[math-font-discuss] upright lowercase greek letters

[Jonathan Stickel]

(returning the thread back to the list)

I like your suggestions.  Right now I have a \mathup command that maps 
to either \mathrm or \mathsf depending on my desired output.  Creating a 
mathup package does seem like a good approach to this problem.  I'm not 
too sure when I'll have time to look into this seriously but will report 
back if I make some progress.

Jonathan


Ari Stern wrote:
> I'm not an expert in such things by any means, but the same thing 
> happens with \mathbf not bolding Greek letters. Maybe check out how the 
> boldsymbol (amslatex) and bm packages deal with this issue.  It probably 
> wouldn't be too hard to adapt those style files.  Rather than 
> overloading \mathrm, perhaps create a new command (like these packages 
> did), something like \mathup. That way, it doesn't change the expected 
> behavior, and users can always alias \mathrm to call \mathup in the 
> preamble.
> 
> That would be a cool package ... Let me know if you want help putting it 
> together. (Also, anyone else, please chime in if you know a package that 
> already does this!)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ari
> 
> On Aug 1, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Jonathan Stickel <jjstickel at vcn.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ari
>>
>> That is a nice font set.  What I really want, though, is for \mathrm 
>> to select upright greek letters without having to use \other[greek].  
>> Maybe I can get there eventually if I muck around with font 
>> declarations.  If anyone has some advice to get me started, I would be 
>> glad to hear it!
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> Ari Stern wrote:
>>> There may be better options out there, but I really like the
>>> Fourier-GUTenberg font package (fourier.sty).  This has both italic
>>> and upright greek, where the alternate version is accessed with
>>> \otheralpha, \otherbeta, etc.  The advantage is that the two styles
>>> match one another (as well as the surrounding text, which is Adobe
>>> Utopia).
>>> The default is for \alpha to be italic, and \otheralpha to be upright.
>>> Alternatively, if you use the "upright" option
>>> (\usepackage[upright]{fourier}), as in French mathematics style, then
>>> greeks and uppercase romans are upright by default; in this case,
>>> \alpha is upright, and \otheralpha is italic.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ari
>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Jonathan Stickel <jjstickel at vcn.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am new to the list and apologize if this has been discussed 
>>>> before.  I
>>>> would like to have upright lowercase greek letters in math mode when I
>>>> use \mathrm{}.  I know that I can get them by using the Euler font by
>>>> following the suggestions here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.superstrate.net/useful/useful.html
>>>>
>>>> However I would prefer that I would not have to declare each lowercase
>>>> greek letter as a new command.  It is also possible to redeclare the
>>>> "operators" math alphabet (what \mathrm uses) to be the Euler font, but
>>>> then this changes the font of roman letters as well.  I just want to
>>>> change the behavior of the lowercase greek letters.
>>>>
>>>> Uppercase greek letters will respect \mathnormal and \mathrm if the
>>>> package "fixmath" is used, but this is because most math fonts have 
>>>> both
>>>> upright and italic uppercase greek.  The problem seems to be that
>>>> lowercase greek only comes in italic for most fonts or only upright for
>>>> Euler.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> -- 
>>>> http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/math-font-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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