# [texhax] FW: Re: bigfoot.sty and paired footnotes

Uwe Lueck uwe.lueck at web.de
Sun Jun 14 22:23:46 CEST 2009

ok, this will probably stay off the list. Or is there anybody reading this who likes to guess from David Kastrup files how to use his macros for "paired footnotes"? Or still (Marcel also!) guessing at an implementation without bigfoot ... ? I find this interesting, but I must do other things first ...

Marcel, regarding the example on the FU page, there is also the matter of "overriding" "single paragraph" mode for "single" footnotes, namely for long ones. This is bigfoot-specific. But do you need this? If not, I still think that the feature can be implemented with manyfoot only, without bigfoot.

-- Uwe.

"Marcel Knie" <sleep.well at gmx.de> schrieb am 14.06.2009 19:12:32:
> That's right i need the commands to arrange the middle part of the footnoteapparatus like it is shown in bigfoot.pdf, but it is not described in the documentation of the bigfootpackage and i can't understand this part in the bigfoot.dtx. The particular part starts with:
>
> footnote stacks are used for paired footnotes that refer to a text
> % range instead of a single text point.  For example, you can use
> % something like
> % \begin{verbatim}
> % Text \var<{was there}is here\var>
> % \end{verbatim}
> % To have a text variant was there'' for the original passage is
> % here'', and mark it, say, as \textsuperscript{a}is
> % here\textsuperscript{\textsl{a}}'' by employing the |suffix| package
> % suitably.
>
> So how can i make this special footnotes.
>
> greets
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:03:00 +0200
> > Von: Uwe Lueck <uwe.lueck at web.de>
> > An: Marcel Knie <sleep.well at gmx.de>
> > CC: texhax at tug.org, Erik Norvelle <signups2 at norvelle.org>
> > Betreff: [texhax] FW: Re:  bigfoot.sty and paired footnotes
>
> > OK, I recognize some rules on
> >
> >     http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~latex/Materialien/bigfoot.pdf
> >
> > There is a "middle" apparatus, where notes are numbered pagewise and
> > alphabetically, and there are "short" and "long" ones. Short ones get one letter
> > only and are gathered in single lines.
> >
> > Since that page seems to be part of a LaTeX tutorial at FU Berlin and the
> > file is named bigfoot.pdf, it may have been typeset with bigfoot.sty
> > indeed, David Kastrup may well have implemented such a footnote style that had
> > not existed in manyfoot, (l)edmac, and the TeXbook.
> >
> > If I am guessing correctly, you just need instructions about bigfoot
> > commands!?
> >
> > -- Uwe.
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: "Uwe Lueck" <uwe.lueck at web.de>
> > Gesendet: 14.06.09 16:39:48
> >
> > Not much clearer. bigfoot.pdf looks like having been arranged manually,
> > rather than what has ever been implemented in TeX.
> >
> > "paired footnotes" look a little like numbering pagewise by letters, while
> > it was overlooked that one note was removed and the numbering wasn't
> > correct anymore.
> >
> > If a key idea is choosing footnote marks manually, this can be done as I
> > suggested before, just think of optional arguments for footnote commands.
> >
> > (My last suggestion was "\note{lemma}{remark}" expanding to "\footnotemark
> >
> > \note could have an optional argument such that
> > "\note[<symbol>]{lemma}{remark}" expands to "{\def\thempfn{<symbol>}\footnotemark lemma
> > \footnote{remark}}".
> >
> > To typeset the footnote mark differently in the apparatus, we might modify
> > LaTeX's internal \@makefntext. But before becoming more TeXnical, we need
> > to know something more specific on the footnote layout and how footnote
> > marks are chosen.
> >
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