a period of - say > - a couple of weeks, I guess we have reason to hope that the issue is > indeed resolved :) I would like to hope so! ... Paul On 1 March 2012 03:49, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-02-29 15:39, Alain Delmotte wrote: > > Could you provide a protocol for testing? > > Which type of file, length,... > > If you mean an example .tex file: one is available (in a .zip) at > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=505. > Other than that, we haven't been able to determine what really triggers > the issue, unfortunately (length of document, length of individual > lines, complexity of document, ...). It seems somewhat like a race > condition (two parts of the program accessing the same data at (roughly) > the same time, thereby interfering with one another), so it could very > well depend on the computer, the operating system, and/or the current > work load on the processor. > > So unfortunately there is no definite recipe to reproduce that bug > (which is why we need as many eyes as possible watching out for the > issue). It will be difficult to prove it's gone for sure, of course, but > if many people (especially those who have encountered the issue before, > but everyone else is welcome to join the watching out, of course) keep > their eyes open and don't find the problem again over a period of - say > - a couple of weeks, I guess we have reason to hope that the issue is > indeed resolved :). > > > For the moment I have limited access to internet (more or less once a > > day), so I'll test and reply as soon as possible. > > Thanks for your efforts. > > Cheers, > Stefan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In fact, it is defined in supertabular.dtx (presumably for the sole case of producing the documentation) as: \newcommand{\tbsp}{\rule{0pt}{18pt}} If you add the above line to you document, it should work. HTH Stefan From esperanto at swing.be Thu Mar 1 14:57:50 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:57:50 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Disappearing lines problem In-Reply-To: <4F4E3AF1.8030101@gmail.com> References: <4F4D50F6.7030706@gmail.com> <4F4E38A6.8030601@swing.be> <4F4E3AF1.8030101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F4F805E.3020100@swing.be> Le 29/02/2012 15:49, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > Hi, > > On 2012-02-29 15:39, Alain Delmotte wrote: >> Could you provide a protocol for testing? >> Which type of file, length,... > > If you mean an example .tex file: one is available (in a .zip) at > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=505. I downloaded the .zip file, it only contains a partial text. But I didn't have the problem. I could not find the file for which I had the problem; but as Norman said, I didn't have the problem 1) often before (in fact only once and 2) recently. Regards, Alain From esperanto at swing.be Thu Mar 1 15:03:32 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:03:32 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Alt+123 doesn't produce '{' In-Reply-To: References: <4cd482c674fa7fe5c89cda4c2e2a0f18@anche.no> <4F4E415A.7080705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F4F81B4.6030106@swing.be> Hi! Le 1/03/2012 4:31, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > > Hi, > > I am sitting here looking at my keyboard thinking there is a > lovely capital square bracket that makes a { for me ... so > why would someone want to make a { by typing Alt 0123 (note > the 0 would be needed for some codes to work - but not for a > { ). Norman, this is most probably a problem of not US/QWERTY keyboard. For me on a Belgian AZERTY keyboard it is very difficult to get ?, ?,... under TeXworks. If I want the { I have to use AltGr+? (that is the key with ?-9) I think this has already been noted in the problem list. Regards, Alain > > So then I think has niverde changed their windows control > page code, (Edit/Preferences) TeXworks editing > font, (Edit/Preferences) TeXworks editor code page, or > something so that you actually do need to type Alt 123 to > get a capital opening square bracket... { > > Have you tried to reassign something in another > programme/application that effects the whole operating > system? Perhaps answered a question during an install of > another application? > > Or was Alt 123 just an example, and you can actually still > just type a } on your key board when you want it? > > Paul > > > On 1 March 2012 04:16, Stefan L?ffler > wrote: > > Hi, > > On 2012-02-29 13:52, niverde at anche.no > wrote: > > Help me! The command 'alt 123' do not produce '{' > but 'i' in my > > TeXworks editor. I would like restabilish it. > > It works as expected for me on Windows XP... > > Did you try other "alt" codes? Do they produce the > expected characters? > If not, is there a pattern to it? > > HTH > Stefan > > From grivet at cnrs-orleans.fr Thu Mar 1 11:21:15 2012 From: grivet at cnrs-orleans.fr (grivet) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:21:15 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <4F4F4D9B.4090202@cnrs-orleans.fr> Hello, Several advertised functions seem to be missing or inoperative in my version of TeXworks: parenthesis highlighting sync between latex and dvi The dictionnary lacks many words; how can I insert a word from the current text? Am I missing something or is this behavior normal for the WinXP version ? Thanks in advance for any hint JP Grivet ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9) Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-texworks.exe Library path : C:/Documents and Settings/grivet/Local Settings/Application Data/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600) Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) ------------------------------ From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 00:52:59 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:52:59 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Alt+123 doesn't produce '{' In-Reply-To: <4F4F81B4.6030106@swing.be> References: <4cd482c674fa7fe5c89cda4c2e2a0f18@anche.no> <4F4E415A.7080705@gmail.com> <4F4F81B4.6030106@swing.be> Message-ID: Thanks Alain, Is there any chance that an application on a person's computer using such a key board would be likely to change the indirect coding (like Alt 123) as well? Paul On 2 March 2012 03:03, Alain Delmotte wrote: > Hi! > > Le 1/03/2012 4:31, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > >> >> Hi, >> >> I am sitting here looking at my keyboard thinking there is a >> lovely capital square bracket that makes a { for me ... so >> why would someone want to make a { by typing Alt 0123 (note >> the 0 would be needed for some codes to work - but not for a >> { ). >> > > Norman, this is most probably a problem of not US/QWERTY keyboard. > > For me on a Belgian AZERTY keyboard it is very difficult to get ?, ?,... > under TeXworks. > If I want the { I have to use AltGr+? (that is the key with ?-9) > > I think this has already been noted in the problem list. > > Regards, > > Alain > > >> So then I think has niverde changed their windows control >> page code, (Edit/Preferences) TeXworks editing >> font, (Edit/Preferences) TeXworks editor code page, or >> something so that you actually do need to type Alt 123 to >> get a capital opening square bracket... { >> >> Have you tried to reassign something in another >> programme/application that effects the whole operating >> system? Perhaps answered a question during an install of >> another application? >> >> Or was Alt 123 just an example, and you can actually still >> just type a } on your key board when you want it? >> >> Paul >> >> >> On 1 March 2012 04:16, Stefan L?ffler > **> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On 2012-02-29 13:52, niverde at anche.no >> wrote: >> > Help me! The command 'alt 123' do not produce '{' >> but 'i' in my >> > TeXworks editor. I would like restabilish it. >> >> It works as expected for me on Windows XP... >> >> Did you try other "alt" codes? Do they produce the >> expected characters? >> If not, is there a pattern to it? >> >> HTH >> Stefan >> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 01:06:19 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 13:06:19 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <4F4F4D9B.4090202@cnrs-orleans.fr> References: <4F4F4D9B.4090202@cnrs-orleans.fr> Message-ID: Hi JP Grivet, Great to hear that you have started using TeXworks. On 1 March 2012 23:21, grivet wrote: > Hello, > Several advertised functions seem to be missing or inoperative in my > version of TeXworks: > > parenthesis highlighting > Ok, position your cursor between the braces (){}[] of one kind or another and (i) Menu> Edit/ Balance Delimiters Or (ii)using the Crtl key tap the B key once sync between latex and dvi > > Ok, (i) Right Mouse button and read the menu in either Tex or preview Or (ii)holding the Crtl key down, click with the left mouse button in the text or preview window where you want to sync You will also find out many more essential and useful things, written up by Alain Delmotte, Stefan L?ffler, and others, by looking under: Menu> Help / A Short Manual for TeXworks The dictionary lacks many words; how can I insert a word from the current > text? > > There is a recent request towards helping obtain that functionality here: http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=563 > Am I missing something or is this behavior normal for the WinXP version ? > Thanks in advance for any hint > JP Grivet > HTH Paul > > ----- configuration info ----- > TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9) > Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-** > texworks.exe > Library path : C:/Documents and Settings/grivet/Local Settings/Application > Data/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ > pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe > Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack > 3 (build 2600) > Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) > ------------------------------ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can also change dictionaries - see in the Manual under 4.3 Spell-checking On 2 March 2012 13:06, Paul A Norman wrote: > Hi JP Grivet, > > Great to hear that you have started using TeXworks. > > On 1 March 2012 23:21, grivet wrote: > >> Hello, >> Several advertised functions seem to be missing or inoperative in my >> version of TeXworks: >> >> parenthesis highlighting >> > > Ok, position your cursor between the braces (){}[] of one kind or another > and > > (i) Menu> Edit/ Balance Delimiters > > Or > > (ii)using the Crtl key tap the B key once > > sync between latex and dvi >> >> > Ok, > > (i) Right Mouse button and read the menu in either Tex or preview > > Or > > (ii)holding the Crtl key down, click with the left mouse button in the > text or preview window where you want to sync > > You will also find out many more essential and useful things, written up > by Alain Delmotte, Stefan L?ffler, and others, by looking under: > > Menu> Help / A Short Manual for TeXworks > > The dictionary lacks many words; how can I insert a word from the current >> text? >> >> > There is a recent request towards helping obtain that functionality here: > > http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=563 > > >> Am I missing something or is this behavior normal for the WinXP version ? >> Thanks in advance for any hint >> JP Grivet >> > > HTH > Paul > >> >> ----- configuration info ----- >> TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9) >> Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-** >> texworks.exe >> Library path : C:/Documents and Settings/grivet/Local >> Settings/Application Data/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ >> pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe >> Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack >> 3 (build 2600) >> Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) >> ------------------------------ >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Stefan From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 11:17:04 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 23:17:04 +1300 Subject: [texworks] LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: <4F509C4D.9080301@gmail.com> References: <4F509C4D.9080301@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I have been happy to maintain what i can of the Script api, but sort of feel out on a limb with it all, with things like " introduces a new scripting function " and not ever being advised of these things. Often I have to trawl through the C++ code and the debugger to find things. So is there any one else willing to do it please who might get a better relationship with the main developers? Paul On 2 March 2012 23:09, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi all, > > based on Henrik's awesome work on the LaTeX log parser script, I've > tried to implement handling of long file names and file names with spaces. > > Testing (in particular on Windows and the Mac) would be very welcome. To > do that, you need Tw r961 or later (as that introduces a new scripting > function that), as well as the new LaTeX error script from > > https://github.com/stloeffler/TeXworks-scripts-1/raw/master/latexErrors/latexErrors.js > > If you encounter any problems, please save the console outpu t to a file > (copy and paste it to an editor) and email me. Also, information about > your OS and TeX-distro would be very helpful. > > Cheers, > Stefan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stefan.loeffler at tuwien.ac.at Fri Mar 2 10:19:12 2012 From: stefan.loeffler at tuwien.ac.at (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:19:12 +0100 Subject: [texworks] LaTeX log parser script Message-ID: <4F509090.6060504@tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, based on Henrik's awesome work on the LaTeX log parser script, I've tried to implement handling of long file names and file names with spaces. Testing (in particular on Windows and the Mac) would be very welcome. To do that, you need Tw r961 or later (as that introduces a new scripting function that), as well as the new LaTeX error script from https://github.com/stloeffler/TeXworks-scripts-1/raw/master/latexErrors/latexErrors.js If you encounter any problems, please save the console outpu t to a file (copy and paste it to an editor) and email me. Also, information about your OS and TeX-distro would be very helpful. Cheers, Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 01:50:35 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 13:50:35 +1300 Subject: [texworks] LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: <4F50B97D.3010901@gmail.com> References: <4F509C4D.9080301@gmail.com> <4F50B97D.3010901@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you Stefan, The function added to Scriting is in fact very important, and has long been needed. I also don't have much time. And as we both don't have much time and you don't have time even to keep the maintainer in the loop on Scripting function things, its better that someone with the time to trawl through messages, and commits, and C++ code, and spend hours with the Script debugger trying to spot new functions and properties and try to find things out that the C++ developers already know, do the job. It does to me however seem a waste of time to get things that way, when a courtesy email would sort things out very quickly efficiently and productively. And as you are indeed so busy and can not send such courtesy emails or discussion points to the person voluntarily maintaining the Scripting API, then it is better that some one who has the time to waste doing it the more difficult and harder way outlined above, take the matter on. All I need is a an http:// to redirect enquiries to for the Scripting API please. Paul On 3 March 2012 01:13, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-03-02 11:23, Paul A Norman wrote: > > I understand that to be a vote of no confidence. > > I hope you don't refer to my previous post, as I have very much > confidence in you and appreciate your work on the script API very much. > > I was under the impression that Henrik's code of the LaTeX log parser > script was the most up to date (IIRC, he also asked you to include a > link to it on your page), so after the numerous requests on the bug > tracker (and after discussing briefly with Henrik), I modified his > script to (hopefully) resolve some (if not all) of the problems with the > existing script. > > As far as the new script function is concerned: I committed it today in > the morning before leaving to work and had no time yet to send details > to you. However, it's not a particularly sophisticated function, and > most details can be found in the commit message of r961 > (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/source/detail?r=961). It's a function > (TW.fileExists(path)) that checks if a certain path exists, and returns > the status (SUCCESS, FAILURE, PERMISSION_DENIED) similar to the status > returned by other file-related functions (such as readFile). > But the previous post was in fact meant as a notification that I > introduced that new function (which, IIRC, was asked for/proposed a > while back, anyway). > > So, I have no intention of excluding you from the development process of > Tw, I just have quite little time these days. > > Regards, > Stefan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From esperanto at swing.be Sat Mar 3 09:27:49 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:27:49 +0100 Subject: [texworks] LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: <4F509C4D.9080301@gmail.com> References: <4F509C4D.9080301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F51D605.6060400@swing.be> Hi Stefan! I quickly tested the new TW and the new script. I introduced errors and I had no problem. Thanks! As for the demand of Paul about maintaining the script system, I am sorry; even if I have time, I do not have the slightest notion about programming C++ and other. I would prefer to see for the TW site at TUG as it was proposed sometimes ago. Thanks again (also to Paul and other contributors)! Regards, Alain Le 2/03/2012 11:09, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > Hi all, > > based on Henrik's awesome work on the LaTeX log parser script, I've > tried to implement handling of long file names and file names with spaces. > > Testing (in particular on Windows and the Mac) would be very welcome. To > do that, you need Tw r961 or later (as that introduces a new scripting > function that), as well as the new LaTeX error script from > https://github.com/stloeffler/TeXworks-scripts-1/raw/master/latexErrors/latexErrors.js > > If you encounter any problems, please save the console outpu t to a file > (copy and paste it to an editor) and email me. Also, information about > your OS and TeX-distro would be very helpful. > > Cheers, > Stefan > From esperanto at swing.be Sat Mar 3 09:34:09 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:34:09 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Alt+123 doesn't produce '{' In-Reply-To: References: <4cd482c674fa7fe5c89cda4c2e2a0f18@anche.no> <4F4E415A.7080705@gmail.com> <4F4F81B4.6030106@swing.be> Message-ID: <4F51D781.5010908@swing.be> Hummmm! You are right, no chance. But in fact it could be. At least for me when I use AltGR+key under TW I get nothing many times before to get the character. (example AltGr+? and E to get ?)0 but Alt+0123 gives {. So in fact I defined some TW completion shortcuts to get the characters. But for just { and }???!! Alain Le 2/03/2012 0:52, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > Thanks Alain, > > Is there any chance that an application on a person's > computer using such a key board would be likely to change > the indirect coding (like Alt 123) as well? > Paul > > On 2 March 2012 03:03, Alain Delmotte > wrote: > > Hi! > > Le 1/03/2012 4:31, Paul A Norman a ?crit : > > > Hi, > > I am sitting here looking at my keyboard thinking > there is a > lovely capital square bracket that makes a { for me > ... so > why would someone want to make a { by typing Alt > 0123 (note > the 0 would be needed for some codes to work - but > not for a > { ). > > > Norman, this is most probably a problem of not US/QWERTY > keyboard. > > For me on a Belgian AZERTY keyboard it is very difficult > to get ?, ?,... under TeXworks. > If I want the { I have to use AltGr+? (that is the key > with ?-9) > > I think this has already been noted in the problem list. > > Regards, > > Alain > > > So then I think has niverde changed their windows > control > page code, (Edit/Preferences) TeXworks editing > font, (Edit/Preferences) TeXworks editor code page, or > something so that you actually do need to type Alt > 123 to > get a capital opening square bracket... { > > Have you tried to reassign something in another > programme/application that effects the whole operating > system? Perhaps answered a question during an install of > another application? > > Or was Alt 123 just an example, and you can actually > still > just type a } on your key board when you want it? > > Paul > > > On 1 March 2012 04:16, Stefan L?ffler > > > > wrote: > > Hi, > > On 2012-02-29 13:52, niverde at anche.no > > > > wrote: > > Help me! The command 'alt 123' do not produce '{' > but 'i' in my > > TeXworks editor. I would like restabilish it. > > It works as expected for me on Windows XP... > > Did you try other "alt" codes? Do they produce the > expected characters? > If not, is there a pattern to it? > > HTH > Stefan > > > > > From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 13:31:15 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 01:31:15 +1300 Subject: [texworks] LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: <4F51D605.6060400@swing.be> References: <4F509C4D.9080301@gmail.com> <4F51D605.6060400@swing.be> Message-ID: Thank you Alain, yes I am not a C++ programmer either. Paul On 3 March 2012 21:27, Alain Delmotte wrote: > Hi Stefan! > > I quickly tested the new TW and the new script. > I introduced errors and I had no problem. > Thanks! > > As for the demand of Paul about maintaining the script system, I am sorry; > even if I have time, I do not have the slightest notion about programming > C++ and other. > > I would prefer to see for the TW site at TUG as it was proposed sometimes > ago. > > Thanks again (also to Paul and other contributors)! > Regards, > > Alain > > Le 2/03/2012 11:09, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > > Hi all, >> >> based on Henrik's awesome work on the LaTeX log parser script, I've >> tried to implement handling of long file names and file names with spaces. >> >> Testing (in particular on Windows and the Mac) would be very welcome. To >> do that, you need Tw r961 or later (as that introduces a new scripting >> function that), as well as the new LaTeX error script from >> https://github.com/stloeffler/**TeXworks-scripts-1/raw/master/** >> latexErrors/latexErrors.js >> >> If you encounter any problems, please save the console outpu t to a file >> (copy and paste it to an editor) and email me. Also, information about >> your OS and TeX-distro would be very helpful. >> >> Cheers, >> Stefan >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at lecompte.org Sun Mar 4 14:35:21 2012 From: george at lecompte.org (George LeCompte) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 05:35:21 -0800 Subject: [texworks] \input doesn't find file Message-ID: \input{AnotherFile} produces ! LaTeX Error: File `AnotherFile.tex' not found. Type X to quit or to proceed, or enter new name. (Default extension: tex) Enter file name: Where does TeXworks look for this file? I'm using TeXworks version 0.2.3(r.466) under Windows. -- Please respond to george at lecompte.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun Mar 4 14:39:58 2012 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 07:39:58 -0600 Subject: [texworks] \input doesn't find file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5BF2A2BF-C8DB-41C1-83E2-381812827088@wideopenwest.com> On Mar 4, 2012, at 7:35 AM, George LeCompte wrote: > \input{AnotherFile} > > produces > > ! LaTeX Error: File `AnotherFile.tex' not found. > > Type X to quit or to proceed, > > or enter new name. (Default extension: tex) > > Enter file name: > > > Where does TeXworks look for this file? > > > I'm using TeXworks version 0.2.3(r.466) > > under Windows. Howdy, TeXworks doesn't look for the file at all. It is your TeX distribution that is looking for the file. So the question becomes... where are you placing the file in relation to the file you are typesetting? Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From george at lecompte.org Sun Mar 4 15:45:14 2012 From: george at lecompte.org (George LeCompte) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 06:45:14 -0800 Subject: [texworks] \input doesn't find file In-Reply-To: <5BF2A2BF-C8DB-41C1-83E2-381812827088@wideopenwest.com> References: <5BF2A2BF-C8DB-41C1-83E2-381812827088@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: I don't understand Tex Distribution. the LaTex File which is the input to TeXworks and the file I want to input are in the same directory. george On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2012, at 7:35 AM, George LeCompte wrote: > > > \input{AnotherFile} > > > > produces > > > > ! LaTeX Error: File `AnotherFile.tex' not found. > > > > Type X to quit or to proceed, > > > > or enter new name. (Default extension: tex) > > > > Enter file name: > > > > > > Where does TeXworks look for this file? > > > > > > I'm using TeXworks version 0.2.3(r.466) > > > > under Windows. > > > Howdy, > > TeXworks doesn't look for the file at all. It is your TeX distribution > that is looking for the file. So the question becomes... where are you > placing the file in relation to the file you are typesetting? > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > > > > -- Please respond to george at lecompte.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk Sun Mar 4 15:53:33 2012 From: P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 14:53:33 +0000 Subject: [texworks] \input doesn't find file In-Reply-To: References: <5BF2A2BF-C8DB-41C1-83E2-381812827088@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <4F5381ED.3070106@Rhul.Ac.Uk> May I ask the exact name of "AnotherFile", including extension, George ? Philip Taylor -------- George LeCompte wrote: > I don't understand Tex Distribution. > the LaTex File which is the input to TeXworks and the file I want to > input are in the same directory. > george From st.loeffler at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 16:01:39 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 16:01:39 +0100 Subject: [texworks] LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: <4F51D605.6060400@swing.be> References: <4F509C4D.9080301@gmail.com> <4F51D605.6060400@swing.be> Message-ID: <4F5383D3.5090206@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-03 09:27, Alain Delmotte wrote: > I quickly tested the new TW and the new script. > I introduced errors and I had no problem. Thanks for testing. In the meantime, I corrected a problem with path handling (which doesn't show on Windows w/ MiKTeX, I think). The new version replaced the old one at https://raw.github.com/stloeffler/TeXworks-scripts-1/master/latexErrors/latexErrors.js. Cheers, Stefan From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 02:29:27 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:29:27 +1300 Subject: [texworks] TeXwork is Under-Resourced - Was: LaTeX log parser script Message-ID: Hi, This whole project is under-resourced, too much falls on Stefan and Charlie, and very few other volunteers. If you have a cart that needs three horses, and you only have one horse, there is no point in whipping the one remaining horse. People need to realise that this is a real problem - Stefan really does not have time to send courtesy emails to document maintaners, I do not have time to scour source code and other sources. I am counting my self out on all that follows here, so am not trying to achieve anything for myself ... The situation is that TeXworks has an absentee Owner/Landlord, while the roof is not complete, the all the walls are not up. (E.g. Spell checking development on the HunSpell engine is frozen as TeXworks was meant to be moving to another spelling engine. So User's have not even been able to add words to their spell dictionaries, choose alternatives without doing cartwheels and have no User lists available. - Just one example). Stefan long ago identified great improvements to TeXworks that are needed to keep it up with the play but he and Charlie have no time to implement such things. TeXworks is the flagship editor of TUG, now promoted widely, and in distributions of *TeX. That means that more responsibility for the needs of the project need to be borne by the relevant people, office bearers and their organisations. Too much is left randomly to the availability of TeXworks volunteers who often end up being treated like fools in the situation. Either the absentee copyright Owner consistently and actively participates, or releases the project, and in any event TUG places it on a proper FOSS governance model somewhat like Libre Office, or TUG needs to fork the project (as Open Source under the same license) and place it on a proper FOSS governance model somewhat like Libre Office. Whatever TUG, and whoever else, need to be approached to see that the venture is more properly resourced and have no doubt that includes $ It needs web hosting capabilities as perhaps provided by outfits like HostGator which would enable so much (including php, etc, and editable wikis, the list is long). The TeXworks.org domain name could be directed as such. It needs proper funding of the developers, (C++ Stefan and Charlie ..., on sometimes a per script basis for Script developers, and documenters for manuals, C++ api, Script api, (people doing things as Alain, Stefan and I did). TeXworks can look to the Blender FOSS project for examples of this. It needs a proper governance model as perhaps like Libre Office with a board that builds in a range of people that encompasses Major stake holders TUG, MiKTeX, TeXLive etc, C++ developers, documenters, script extenders, and the all important Users. TeXworks needs to agonisingly move into the 21st century of OpenSource models. Paul On 3 March 2012 13:50, Paul A Norman wrote: > Thank you Stefan, > > The function added to Scriting is in fact very important, and has long > been needed. > > I also don't have much time. > > And as we both don't have much time and you don't have time even to keep > the maintainer in the loop on Scripting function things, its better that > someone with the time to trawl through messages, and commits, and C++ code, > and spend hours with the Script debugger trying to spot new functions and > properties and try to find things out that the C++ developers already know, > do the job. > > It does to me however seem a waste of time to get things that way, when > a courtesy email would sort things out very quickly efficiently and > productively. > > And as you are indeed so busy and can not send such courtesy emails or > discussion points to the person voluntarily maintaining the Scripting API, > then it is better that some one who has the time to waste doing it the more > difficult and harder way outlined above, take the matter on. > > All I need is a an http:// to redirect enquiries to for the Scripting API > please. > > Paul > > > On 3 March 2012 01:13, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2012-03-02 11:23, Paul A Norman wrote: >> > I understand that to be a vote of no confidence. >> >> I hope you don't refer to my previous post, as I have very much >> confidence in you and appreciate your work on the script API very much. >> >> I was under the impression that Henrik's code of the LaTeX log parser >> script was the most up to date (IIRC, he also asked you to include a >> link to it on your page), so after the numerous requests on the bug >> tracker (and after discussing briefly with Henrik), I modified his >> script to (hopefully) resolve some (if not all) of the problems with the >> existing script. >> >> As far as the new script function is concerned: I committed it today in >> the morning before leaving to work and had no time yet to send details >> to you. However, it's not a particularly sophisticated function, and >> most details can be found in the commit message of r961 >> (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/source/detail?r=961). It's a function >> (TW.fileExists(path)) that checks if a certain path exists, and returns >> the status (SUCCESS, FAILURE, PERMISSION_DENIED) similar to the status >> returned by other file-related functions (such as readFile). >> But the previous post was in fact meant as a notification that I >> introduced that new function (which, IIRC, was asked for/proposed a >> while back, anyway). >> >> So, I have no intention of excluding you from the development process of >> Tw, I just have quite little time these days. >> >> Regards, >> Stefan >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 13:13:07 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:13:07 +0100 Subject: [texworks] TeXwork is Under-Resourced - Was: LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F54ADD3.1060606@gmail.com> Hi, thanks, Paul, for finding such clear words. On some points, I definitely agree, but others I feel I have to comment on and/or put into perspective. 1) TeXworks has always been and (as far as I can state that) will always be free and open source software (for the record: currently licensed under GPLv2+, source code available at http://code.google.com/p/texworks/) 2) TeXworks is (and always has been) a TUG project. The TUG has been supportive (as far as necessary), and I see no reason to abandon them. The project is, however, not tied into any other project too tightly, i.e., it is fairly independent as far as, e.g., development decisions go. Traditionally, there has been a fairly close collaboration with TeXLive (e.g., in terms of release planning), but ultimately TeXworks is an editor of its own right working with many TeX distros. 2) Jonathan Kew - the project owner - is indeed not currently participating in the daily coding and may be considered "absent". He has, however, expressed his wish to be kept in the loop for (and have a say in) the "big decisions". So he has not abandoned the project, but rather has retreated from the daily business. ATM, I don't see this causing any severe problems (e.g., inability to further develop the project). There have been such periods in the past, but we've moved beyond this. OTOH, I'm not saying that a more active owner couldn't have a positive influence on things - I'm just saying that as it is, it works. 3) Charlie and I have been mentioned. We both work on TeXworks in our free time - you could consider it a hobby. Of course, this impairs the progress of TeXworks (i.e., if we or someone else were to work full-time on it, progress would most likely be (much) faster). At least for me (I can't speak for Charlie), this is not an option right now, however, as I have a job at the university and am working on my PhD thesis. In that context, even if Jonathan were to relinquish ownership to one of us, nothing would change, really. The resources we need, therefore, are human resources; people who are willing to take this journey with us. Hiring people for that is an option, of course. Whether it's the best one I can't tell. I agree with Paul also on the notion that there are still a lot of things to be improved in TeXworks - a look at the Google Code issue list reveals over 200 issues (most of them, fortunately, not bug reports but feature requests). There also is a kind of "master plan" how to tackle them (the development targets are: for 0.6 a rewrite of the pdf previewer, for 0.8 an overhaul of the editor, and for 0.10 completing to migrate to a new, more modular framework, which 0.6 and 0.8 should prepare for). In view of this master plan, and because of few coders, we have to prioritize. As the spell checker was mentioned: there is not much point IMO to hack the one or other feature into it, thereby introducing a lot of additional complexity into the code, when it is scheduled for an overhaul in 0.8 (at which point (many of) the requested features could be implemented much more easily. At the same time, however, I want to encourage people to take a step back and see how far we have come already. Over the past 1.5 years or so, we've seen scripting come to life, have polished the user interface in several ways (e.g., displaying of language names instead of cryptic ISO codes), have implemented the "follow focus" feature to keep source and preview in sync at all times, and have added support for numerous file encodings, just to name a few. TeXworks has become a useful tool that is used by many people all over the world. It has shortcomings in many areas, and we are working to resolve them one at a time. This certainly progresses slower than one would want, but that's the way of things right now. Regarding the governance model, I won't commented too much on it. I only want to point out that it can bring a lot of overhead. I'm neither against it nor in favor of it, but all the projects mentioned by Paul (LibreOffice, Blender, etc.) have to coordinate a lot more people, and often have some dedicated board where people are physically in one place to hold meetings, etc. TeXworks currently doesn't have that (and instating such a board will be difficult with the people currently involved). So, all in all, I absolutely share Paul's concern about the progress of the development of TeXworks, and I agree that more resources are (always) welcome. I have neither the wish nor the authority to fundamentally change how TeXworks is developed, however, and only wanted to express my view on some of the issues raised. Regards, Stefan From grivet at cnrs-orleans.fr Mon Mar 5 17:43:32 2012 From: grivet at cnrs-orleans.fr (grivet) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 17:43:32 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: References: <4F4F4D9B.4090202@cnrs-orleans.fr> Message-ID: <4F54ED34.8070005@cnrs-orleans.fr> Hello, Thank you for your quick answer. I have more questions. > sync between latex and dvi > > > > Ok, > > (i) Right Mouse button and read the menu in either Tex or preview > > Or > > (ii)holding the Crtl key down, click with the left mouse button in the > text or preview window where you want to sync Doesn't work for me; I use Miktek and Yap. Clicking in the preview window yields the message: "source file could not be opened, because the page contains no source links". As labels for formulas and figures, I use abbreviations that the spell-checker considers as spelling errors. 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URL: From j.fine at open.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 17:34:46 2012 From: j.fine at open.ac.uk (J.Fine) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:34:46 +0000 Subject: [texworks] [tug-board] TeXwork is Under-Resourced - Was: LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: <4F54ADD3.1060606@gmail.com> References: <4F54ADD3.1060606@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1AB2D55988D3F6469FAEDA8A8413BF2C0D9A3138C4@KIELDERCMS1.open.ac.uk> Hi I'm a TUG Board member and past Chair of UK TUG (who provided financial support to TeXworks, in the form of paying for a computer for Jonathan Kew to develop on). Speaking for myself (and not for the board) I'd like to see more of TUG's income going to projects such as this one, and less on administration and other overheads (roughly 60% of our income goes on payroll, 22% on production of TUGBoat, 12% on office overhead, which leaves about 6% for other things, such as TeX Live and TeX works). With best regards Jonathan -- The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302). From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 00:37:20 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:37:20 +1300 Subject: [texworks] [tug-board] TeXwork is Under-Resourced - Was: LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: <1AB2D55988D3F6469FAEDA8A8413BF2C0D9A3138C4@KIELDERCMS1.open.ac.uk> References: <4F54ADD3.1060606@gmail.com> <1AB2D55988D3F6469FAEDA8A8413BF2C0D9A3138C4@KIELDERCMS1.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thank you Jonathan, It is encouraging to see what UK TUG did with the donation of the laptop to the original copyright Owner for the development of TeXworks - that is the real stuff. You have put money where policy should be leading. You have opened up the issue that good volunteers like Stefan and others are not aware of - this had to come out from the "inside", and it is extremely important that you have done so. People need to know, or remember, that that TeXworks is a TUG project, not just some privately set up Google Code effort. If my previous posting is re read, it may be seen that I am not talking about TeXworks being cut loose from TUG but for TUG to take responsibility for resourcing it and provide a goverance model that reflects the things that FOSS has learnt. And if things have to be forked (as I wrote, by TUG) to achieve that, then let it be so TeXworks is not just another Open Source project out there in the internet ether, it is a TUG responsibility, it is relied on now all over the world as a natural and inherent part of major TeX* distributions -- this must be recognised and proper thought put in. TeXworks must grow from it origins to be grafted onto a proper governance and resource model. Its time for good resourcing to come through to these projects so that the efforts of incredibly gifted developer people like Stefan and Charlie and others, and documenters like Alain and so on, are enhanced, and people don't end up unnecessarily stretched, and effectively being slave labour when there is real money in the pot to use. If funding were there for the Stefan L?fflers and others to co-ordinate efforts of other C++ and Scripters using the Blender FOSS model of operations - virtually contracting out certain tasks as projects to be done to specification, this would be a step forward. Properly structured, this would leave people like Stefan and Charlie, (And Jonathan Kew when he has time) to in a coordinated way (from within a decision making process that does not just involve application/script developers) trail blaze new developments which they have shown interest in, while being able to coordinate the necessary ongoing ground work and maintaining of code. Remember that TeXworks is a TUG project, not just some privately set up Google Code effort ? but it in a sense it has a wider catchment and needs a governance model to operate by, which reflects the ongoing responsibilities that the project has to a growing set of stakeholders. Perhaps a scaled down Libre Office FOSS style? This will facilitate coordination between large end-users distributors that will make development of things like, intelligent updating, possible. And establish portfolios of responsibility so that there are key identifiable people handling necessary areas and Stefan is not left with primary responsibility for everything right down to the operational end User's manual. This present approach is *not sustainable* (I am speaking form hard experience here). (I am now about to deliberately try and keep personalities out of this, as it is policy that must be looked at.) For example, the Owner was intending to do the Scripting API, got sidetracked, after a great many months I and others actually functionally needed it to be able to make things happen that were essential to some projects. I am not a C++ programmer (but have developed in one other advanced programming environment that Qt drew heavily upon in its inception) so I wrote to the Owner offering to try and do it as no one else was stepping up. I never even heard back from the project Owner, so we did the Scripting Api to meet our own needs and made it available to the general *TeX commuity as a courtesy, It has never been project 'official'. http://twscript.paulanorman.com It turned out that the Owner had been very busy in their personal life. I know that others experienced problems when this was happening as well. This is what has to be replaced with a real governance model, so that things do not hang up on one person ever again. And if things have to be forked (as I suggest by TUG) to achieve that, then let it be so Present governance might be described as essentially a random feudal style set-up. If my previous posting is re read it may be seen that I am not talking about TeXworks being cut loose from TUG but for TUG to take responsibility for resourcing it and provide a goverance model that reflects the things that FOSS has learnt, and bring the project into the 21st century in its operations and ability to coordinate with identifiable stakeholders (including the Users). The future of TeXworks is just going to be a randomly developed enterprise, with poor results like incomplete spell checking in the 21st century in a publishing tool - for goodness sakes!) unless courage is taken to look ahead and see what needs to be done to make it a growing and sustainable venture. Jonathan Kew wonderfully launched the project. With Karl Berries encouragement, Stefan L?ffler fantastically rescued it when it was virtually abandoned and about to founder (in fact was virtually dead in the water), this is due highly to Stefan's professionalism and an unacknowledged deep debt of gratitude is due to him by TUG (perhaps give him a lap top?), and now Charlie has put great effort in. Now the future needs to be better planned so that there is a sensible, coordinated, resourced, and purposeful future! TeXworks is not just another Open Source project out there in the internet ether, it is a TUG responsibility, it is relied on now all over the world as a natural and inherent part of major TeX* distributions -- this must be recognised and proper thought put in. TeXworks must grow from it origins to be grafted onto a proper governance and resource model. Paul On 6 March 2012 05:34, J.Fine wrote: > Hi > > I'm a TUG Board member and past Chair of UK TUG (who provided financial > support to TeXworks, in the form of paying for a computer for Jonathan Kew > to develop on). > > Speaking for myself (and not for the board) I'd like to see more of TUG's > income going to projects such as this one, and less on administration and > other overheads (roughly 60% of our income goes on payroll, 22% on > production of TUGBoat, 12% on office overhead, which leaves about 6% for > other things, such as TeX Live and TeX works). > > With best regards > > > Jonathan > > -- > The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an > exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC > 038302). > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chuck at sharpsteen.net Tue Mar 6 06:20:42 2012 From: chuck at sharpsteen.net (Charlie Sharpsteen) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:20:42 -0800 Subject: [texworks] TeXwork is Under-Resourced - Was: LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The assessment that TeXworks development is not moving forward as rapidly as it could is spot-on. However, I don't know if a "governance model" is really at the top of our list of needs at the moment. That isn't to say that it wouldn't be beneficial to have dedicated administrative and financial resources to draw on, but I believe our current problem is a lack of manpower/womanpower, not a lack of organization. One needs only look at the issue tracker to see the evidence of this---there is a long list of tickets that are open requesting new features or bugfixes but there are no tickets that have attached patches that fix bugs or implement features. We have a lot of users, but few developers. Switching to best governance model in the open source world won't make much difference unless there are developers around to be organized and motivated by it. -Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.a.norman at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 10:34:18 2012 From: paul.a.norman at gmail.com (Paul A Norman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 22:34:18 +1300 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <4F54ED34.8070005@cnrs-orleans.fr> References: <4F4F4D9B.4090202@cnrs-orleans.fr> <4F54ED34.8070005@cnrs-orleans.fr> Message-ID: On 6 March 2012 05:43, grivet wrote: > Hello, > Thank you for your quick answer. I have more questions. > > sync between latex and dvi > > >> > Ok, > > (i) Right Mouse button and read the menu in either Tex or preview > > Or > > (ii)holding the Crtl key down, click with the left mouse button in the > text or preview window where you want to sync > > Doesn't work for me; I use Miktek and Yap. Clicking in the preview window > yields the message: "source file could not be opened, because the page > contains no source links". > > Sorry Grivet, I have no experience working with .dvi like this in TeXworks, my workflow is (pdf|Xe|lua)LaTeX and uses the TeXworks previewer, not Yap. I do see in the Yap programme that there is under Menu> View /options / Inverse DVI search and you can add a New programme. However you might like to have a look at the TeXworks archive or previous messages first maybe this one would help? I do not know ... http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/texworks/2011q2/004099.html Or may be someone else may be able to jump in perhaps? > As labels for formulas and figures, I use abbreviations that the > spell-checker considers as spelling errors. Is it possible to prevent the > spell-checker from "looking inside" blocks starting with \ref or \label ? > Yes have a look at the TeXworks Manual under? Apendix A - Customizing TeXworks : A.1 Syntax highlighting There it will tell you how to edit your syntax-patterns.txt file. You may be able to use the N option in the spelling position to achieve what you want. I have one with Y for spell checking to be on, under my Latex Section, you'll need to nominate another colour, I do not know whether there is such a thing as 'default'/'current' colour setting. [LaTeX] gray Y \\footnote\{.+\} Regular expressions are not my strength, but may be you could have... black N \\((label)|(ref))\{.+\} Paul > TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9) >> Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX >> 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-texworks.exe >> Library path : C:/Documents and Settings/grivet/Local >> Settings/Application Data/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ >> pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe >> Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack >> 3 (build 2600) >> Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) >> ------------------------------ >> >> ----- configuration info ----- > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From st.loeffler at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 10:48:02 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?windows-1252?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:48:02 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: References: <4F4F4D9B.4090202@cnrs-orleans.fr> <4F54ED34.8070005@cnrs-orleans.fr> Message-ID: <4F55DD52.10501@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-06 10:34, Paul A Norman wrote: > On 6 March 2012 05:43, grivet > wrote: > > Hello, > Thank you for your quick answer. I have more questions. >> sync between latex and dvi >> >> >> >> Ok, >> >> (i) Right Mouse button and read the menu in either Tex or preview >> >> Or >> >> (ii)holding the Crtl key down, click with the left mouse button >> in the text or preview window where you want to sync > Doesn't work for me; I use Miktek and Yap. Clicking in the preview > window yields the message: "source file could not be opened, > because the page contains no source links". > Just a brief answer: TeXworks is built for the pdf workflow (as Paul pointed out). Synchronizing with dvi is not supported (out of the box). Going the .tex > .dvi route is not possible at the moment as TeXworks doesn't currently support external viewers for synchronization. Going the other way, i.e., .dvi > .tex, should work, but requires (a) the dvi to be processed in a special way (I'm no expert here, either, but if Yap tells you there are no source links, then I would suspect the dvi does not contain the data necessary for synchronization) (b) Yap to be configured to talk to TeXworks (`TeXworks.exe -p file.tex` should work). > As labels for formulas and figures, I use abbreviations that the > spell-checker considers as spelling errors. Is it possible to > prevent the spell-checker from "looking inside" blocks starting > with \ref or \label ? > > > Yes have a look at the TeXworks Manual under? > > Apendix A - Customizing TeXworks : A.1 Syntax highlighting > > There it will tell you how to edit your syntax-patterns.txt file. > > You may be able to use the N option in the spelling position to > achieve what you want. > > I have one with Y for spell checking to be on, under my Latex Section, > you'll need to nominate another colour, I do not know whether there is > such a thing as 'default'/'current' colour setting. You can also use the same color if you don't want to change the visual appearance. Colors don't need to be mutually exclusive. The "default" color is "normal text on normal background" (usually black on white, but this may depend on your system palette, stylesheets, etc.). > > Regular expressions are not my strength, but may be you could have... > > black N \\((label)|(ref))\{.+\} At a quick glance, this looks good. HTH Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jfkthame at googlemail.com Tue Mar 6 10:55:22 2012 From: jfkthame at googlemail.com (Jonathan Kew) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:55:22 +0000 Subject: [texworks] [tug-board] TeXwork is Under-Resourced - Was: LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0181AB7A-676C-4774-8DA2-3DFB46AA321E@gmail.com> Paul, I'm sorry to have to write this, as your intentions are no doubt good and laudable, but .... I think you are out of line. Seriously. Sure, texworks development is nowhere near as rapid or thorough as we'd all wish, but I think your complaints and criticisms are misplaced and unjustified. My "absenteeism", while it means I'm not contributing fresh code at this point, is not (as far as I'm aware) hampering those - Stefan, Charlie - who are currently working on development. If they're being blocked somehow by the fact that I'm listed as the project "owner", I hope they'll approach me about the issues and we can resolve them. Your recent rants - and your apparent offence at not receiving a personal email when a feature was added - are inappropriate and unhelpful; Stefan, in particular, does not deserve to be faced with all this when he's been doing such a great and dedicated job as the primary developer for a long time now. Aside from that, you can throw all the "governance" in the world at a project, but that's not going to get any code written. Unless someone with far deeper pockets than TUG decides to take on sponsorship of the project and finance a full-time development team - in which case yes, some kind of management structure would also be needed - the main constraint will remain the availability of "spare" time for the few programmers actually capable, interested and motivated to write code. Back when I was self-employed, it was possible for me - thanks to TUG's support, and UK-TUG's assistance with equipment - to devote substantial chunks of time to the initial creation of TW, and this got the project off the ground quite rapidly. But AFAIK, none of us are currently in a position to do that, and I don't believe TUG is in a position to hire full-time, long-term software development staff to take it on. So it evolves more slowly, as and when the contributors are able. Smothering them with governance models is not going to help; if anything, it'll suffocate whatever life the project has. Regards, Jonathan On 5 Mar 2012, at 01:29, Paul A Norman wrote: > Hi, > > This whole project is under-resourced, too much falls on Stefan and Charlie, and very few other volunteers. > > If you have a cart that needs three horses, and you only have one horse, there is no point in whipping the one remaining horse. > > People need to realise that this is a real problem - Stefan really does not have time to send courtesy emails to document maintaners, I do not have time to scour source code and other sources. > > I am counting my self out on all that follows here, so am not trying to achieve anything for myself ... > > The situation is that TeXworks has an absentee Owner/Landlord, while the roof is not complete, the all the walls are not up. (E.g. Spell checking development on the HunSpell engine is frozen as TeXworks was meant to be moving to another spelling engine. So User's have not even been able to add words to their spell dictionaries, choose alternatives without doing cartwheels and have no User lists available. - Just one example). Stefan long ago identified great improvements to TeXworks that are needed to keep it up with the play but he and Charlie have no time to implement such things. > > TeXworks is the flagship editor of TUG, now promoted widely, and in distributions of *TeX. > > That means that more responsibility for the needs of the project need to be borne by the relevant people, office bearers and their organisations. Too much is left randomly to the availability of TeXworks volunteers who often end up being treated like fools in the situation. > > Either the absentee copyright Owner consistently and actively participates, or releases the project, and in any event TUG places it on a proper FOSS governance model somewhat like Libre Office, or TUG needs to fork the project (as Open Source under the same license) and place it on a proper FOSS governance model somewhat like Libre Office. > > Whatever TUG, and whoever else, need to be approached to see that the venture is more properly resourced and have no doubt that includes $ > > It needs web hosting capabilities as perhaps provided by outfits like HostGator which would enable so much (including php, etc, and editable wikis, the list is long). The TeXworks.org domain name could be directed as such. > > It needs proper funding of the developers, (C++ Stefan and Charlie ..., on sometimes a per script basis for Script developers, and documenters for manuals, C++ api, Script api, (people doing things as Alain, Stefan and I did). TeXworks can look to the Blender FOSS project for examples of this. > > It needs a proper governance model as perhaps like Libre Office with a board that builds in a range of people that encompasses Major stake holders TUG, MiKTeX, TeXLive etc, C++ developers, documenters, script extenders, and the all important Users. > > TeXworks needs to agonisingly move into the 21st century of OpenSource models. > > Paul > > On 3 March 2012 13:50, Paul A Norman wrote: > Thank you Stefan, > > The function added to Scriting is in fact very important, and has long been needed. > > I also don't have much time. > > And as we both don't have much time and you don't have time even to keep the maintainer in the loop on Scripting function things, its better that someone with the time to trawl through messages, and commits, and C++ code, and spend hours with the Script debugger trying to spot new functions and properties and try to find things out that the C++ developers already know, do the job. > > It does to me however seem a waste of time to get things that way, when a courtesy email would sort things out very quickly efficiently and productively. > > And as you are indeed so busy and can not send such courtesy emails or discussion points to the person voluntarily maintaining the Scripting API, then it is better that some one who has the time to waste doing it the more difficult and harder way outlined above, take the matter on. > > All I need is a an http:// to redirect enquiries to for the Scripting API please. > > Paul > > > On 3 March 2012 01:13, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-03-02 11:23, Paul A Norman wrote: > > I understand that to be a vote of no confidence. > > I hope you don't refer to my previous post, as I have very much > confidence in you and appreciate your work on the script API very much. > > I was under the impression that Henrik's code of the LaTeX log parser > script was the most up to date (IIRC, he also asked you to include a > link to it on your page), so after the numerous requests on the bug > tracker (and after discussing briefly with Henrik), I modified his > script to (hopefully) resolve some (if not all) of the problems with the > existing script. > > As far as the new script function is concerned: I committed it today in > the morning before leaving to work and had no time yet to send details > to you. However, it's not a particularly sophisticated function, and > most details can be found in the commit message of r961 > (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/source/detail?r=961). It's a function > (TW.fileExists(path)) that checks if a certain path exists, and returns > the status (SUCCESS, FAILURE, PERMISSION_DENIED) similar to the status > returned by other file-related functions (such as readFile). > But the previous post was in fact meant as a notification that I > introduced that new function (which, IIRC, was asked for/proposed a > while back, anyway). > > So, I have no intention of excluding you from the development process of > Tw, I just have quite little time these days. > > Regards, > Stefan > > From P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 11:06:36 2012 From: P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:06:36 +0000 Subject: [texworks] [tug-board] TeXwork is Under-Resourced - Was: LaTeX log parser script In-Reply-To: <0181AB7A-676C-4774-8DA2-3DFB46AA321E@gmail.com> References: <0181AB7A-676C-4774-8DA2-3DFB46AA321E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F55E1AC.9080300@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Jonathan Kew wrote: > Smothering them with governance models is not going to help; if anything, it'll suffocate whatever life the project has. My own feelings exactly. Philip Taylor From stefan.loeffler at tuwien.ac.at Mon Mar 12 10:09:14 2012 From: stefan.loeffler at tuwien.ac.at (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:09:14 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help Message-ID: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, after Paul's recent mails regarding the future (and funding), I thought it would be a good idea to make the development process and envisaged future for TeXworks more transparent. To that end, I've created a roadmap on the wiki (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/Roadmap) that documents the targets plan for the next couple of stable releases. It does not give an exhaustive list and is only a tentative one, but it should hopefully give an impression what we are planning to do, and when you can expect to see it. Another point that was raised was the low number of (C++) programmers currently involved in the project. Funded or not (this is still debated), I think that in order to attract new coders, we should offer some well-defined projects so prospective programmers get an idea what is in the queue and get some pointers where to start. I've put up such a list of ideas on the wiki, too (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/IdeasAndProjects). So if you have some knowledge of/experience with C++ and want to get involved (or know someone else who might be interested), that is a good place to start. [1] Please spread the word. Cheers, Stefan [1] Another good place is the issue tracker, of course. Since we are in the middle of some rather large restructuring of the code base, however, working on the projects outlined in the wiki is probably the better alternative as they are designed to fit into the restructuring process (and will solve many outstanding issues on-the-fly). From klausner.lukas at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 11:32:55 2012 From: klausner.lukas at gmail.com (Lukas Klausner) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:32:55 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> Message-ID: Hi! I'm only a lurker, but I felt this might be the right time to say that I greatly appreciate the great work you're doing. :) Thanks! Regards, Lukas On 12 March 2012 10:09, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi all, > > after Paul's recent mails regarding the future (and funding), I thought > it would be a good idea to make the development process and envisaged > future for TeXworks more transparent. To that end, I've created a > roadmap on the wiki (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/Roadmap) > that documents the targets plan for the next couple of stable releases. > It does not give an exhaustive list and is only a tentative one, but it > should hopefully give an impression what we are planning to do, and when > you can expect to see it. > > Another point that was raised was the low number of (C++) programmers > currently involved in the project. Funded or not (this is still > debated), I think that in order to attract new coders, we should offer > some well-defined projects so prospective programmers get an idea what > is in the queue and get some pointers where to start. I've put up such a > list of ideas on the wiki, too > (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/IdeasAndProjects). So if you > have some knowledge of/experience with C++ and want to get involved (or > know someone else who might be interested), that is a good place to > start. [1] Please spread the word. > > Cheers, > Stefan > > > [1] Another good place is the issue tracker, of course. Since we are in > the middle of some rather large restructuring of the code base, however, > working on the projects outlined in the wiki is probably the better > alternative as they are designed to fit into the restructuring process > (and will solve many outstanding issues on-the-fly). From jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr Mon Mar 12 15:52:09 2012 From: jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9rome_Laurens?=) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:52:09 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> Message-ID: <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> Le 12 mars 2012 ? 10:09, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > Hi all, > > [...] > Another point that was raised was the low number of (C++) programmers > currently involved in the project. Funded or not (this is still > debated), I think that in order to attract new coders, we should offer > some well-defined projects so prospective programmers get an idea what > is in the queue and get some pointers where to start. I've put up such a > list of ideas on the wiki, too > (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/IdeasAndProjects). So if you > have some knowledge of/experience with C++ and want to get involved (or > know someone else who might be interested), that is a good place to > start. [1] Please spread the word. > > Cheers, > Stefan If you want to attract programmers, you may also want to offer a more attractive programming language. C++ is really hard. There are ruby/Qt and python/qt interfaces which are really appealing. JL From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Mon Mar 12 22:46:48 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:46:48 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> Message-ID: <20318.28360.914197.602399@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-03-12 at 15:52:09 +0100, J?rome Laurens wrote: > > Le 12 mars 2012 ? 10:09, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > > > Hi all, > > > > [...] Another point that was raised was the low number of (C++) > > programmers currently involved in the project. Funded or not > > (this is still debated), I think that in order to attract new > > coders, we should offer some well-defined projects so prospective > > programmers get an idea what is in the queue and get some > > pointers where to start. I've put up such a list of ideas on the > > wiki, too > > (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/IdeasAndProjects). So if > > you have some knowledge of/experience with C++ and want to get > > involved (or know someone else who might be interested), that is > > a good place to start. [1] Please spread the word. > > > > Cheers, > > Stefan > > If you want to attract programmers, you may also want to offer a > more attractive programming language. C++ is really hard. There > are ruby/Qt and python/qt interfaces which are really appealing. Do they provide more functionality than QtScript? I'm a bit concerned about adding more dependencies. It's a pity that TeX Live can't provide TW for all platforms due to the unavoidable dependencies. But I agree with you. If more stuff could be done using a scripting language, it will become more attractive for programmers who are not so familiar with the internals. I'm convinced that TeX is still so successful because most of its functionality is provided by external scripts. Emacs is quite similar: a small core providing a scripting language. Even the pull-down menus are not hardcoded and you can walk through them with car and cdr. And what TeX and Emacs have in common is the enormous amount of contributors. I also think that Stefan's IdeasAndProjects page mentioned above is a good idea. For those C++ programmers who want to contribute it's certainly helpful because it splits up the whole thing into smaller projects. It lowers the barrier... Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kfrank29.c at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 23:02:39 2012 From: kfrank29.c at gmail.com (K. Frank) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:02:39 -0400 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> Message-ID: Hello TexWorks and Friends! On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM, J?rome Laurens wrote: > > Le 12 mars 2012 ? 10:09, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > >> Hi all, >> >> [...] >> Another point that was raised was the low number of (C++) programmers >> currently involved in the project. >> ... >> So if you >> have some knowledge of/experience with C++ and want to get involved... >> ... >> Cheers, >> Stefan > > If you want to attract programmers, you may also want to offer a more attractive programming language. > C++ is really hard. I would beg to disagree. If you do hard things (some programming is inherently hard) with C++, C++ can be hard. If you're doing easy things, and make a point of not wandering into the more obscure corners of the language (Gee, I think I'll unroll that loop with template meta-programming! Sounds like fun!), C++ really isn't very hard. For core infrastructure where the design and logic legitimately become complicated, and/or where efficiency matters, C++ offers many benefits. (Consider trying to rewrite something like Qt in ruby or python.) > There are ruby/Qt and python/qt interfaces which are really appealing. Offering support for a scripting language for relatively simple extensible functionality that naturally fits a scripting programming style is a great idea. However, I've never liked the "dependency bloat" that comes along with using multiple (semi-)general-purpose programming languages to build the core infrastructure. > JL Happy Hacking! K Frank From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Tue Mar 13 00:38:40 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:38:40 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> Message-ID: <20318.35072.582397.620635@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-03-12 at 18:02:39 -0400, K. Frank wrote: > Hello TexWorks and Friends! > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM, J?rome Laurens > wrote: > > > > Le 12 mars 2012 ? 10:09, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> [...] > >> Another point that was raised was the low number of (C++) programmers > >> currently involved in the project. > >> ... > >> So if you > >> have some knowledge of/experience with C++ and want to get involved... > >> ... > >> Cheers, > >> Stefan > > > > If you want to attract programmers, you may also want to offer a > > more attractive programming language. C++ is really hard. > > I would beg to disagree. > > If you do hard things (some programming is inherently hard) with > C++, C++ can be hard. If you're doing easy things, and make a > point of not wandering into the more obscure corners of the language > (Gee, I think I'll unroll that loop with template meta-programming! > Sounds like fun!), C++ really isn't very hard. > > For core infrastructure where the design and logic legitimately > become complicated, and/or where efficiency matters, C++ offers > many benefits. (Consider trying to rewrite something like Qt in > ruby or python.) > > > There are ruby/Qt and python/qt interfaces which are really > > appealing. > > Offering support for a scripting language for relatively simple > extensible functionality that naturally fits a scripting > programming style is a great idea. However, I've never liked the > "dependency bloat" that comes along with using multiple > (semi-)general-purpose programming languages to build the core > infrastructure. One very important benefit of scripting languages is that it's not necessary to compile the program on each system whenever a new feature is added. Other benefits of scripting languages are that associative arrays and regular expressions are supported natively, you don't have to care about memory management, and so on. Though you can do everything with C++ what you can do with scripting languages, I'm convinced most people prefer scripting languages because of the built-in features mentioned above. You said: > For core infrastructure where the design and logic legitimately > become complicated, and/or where efficiency matters, C++ offers > many benefits. Yes, time critical things should be written in C/C++ but I regard a scripting language more or less as a user interface. Let's take PostScript as an example. The PostScript programming language provides a very convenient way to tell your machine to draw a circle on a sheet of paper. It's efficient because the interpreter invokes a function written in C, which actually does the hard work. It's much easier to draw a circle in PostScript rather than writing a C program. I would never attempt to write a C program in order to draw a circle whenever I could do the same with a PostScript file consisting of less then hundred bytes. You can't deny that scripting languages have a lot of advantages. > (Consider trying to rewrite something like Qt in ruby or python.) That would certainly be easier, but I agree with you that low-level time-critical stuff should be written in a low-level (i.e. compiled) language. My preference: A small core written in C/C++ and an interface to a scripting language. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From esperanto at swing.be Tue Mar 13 16:14:48 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:14:48 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> Message-ID: <4F5F6468.2060108@swing.be> Hi! One idea I have for a long time is to have the poossibility to link keyboard short cuts to each action in TW; but to do this with an external list of short cuts and function's name. This would allow the user to define his own short cuts. Most of the users wouldn't modify the default list, however. One can already do this, partly, with actionSide_by_Side = Ctrl+- in shortcuts.ini But as Lukas Klausner did write, many thanks for this program. Regards, Alain Le 12/03/2012 10:09, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > Hi all, > > after Paul's recent mails regarding the future (and funding), I thought > it would be a good idea to make the development process and envisaged > future for TeXworks more transparent. To that end, I've created a > roadmap on the wiki (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/Roadmap) > that documents the targets plan for the next couple of stable releases. > It does not give an exhaustive list and is only a tentative one, but it > should hopefully give an impression what we are planning to do, and when > you can expect to see it. > > Another point that was raised was the low number of (C++) programmers > currently involved in the project. Funded or not (this is still > debated), I think that in order to attract new coders, we should offer > some well-defined projects so prospective programmers get an idea what > is in the queue and get some pointers where to start. I've put up such a > list of ideas on the wiki, too > (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/IdeasAndProjects). So if you > have some knowledge of/experience with C++ and want to get involved (or > know someone else who might be interested), that is a good place to > start. [1] Please spread the word. > > Cheers, > Stefan > > > [1] Another good place is the issue tracker, of course. Since we are in > the middle of some rather large restructuring of the code base, however, > working on the projects outlined in the wiki is probably the better > alternative as they are designed to fit into the restructuring process > (and will solve many outstanding issues on-the-fly). > From vukoman.lekovic at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 22:57:56 2012 From: vukoman.lekovic at gmail.com (vukoman lekovic) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:57:56 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <4f5e716a.ce4ab40a.2e91.6390@mx.google.com> ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.0r759 (MiKTeX 2.9) Install location : C:/Program Files (x86)/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/miktex-texworks.exe Library path : C:/Users/Komp/AppData/Local/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files (x86)/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition, 64-bit (build 7600) Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) ------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From st.loeffler at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:07:57 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:07:57 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> Message-ID: <4F5F9B0D.20400@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-12 15:52, J?rome Laurens wrote: > If you want to attract programmers, you may also want to offer a more > attractive programming language. C++ is really hard. There are ruby/Qt > and python/qt interfaces which are really appealing. That is a valid point, of course. However, at the moment TeXworks is written (almost) entirely in C++. There is the scripting feature, but this is currently designed primarily for simple, repetitive tasks (though it has been shown to be usable far beyond that in some areas), but it's not yet fully integrated (in the sense that it could replace any part of the code). Some improvements to this situation are planned (see the wiki page), but for the time being we mainly need C++ coders to make that happen. Cheers, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:10:14 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:10:14 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <20318.35072.582397.620635@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> <768224CC-E785-4CF1-B74C-D3C55E899DE6@u-bourgogne.fr> <20318.35072.582397.620635@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <4F5F9B96.8000007@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-13 00:38, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > My preference: A small core written in C/C++ and an interface to a > scripting language. This is what TeXworks started out as, and what we are aiming for. Right now, many feature have grown on the original core, so as you can see from the IdeasAndProjects wiki page, many (if not all) of them revolve about restructuring the code to a proper modular structure with well-defined interfaces. Regards, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:13:09 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:13:09 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <4F5F6468.2060108@swing.be> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> <4F5F6468.2060108@swing.be> Message-ID: <4F5F9C45.5040504@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-13 16:14, Alain Delmotte wrote: > One idea I have for a long time is to have the poossibility to link > keyboard short cuts to each action in TW; but to do this with an > external list of short cuts and function's name. I'm not sure I know what you mean. As you wrote yourself, shortcuts can be assigned by editing a text file. Thus the possibility exists in principle. So, are you - suggesting an easier way to do that (e.g., using a dialog)? That's on the IdeasAndProjects list - suggesting to be able to assign shortcuts to things that they currently can't be assigned to (e.g., the invocation of SyncTeX)? This is not so straight-forward, but is in principle of the (long-term) wish-list. - something else? Regards, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:22:09 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIEzDtmZmbGVy?=) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:22:09 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Count Characters Script In-Reply-To: <8547BB8E2B8F4F93A17C500D109CF534@JohannesPC> References: <8547BB8E2B8F4F93A17C500D109CF534@JohannesPC> Message-ID: <4F5F9E61.5090001@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-13 18:22, heck.johannes at googlemail.com wrote: > I?ve just been looking for a possibility to count characters in latex > documents. I assume we're talking about some form of "relevant" words in the document (i.e., not the number of characters in an arbitrary text file which happens to have a .tex extension). This has been suggested a while ago (http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=157). The problem is that (La)TeX is a very versatile (programming) language [1], so doing this properly (without essentially forking most of the TeX interpreter code itself) is most likely impossible. Consider, e.g., the simple case \newcommand{\a}{Hallo Welt} \a How would a script know about this (or more complicated constructs), except when it properly parses the whole document. > I?ll need that for my next document, because it?s limited to 144k Chars. Characters of input, or of output? What about ligatures like "ffi" (1 char?, 3?, something else?)? > I?ve found ?TeXcount? and saw, that there?s also a perl script version > of it. > What about integrating that into TeXworks / adapting it to TWScripting? Sounds good, but I still have the same concerns mentioned above. It may be just what you personally need, though, and implementing it should not be too difficult (ranging from simply installing it as a typesetting tool as can be done for, e.g., latexmk, to writing a script to call TeXcount on the command line (as has been done for TeXShop (http://www2.hawaii.edu/~ramonf/TeXShop/index.html))). Regards, Stefan [1] Is TeX Turing-complete? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 20:29:19 2012 From: P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:29:19 +0000 Subject: [texworks] Count Characters Script In-Reply-To: <4F5F9E61.5090001@gmail.com> References: <8547BB8E2B8F4F93A17C500D109CF534@JohannesPC> <4F5F9E61.5090001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F5FA00F.3080908@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Stefan L?ffler wrote: > [1] Is TeX Turing-complete? I have always [1] believed so. Philip Taylor -------- [1] Where "always" is defined as "since 1986". From chuck at sharpsteen.net Tue Mar 13 21:52:04 2012 From: chuck at sharpsteen.net (Charlie Sharpsteen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:52:04 -0700 Subject: [texworks] Count Characters Script In-Reply-To: <4F5FA00F.3080908@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <8547BB8E2B8F4F93A17C500D109CF534@JohannesPC> <4F5F9E61.5090001@gmail.com> <4F5FA00F.3080908@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Stefan L?ffler wrote: > > [1] Is TeX Turing-complete? >> > > I have always [1] believed so. > Philip Taylor > -------- > [1] Where "always" is defined as "since 1986". > TeX is worse than Turing-complete---most boring old Turing-complete programming languages can be completely parsed and deconstructed by a "dumb" syntax highlighter implemented in a few lines of regular expressions. TeX is __context sensitive__ and therefore also requires a __Turing-complete parser__. This is why it is so difficult to deconstruct an arbitrary bit of TeX compared to most programming languages, like Python. Python can be parsed with a simple rule-based program while TeX has to be processed by a program that could also perform Lambda calculus[1], serve as a BASIC interpreter[2], or function as a control program for NASA's Mars rovers[3]. The parser for a language like Python cannot stray outside of the rules defined by the language grammer. The parser for a TeX document can typeset TeX, or be re-purposed do any other computable task if given the right input. See the following TeX StackExchange question for proof and demonstrations: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/4201/is-there-a-bnf-grammar-of-the-tex-language -Charlie [1]: http://ctan.org/pkg/lambda-lists [2]: http://ctan.org/pkg/basix [3]: http://sdh33b.blogspot.com/2008/07/icfp-contest-2008.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Wed Mar 14 01:35:20 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 01:35:20 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Count Characters Script In-Reply-To: References: <8547BB8E2B8F4F93A17C500D109CF534@JohannesPC> <4F5F9E61.5090001@gmail.com> <4F5FA00F.3080908@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <20319.59336.875861.563965@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-03-13 at 13:52:04 -0700, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > > > > > Stefan L?ffler wrote: > > > > [1] Is TeX Turing-complete? > >> > > > > I have always [1] believed so. > > Philip Taylor > > -------- > > [1] Where "always" is defined as "since 1986". > > > > > TeX is worse than Turing-complete---most boring old Turing-complete > programming languages can be completely parsed and deconstructed by > a "dumb" syntax highlighter implemented in a few lines of regular > expressions. TeX is __context sensitive__ and therefore also > requires a __Turing-complete parser__. > > This is why it is so difficult to deconstruct an arbitrary bit of > TeX compared to most programming languages, like Python. Python can > be parsed with a simple rule-based program while TeX has to be > processed by a program that could also perform Lambda calculus[1], > serve as a BASIC interpreter[2], or function as a control program > for NASA's Mars rovers[3]. > > The parser for a language like Python cannot stray outside of the > rules defined by the language grammer. The parser for a TeX > document can typeset TeX, or be re-purposed do any other computable > task if given the right input. > > See the following TeX StackExchange question for proof and > demonstrations: > > > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/4201/is-there-a-bnf-grammar-of-the-tex-language > > -Charlie > > [1]: http://ctan.org/pkg/lambda-lists > [2]: http://ctan.org/pkg/basix > [3]: http://sdh33b.blogspot.com/2008/07/icfp-contest-2008.html On the other hand, you can't simply insert Python function calls into a text file without worrying about some concept of escape sequences. In XML/HTML angle brackets have a special meaning and you have to use special sequences of characters in order to typeset angle brackets literally. Such a file can be parsed easily with regular expressions, of course. But there is a significant difference between XML/HTML and TeX. While XML/HTML has to be parsed by an external program, TeX is its own interpreter built-in. This makes things more difficult, but it also makes it extremely flexible and powerful. If you are using LaTeX without mixing it up with plain TeX code, I suppose that you can write a parser which is solely based on regular expressions and an EBNF specification indeed. \catcode is not an official LaTeX command. Though the EBNF spec has to be extended whenever an external package is loaded, the same is true for XML. As far as Lambda calculus is concerned, IMO it's not bad that it's supported somehow. I have the impression that Knuth was inspired by functional programming languages when he designed the scripting interface, and I'm convinced that this was not a mistake. Sure, it would be much easier to have a static document with static markup tags and a program written in a language like Python, which transforms the content to PostScript or PDF. This approach would be context insensitive, the grammar could be described in EBNF, and the lexical scanner could be set up by regular expressions. But all these things exist already and are freely available. We are all aware of them, so one question remains: Why are we still using TeX/LaTeX instead of XML? There must be a reason. Stefan, coming back to your question: >> [1] Is TeX Turing-complete? Yes. Every modern programming language is Turing-complete. But it doesn't mean very much. It means that particular things are doable, it doesn't mean that you really want to do them. Since TeX is Turing- complete, it's possible to write macros dealing with matrices of complex numbers and, of course, arbitrary precision. But I doubt that anybody wants do program this in TeX. BTW, one of the smallest Turing-complete programming languages is Brainfuck. It's even quite painful there to print "hello, world!". In order to count characters or words, I think that LuaTeX is the best choice nowadays. The same could be done by external scripts too, but nothing else is as portable as LuaTeX. The program code could be inserted by \input or \usepackage, characters and words could be counted either when TeX reads its input files or when it ships out pages, whatever approach is more appropriate, and the results could be written to the log file. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From chuck at sharpsteen.net Wed Mar 14 02:13:04 2012 From: chuck at sharpsteen.net (Charlie Sharpsteen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:13:04 -0700 Subject: [texworks] Count Characters Script In-Reply-To: <20319.59336.875861.563965@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <8547BB8E2B8F4F93A17C500D109CF534@JohannesPC> <4F5F9E61.5090001@gmail.com> <4F5FA00F.3080908@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20319.59336.875861.563965@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > On the other hand, you can't simply insert Python function calls into > a text file without worrying about some concept of escape sequences. > In XML/HTML angle brackets have a special meaning and you have to use > special sequences of characters in order to typeset angle brackets > literally. > > Such a file can be parsed easily with regular expressions, of course. > But there is a significant difference between XML/HTML and TeX. While > XML/HTML has to be parsed by an external program, TeX is its own > interpreter built-in. This makes things more difficult, but it also > makes it extremely flexible and powerful. > > If you are using LaTeX without mixing it up with plain TeX code, I > suppose that you can write a parser which is solely based on regular > expressions and an EBNF specification indeed. \catcode is not an > official LaTeX command. Though the EBNF spec has to be extended > whenever an external package is loaded, the same is true for XML. > > As far as Lambda calculus is concerned, IMO it's not bad that it's > supported somehow. I have the impression that Knuth was inspired by > functional programming languages when he designed the scripting > interface, and I'm convinced that this was not a mistake. > > Sure, it would be much easier to have a static document with static > markup tags and a program written in a language like Python, which > transforms the content to PostScript or PDF. This approach would be > context insensitive, the grammar could be described in EBNF, and the > lexical scanner could be set up by regular expressions. > > But all these things exist already and are freely available. We are > all aware of them, so one question remains: Why are we still using > TeX/LaTeX instead of XML? There must be a reason. "Why are we still using TeX?" is not the question I was trying to ask---or answer. I was simply demonstrating that faithfully deconstructing TeX is several orders of magnitude more difficult than processing just about any other programming or markup language and hence it is very difficult to write a lightweight processor that can do things like count the characters that will be produced by an arbitrary string of TeX. -Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From esperanto at swing.be Wed Mar 14 09:21:27 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:21:27 +0100 Subject: [texworks] The future of TeXworks + how you can help In-Reply-To: <4F5F9C45.5040504@gmail.com> References: <4F5DBD3A.4010002@tuwien.ac.at> <4F5F6468.2060108@swing.be> <4F5F9C45.5040504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F605507.6030409@swing.be> Hi, Le 13/03/2012 20:13, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > Hi, > > On 2012-03-13 16:14, Alain Delmotte wrote: >> One idea I have for a long time is to have the poossibility to link >> keyboard short cuts to each action in TW; but to do this with an >> external list of short cuts and function's name. > > I'm not sure I know what you mean. As you wrote yourself, shortcuts can > be assigned by editing a text file. Thus the possibility exists in > principle. So, are you > - suggesting an easier way to do that (e.g., using a dialog)? That's on > the IdeasAndProjects list > - suggesting to be able to assign shortcuts to things that they > currently can't be assigned to (e.g., the invocation of SyncTeX)? This > is not so straight-forward, but is in principle of the (long-term) > wish-list. > - something else? What I am suggesting is to be able to do what is already possible, but for all actions. Example: open a menu or an option in a menu. In the Search/Replace dialog box this does already exist. You know, those underlined characters. This is also called "accelerator", I think. Under Windows in most programs, it is possible to work without using the mouse!! Regards, Alain > > Regards, > Stefan > From henrikmidtiby at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 15:41:28 2012 From: henrikmidtiby at gmail.com (Henrik Skov Midtiby) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:41:28 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: Available script hooks Message-ID: Hi I'm considering how to make a script that can come with suggestions or hints while the user enters text in the editor. The script should not need to be invoked by the user, but activated by entering text in the editor. If there were a OnKeyPress hook, this could activate the script. On how to show the hints / suggestions, is it possible to open a list next to the cursor? The least demanding solution would be to insert to most likely suggestion as raw text, having it selected, such that the next inserted char will overwrite the suggestion. In addition I would like some input on what should be shown in such hints. As an example, if the current line reads \begin{wrapfig the suggested completion of the line would be \begin{wrapfigure}[lineheight]{alignment}{width} Best regards Henrik From henrikmidtiby at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 15:58:47 2012 From: henrikmidtiby at gmail.com (Henrik Skov Midtiby) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:58:47 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: Available script hooks In-Reply-To: <4F620125.6050402@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4F620125.6050402@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: > Assuming that "wrapfigure", "lineheight", "alignment" & "width" > are all in the same font, I do not think this a good idea; > to use the same font for notions ("wrapfigure") and meta-notions > ("lineheight", "alignment" & "width") can easily lead to > confusion, particularly for those who are in need of hints > in the first place. You have some good points there. My consideration were how to do if it not was possible to change fonts in the hint. > It would be much clearer, IMHO, if > the metanotions were in italics, and/or set off by metalinguistic > brackets ("<" & ">"). So the suggestion should be like \begin{wrapfig \begin{wrapfigure}[]{}{} details of the acceptable datatypes could also be given \begin{wrapfigure}[]{}{} but this can turn out to be confusing quite fast /Henrik On 15 March 2012 15:48, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > > Henrik Skov Midtiby wrote: > >> [I]f the current line reads >> >> >> \begin{wrapfig >> >> the suggested completion of the line would be >> >> \begin{wrapfigure}[lineheight]{alignment}{width} > > > Assuming that "wrapfigure", "lineheight", "alignment" & "width" > are all in the same font, I do not think this a good idea; > to use the same font for notions ("wrapfigure") and meta-notions > ("lineheight", "alignment" & "width") can easily lead to > confusion, particularly for those who are in need of hints > in the first place. ?It would be much clearer, IMHO, if > the metanotions were in italics, and/or set off by metalinguistic > brackets ("<" & ">"). > > Philip Taylor From P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 16:24:51 2012 From: P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:24:51 +0000 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: Available script hooks In-Reply-To: References: <4F620125.6050402@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <4F6209C3.6020406@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Henrik Skov Midtiby wrote: > details of the acceptable datatypes could also be given > \begin{wrapfigure}[]{ o]>}{} > but this can turn out to be confusing quite fast Agreed :-) From P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 15:48:05 2012 From: P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:48:05 +0000 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: Available script hooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F620125.6050402@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Henrik Skov Midtiby wrote: > [I]f the current line reads > > \begin{wrapfig > > the suggested completion of the line would be > > \begin{wrapfigure}[lineheight]{alignment}{width} Assuming that "wrapfigure", "lineheight", "alignment" & "width" are all in the same font, I do not think this a good idea; to use the same font for notions ("wrapfigure") and meta-notions ("lineheight", "alignment" & "width") can easily lead to confusion, particularly for those who are in need of hints in the first place. It would be much clearer, IMHO, if the metanotions were in italics, and/or set off by metalinguistic brackets ("<" & ">"). Philip Taylor From st.loeffler at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 20:07:05 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIEzDtmZmbGVy?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:07:05 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: Available script hooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F623DD9.7030708@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-15 15:41, Henrik Skov Midtiby wrote: > I'm considering how to make a script that can come with suggestions or > hints while the user enters text in the editor. The script should not > need to be invoked by the user, but activated by entering text in the > editor. > If there were a OnKeyPress hook, this could activate the script. For performance reasons, this doesn't exist at the moment. I had some ideas similar to what you have in mind, but to do this properly, the "Autocompletion module" on the IdeasAndProjects list should be completed first. Regards, Stefan From henrikmidtiby at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 09:38:46 2012 From: henrikmidtiby at gmail.com (Henrik Skov Midtiby) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:38:46 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Scripting: Available script hooks In-Reply-To: <4F623DD9.7030708@gmail.com> References: <4F623DD9.7030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: >> If there were a OnKeyPress hook, this could activate the script. > For performance reasons, this doesn't exist at the moment. I have only a faint idea of the cost of invoking a script, and such a script would be activated a lot. > I had some ideas similar to what you have in mind, but to do this > properly, the "Autocompletion module" on the IdeasAndProjects list > should be completed first. It could be interesting to take a look at that task. On 15 March 2012 20:07, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-03-15 15:41, Henrik Skov Midtiby wrote: >> I'm considering how to make a script that can come with suggestions or >> hints while the user enters text in the editor. The script should not >> need to be invoked by the user, but activated by entering text in the >> editor. >> If there were a OnKeyPress hook, this could activate the script. > > For performance reasons, this doesn't exist at the moment. > I had some ideas similar to what you have in mind, but to do this > properly, the "Autocompletion module" on the IdeasAndProjects list > should be completed first. > > Regards, > Stefan From rhkubiak at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 08:51:01 2012 From: rhkubiak at gmail.com (Ryszard Kubiak) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:51:01 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Space as a hotkey Message-ID: <4F644265.5000809@guests.ipipan.gda.pl> Dear All, I wonder whether the space character can be used as a hotkey to invoke a script. I am thinking of writing a script that would on the fly replace the space character with ~, depending on a surrounding context. A more general question would be whether TeXworks internals allow the editor to be extended so that one could define their own input method. For example, in Emacs many input methods are defined for editing in various alpabets based on just ASCII characters. Or, you think that such a feature is better to be provided by external, keyboard layout tools? Regards, Ryszard From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Sat Mar 17 17:31:18 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:31:18 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Space as a hotkey In-Reply-To: <4F644265.5000809@guests.ipipan.gda.pl> References: <4F644265.5000809@guests.ipipan.gda.pl> Message-ID: <20324.48214.865287.282583@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-03-17 at 08:51:01 +0100, Ryszard Kubiak wrote: > Dear All, > > I wonder whether the space character can be used as a hotkey > to invoke a script. I am thinking of writing a script that > would on the fly replace the space character with ~, depending > on a surrounding context. > > A more general question would be whether TeXworks internals > allow the editor to be extended so that one could define > their own input method. For example, in Emacs many input > methods are defined for editing in various alpabets based > on just ASCII characters. Or, you think that such a feature > is better to be provided by external, keyboard layout tools? In many cases it's also necessary to be able to toggle quickly between two input methods. This can better be accomplished when input methods are built-in. External input methods are also less portable. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From guneyp at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 03:27:04 2012 From: guneyp at gmail.com (Guney Petek) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:27:04 -0400 Subject: [texworks] tex code formatting Message-ID: Hello, does TeXworks have a code beautifier similar to html-tidy? thanks\\ Guney -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boumtjeboumtje at web.de Thu Mar 22 11:26:48 2012 From: boumtjeboumtje at web.de (Hendrik Platte) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:26:48 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <4F6AFE68.5030208@web.de> Hi everybody, I have a problem with BibTex: I want to compile a bibliograohy with JabRef, but all I get is a "?" instead of the reference. As far as I know the problem is that TeXworks doesn`t run BibTex automatically... I tried the option BibTex in "Typeset", but this doesn`t work as well. Sincerely yours, Hendrik Platte PS: My (minimal) code reads as follows: \documentclass[a4paper]{scrartcl} \usepackage{filecontents} \begin{filecontents}{Expose.bib} @ARTICLE{gardini2011mercosur, author = {Gardini, G.L.}, title = {MERCOSUR: What You See Is Not (Always) What You Get}, journal = {European Law Journal}, year = {2011}, volume = {17}, pages = {683--700}, number = {5}, publisher = {Wiley Online Library} } \end{filecontents} \begin{document} text\cite{gardini2011mercosur}. \bibliography{Expose} \bibliographystyle{alphadin} \end{document} ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9) Install location : C:/Program Files/MikTex new/miktex/bin/miktex-texworks.exe Library path : C:/Users/Hendrik/AppData/Local/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MikTex new/miktex/bin/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition, 32-bit Service Pack 2 (build 6002) Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) ------------------------------ From felix at wieczorek-systems.de Thu Mar 22 15:17:40 2012 From: felix at wieczorek-systems.de (Felix Wieczorek) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:17:40 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <4F6AFE68.5030208@web.de> References: <4F6AFE68.5030208@web.de> Message-ID: <20120322151740.Horde.mRxGJmUEqbNPazSEkDRVwuA@horde.wieczorek-systems.de> Hi Hendrik, you have to invoke the package natbib for the bibstyle alphadin you have to set the style before the bibliography command to compile use - pdfLaTeX then BibteX and then two times pdfLaTeX or - latexmk which does the necessary runs for you a working example (at least for me) is: --- \documentclass[a4paper]{scrartcl} \usepackage{filecontents} \usepackage{natbib} \begin{filecontents}{Expose.bib} @ARTICLE{gardini2011mercosur, author = {Gardini, G.L.}, title = {MERCOSUR: What You See Is Not (Always) What You Get}, journal = {European Law Journal}, year = {2011}, volume = {17}, pages = {683--700}, number = {5}, publisher = {Wiley Online Library} } \end{filecontents} \begin{document} text\cite{gardini2011mercosur}. \bibliographystyle{alphadin} \bibliography{Expose} \end{document} --- Sincerly, Felix --- Hendrik Platte wrote at Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:26:48 +0100: --- > Hi everybody, > I have a problem with BibTex: I want to compile a bibliograohy with > JabRef, but all I get is a "?" instead of the reference. As far as I > know the problem is that TeXworks doesn`t run BibTex > automatically... I tried the option BibTex in "Typeset", but this > doesn`t work as well. > Sincerely yours, > Hendrik Platte > [...] From st.loeffler at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 10:26:52 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:26:52 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Translations Message-ID: <4F6C41DC.9050709@gmail.com> Hi, as you may or may not have noticed, we are currently preparing for a new minor stable release (0.4.4) to be included in TeXLive 2012 which is due later this spring (or fall on the southern hemisphere). Right now, TeXworks is available in 20 different languages. If you happen to be fluent in at least one of them (preferably English) and one that is currently not supported, you can help make TeXworks more accessible to people by translating its interface to that (so far) unsupported language. If you're interested in doing that, please have a look at http://code.google.com/p/texworks/wiki/Translating to get started. Since we are somewhat bound by the release schedule of TeXLive, it would be great if you could submit any translations by April 4 (to the list, to me personally, or by creating a new Google Code issue and attaching it there). I realize that for starting from scratch, this is a very short time frame, but the translations don't have to be perfect or complete (though of course that would be preferable ;)) - every little bit helps. Cheers, Stefan PS: The maintainers of the existing translations have been contacted separately. If you are not one of them but want to work on one of the existing translations, please contact the respective translation maintainer (and/or me) to avoid confusion. From lederer at lps.u-psud.fr Fri Mar 23 15:39:16 2012 From: lederer at lps.u-psud.fr (Pascal Lederer) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:39:16 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <4F6C8B14.3050507@lps.u-psud.fr> ----- configuration info -----TeXworks version : 0.4.3r858 (official)Install location : C:/Program Files/TeXworks/TeXworks.exeLibrary path : C:/Users/Utilisateur/TeXworks\pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/pdftex.exeOperating system : Windows Vista Service Pack 2, 32-bitQt4 version : 4.7.3 (build) / 4.7.3 (runtime)------------------------------ *I get the following error message when trying to compile a text presentation file (with prosper):* ! Package hyperref Error: Wrong DVI mode driver option `ps2pdf', (hyperref) because pdfTeX or LuaTeX is running in PDF mode. See the hyperref package documentation for explanation. Type H for immediate help. What can I do to suppress that error? 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From kuznetsovaj21 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 24 20:04:42 2012 From: kuznetsovaj21 at yahoo.com (Zhanna Kuznetsova) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:04:42 -0300 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: How to make columns? ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r858 (personal) Install location : /Applications/TeX/TeXworks.app Library path : /Users/zhannakuznetsova/Library/TeXworks/ pdfTeX location : /usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86_64-darwin/pdftex Operating system : Mac OS X 10.7.0 (Darwin Kernel Version 11.0.1: Wed Jun 29 19:53:22 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1699.23.2~1/RELEASE_X86_64) Qt4 version : 4.7.3 (build) / 4.7.3 (runtime) ------------------------------ From navarro at us.es Sat Mar 24 21:46:22 2012 From: navarro at us.es (navarro at us.es) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:46:22 +0100 Subject: [texworks] launching Yap in forward search Message-ID: <8a655c971c6b1ef364bacd6b515fc648@us.es> Hello everybody, I am trying to configure a tool to launch Yap to do a forward search to the DVI location corresponding to the current line of the source file mydoc.tex. The name of the DVI file is mydoc.dvi. I need to be able to pass on a variable with the line number. For example, if I wanted to jump to line 41, the forward search would be initiated like this: C:> YAP -S 41MYDOC.TEX MYDOC.DVI FOR THE GENERAL CASE I NEED TO PUT IN THERE THE PLACEHOLDER WITH CURRENT LINE NUMBER. BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND HOW TO THIS. I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL IF SOMEONE COULD TELL ME IF THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL AND IF SO HOW TO DO IT. THANKS IN ADVANCE. ALFREDO -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Sat Mar 24 23:20:32 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:20:32 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20334.18608.649824.465230@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-03-24 at 16:04:42 -0300, Zhanna Kuznetsova wrote: > How to make columns? I suppose that you are talking about LaTeX, right? It's better then to ask on an a mailing list which covers general questions about TeX/LaTeX, such as texhax: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax In short, LaTeX's \documentclass has an optional argument 'twocolumn' and there is a multicol package. Both have limitations and you have to find out first which one suits your needs best. On the command line, run texdoc usrguide texdoc multicol in order to get the documentation. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From st.loeffler at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 13:47:10 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:47:10 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <4F6C8B14.3050507@lps.u-psud.fr> References: <4F6C8B14.3050507@lps.u-psud.fr> Message-ID: <4F6F05BE.4010305@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-23 15:39, Pascal Lederer wrote: > ! Package hyperref Error: Wrong DVI mode driver option `ps2pdf', > > (hyperref) because pdfTeX or LuaTeX is running in PDF mode. > > See the hyperref package documentation for explanation. > > Type H for immediate help. > > > What can I do to suppress that error? It seems like a clash of options/programs. The ps2pdf driver option apparently is not compatible with the program you use for typesetting. In my experience, it's usually not necessary to give any driver at all (at least if you're using pdftex). So I'd try removing it (if you added it, that is; not if hyperref is loaded in the class or a package you use, in which case I'd have a look at the respective documentation). In any case, the primary purpose of this mailing list is to discuss the TeXworks front end, not LaTeX itself. So you might be better off asking this question on a dedicated (La)TeX mailing list (e.g., http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax). It would also be good if you could include a (minimal) example to demonstrate the problem. Regards, Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have a look at the launchPdf.js and toogleBold.js scripts coming with TeXworks to see how to run external programs and how to get the current cursor position (from there, you only need to count line breaks to get the line number). HTH Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lomov.vl at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 16:58:39 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:58:39 +0900 Subject: [texworks] Updated Russian translation Message-ID: <20120325145839.GB1044@smoon> Hello, I updated Russian translation. Comment: previously there were phrases "[Hide|Show] Output Panel" now they are "[Hide|Show] Output Console", I prefer the first form, so I use them in translation (imho, word "panel" fits more with conception of GUI editor). --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- If parents would only realize how they bore their children. -- G.B. Shaw -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TeXworks_ru.ts.bz2 Type: application/x-bzip2 Size: 10990 bytes Desc: not available URL: From navarro at us.es Sun Mar 25 19:24:48 2012 From: navarro at us.es (navarro at us.es) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:24:48 +0200 Subject: [texworks] launching Yap in forward search In-Reply-To: <4F6F06C9.1040003@gmail.com> References: <8a655c971c6b1ef364bacd6b515fc648@us.es> <4F6F06C9.1040003@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Stefan, Thank you ever so much. I think I get the idea. Best wishes and thank you for your wonderful work. Alfredo On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:51:37 +0200, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-03-24 21:46, navarro at us.es [1]wrote: > >> I am trying to configure a tool to launch Yap to do a forward search to the DVI location corresponding to the current line of the source file mydoc.tex. > > A (typesetting) tool probably is not the right place to implement this. It's intended to process a (source) file as a whole, and thus has no notion of a cursor position. > > I'd suggest implementing this as a script. Have a look at the launchPdf.js and toogleBold.js scripts coming with TeXworks to see how to run external programs and how to get the current cursor position (from there, you only need to count line breaks to get the line number). > > HTH > Stefan Links: ------ [1] mailto:navarro at us.es -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 07:56:21 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:56:21 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Updated Russian translation In-Reply-To: <20120325145839.GB1044@smoon> References: <20120325145839.GB1044@smoon> Message-ID: <4F700505.7040402@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-25 16:58, Vladimir Lomov wrote: > I updated Russian translation. Thanks a lot. Committed as r977. > Comment: > previously there were phrases "[Hide|Show] Output Panel" now they are > "[Hide|Show] Output Console", I prefer the first form, so I use them in > translation (imho, word "panel" fits more with conception of GUI editor). This was changed in r968 to solve issue 274. To summarize, it is feared that "output" is associated with the .pdf file/preview too easily without anything else. Hence "Console" was added to make sure this is not confused with the pdf. But I have no idea how to express this in Russian... ;) (or if it's necessary at all). Cheers, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 08:08:58 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:08:58 +0200 Subject: [texworks] tex code formatting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F7007FA.5050304@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-21 03:27, Guney Petek wrote: > Hello, does TeXworks have a code beautifier similar to html-tidy? No, currently it doesn't. If there are external programs that accomplish that, I expect they could be called via scripting, though. Please let us know if you find any such programs. Regards, Stefan From st.loeffler at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 08:17:03 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIEzDtmZmbGVy?=) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:17:03 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Space as a hotkey In-Reply-To: <4F644265.5000809@guests.ipipan.gda.pl> References: <4F644265.5000809@guests.ipipan.gda.pl> Message-ID: <4F7009DF.1070605@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-17 08:51, Ryszard Kubiak wrote: > I wonder whether the space character can be used as a hotkey > to invoke a script. I am thinking of writing a script that > would on the fly replace the space character with ~, depending > on a surrounding context. I don't think so, but I haven't tried. Whitespaces are ignored AFAIK, so if at all, you should probably use "Space". But still, I don't think single characters are usable as shortcuts (as they are intercepted already by the editor). > A more general question would be whether TeXworks internals > allow the editor to be extended so that one could define > their own input method. For example, in Emacs many input > methods are defined for editing in various alpabets based > on just ASCII characters. Or, you think that such a feature > is better to be provided by external, keyboard layout tools? Following Reinhard's comment, this could be very interesting. E.g., press Ctrl+G to switch to greek letters (useful for math/sciency stuff). It's not straight forward to implement (efficiently), though. Could you please add it to the issue tracker at Google Code? Regards, Stefan From lomov.vl at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 13:21:40 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:21:40 +0900 Subject: [texworks] Updated Russian translation In-Reply-To: <4F700505.7040402@gmail.com> References: <20120325145839.GB1044@smoon> <4F700505.7040402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120326112140.GC1044@smoon> Hello, ** Stefan L?ffler [2012-03-26 07:56:21 +0200]: > Hi, > On 2012-03-25 16:58, Vladimir Lomov wrote: > > I updated Russian translation. > Thanks a lot. Committed as r977. >> Comment: >> previously there were phrases "[Hide|Show] Output Panel" now they are >> "[Hide|Show] Output Console", I prefer the first form, so I use them in >> translation (imho, word "panel" fits more with conception of GUI editor). > This was changed in r968 to solve issue 274. To summarize, it is feared > that "output" is associated with the .pdf file/preview too easily > without anything else. Hence "Console" was added to make sure this is > not confused with the pdf. But I have no idea how to express this in > Russian... ;) (or if it's necessary at all). I have similar sensation, I'll rethink this and send updated version on this week (before weekend). --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- I have to think hard to name an interesting man who does not drink. -- Richard Burton From lomov.vl at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 15:43:03 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:43:03 +0900 Subject: [texworks] Updated Russian translation In-Reply-To: <4F700505.7040402@gmail.com> References: <4F700505.7040402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120326134303.GD1044@smoon> Hello, ** Stefan L?ffler [2012-03-26 07:56:21 +0200]: > Hi, > On 2012-03-25 16:58, Vladimir Lomov wrote: > > I updated Russian translation. > Thanks a lot. Committed as r977. >> Comment: >> previously there were phrases "[Hide|Show] Output Panel" now they are >> "[Hide|Show] Output Console", I prefer the first form, so I use them in >> translation (imho, word "panel" fits more with conception of GUI editor). > This was changed in r968 to solve issue 274. To summarize, it is feared > that "output" is associated with the .pdf file/preview too easily > without anything else. Hence "Console" was added to make sure this is > not confused with the pdf. But I have no idea how to express this in > Russian... ;) (or if it's necessary at all). WDYT about this: "Show/Hide typeseting [process] details"? --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- Peterson's Admonition: When you think you're going down for the third time -- just remember that you may have counted wrong. From antonio.emanuele at unipa.it Mon Mar 26 08:52:25 2012 From: antonio.emanuele at unipa.it (Antonio Emanuele) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:52:25 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user Message-ID: <4F701229.4030404@unipa.it> Synctex file was not created. Apparently the cause should be white spaces in the filename. Antonio Emanuele ----- configuration info ----- TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9 64-bit) Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/x64/miktex-texworks.exe Library path : C:/Documents and Settings/eman/Local Settings/Application Data/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/x64/pdftex.exe Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Service Pack 2 (build 3790) Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) ------------------------------ -- Dr. Antonio Emanuele, Ph.D. Professore Associato di Fisica Applicata/Associate Professor of Applied Physics Dipartimento di Fisica/Department of Physics Universita' di Palermo/University of Palermo via Archirafi 36 I-90123 Palermo Phone +39-091-23891718 Fax +39-091-23891718 From daleif at imf.au.dk Mon Mar 26 18:06:52 2012 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:06:52 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Message from TeXworks user In-Reply-To: <4F701229.4030404@unipa.it> References: <4F701229.4030404@unipa.it> Message-ID: <4F70941C.8090503@imf.au.dk> Antonio Emanuele wrote, On 2012-03-26 08:52: > Synctex file was not created. Apparently the cause should be white > spaces in the filename. > Antonio Emanuele > > ----- configuration info ----- > TeXworks version : 0.4.3r857 (MiKTeX 2.9 64-bit) > Install location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX > 2.9/miktex/bin/x64/miktex-texworks.exe > Library path : C:/Documents and Settings/eman/Local Settings/Application > Data/MiKTeX/2.9/TeXworks/0.4\ > pdfTeX location : C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/miktex/bin/x64/pdftex.exe > Operating system : Windows Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition > Service Pack 2 (build 3790) > Qt4 version : 4.7.2 (build) / 4.7.2 (runtime) > ------------------------------ > also non-ansii characters in path or filename is know to cause this -- /daleif From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Tue Mar 27 23:23:56 2012 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:23:56 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Space as a hotkey In-Reply-To: <4F7009DF.1070605@gmail.com> References: <4F644265.5000809@guests.ipipan.gda.pl> <4F7009DF.1070605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20338.12268.134186.829707@zaphod.ms25.net> On 2012-03-26 at 08:17:03 +0200, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-03-17 08:51, Ryszard Kubiak wrote: > > I wonder whether the space character can be used as a hotkey > > to invoke a script. I am thinking of writing a script that > > would on the fly replace the space character with ~, depending > > on a surrounding context. > > I don't think so, but I haven't tried. Whitespaces are ignored > AFAIK, so if at all, you should probably use "Space". But still, I > don't think single characters are usable as shortcuts (as they are > intercepted already by the editor). > > > A more general question would be whether TeXworks internals > > allow the editor to be extended so that one could define > > their own input method. For example, in Emacs many input > > methods are defined for editing in various alpabets based > > on just ASCII characters. Or, you think that such a feature > > is better to be provided by external, keyboard layout tools? > > Following Reinhard's comment, this could be very interesting. E.g., > press Ctrl+G to switch to greek letters (useful for math/sciency > stuff). It's not straight forward to implement (efficiently), > though. Could you please add it to the issue tracker at Google > Code? I don't know whether it's necessary to have a keystroke for each input method (such as Ctrl+G for Greek). In Emacs I select input methods from a menu and there is a single keystroke which allows me to toggle between the current one and the previous one. Thus, the user interface can be kept very simple and I never needed anything else. BTW, Emacs has an input method called "TeX" which supports zillions of characters using the \`e notation. No need to have a dedicated input method for French, par example. It covers many Latin-based languages and TeX users are familiar with this notation anyway. For math symbols it's better to have a dedicated input method because many other symbols can be supported too, not only greek letters. However, if input methods are provided by scripts, then nothing is carved in stone and people can experiment with different approaches. No need to make any decisions now. ;) Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From st.loeffler at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 19:04:37 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:04:37 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Updated Russian translation In-Reply-To: <20120326134303.GD1044@smoon> References: <4F700505.7040402@gmail.com> <20120326134303.GD1044@smoon> Message-ID: <4F7344A5.2070907@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-26 15:43, Vladimir Lomov wrote: >>> Comment: >>> previously there were phrases "[Hide|Show] Output Panel" now they are >>> "[Hide|Show] Output Console", I prefer the first form, so I use them in >>> translation (imho, word "panel" fits more with conception of GUI editor). >> This was changed in r968 to solve issue 274. To summarize, it is feared >> that "output" is associated with the .pdf file/preview too easily >> without anything else. Hence "Console" was added to make sure this is >> not confused with the pdf. But I have no idea how to express this in >> Russian... ;) (or if it's necessary at all). > WDYT about this: "Show/Hide typeseting [process] details"? I still prefer "console" (or maybe "terminal") as that is usually associated with a command line tool (and it's exactly the output of such a command line tool we are looking at). But of course that's a personal preference and language dependent. Take whatever sounds good in Russian (preferably, of course, something that is not to be confused with the "output" in the sense of product/pdf). Regards, Stefan PS: FWIW, I'm not going to change the English string anymore now as that would require to revisit all (already completed) translations. From st.loeffler at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 12:22:18 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:22:18 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 Message-ID: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> Hi all, after the call for translations, I guess this request does not come as a surprise. We're currently heading for a release of Tw 0.4.4 in mid-April, in time for its inclusion in TeXLive'12. Hence, I want to ask everyone on this list (who is willing to participate) to give the latest Tw 0.5 r979 a try (since that will become the basis of 0.4.4). Recent builds for Windows and Ubuntu are available, with builds for the Mac to come as soon as Charlie fixes some problems with his new Qt 4.8 build. Particular things that were changed recently and would benefit from testing: * the log parser (which was rewritten, mainly by Antonia and Henrik, to handle long filenames, latexmk, etc.) * search/replace (in particular multi-line copy-to-search and copy-to-replace, but also replace w/ wrapping) * the disappearing lines problem is hopefully gone now * The issue http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=568 which I can't be able to reproduce at the moment Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Let's hope no new problems turn up :). Cheers, Stefan -- Stefan L?ffler Institute of Solid State Physics Vienna University of Technology T: +43 1 58801-13815 Wiedner Hauptstra?e 8-10 / A-1040 Wien F: +43 1 58801-13899 http://tinyurl.com/njcu47 DVR: 0005886 From chuck at sharpsteen.net Thu Mar 29 23:07:31 2012 From: chuck at sharpsteen.net (Charlie Sharpsteen) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:07:31 -0700 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 In-Reply-To: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> References: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > builds for the Mac to come as soon as Charlie fixes some problems with his > new Qt 4.8 build. > A fix for the Qt issues went in upstream this morning. I just posted an experimental build for OS X based on r979, but I am currently on the road for a family event so there are some limitations: - There is an issue with building the scripting plugins, so Python and Lua are currently disabled. - My laptop only has the OS X 10.7 development environment so the package should work on Lion and may possibly work on Snow Leopard---but I cannot be sure at the moment. I hope to get proper builds for Leopard and Snow Leopard at the beginning of next week when I get back from traveling. -Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Initial tests fine on 10.6 (Snow Leopard). -- Joseph Wright From P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk Thu Mar 29 23:36:01 2012 From: P.Taylor at rhul.ac.uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:36:01 +0100 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 In-Reply-To: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> References: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F74D5C1.8060005@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Stefan L?ffler wrote: > I want to ask > everyone on this list (who is willing to participate) to give the latest > Tw 0.5 r979 a try (since that will become the basis of 0.4.4). Recent > builds for Windows and Ubuntu are available, Please forgive my naivety, but what is the download URL ? Philip Taylor From chuck at sharpsteen.net Fri Mar 30 00:44:52 2012 From: chuck at sharpsteen.net (Charlie Sharpsteen) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:44:52 -0700 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 In-Reply-To: <4F74D5C1.8060005@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> <4F74D5C1.8060005@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Stefan L?ffler wrote: > > I want to ask >> everyone on this list (who is willing to participate) to give the latest >> Tw 0.5 r979 a try (since that will become the basis of 0.4.4). Recent >> builds for Windows and Ubuntu are available, >> > > Please forgive my naivety, but what is the download URL ? > Philip Taylor > All downloads are posted at the TeXworks project site on Google Code: http://code.google.com/p/texworks/downloads -Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From lomov.vl at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 14:28:52 2012 From: lomov.vl at gmail.com (Vladimir Lomov) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:28:52 +0900 Subject: [texworks] Updated Russian translation In-Reply-To: <4F7344A5.2070907@gmail.com> References: <4F700505.7040402@gmail.com> <20120326134303.GD1044@smoon> <4F7344A5.2070907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120330122852.GA1018@smoon> Hello, ** Stefan L?ffler [2012-03-28 19:04:37 +0200]: > Hi, > On 2012-03-26 15:43, Vladimir Lomov wrote: >>>> Comment: >>>> previously there were phrases "[Hide|Show] Output Panel" now they are >>>> "[Hide|Show] Output Console", I prefer the first form, so I use them in >>>> translation (imho, word "panel" fits more with conception of GUI editor). >>> This was changed in r968 to solve issue 274. To summarize, it is feared >>> that "output" is associated with the .pdf file/preview too easily >>> without anything else. Hence "Console" was added to make sure this is >>> not confused with the pdf. But I have no idea how to express this in >>> Russian... ;) (or if it's necessary at all). >> WDYT about this: "Show/Hide typeseting [process] details"? > I still prefer "console" (or maybe "terminal") as that is usually > associated with a command line tool (and it's exactly the output of such > a command line tool we are looking at). But of course that's a personal > preference and language dependent. Take whatever sounds good in Russian > (preferably, of course, something that is not to be confused with the > "output" in the sense of product/pdf). But this panel is NOT console or terminal in sense of konsole, gnome-terminal and etc or like embedded terminal in kate, that's why I was in doubt when translating the strings. Yes this is output from engine run as much like in terminal but in terminal user can terminate typesetting by pressing Ctrl-C. > PS: FWIW, I'm not going to change the English string anymore now as that > would require to revisit all (already completed) translations. I would wait the release and return to these strings after it. --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- And tomorrow will be like today, only more so. -- Isaiah 56:12, New Standard Version From kbrow1i at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 16:43:41 2012 From: kbrow1i at gmail.com (Ken Brown) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:43:41 -0400 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 In-Reply-To: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> References: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F75C69D.90408@gmail.com> On 3/29/2012 6:22 AM, Stefan L?ffler wrote: > Hi all, > > after the call for translations, I guess this request does not come as a > surprise. We're currently heading for a release of Tw 0.4.4 in > mid-April, in time for its inclusion in TeXLive'12. Hence, I want to ask > everyone on this list (who is willing to participate) to give the latest > Tw 0.5 r979 a try (since that will become the basis of 0.4.4). I'm new to this list (and to TeXworks). Is there a source tarball available if I want to try building Tw 0.5 r979, or should I just checkout the svn trunk? Ken From st.loeffler at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 17:03:36 2012 From: st.loeffler at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_L=F6ffler?=) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:03:36 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 In-Reply-To: <4F75C69D.90408@gmail.com> References: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> <4F75C69D.90408@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F75CB48.1030507@gmail.com> Hi, On 2012-03-30 16:43, Ken Brown wrote: > I'm new to this list (and to TeXworks). Is there a source tarball > available if I want to try building Tw 0.5 r979, or should I just > checkout the svn trunk? Welcome, then :). A checkout is fine. Source tarballs are only (created and) uploaded for the final (stable) releases. This limits bandwidth usage (as only the changed files are transferred) and provides additional features (such as svn logs). Cheers, Stefan From cursus.publicus at sacrumromanumimperium.org Fri Mar 30 18:14:39 2012 From: cursus.publicus at sacrumromanumimperium.org (Andreas Hirsch) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:14:39 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 In-Reply-To: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> References: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F75DBEF.20904@sacrumromanumimperium.org> Hi Stefan, quoting Stefan L?ffler, [29.03.2012 12:22 +0100]: > Particular things that were changed recently and would benefit from testing: > * the log parser (which was rewritten, mainly by Antonia and Henrik, to > handle long filenames, latexmk, etc.) > * search/replace (in particular multi-line copy-to-search and > copy-to-replace, but also replace w/ wrapping) Could you give me a few hints what to test in detail? > * The issue http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=568 > which I can't be able to reproduce at the moment I was able to reproduce the situation: > Problemsignatur: > Problemereignisname: APPCRASH > Anwendungsname: TeXworks.exe > Anwendungsversion: 0.5.0.979 > Anwendungszeitstempel: 4f73f952 > Fehlermodulname: TeXworks.exe > Fehlermodulversion: 0.5.0.979 > Fehlermodulzeitstempel: 4f73f952 > Ausnahmecode: c0000005 > Ausnahmeoffset: 007b4ee3 > Betriebsystemversion: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.256.6 > Gebietsschema-ID: 1031 > Zusatzinformation 1: 7991 > Zusatzinformation 2: cb24b4000cac4f51eb8e2bd0dcf759e1 > Zusatzinformation 3: 04e5 > Zusatzinformation 4: 0193b860f6c01b7c355095f86bfa9bf8 Andreas -- 'Die meisten bekommen eine Meinung, wie man einen Schnupfen bekommt: durch Ansteckung.' Axel von Ambesser (1910-1988) From monty.luis at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 18:40:15 2012 From: monty.luis at gmail.com (Luis Montgomery Antelo) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:40:15 -0600 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 In-Reply-To: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> References: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> Message-ID: Today I compiled the p979 version in Mac OS X with only two commands: $ qmake TeXworks.pro $ make (and gcc 4.7.0 and Qt 4.8.1) See screenshot. regards, Luis PD. - Remains a problem when linking libTWLuaPlugin.dylib! El 29 de marzo de 2012 04:22, Stefan L?ffler escribi?: > Hi all, > > after the call for translations, I guess this request does not come as a > surprise. We're currently heading for a release of Tw 0.4.4 in > mid-April, in time for its inclusion in TeXLive'12. Hence, I want to ask > everyone on this list (who is willing to participate) to give the latest > Tw 0.5 r979 a try (since that will become the basis of 0.4.4). Recent > builds for Windows and Ubuntu are available, with builds for the Mac to > come as soon as Charlie fixes some problems with his new Qt 4.8 build. > > Particular things that were changed recently and would benefit from > testing: > * the log parser (which was rewritten, mainly by Antonia and Henrik, to > handle long filenames, latexmk, etc.) > * search/replace (in particular multi-line copy-to-search and > copy-to-replace, but also replace w/ wrapping) > * the disappearing lines problem is hopefully gone now > * The issue http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=568 > which I can't be able to reproduce at the moment > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Let's hope no new problems > turn up :). > > Cheers, > Stefan > > -- > > Stefan L?ffler Institute of Solid State > Physics > Vienna University of Technology T: +43 1 > 58801-13815 > Wiedner Hauptstra?e 8-10 / A-1040 Wien F: +43 1 > 58801-13899 > http://tinyurl.com/njcu47 DVR: > 0005886 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TeXworks-p979osx.png Type: image/png Size: 574218 bytes Desc: not available URL: From esperanto at swing.be Sat Mar 31 15:43:29 2012 From: esperanto at swing.be (Alain Delmotte) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:43:29 +0200 Subject: [texworks] Call for Help: Testing for Tw 0.4.4 In-Reply-To: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> References: <4F7437DA.9070201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F770A01.3040607@swing.be> Hi! With r.979, I tested for the issue 568, under Windows XP and I can reproduce the crash as described in the first report. Regards, Alain Le 29/03/2012 12:22, Stefan L?ffler a ?crit : > Hi all, > > after the call for translations, I guess this request does not come as a > surprise. We're currently heading for a release of Tw 0.4.4 in > mid-April, in time for its inclusion in TeXLive'12. Hence, I want to ask > everyone on this list (who is willing to participate) to give the latest > Tw 0.5 r979 a try (since that will become the basis of 0.4.4). Recent > builds for Windows and Ubuntu are available, with builds for the Mac to > come as soon as Charlie fixes some problems with his new Qt 4.8 build. > > Particular things that were changed recently and would benefit from testing: > * the log parser (which was rewritten, mainly by Antonia and Henrik, to > handle long filenames, latexmk, etc.) > * search/replace (in particular multi-line copy-to-search and > copy-to-replace, but also replace w/ wrapping) > * the disappearing lines problem is hopefully gone now > * The issue http://code.google.com/p/texworks/issues/detail?id=568 > which I can't be able to reproduce at the moment > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Let's hope no new problems > turn up :). > > Cheers, > Stefan >