From jeff.hamann at forestinformatics.com Tue Sep 1 21:47:29 2009 From: jeff.hamann at forestinformatics.com (Jeff Hamann) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:47:29 -0700 Subject: [texhax] pst-barcode with pdflatex Message-ID: <68AAD75A-9C42-4DC1-95C9-B3C84BE35D1E@forestinformatics.com> I'm guessing this isn't a new question, but I've having a little trouble getting traction on a solution. I've been trying to use pst-barcode with pdflatex with no success. I've tried just about every combination of options from the pst- barcode examples I could find. Is there a solution? % check to see which tool you're generating the final pdf file from \ifx\pdftexversion\undefined \usepackage[dvips]{graphics} \else \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics} \fi \usepackage{rotating} \usepackage[round]{natbib} \usepackage{tabularx} \usepackage{Sweave} % this is in the R paths... \usepackage{Rnews} \usepackage{alltt} \usepackage{makeidx} \usepackage{fancyhdr} \usepackage{amssymb,amsmath,upgreek,mathrsfs} \usepackage[boxed]{algorithm2e} \usepackage{lineno} \usepackage{subfigure} \usepackage[amssymb]{SIunits} \usepackage{pstricks,pst-plot,pst-pdf,pst-barcode} \usepackage{svn} \usepackage[draft]{pdfdraftcopy} \usepackage[round]{natbib} \usepackage{wasysym,textcomp} \bibliographystyle{abbrvnat} Jeff Hamann, PhD PO Box 1421 Corvallis, Oregon 97339-1421 541-754-2457 jeff.hamann[at]forestinformatics[dot]com http://www.forestinformatics.com From Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE Wed Sep 2 10:12:31 2009 From: Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE (Herbert Voss) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:12:31 +0200 Subject: [texhax] pst-barcode with pdflatex In-Reply-To: <68AAD75A-9C42-4DC1-95C9-B3C84BE35D1E@forestinformatics.com> References: <68AAD75A-9C42-4DC1-95C9-B3C84BE35D1E@forestinformatics.com> Message-ID: <4A9E28EF.4080305@FU-Berlin.DE> Jeff Hamann schrieb: > I'm guessing this isn't a new question, but I've having a little trouble > getting traction on a solution. > > I've been trying to use pst-barcode with pdflatex with no success. > > I've tried just about every combination of options from the pst-barcode > examples I could find. > > Is there a solution? \documentclass{article} \usepackage{pst-pdf,pst-barcode} \begin{document} \begin{pspicture}(-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) \psbarcode {9781860742712}{includetext guardwhitespace}{ean13} \end{pspicture} \end{document} with latex->dvips->ps2pdf you'll get a pdf file with the bounding box of (-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) running the file with the script ps4pdf you'll get a letter sized pdf with the barcode alternative run (it is what the script ps4pdf does) latex dvips -Ppdf -o ps2pdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None pdflatex Herbert From Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE Wed Sep 2 10:23:34 2009 From: Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE (Herbert Voss) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:23:34 +0200 Subject: [texhax] pst-barcode with pdflatex In-Reply-To: <4A9E28EF.4080305@FU-Berlin.DE> References: <68AAD75A-9C42-4DC1-95C9-B3C84BE35D1E@forestinformatics.com> <4A9E28EF.4080305@FU-Berlin.DE> Message-ID: <4A9E2B86.9020905@FU-Berlin.DE> Herbert Voss schrieb: > Jeff Hamann schrieb: >> I'm guessing this isn't a new question, but I've having a little trouble >> getting traction on a solution. >> >> I've been trying to use pst-barcode with pdflatex with no success. >> >> I've tried just about every combination of options from the pst-barcode >> examples I could find. >> >> Is there a solution? > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{pst-pdf,pst-barcode} \usepackage{auto-pst-pdf,pst-barcode} I forgot it ... running pdflatex -shell-escape makes live easier Herbert > \begin{document} > > \begin{pspicture}(-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) > \psbarcode > {9781860742712}{includetext guardwhitespace}{ean13} > \end{pspicture} > > \end{document} > > with latex->dvips->ps2pdf you'll get a pdf file with the > bounding box of (-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) > > running the file with the script ps4pdf you'll > get a letter sized pdf with the barcode > > alternative run (it is what the script ps4pdf does) > > latex > dvips -Ppdf -o > ps2pdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None > pdflatex > > > Herbert > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > From mohamed.houssni at e-press.co.ma Wed Sep 2 12:19:05 2009 From: mohamed.houssni at e-press.co.ma (Mohamed HOUSSNI) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:19:05 +0000 Subject: [texhax] hypertext link Message-ID: <4A9E4699.5090000@e-press.co.ma> Dear list, I am using hyperref package to generate hypertext link in my PDF file (via latex ---> dvips ---> Distiller) but the vicinity which can I click is not to wide. Please is there someone to help me resolve this problem to insert a latex command to increase neighbourhood. Thanks a lot -- ------------------- Dr. Mohamed Houssni Responsable d'Edition e-Press, 34, Rue Mustapha El Manfalouti Quartier Gauthier Casablanca - Maroc Phone : 212 (0)522 26 23 21 Fax : 212 (0)522 26 80 84 From Mc-Kiernan at att.net Wed Sep 2 09:05:44 2009 From: Mc-Kiernan at att.net (Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian,) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:05:44 +0000 Subject: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets Message-ID: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> I'm attempting to produce formulae some of which have large angle brackets as delimiters. Some of these should be, say, 9 lines tall. But, when pdfeTeX renders them, none are a full three lines tall. Other delimiters (parentheses, brackets, and braces), large and small, are rendering fine. I'm using packages graphicx, latexsym, amsmath, amssymb. Thanks in advance for whatever help might be offered. From haihaoshen at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 12:44:52 2009 From: haihaoshen at gmail.com (Haihao Shen) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:44:52 +0800 Subject: [texhax] Hyphenation in tabular environments Message-ID: <4A9E4CA4.9050503@gmail.com> Hi, I have the same problem when I explicitly show hyphen in some column of tabular. I will the enough width for this column, however, the text is separated with two lines. How did you solve this problem? Could you please tell me how to do it? Thanks. Haihao From jeff.hamann at forestinformatics.com Wed Sep 2 15:00:16 2009 From: jeff.hamann at forestinformatics.com (Jeff Hamann) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 06:00:16 -0700 Subject: [texhax] pst-barcode with pdflatex In-Reply-To: <4A9E2B86.9020905@FU-Berlin.DE> References: <68AAD75A-9C42-4DC1-95C9-B3C84BE35D1E@forestinformatics.com> <4A9E28EF.4080305@FU-Berlin.DE> <4A9E2B86.9020905@FU-Berlin.DE> Message-ID: <95E26314-5472-4771-9CDF-29A32C1513EF@forestinformatics.com> Ah ha! Yeah! Awsome... pdflatex -shell-escape works... almost... \documentclass{article} \usepackage{auto-pst-pdf,pst-barcode} \begin{document} \begin{pspicture}(-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) \psbarcode {9781860742712}{includetext guardwhitespace}{ean13} \end{pspicture} \vspace{0.5in} \begin{pspicture}(-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) \psbarcode {9781860742712}{includetext guardwhitespace}{isbn} \end{pspicture} % these cause a problem, see below % \vspace{0.5in} % \begin{pspicture}(1in,1in) % \psbarcode{http://www.dante.de}{}{qrcode} % \end{pspicture} % \vspace{0.5in} % \begin{pspicture}(1in,1in) % \psbarcode{Herbert Voss}{rows=48 columns=48 parse}{datamatrix} % \end{pspicture} \end{document} yields the first two barcodes, but the qrcode and datamatrix codes cause problems. Error: /undefined in qrcode Operand stack: (http://www.dante.de) () Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- -- nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- -- nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1905 1 3 %oparray_pop 1904 1 3 %oparray_pop 1888 1 3 %oparray_pop 1771 1 3 %oparray_pop --nostringval-- %errorexec_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- -- nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:1147/1684(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:104/200 (L)-- --dict:95/300(L)-- --dict:40/200(L)-- --dict:84/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Last OS error: 2 Current file position is 148737 GPL Ghostscript 8.63: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 PDFCROP 1.5, 2004/06/24 - Copyright (c) 2002, 2004 by Heiko Oberdiek. On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Herbert Voss wrote: > Herbert Voss schrieb: >> Jeff Hamann schrieb: >>> I'm guessing this isn't a new question, but I've having a little >>> trouble >>> getting traction on a solution. >>> >>> I've been trying to use pst-barcode with pdflatex with no success. >>> >>> I've tried just about every combination of options from the pst- >>> barcode >>> examples I could find. >>> >>> Is there a solution? >> >> \documentclass{article} >> \usepackage{pst-pdf,pst-barcode} > > \usepackage{auto-pst-pdf,pst-barcode} > > I forgot it ... > > running > > pdflatex -shell-escape > > makes live easier > > Herbert > > >> \begin{document} >> >> \begin{pspicture}(-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) >> \psbarcode >> {9781860742712}{includetext guardwhitespace}{ean13} >> \end{pspicture} >> >> \end{document} >> >> with latex->dvips->ps2pdf you'll get a pdf file with the >> bounding box of (-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) >> >> running the file with the script ps4pdf you'll >> get a letter sized pdf with the barcode >> >> alternative run (it is what the script ps4pdf does) >> >> latex >> dvips -Ppdf -o >> ps2pdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None >> pdflatex >> >> >> Herbert >> _______________________________________________ >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ >> More links: http://tug.org/begin.html >> >> Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax >> Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org >> > Jeff Hamann, PhD PO Box 1421 Corvallis, Oregon 97339-1421 541-754-2457 jeff.hamann[at]forestinformatics[dot]com http://www.forestinformatics.com From Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE Wed Sep 2 15:20:43 2009 From: Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE (Herbert Voss) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:20:43 +0200 Subject: [texhax] pst-barcode with pdflatex In-Reply-To: <95E26314-5472-4771-9CDF-29A32C1513EF@forestinformatics.com> References: <68AAD75A-9C42-4DC1-95C9-B3C84BE35D1E@forestinformatics.com> <4A9E28EF.4080305@FU-Berlin.DE> <4A9E2B86.9020905@FU-Berlin.DE> <95E26314-5472-4771-9CDF-29A32C1513EF@forestinformatics.com> Message-ID: <4A9E712B.2010605@FU-Berlin.DE> Jeff Hamann schrieb: > Ah ha! Yeah! Awsome... > > pdflatex -shell-escape > > works... almost... > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{auto-pst-pdf,pst-barcode} > > \begin{document} > > \begin{pspicture}(-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) > \psbarcode > {9781860742712}{includetext guardwhitespace}{ean13} > \end{pspicture} > > \vspace{0.5in} > > \begin{pspicture}(-5mm,-3mm)(1.5in,1in) > \psbarcode > {9781860742712}{includetext guardwhitespace}{isbn} > \end{pspicture} > > % these cause a problem, see below update your files of pst-barcode *File List* article.cls 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class size10.clo 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX file (size option) pst-barcode.sty 2006/07/23 package wrapper for pst-barcode.tex (hv) pstricks.sty 2008/11/26 v0.40 LaTeX wrapper for `PSTricks' (RN,HV) pstricks.tex 2009/05/19 v1.29 `PSTricks' (tvz,hv) pstricks.pro 2009/01/30 v. 1.06, PostScript prologue file (hv) pst-dots.pro 2006/12/19 v. 2.00, PostScript prologue file (hv) pst-algparser.pro 2008/01/01 v. 0.01, PostScript prologue file (hv) xcolor.sty 2007/01/21 v2.11 LaTeX color extensions (UK) color.cfg 2007/01/18 v1.5 color configuration of teTeX/TeXLive dvips.def 1999/02/16 v3.0i Driver-dependant file (DPC,SPQR) pst-barcode.tex 2009/08/12 v0.07 `PST-barcode' (hv) pst-xkey.tex 2005/11/25 v1.6 PSTricks specialization of xkeyval (HA) xkeyval.sty 2008/08/13 v2.6a package option processing (HA) xkeyval.tex 2008/08/13 v2.6a key=value parser (HA) pst-barcode.pro 2009/08/12 PostScript prologue file (hv) Herbert From daleif at imf.au.dk Wed Sep 2 15:37:41 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:37:41 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Hyphenation in tabular environments In-Reply-To: <4A9E4CA4.9050503@gmail.com> References: <4A9E4CA4.9050503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A9E7525.5050500@imf.au.dk> Haihao Shen wrote: > Hi, > > I have the same problem when I explicitly show hyphen in some column of > tabular. I will the enough width for this column, however, the text is > separated with two lines. > > How did you solve this problem? Could you please tell me how to do it? > > Thanks. > > Haihao could you please specify a minimal example, your description is a bit hard to understand without it. > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org -- /daleif From daleif at imf.au.dk Wed Sep 2 15:40:48 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:40:48 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets In-Reply-To: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> References: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> Message-ID: <4A9E75E0.9050403@imf.au.dk> Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > I'm attempting to produce formulae some of which have large angle > brackets as delimiters. Some of these should be, say, 9 lines tall. > But, when pdfeTeX renders them, none are a full three lines tall. > Other delimiters (parentheses, brackets, and braces), large and > small, are rendering fine. > > I'm using packages graphicx, latexsym, amsmath, amssymb. > > Thanks in advance for whatever help might be offered. > > _______________________________________________ TeX FAQ: > http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq Mailing list archives: > http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ More links: > http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax Human mailing list managers: > postmaster at tug.org minimal example please some fonts provide building blocks for creating large delimiters, but since \lvert and \rvert are sloped, that cannot be present in the font, so pdflatex may be right in refusing to go that large. I would refrase this equation, as a 9-lined equation is already very hard to read. Otherwise draw the delimiter using, say tikz -- /daleif From will.adams at frycomm.com Wed Sep 2 19:04:03 2009 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:04:03 -0400 Subject: [texhax] calculate length using macro in picture environment to use elsewhere Message-ID: <9E492D54-65D8-480B-8B8C-88EDFED34F95@frycomm.com> (Also posted this to comp.text.tex --- my apologies to those who see it twice. I'm at the end of my rope) I'm trying to do this, but the length outside of the picture environment is 0.0 pt. Why? \documentclass{minimal} \begin{document} \newsavebox{\testbox} \newlength{\testboxHT} \newcommand{\testcommand}[1]% {\sbox{\testbox}{#1}\settoheight{\testboxHT}{\usebox{\testbox}}\the \testboxHT\usebox{\testbox}} \begin{picture}(0,0)\put(0,0){% \testcommand{test} } \end{picture}\\ \the\testboxHT \end{document} William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From will.adams at frycomm.com Wed Sep 2 20:15:39 2009 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:15:39 -0400 Subject: [texhax] calculate length using macro in picture environment to use elsewhere In-Reply-To: <9E492D54-65D8-480B-8B8C-88EDFED34F95@frycomm.com> References: <9E492D54-65D8-480B-8B8C-88EDFED34F95@frycomm.com> Message-ID: On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:04 PM, William Adams wrote: > (Also posted this to comp.text.tex --- my apologies to those who see > it twice. I'm at the end of my rope) > > I'm trying to do this, but the length outside of the picture > environment is 0.0 pt. Heiko was kind enough to explain the local aspects of LaTeX lengths on comp.text.tex and that the solution is to \global\testboxHT=\testboxHT William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From Mc-Kiernan at att.net Wed Sep 2 23:12:40 2009 From: Mc-Kiernan at att.net (Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian,) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:12:40 +0000 Subject: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets In-Reply-To: <4A9E75E0.9050403@imf.au.dk> References: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> <4A9E75E0.9050403@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <090220092112.8562.4A9EDFC700066DC10000217222230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> Lars Madsen wrote: > Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > >> I'm attempting to produce formulae some of which have large angle >> brackets as delimiters. Some of these should be, say, 9 lines tall. >> But, when pdfeTeX renders them, none are a full three lines tall. >> Other delimiters (parentheses, brackets, and braces), large and >> small, are rendering fine. >> >> I'm using packages graphicx, latexsym, amsmath, amssymb. > > >> Thanks in advance for whatever help might be offered. > > minimal example please Here's the first formula for which there is a problem: \begin{equation} \left\langle \begin{matrix}\overline{{B_{1}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{3}\right)}}\;\forall B_{3}\\ \vee\\ \left\{ \begin{matrix}\left[B_{1}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{4}\right)\right]\\ \vee\\ \overline{{B_{2}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{4}\right)}}\end{matrix}\right\} \forall B_{4}\end{matrix}\right\rangle \forall\left(B_{1},B_{2}\right) \end{equation} > some fonts provide building blocks for creating large delimiters, but > since \lvert and \rvert are sloped, that cannot be present in the font, > so pdflatex may be right in refusing to go that large. > > I would refrase this equation, as a 9-lined equation is already very > hard to read. These formulae aren't generally equations, and restating them to reduce the number of lines would generally be impracticable (given other constraints) or in fact reduce their readabilitiy. > Otherwise draw the delimiter using, say tikz I cannot tell the publisher to install further software. If I cannot get taller angle brackets from pdflatex, then I will need to fall back to using fewer distinct delimiters (which will make it harder for the reader to parse the formulae). From amart196 at eq.edu.au Wed Sep 2 15:26:53 2009 From: amart196 at eq.edu.au (Aaron Martin) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:26:53 +1000 Subject: [texhax] ifsym issue Message-ID: <79244BDB-553C-4D48-88F3-AE17F249FA86@eq.edu.au> G'day everyone, I have searched the archives and couldn't find anything to help me out. I have been trying to use the symbols \StrokeOne, \StrokeTwo, etc in the ifsym package. Every time i try to compile a PDF, i get errors. I have \usepackage{ifsym} in the preamble. Can someone please help? Aaron From mc-kiernan at att.net Thu Sep 3 01:56:51 2009 From: mc-kiernan at att.net (Mc Kiernan Daniel Kian) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:56:51 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets In-Reply-To: <4A9ED351.23395.2FE56BD@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> References: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net>, <4A9E75E0.9050403@imf.au.dk>, <090220092112.8562.4A9EDFC700066DC10000217222230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> <4A9ED351.23395.2FE56BD@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> Message-ID: <4A9F0643.304@att.net> hh wrote: >> Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: >> >>>>> I'm attempting to produce formulae some of which have large >>>>> angle brackets as delimiters. Some of these should be, say, 9 >>>>> lines tall. But, when pdfeTeX renders them, none are a full >>>>> three lines tall. Other delimiters (parentheses, brackets, and >>>>> braces), large and small, are rendering fine. >>>> minimal example please >>> >>> Here's the first formula for which there is a problem: >>> >>> \begin{equation} >>> \left\langle \begin{matrix}\overline{{B_{1}\;\subseteq\; >>> C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{3}\right)}}\;\forall B_{3}\\ >>> \vee\\ >>> \left\{ \begin{matrix}\left[B_{1}\;\subseteq\; >>> C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{4}\right)\right]\\ >>> \vee\\ >>> \overline{{B_{2}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; >>> B_{4}\right)}}\end{matrix}\right\} \forall >>> B_{4}\end{matrix}\right\rangle \forall\left(B_{1},B_{2}\right) >>> \end{equation} > it seems that the command \left\lange and \right\rangle can produce bigger > brackets, but not indefinitely (as e.g. "\left\{" can). In the (old, from 1991) > book from Schwarz, Einfuehrung in TeX, only > "(, \{, \Vert, \lgroup and [" > are mentioned as growing. In your case this even does not allow the use of > \langle+\rangle, because they do not even cover 3 baselineskips. > > Even the use of the \matrix command seems unreasonable. > > I tried the building of the formula with "array" and the "rput" command of > pstricks. The outcome (below) looks a bit curious and might need some > better finish. See also the attachment (ps- and pdf-file). But it gives the idea. > > { > \thinmuskip=4mu % author wants wider spaces in math formula > \medmuskip=6mu plus 2mu minus 2mu > \thickmuskip=10mu plus 5mu > %needs \usepackage{pstricks} > > \noindent > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > \begin{equation} > \left\Vert > \begin{array}{@{\hspace{1mm}}l @{\hspace{1mm}} l @{\hspace{2mm}}l > @{}} > &\hphantom{\mathopen [}\overline{B_1\subseteq C(B_1\cup B_2\cup > B_3)}{} \,\, \forall B_3\\ > &\hfil\vee\\ > &\mathopen [B_1\subseteq C(B_1\cup B_2\cup B_4) \mathclose]\\ > \rput[l](0,0){\left\{ \vrule height 8mm depth 0pt width0pt\right.}\,& \hfil\vee& > \rput[l](-1,0){\left. \vrule height 8mm depth 0pt width0pt\right\} \forall B_4}\,\\ > &\hphantom{\mathopen [}\overline{B_2\subseteq C(B_1\cup B_2\cup B_4)} > \end{array} > \right\Vert > \forall(B_1,B_2) > \end{equation} > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Thank you for the information and for the suggested response. In the context of the former, I think that I should simply remove the angle brackets from the hierarchy of delimiters; use of the vrule or any other new delimiter is likely to confuse my readers. From asnd at triumf.ca Thu Sep 3 03:22:49 2009 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 02 Sep 2009 18:22:49 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets In-Reply-To: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> References: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> Message-ID: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," writes: > I'm attempting to produce formulae some of which have large angle brackets > as delimiters. Some of these should be, say, 9 lines tall. You should try package yhmath -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From hh-brasil at bol.com.br Thu Sep 3 01:19:29 2009 From: hh-brasil at bol.com.br (hh) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:19:29 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets In-Reply-To: <090220092112.8562.4A9EDFC700066DC10000217222230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> References: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net>, <4A9E75E0.9050403@imf.au.dk>, <090220092112.8562.4A9EDFC700066DC10000217222230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> Message-ID: <4A9ED351.23395.2FE56BD@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> Hello, it seems that the command \left\lange and \right\rangle can produce bigger brackets, but not indefinitely (as e.g. "\left\{" can). In the (old, from 1991) book from Schwarz, Einfuehrung in TeX, only "(, \{, \Vert, \lgroup and [" are mentioned as growing. In your case this even does not allow the use of \langle+\rangle, because they do not even cover 3 baselineskips. Even the use of the \matrix command seems unreasonable. I tried the building of the formula with "array" and the "rput" command of pstricks. The outcome (below) looks a bit curious and might need some better finish. See also the attachment (ps- and pdf-file). But it gives the idea. { \thinmuskip=4mu % author wants wider spaces in math formula \medmuskip=6mu plus 2mu minus 2mu \thickmuskip=10mu plus 5mu %needs \usepackage{pstricks} \noindent xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx \begin{equation} \left\Vert \begin{array}{@{\hspace{1mm}}l @{\hspace{1mm}} l @{\hspace{2mm}}l @{}} &\hphantom{\mathopen [}\overline{B_1\subseteq C(B_1\cup B_2\cup B_3)}{} \,\, \forall B_3\\ &\hfil\vee\\ &\mathopen [B_1\subseteq C(B_1\cup B_2\cup B_4) \mathclose]\\ \rput[l](0,0){\left\{ \vrule height 8mm depth 0pt width0pt\right.}\,& \hfil\vee& \rput[l](-1,0){\left. \vrule height 8mm depth 0pt width0pt\right\} \forall B_4}\,\\ &\hphantom{\mathopen [}\overline{B_2\subseteq C(B_1\cup B_2\cup B_4)} \end{array} \right\Vert \forall(B_1,B_2) \end{equation} xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx } With best regards hh From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," To: Lars Madsen Date sent: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:12:40 +0000 Copies to: texhax at tug.org Subject: Re: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets > Lars Madsen wrote: > > > Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > > > >> I'm attempting to produce formulae some of which have large angle > >> brackets as delimiters. Some of these should be, say, 9 lines tall. > >> But, when pdfeTeX renders them, none are a full three lines tall. > >> Other delimiters (parentheses, brackets, and braces), large and > >> small, are rendering fine. > >> > >> I'm using packages graphicx, latexsym, amsmath, amssymb. > > > > >> Thanks in advance for whatever help might be offered. > > > > minimal example please > > Here's the first formula for which there is a problem: > > \begin{equation} > \left\langle \begin{matrix}\overline{{B_{1}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{3}\right)}}\;\forall B_{3}\\ > \vee\\ > \left\{ \begin{matrix}\left[B_{1}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{4}\right)\right]\\ > \vee\\ > \overline{{B_{2}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{4}\right)}}\end{matrix}\right\} \forall B_{4}\end{matrix}\right\rangle \forall\left(B_{1},B_{2}\right) > \end{equation} > > > some fonts provide building blocks for creating large delimiters, but > > since \lvert and \rvert are sloped, that cannot be present in the font, > > so pdflatex may be right in refusing to go that large. > > > > I would refrase this equation, as a 9-lined equation is already very > > hard to read. > > These formulae aren't generally equations, and restating them to reduce the number of lines would generally be impracticable (given other constraints) or in fact reduce their readabilitiy. > > > Otherwise draw the delimiter using, say tikz > > I cannot tell the publisher to install further software. If I cannot get taller angle brackets from pdflatex, then I will need to fall back to using fewer distinct delimiters (which will make it harder for the reader to parse the formulae). > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org -------------- Enclosure number 1 ---------------- * This message contains the file 'main.ps', which has been * uuencoded. 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Works out fine. Anf if you look up the symbols-A4.pdf (see CTAN) there are some more possibilities for large brackets (Table 142ff). hh From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," To: Lars Madsen Date sent: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:12:40 +0000 Copies to: texhax at tug.org Subject: Re: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets > Lars Madsen wrote: > > > Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > > > >> I'm attempting to produce formulae some of which have large angle > >> brackets as delimiters. Some of these should be, say, 9 lines tall. > >> But, when pdfeTeX renders them, none are a full three lines tall. > >> Other delimiters (parentheses, brackets, and braces), large and > >> small, are rendering fine. > >> > >> I'm using packages graphicx, latexsym, amsmath, amssymb. > > > > >> Thanks in advance for whatever help might be offered. > > > > minimal example please > > Here's the first formula for which there is a problem: > > \begin{equation} > \left\langle \begin{matrix}\overline{{B_{1}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{3}\right)}}\;\forall B_{3}\\ > \vee\\ > \left\{ \begin{matrix}\left[B_{1}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{4}\right)\right]\\ > \vee\\ > \overline{{B_{2}\;\subseteq\; C\left(B_{1}\;\cup\; B_{2}\;\cup\; B_{4}\right)}}\end{matrix}\right\} \forall B_{4}\end{matrix}\right\rangle \forall\left(B_{1},B_{2}\right) > \end{equation} > > > some fonts provide building blocks for creating large delimiters, but > > since \lvert and \rvert are sloped, that cannot be present in the font, > > so pdflatex may be right in refusing to go that large. > > > > I would refrase this equation, as a 9-lined equation is already very > > hard to read. > > These formulae aren't generally equations, and restating them to reduce the number of lines would generally be impracticable (given other constraints) or in fact reduce their readabilitiy. > > > Otherwise draw the delimiter using, say tikz > > I cannot tell the publisher to install further software. If I cannot get taller angle brackets from pdflatex, then I will need to fall back to using fewer distinct delimiters (which will make it harder for the reader to parse the formulae). > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org From daleif at imf.au.dk Thu Sep 3 10:38:56 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:38:56 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets In-Reply-To: <090220092112.8562.4A9EDFC700066DC10000217222230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> References: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> <4A9E75E0.9050403@imf.au.dk> <090220092112.8562.4A9EDFC700066DC10000217222230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> Message-ID: <4A9F80A0.3000702@imf.au.dk> > >> Otherwise draw the delimiter using, say tikz > > I cannot tell the publisher to install further software. If I cannot get taller angle brackets from pdflatex, then I will need to fall back to using fewer distinct delimiters (which will make it harder for the reader to parse the formulae). > it is a package for LaTeX that have been round for quite a while not -- /daleif From daleif at imf.au.dk Thu Sep 3 10:39:02 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:39:02 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Under-Sized Angle Brackets In-Reply-To: <090220092112.8562.4A9EDFC700066DC10000217222230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> References: <090220090705.2204.4A9E1947000EDCFD0000089C22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> <4A9E75E0.9050403@imf.au.dk> <090220092112.8562.4A9EDFC700066DC10000217222230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E029D0A07B5D30CB3@att.net> Message-ID: <4A9F80A6.2080308@imf.au.dk> > >> Otherwise draw the delimiter using, say tikz > > I cannot tell the publisher to install further software. If I cannot get taller angle brackets from pdflatex, then I will need to fall back to using fewer distinct delimiters (which will make it harder for the reader to parse the formulae). > it is a package for LaTeX that have been round for quite a while now -- /daleif From mohamed.houssni at e-press.co.ma Thu Sep 3 15:13:40 2009 From: mohamed.houssni at e-press.co.ma (Mohamed HOUSSNI) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:13:40 +0000 Subject: [texhax] hypertext link Message-ID: <4A9FC104.1030400@e-press.co.ma> Dear list, I am using hyperref package to generate hypertext link in my PDF file (via latex ---> dvips ---> Distiller) but the vicinity which can I click is not to wide. Please is there someone to help me resolve this problem to insert a latex command to increase neighbourhood. Thanks a lot ------------------- Dr. Mohamed Houssni From mohamed.houssni at e-press.co.ma Fri Sep 4 10:47:52 2009 From: mohamed.houssni at e-press.co.ma (Mohamed HOUSSNI) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:47:52 +0000 Subject: [texhax] [Fwd: hypertext link] Message-ID: <4AA0D438.7070604@e-press.co.ma> Please is there an answer to my problem -------- Message original -------- Sujet: [texhax] hypertext link Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:13:40 +0000 De: Mohamed HOUSSNI Pour: TeX mailing list , support at tug.org Dear list, I am using hyperref package to generate hypertext link in my PDF file (via latex ---> dvips ---> Distiller) but the vicinity which can I click is not to wide. Please is there someone to help me resolve this problem to insert a latex command to increase neighbourhood. Thanks a lot ------------------- Dr. Mohamed Houssni _______________________________________________ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ More links: http://tug.org/begin.html Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org -- ------------------- Dr. Mohamed Houssni Responsable d'Edition e-Press, 34, Rue Mustapha El Manfalouti Quartier Gauthier Casablanca - Maroc Phone : 212 (0)522 26 23 21 Fax : 212 (0)522 26 80 84 From uwe.lueck at web.de Fri Sep 4 11:31:49 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:31:49 +0200 Subject: [texhax] hypertext link In-Reply-To: <4A9FC104.1030400@e-press.co.ma> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090904112556.0262c4c0@pop3.web.de> At 15:13 03.09.09, Mohamed HOUSSNI wrote: >I am using hyperref package to generate hypertext link in my PDF file (via >latex ---> dvips ---> Distiller) but the vicinity which can I click is not >to wide. The wording reminds me much of >\autoref{label} >This is a replacement for the usual \ref command that places a contextual >label in front of the reference. This gives your users a bigger target to >click for hyperlinks (e.g. section 2 instead of merely the number 2 ). in Section 4 of hyperref/manual.pdf or its tug.org HTML version http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/manual.html#x1-120004 while I don't understand it entirely, not tried, just read the manual a second, more intensive time, having problems with hyperref myself. Hope F1 -- Uwe. At 15:13 03.09.09, Mohamed HOUSSNI wrote: >Dear list, > >I am using hyperref package to generate hypertext link in my PDF file (via >latex ---> dvips ---> Distiller) but the vicinity which can I click is not >to wide. > >Please is there someone to help me resolve this problem to insert a >latex command to increase neighbourhood. > >Thanks a lot > > > >------------------- >Dr. Mohamed Houssni From vafa at users.berlios.de Fri Sep 4 11:46:56 2009 From: vafa at users.berlios.de (Vafa Khalighi) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 19:46:56 +1000 Subject: [texhax] [Fwd: hypertext link] In-Reply-To: <4AA0D438.7070604@e-press.co.ma> References: <4AA0D438.7070604@e-press.co.ma> Message-ID: <605202f20909040246s2a25cc67x6afe71ce5a35e884@mail.gmail.com> Could I suggest that if you can, then please send a sample file (tex input and its pdfoutput) so that we can understand your issue and perhaps someone will eventually help? 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Here is an excerpt from the ifsym.sty file (if it helps): % miscellaneous symbols \DeclareOption{misc}{% \newcommand{\Letter}{\textifsymbol{0}} \newcommand{\Telephone}{\textifsymbol{40}} \newcommand{\SectioningDiamond}{\textifsymbol{1}} \newcommand{\FilledSectioningDiamond}{\textifsymbol{2}} \newcommand{\PaperPortrait}{\textifsymbol{3}} \newcommand{\PaperLandscape}{\textifsymbol{4}} \newcommand{\Cube}[1]{\setcounter{ifsymcnt}{#1+4}\textifsymbol {\value{ifsymcnt}}} \newcommand{\Irritant}{\textifsymbol{11}} \newcommand{\Fire}{\textifsymbol{12}} \newcommand{\Radiation}{\textifsymbol{14}} \newcommand{\StrokeOne}{\textifsymbol{58}} \newcommand{\StrokeTwo}{\textifsym{::}} \newcommand{\StrokeThree}{\textifsym{:::}} \newcommand{\StrokeFour}{\textifsym{::::}} \newcommand{\StrokeFive}{\textifsymbol{59}} } Here is a simple .tex file that I am using to create the symbol. \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{ifsym} \usepackage{amsmath} \title{Testing the ifsym package} \author{Aaron} \date{} \begin{document} \maketitle \StrokeOne %Testing the \StrokeOne symbol from ifsym \end{document} If anyone is able to help me out. I'd much appreciate it. Aaron A.L. MARTIN From Susan.Dittmar at gmx.de Fri Sep 4 15:55:02 2009 From: Susan.Dittmar at gmx.de (Susan Dittmar) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:55:02 +0200 Subject: [texhax] ifsym issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090904135502.GB21230@eureca.de> Hi Aaron, thanks for the clarification! > % miscellaneous symbols > \DeclareOption{misc}{% that's already the point you missed, you need to *use* that option to profit from it. See below. > \documentclass[11pt]{article} > \usepackage{ifsym} \usepackage[misc]{ifsym} > \usepackage{amsmath} > > \title{Testing the ifsym package} > \author{Aaron} > \date{} > > \begin{document} > \maketitle > > \StrokeOne %Testing the \StrokeOne symbol from ifsym > > \end{document} With this change your example works for me. Susan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For example on the page 107 I have a problem to easy catch the links for references. If I would do that I have to be very patient. Best regards Vafa Khalighi a ?crit : > Could I suggest that if you can, then please send a sample file (tex > input and its pdfoutput) so that we can understand your issue and > perhaps someone will eventually help? > > Best wishes, > Vafa -- ------------------- Dr. Mohamed Houssni Responsable d'Edition e-Press, 34, Rue Mustapha El Manfalouti Quartier Gauthier Casablanca - Maroc Phone : 212 (0)522 26 23 21 Fax : 212 (0)522 26 80 84 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: sample.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 244771 bytes Desc: not available URL: From garces at math.admu.edu.ph Sun Sep 6 19:40:55 2009 From: garces at math.admu.edu.ph (I.J.L. Garces) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:40:55 +0800 Subject: [texhax] page number on the first page of the index Message-ID: <20090907014055.16616lgsj5cqk2kg@mail.ateneo.net> Hello! Asking for help again. I am using makeidx and tocbibind packages, and my document also uses fancyhdr. Just right before \end{document}, I have \printindex. How can suppress the page number of the first page of the index? By default, the first page of the index has the page number at the bottom of the page. Thanks. Ian June ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Sun Sep 6 22:09:52 2009 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:09:52 +0100 Subject: [texhax] page number on the first page of the index In-Reply-To: <20090907014055.16616lgsj5cqk2kg@mail.ateneo.net> References: <20090907014055.16616lgsj5cqk2kg@mail.ateneo.net> Message-ID: <4AA41710.4080202@Rhul.Ac.Uk> I know that this doesn't answer your question (so I apologise in advance), but why would you want to suppress the printing of the page number on the first page of the index ? If you do so, how can the index meaningfully appear in the table of contents ? Philip Taylor -------- I.J.L. Garces wrote: > Hello! > > Asking for help again. > > I am using makeidx and tocbibind packages, and my document also uses > fancyhdr. Just right before \end{document}, I have \printindex. How can > suppress the page number of the first page of the index? By default, the > first page of the index has the page number at the bottom of the page. > > Thanks. > > Ian June From pierre.mackay at comcast.net Mon Sep 7 01:52:55 2009 From: pierre.mackay at comcast.net (Pierre MacKay) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:52:55 -0700 Subject: [texhax] page number on the first page of the index In-Reply-To: <4AA41710.4080202@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <20090907014055.16616lgsj5cqk2kg@mail.ateneo.net> <4AA41710.4080202@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <4AA44B57.4010407@comcast.net> On 09/06/2009 01:09 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > I know that this doesn't answer your question (so > I apologise in advance), but why would you want to > suppress the printing of the page number on the > first page of the index ? If you do so, how can > the index meaningfully appear in the table of > contents ? > The outright omission of the page number on the first page of every chapter of a book or of each article in a journal is very often requested by the presses I work with. It is more common in journals, often owing to the depth of a first-page copyright notice. The page number can still be given in the table of contents, and it does not seem to bother readers even when the first page iof an article is a recto and the preceding verso is absolutely blank. I don't see any reason for suggesting that the practice can be carried on for indices and appendices, although I confess that I can't find any specific instances on my bookshelf. Pierre MacKay From bt at phisp.irfu.se Tue Sep 8 15:08:13 2009 From: bt at phisp.irfu.se (Bo Thide') Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:08:13 +0200 (METDST) Subject: [texhax] microtype and varioref - conflict? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200909081308.n88D8DjW024390@phisp.irfu.se> Hi, I am finalising a largish textbook project, based on the memoir class, and wanted to make a final typographical touch-up by using microtype before sending the tex and/or pdf file(s) off to the publisher. For smart referencing in my books, I use the varioref package. Unfortunately, microtype does not seem to be able to coexist happily with varioref. In fact, using the two together sooner or later brings the compilation (latex, pdflatex) to a complete halt with lots of error output related to varioref functionanlity. Checking the faq and the web for any clues has not given anything. Can anybody confirm that mircrotype and varioref really function together? It is getting near submission date... Thanks in advance, Bo -- Professor Dr. Bo Thid?, Head of Programme, http://www.physics.irfu.se/~bt Address: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, P.O.Box 537, SE-75121 Uppsala Phone: Office +46 18-4715914 Mobile +46 705-613670 Home +46 18-4951801 Visiting address: ?ngstr?m Lab, Room # 84108, L?gerhyddsv?gen 1, Uppsala V?xj? address: LOIS Space Centre, SE-35195 V?xj? http://www.lois-space.net From uwe.lueck at web.de Tue Sep 8 14:04:21 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:04:21 +0200 Subject: [texhax] whitespace in ledmac 2-col footnotes In-Reply-To: <20090807121823.BRR07041@m4500-03.uchicago.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20090807145540.027f5300@pop3.web.de> <1182476322@web.de> <5.1.0.14.0.20090807145540.027f5300@pop3.web.de> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090908140209.0304c680@pop3.web.de> At 19:18 07.08.09, crebecca at uchicago.edu wrote: >If, in ledmac, I use > >\foottwocol{B} > >How do I adjust (decrease) the white space between the two columns? So >far, I >can't find instructions in the documentation or elsewhere. I do not know about white space here, may be your notes are so short that you simply prefer three footnote columns!? Anyway, do you know any work that use footnote columns before!? Best, Uwe. From uwe.lueck at web.de Tue Sep 8 14:24:38 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:24:38 +0200 Subject: [texhax] page number on the first page of the index In-Reply-To: <4AA44B57.4010407@comcast.net> References: <4AA41710.4080202@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20090907014055.16616lgsj5cqk2kg@mail.ateneo.net> <4AA41710.4080202@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090908140439.0304a990@pop3.web.de> At 01:52 07.09.09, Pierre MacKay wrote: >On 09/06/2009 01:09 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: >>I know that this doesn't answer your question (so >>I apologise in advance), but why would you want to >>suppress the printing of the page number on the >>first page of the index ? If you do so, how can >>the index meaningfully appear in the table of >>contents ? >The outright omission of the page number on the first page of every >chapter of a book or of each article in a journal is very often requested >by the presses I work with. It is more common in journals, often owing to >the depth of a first-page copyright notice. The page number can still be >given in the table of contents, and it does not seem to bother readers >even when the first page iof an article is a recto and the preceding verso >is absolutely blank. I don't see any reason for suggesting that the >practice can be carried on for indices and appendices, although I confess >that I can't find any specific instances on my bookshelf. Finding books on bookshelves with missing folio on starting pages of chapters is not so difficult. E.g., an old LaTeX Companion of this kind is lying near me. Hey, even its Index ...! After looking up the page number in the TOC, a reader needs page numbers to see whether to turn forwards or backwards. When the starting page of a chapter or index is found, the title serves for confirming that the reader found what she looked for. Some personality disorder may be needed for still looking for the folio, wondering "Is this really the same index I was looking for?" Cheers, Uwe L. From cbill.lam at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 15:39:39 2009 From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:39:39 +0800 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox Message-ID: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> Hi, I got some troubles in aligning bill-to and delivery-to box in a invoice heading. I attach a sample source and the pdf output. My problems are 1. I guess the letter 'p' in "Ship" has a descender that make the frame lower than that of the left because "To" got no descenders. 2. When the content is empty such as the last fbox, its height is smaller than that of the first two box. I also tried specified a height for fbox but no avail. I want to known how to make all these 3 fbox to be exact the same height and aligns to each other. Thanks in advance. % papersize, size of letters \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage[english]{babel} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage{geometry} \geometry{left=1cm,top=1.5cm} % do not set pagenumbers \usepackage{nopageno} \begin{document} \begin{minipage}[t]{\textwidth} \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% \bf To:\\ \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% Mr. No Name \\ Door No. \\ Street \\ City}}} \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% \bf Ship To:\\ \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% Mr. No Name \\ Door No. \\ Street \\ City}}} \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% \bf ~ \\ \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% ~ \\ ~ \\ ~ \\ ~ }}} \end{minipage} \end{document} -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: t6.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 7337 bytes Desc: not available URL: From uwe.lueck at web.de Tue Sep 8 15:04:30 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:04:30 +0200 Subject: [texhax] [Fwd: hypertext link] In-Reply-To: <4AA119A1.6040001@e-press.co.ma> References: <605202f20909040246s2a25cc67x6afe71ce5a35e884@mail.gmail.com> <4AA0D438.7070604@e-press.co.ma> <605202f20909040246s2a25cc67x6afe71ce5a35e884@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090908142714.0304cc10@pop3.web.de> At 15:44 04.09.09, Mohamed HOUSSNI wrote: >thank for your answer. I joined a PDF sample for best understanding the >problem. >For example on the page 107 I have a problem to easy catch the links for >references. If I would do that I have to be very patient. Apart from how to implement this, the question would be how to define larger "vicinities" ("targets"), since the reference numbers stand so close. Personally I don't have problems with so small targets usually, but I have just tried an Acrobate Reader where the "hand tool" turns into a "finger tool" in a really difficult way. On another installation I have a reader that is not that difficult. In single cases you could choose larger targets manually using the optional argument of \hyperref ... may need knowledge of the package you are using for references and some time (real work). And the result would probably unavoidedly be a corresponding larger blue area that would look bad. I can't help -- Uwe. From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Tue Sep 8 15:43:38 2009 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:43:38 +0100 Subject: [texhax] page number on the first page of the index In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20090908140439.0304a990@pop3.web.de> References: <4AA41710.4080202@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20090907014055.16616lgsj5cqk2kg@mail.ateneo.net> <4AA41710.4080202@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20090908140439.0304a990@pop3.web.de> Message-ID: <4AA65F8A.9010608@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Uwe L?ck wrote: > Finding books on bookshelves with missing folio on starting pages of > chapters is not so difficult. E.g., an old LaTeX Companion of this kind > is lying near me. Hey, even its Index ...! > > After looking up the page number in the TOC, a reader needs page numbers > to see whether to turn forwards or backwards. When the starting page of > a chapter or index is found, the title serves for confirming that the > reader found what she looked for. Some personality disorder may be > needed for still looking for the folio, wondering "Is this really the > same index I was looking for?" A personality disorder ? From my perspective, the concept of omitting page numbers on opening chapter pages is insane. If every opening chapter/section/whatever page number is omitted, the table of contents becomes a farce, since : a) No page number that appears in the T-O-C can be found on an actual page b) No page number that appears on an actual page can be found in the T-O-C What is this lunacy ? Philip Taylor From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Tue Sep 8 16:04:13 2009 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:04:13 +0100 Subject: [texhax] [Fwd: hypertext link] In-Reply-To: <4AA119A1.6040001@e-press.co.ma> References: <4AA0D438.7070604@e-press.co.ma> <605202f20909040246s2a25cc67x6afe71ce5a35e884@mail.gmail.com> <4AA119A1.6040001@e-press.co.ma> Message-ID: <4AA6645D.9090702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> I can see the problem (at first sight, there are no hyperlinks at all, and then one realises that they are vanishingly small) but without source it is difficult to make suggestions. Could you please post the source of your "sample.pdf" ? Philip Taylor -------- Mohamed HOUSSNI wrote: > thank for your answer. I joined a PDF sample for best understanding the > problem. > For example on the page 107 I have a problem to easy catch the links for > references. If I would do that I have to be very patient. From john at wexfordpress.com Tue Sep 8 16:14:26 2009 From: john at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:14:26 -0400 Subject: [texhax] page number on the first page of the index In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20090908140439.0304a990@pop3.web.de> References: <4AA41710.4080202@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20090908140439.0304a990@pop3.web.de> Message-ID: <200909081014.26300.john@wexfordpress.com> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 08:24:38 Uwe L?ck wrote: > At 01:52 07.09.09, Pierre MacKay wrote: > >On 09/06/2009 01:09 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > >>I know that this doesn't answer your question (so > >>I apologise in advance), but why would you want to > >>suppress the printing of the page number on the > >>first page of the index ? If you do so, how can > >>the index meaningfully appear in the table of > >>contents ? > > > >The outright omission of the page number on the first page of every > >chapter of a book or of each article in a journal is very often requested > >by the presses I work with. It is more common in journals, often owing to > >the depth of a first-page copyright notice. The page number can still be > >given in the table of contents, and it does not seem to bother readers > >even when the first page iof an article is a recto and the preceding verso > >is absolutely blank. I don't see any reason for suggesting that the > >practice can be carried on for indices and appendices, although I confess > >that I can't find any specific instances on my bookshelf. > > Finding books on bookshelves with missing folio on starting pages of > chapters is not so difficult. E.g., an old LaTeX Companion of this kind is > lying near me. Hey, even its Index ...! > > After looking up the page number in the TOC, a reader needs page numbers to > see whether to turn forwards or backwards. When the starting page of a > chapter or index is found, the title serves for confirming that the reader > found what she looked for. Some personality disorder may be needed for > still looking for the folio, wondering "Is this really the same index I was > looking for?" > > Cheers, > > Uwe L. I recently read a novel where the publisher only put running heads and page numbers on every other page. I think they were the rectos but not sure now. Possibly it was a mistake. Or as we used to say, it's not a bug--- it's a feature. -- John Culleton "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html From uwe.lueck at web.de Tue Sep 8 16:28:47 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:28:47 +0200 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090908162650.0263ba60@pop3.web.de> Put \vphantom{p} into the first line of the first and third \parbox -- Uwe. At 15:39 08.09.09, bill lam wrote: >Hi, > >I got some troubles in aligning bill-to and delivery-to box in a >invoice heading. I attach a sample source and the pdf output. My >problems are > >1. I guess the letter 'p' in "Ship" has a descender that make the > frame lower than that of the left because "To" got no descenders. > >2. When the content is empty such as the last fbox, its height is > smaller than that of the first two box. I also tried specified a > height for fbox but no avail. > >I want to known how to make all these 3 fbox to be exact the same >height and aligns to each other. Thanks in advance. > > >% papersize, size of letters >\documentclass[a4paper]{article} >\usepackage[english]{babel} >\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} >\usepackage{geometry} >\geometry{left=1cm,top=1.5cm} >% do not set pagenumbers >\usepackage{nopageno} > >\begin{document} >\begin{minipage}[t]{\textwidth} > \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% > \bf To:\\ > \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% > Mr. No Name \\ > Door No. \\ > Street \\ > City}}} > \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% > \bf Ship To:\\ > \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% > Mr. No Name \\ > Door No. \\ > Street \\ > City}}} > \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% > \bf ~ \\ > \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% > ~ \\ > ~ \\ > ~ \\ > ~ }}} >\end{minipage} > >\end{document} > > >-- >regards, >==================================================== >GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 >gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > >_______________________________________________ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ >More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > >Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax >Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org From crebecca at uchicago.edu Tue Sep 8 16:48:24 2009 From: crebecca at uchicago.edu (crebecca at uchicago.edu) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [texhax] whitespace in ledmac 2-col footnotes In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20090908140209.0304c680@pop3.web.de> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20090807145540.027f5300@pop3.web.de> <1182476322@web.de> <5.1.0.14.0.20090807145540.027f5300@pop3.web.de> <5.1.0.14.0.20090908140209.0304c680@pop3.web.de> Message-ID: <20090908094824.BSQ14685@m4500-03.uchicago.edu> Hi Uwe and everyone: I've sent a longer reply to Uwe offlist, but yes, narrow-alley, 2-col commentary note format (flush left for short glosses) is standard for Shakespeare critical editions; my dissertation director uses this format. My own editorial project isn't Shakespeare (literally and figuratively), but the notes are complicated in the Shakespearean direction (more textual criticism to address, more knowledge accumulating for commentary). Rebecca ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:04:21 +0200 >From: Uwe L?ck >Subject: Re: [texhax] whitespace in ledmac 2-col footnotes >To: , texhax at tug.org > >At 19:18 07.08.09, crebecca at uchicago.edu wrote: >>If, in ledmac, I use >> >>\foottwocol{B} >> >>How do I adjust (decrease) the white space between the two columns? So >>far, I >>can't find instructions in the documentation or elsewhere. > >I do not know about white space here, may be your notes are so short that >you simply prefer three footnote columns!? > >Anyway, do you know any work that use footnote columns before!? > >Best, > > Uwe. > >_______________________________________________ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ >More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > >Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax >Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org -------------------------- Rebecca Chung crebecca at uchicago.edu if you receive this message in error, please notify crebecca at uchicago.edu and support at uchicago.edu From cbill.lam at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 16:55:06 2009 From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:55:06 +0800 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20090908162650.0263ba60@pop3.web.de> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <5.1.0.14.0.20090908162650.0263ba60@pop3.web.de> Message-ID: <20090908145506.GA7027@debian.b2j> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009, Uwe L?ck wrote: > Put \vphantom{p} into the first line of the first and third \parbox -- Uwe. Pardon me for being dense. Could you kindly show me how to do that with the sample source? -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 From daleif at imf.au.dk Tue Sep 8 17:11:53 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:11:53 +0200 Subject: [texhax] microtype and varioref - conflict? In-Reply-To: <200909081308.n88D8DjW024390@phisp.irfu.se> References: <200909081308.n88D8DjW024390@phisp.irfu.se> Message-ID: <4AA67439.9030206@imf.au.dk> Bo Thide' wrote: > Hi, > > I am finalising a largish textbook project, based on the memoir class, > and wanted to make a final typographical touch-up by using microtype before > sending the tex and/or pdf file(s) off to the publisher. > > For smart referencing in my books, I use the varioref package. > Unfortunately, microtype does not seem to be able to coexist happily > with varioref. In fact, using the two together sooner or later brings > the compilation (latex, pdflatex) to a complete halt with lots of > error output related to varioref functionanlity. > > Checking the faq and the web for any clues has not given anything. > Can anybody confirm that mircrotype and varioref really function > together? > > It is getting near submission date... > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bo > minimal example please. I use both in a large project without major problems. -- /daleif From daleif at imf.au.dk Tue Sep 8 17:16:27 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:16:27 +0200 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <4AA6754B.8070804@imf.au.dk> bill lam wrote: > Hi, > > I got some troubles in aligning bill-to and delivery-to box in a > invoice heading. I attach a sample source and the pdf output. My > problems are > > 1. I guess the letter 'p' in "Ship" has a descender that make the > frame lower than that of the left because "To" got no descenders. > use a \strut to make them both desend equal amounts > 2. When the content is empty such as the last fbox, its height is > smaller than that of the first two box. I also tried specified a > height for fbox but no avail. > read up on minipage and \parbox they can actually take three optional arguments. But if the contents is dynamic, then you will need to do some measuring in the background to find the biggest height and then use that to specify the height of the \parbox > I want to known how to make all these 3 fbox to be exact the same > height and aligns to each other. Thanks in advance. > > > % papersize, size of letters > \documentclass[a4paper]{article} > \usepackage[english]{babel} > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} > \usepackage{geometry} > \geometry{left=1cm,top=1.5cm} > % do not set pagenumbers > \usepackage{nopageno} > > \begin{document} > \begin{minipage}[t]{\textwidth} > \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% > \bf To:\\ > \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% > Mr. No Name \\ > Door No. \\ > Street \\ > City}}} > \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% > \bf Ship To:\\ > \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% > Mr. No Name \\ > Door No. \\ > Street \\ > City}}} > \parbox[t]{.31\textwidth}{% > \bf ~ \\ > \fbox{\parbox{.3\textwidth}{% > ~ \\ > ~ \\ > ~ \\ > ~ }}} > \end{minipage} > > \end{document} > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org -- /daleif From daleif at imf.au.dk Tue Sep 8 17:35:24 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:35:24 +0200 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <20090908145506.GA7027@debian.b2j> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <5.1.0.14.0.20090908162650.0263ba60@pop3.web.de> <20090908145506.GA7027@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <4AA679BC.9000700@imf.au.dk> bill lam wrote: > On Tue, 08 Sep 2009, Uwe L?ck wrote: >> Put \vphantom{p} into the first line of the first and third \parbox -- Uwe. > > Pardon me for being dense. Could you kindly show me how to do that > with the sample source? > change \bf To: to \bf \vphantom{p}To: -- /daleif From cbill.lam at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 17:55:56 2009 From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:55:56 +0800 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> Thanks to Lars, hh, Uwe for help. I can get a perfect alignment now. I learn latex by reading the book 'A Guide to Latex' by Kopka and Daly (the 1993 edition), There are no \vphantom or \strut mentioned in that book. I guess that are new commands introduced later. -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Tue Sep 8 21:56:19 2009 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:56:19 +0200 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <19110.46819.911185.964072@zaphod.ms25.net> On 8 September 2009 bill lam wrote: > Thanks to Lars, hh, Uwe for help. I can get a perfect alignment now. > > I learn latex by reading the book 'A Guide to Latex' by Kopka and Daly > (the 1993 edition), There are no \vphantom or \strut mentioned in that > book. I guess that are new commands introduced later. Does it describe LaTeX 2e already? If not, it's worthwhile to consider to buy a newer book. If it mentions \documentstyle instead of \documentclass, it still describes LaTeX 2.09. I'm wondering because LaTeX 2e was released in 1994. BTW, a more general solution to your problem is to write your own macro. \newcommand{\myfbox}[1]{\fbox{\vphantom{pX}#1}} Note that in this example \vphantom contains two characters, one with a descender and one with an ascender. The size of descenders might be different for letters like p, g, j, y,... but you can put them all into the argument of \vphantom if you want to be sure. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pierre.mackay at comcast.net Wed Sep 9 01:56:59 2009 From: pierre.mackay at comcast.net (Pierre MacKay) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:56:59 -0700 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <4AA6EF4B.8090607@comcast.net> On 09/08/2009 08:55 AM, bill lam wrote: > Thanks to Lars, hh, Uwe for help. I can get a perfect alignment now. > > I learn latex by reading the book 'A Guide to Latex' by Kopka and Daly > (the 1993 edition), There are no \vphantom or \strut mentioned in that > book. I guess that are new commands introduced later. > > \vphantom and \strut are basic parts of plain.tex, and go back to the 1980s, probaby even to TeX78. This is a warning not to neglect the index of the TeXbook. It is very hard to get consistent spacing in either horizontal or vertical mode if you don't have the resource of these two macros. Pierre MacKay From pierre.mackay at comcast.net Wed Sep 9 02:13:37 2009 From: pierre.mackay at comcast.net (Pierre MacKay) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:13:37 -0700 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <19110.46819.911185.964072@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> <19110.46819.911185.964072@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <4AA6F331.9000207@comcast.net> On 09/08/2009 12:56 PM, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > On 8 September 2009 bill lam wrote: > > > Thanks to Lars, hh, Uwe for help. I can get a perfect alignment now. > > > > I learn latex by reading the book 'A Guide to Latex' by Kopka and Daly > > (the 1993 edition), There are no \vphantom or \strut mentioned in that > > book. I guess that are new commands introduced later. > > Does it describe LaTeX 2e already? If not, it's worthwhile to > consider to buy a newer book. If it mentions \documentstyle instead > of \documentclass, it still describes LaTeX 2.09. I'm wondering > because LaTeX 2e was released in 1994. > > BTW, a more general solution to your problem is to write your own macro. > > \newcommand{\myfbox}[1]{\fbox{\vphantom{pX}#1}} > > Note that in this example \vphantom contains two characters, one with > a descender and one with an ascender. The size of descenders might be > different for letters like p, g, j, y,... but you can put them all > into the argument of \vphantom if you want to be sure. > > Regards, > Reinhard > > > That solution, has value as a way to make up for the lack of ascender height and descender height values in the basic TFM (you can easily add such values, on the model of the extra fontdimens in math fonts). Thus, you get a strut which is likely to be in the proportions of the font, which is not guaranteed by the plain.tex definition of \strut. Ideally, you can apply that ratio to the declared pointsize of the font, so that a strut ensures that the line containing it always covers the same vertical dimensions as the font. That way baseline skips don't give you nagging surprises. I end every footnote with such a proportioned strut. Pierre MacKay From JOrt at ResearchPoint.com Tue Sep 8 17:37:13 2009 From: JOrt at ResearchPoint.com (Jack Ort) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:37:13 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? Message-ID: Hello! I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but I have been frantically searching for information on TeX and LaTex, and whether or not it would be a good choice for designing data collection forms. Specifically these would be clinical Case Report Forms (CRFs), where patient data such as vital signs, laboratory results, etc. would need to be collected across multiple clinic visits. Typically these forms will have groups of empty boxes (with labels) for manual entry, questions with Yes/No checkboxes, lines for capturing free-text comments, and often tabular data entry sections as well. Ideally, forms could be stored in a "library" for reuse and modification as needed. Eventually these forms need to go to PDF, either for printing or for conversion to a data entry screen for a web-based data collection system. We are considering Framemaker, but the cost and learning curve are steep! If it is relevant, would be using a Windows XP system to run whatever package we choose. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help! Best regards, -Jack ************************************* www.ResearchPoint.com This electronic communication in its entirety may contain privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee named above. 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URL: From hh-brasil at bol.com.br Wed Sep 9 01:21:28 2009 From: hh-brasil at bol.com.br (hh) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:21:28 -0300 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <19110.46819.911185.964072@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j>, <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j>, <19110.46819.911185.964072@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <4AA6BCC8.31379.BB56F@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> \strut is a plain TeX command and is mentioned in the TeXbook. Works in LaTeX without problems. Dito \vphantom. %%%%%%%%% There's a way out of this dilemma, using an important idea called a "\strut". Plain TeX defines \strut to be an invisible box of width zero that extends just enough above and below the baseline so that you would need no interline glue at all if every line contained a strut. %%%%%%%%%%%%% The same is valid for hphantom and vphantom: %%%%% Even more useful than \phantom is \vphantom, which makes an invisible box whose height and depth are the same as those of the corresponding \phantom, but the width is zero. Thus, \vphantom makes a vertical strut that can increase a formula's effective height or depth. There's also \hphantom, which has the width of a \phantom, but its height and depth are zero. %%%% hh Read the old books. From: Reinhard Kotucha Date sent: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:56:19 +0200 To: bill lam Copies to: texhax , hh , Lars Madsen , Uwe.L?ck @mfe02.daimi.au.dk Subject: Re: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox Send reply to: reinhard.kotucha at web.de > On 8 September 2009 bill lam wrote: > > > Thanks to Lars, hh, Uwe for help. I can get a perfect alignment now. > > > > I learn latex by reading the book 'A Guide to Latex' by Kopka and Daly > > (the 1993 edition), There are no \vphantom or \strut mentioned in that > > book. I guess that are new commands introduced later. > > Does it describe LaTeX 2e already? If not, it's worthwhile to > consider to buy a newer book. If it mentions \documentstyle instead > of \documentclass, it still describes LaTeX 2.09. I'm wondering > because LaTeX 2e was released in 1994. > > BTW, a more general solution to your problem is to write your own macro. > > \newcommand{\myfbox}[1]{\fbox{\vphantom{pX}#1}} > > Note that in this example \vphantom contains two characters, one with > a descender and one with an ascender. The size of descenders might be > different for letters like p, g, j, y,... but you can put them all > into the argument of \vphantom if you want to be sure. > > Regards, > Reinhard > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 > Marschnerstr. 25 > D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From phil at math.wichita.edu Wed Sep 9 04:50:44 2009 From: phil at math.wichita.edu (Phil Parker) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:50:44 -0400 Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200909090400.n8940NPU001004@mfe03.daimi.au.dk> On 09/08/2009 at 10:37 AM, Jack Ort wrote: >We are considering Framemaker, but the cost and learning curve are steep! If >it is relevant, would be using a Windows XP system to run whatever package >we choose. LaTeX is free; the learning curve tends to be just as steep. I believe the MikTex distribution is designed for MSWin, complete with a typical installer. If you look at the footer of each email on this list, one of the links given is http://tug.org/begin.html , which sounds as if it might be where you want to look now. Good help is available free here and on comp.text.tex. At tug.org, one can also find links to professional consultants in case that's a better fit to your needs. LaTeX is more than capable of doing what you want. You'll have to decide if it's the best choice for your particular needs, within your specific constraints. -- Phil Parker -------------------------------------------- URL http://www.math.wichita.edu/~pparker/ Random quote: Some of my plays peter out and some pan out.---J.M. Barrie From r.turner at auckland.ac.nz Wed Sep 9 06:29:56 2009 From: r.turner at auckland.ac.nz (Rolf Turner) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:29:56 +1200 Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99448FAC-F7D5-42AF-90B0-3242F2759275@auckland.ac.nz> On 9/09/2009, at 3:37 AM, Jack Ort wrote: > > Hello! I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this > question, but I have been frantically searching for information on > TeX and LaTex, and whether or not it would be a good choice for > designing data collection forms. Specifically these would be > clinical Case Report Forms (CRFs), where patient data such as vital > signs, laboratory results, etc. would need to be collected across > multiple clinic visits. Typically these forms will have groups of > empty boxes (with labels) for manual entry, questions with Yes/No > checkboxes, lines for capturing free-text comments, and often > tabular data entry sections as well. > > Ideally, forms could be stored in a "library" for reuse and > modification as needed. > > Eventually these forms need to go to PDF, either for printing or > for conversion to a data entry screen for a web-based data > collection system. > > We are considering Framemaker, but the cost and learning curve are > steep! If it is relevant, would be using a Windows XP system to > run whatever package we choose. > > Thanks in advance to anyone who can help! Basically you can do *anything* in LaTeX. You might have to fiddle around a bit at first, especially if you are new to LaTeX, but what you want to do can be done without great sweat. Once you get a template built, it should be very easy to modify and adapt it. Producing pdf files from LaTeX input is essentially automatic. I don't know from doing things under Windoze myself, but I know that a lot of people use MikTex under Windoze and are very happy with it. Keep Lamport's book *on your desk* when you're working with LaTeX, at least initially. You can't intuit how to do things; you have to look them up (and eventually remember). There is of course a learning curve with LaTeX; how difficult you find it depends on your personal proclivities and ``where you're coming from''. Personally I found it virtually instantaneous to learn, but OTOH I cannot learn to do ***anything*** with (eeeyeuchhh!) Word, even with a gun held at my head. LaTeX has the big advantage of being toadally free. There are lots of online sources of info and tutorials. Like anything, you have know a bit about what you're looking for before these resources do you much good. There is also this very helpful mailing list --- but it is mainly useful for precisely posed problems. A question like ``how do I build a Case Report Form?'' is probably too broad and vague to illicit much in the way of useful responses. OTOH someone out there might have already built such a form and would be willing to send you the *.tex file to give you something to work from. Another advantage of LaTeX is that you have the recipe for building the form you want; the *.tex file ***is*** the recipe. There is no question of wondering ``how did they do that?'' The how is written down. Bottom line, if you've got to climb a learning curve, it might as well be the LaTeX learning curve. cheers, Rolf Turner ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ###################################################################### From axel.retif at mac.com Wed Sep 9 07:10:16 2009 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:10:16 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8 Sep, 2009, at 10:37, Jack Ort wrote: > Hello! I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this question This is definitely the right place ---or a right place at least. Also, in http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex you can find good help. > but I have been frantically searching for information on TeX and > LaTex, and whether or not it would be a good choice for designing > data collection forms. Specifically these would be clinical Case > Report Forms (CRFs), where patient data such as vital signs, > laboratory results, etc. would need to be collected across multiple > clinic visits. Typically these forms will have groups of empty > boxes (with labels) for manual entry, questions with Yes/No > checkboxes, lines for capturing free-text comments, and often > tabular data entry sections as well. > > Ideally, forms could be stored in a "library" for reuse and > modification as needed. If I understand correctly, LaTeX would be, I think, an ideal tool for this. Other responses have stressed that LaTeX has indeed a steep learning curve, but it's really worth to take the plunge. The modular approach LaTeX has with its thousands of packages makes it ideal for building a system to suit your needs. And again, if I understand correctly, the amazing datatool package, by Dr. Nicola Talbot might be a good building-block for your system. Take a look at the datatool.pdf at http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/datatool/ (I must confess, though, that I haven't use it yet, but as soon as I get a chance, I will.) I'm sure a MiKTeX ( http://www.miktex.org/ ) distribution would already have the package, and also the soon to be released TeXLive 2009 ( http://www.tug.org/ ). Best, Axel From mohamed.houssni at e-press.co.ma Wed Sep 9 12:13:04 2009 From: mohamed.houssni at e-press.co.ma (Mohamed HOUSSNI) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:13:04 +0000 Subject: [texhax] [Fwd: hypertext link] In-Reply-To: <4AA6645D.9090702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4AA0D438.7070604@e-press.co.ma> <605202f20909040246s2a25cc67x6afe71ce5a35e884@mail.gmail.com> <4AA119A1.6040001@e-press.co.ma> <4AA6645D.9090702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <4AA77FB0.4060703@e-press.co.ma> Thanks for your response. I am just using for my source file the natbib package to generate bibliography via the command \cite declared in the class file as super style. Also the options for the hyperref package are like that: \RequirePackage[dvips, unicode=true, bookmarks=true, bookmarksnumbered=false, bookmarksopen=true, pdftoolbar=true, breaklinks=true, pdfmenubar=true, pdftitle=, pdfauthor=, pdfnewwindow=true, pdfstartview={FitH 1000}, colorlinks=true, linkcolor=blue, citecolor=blue, filecolor=blue, urlcolor=blue]{hyperref} thanks a lot for your help. Philip TAYLOR a ?crit : > I can see the problem (at first sight, there are no > hyperlinks at all, and then one realises that they > are vanishingly small) but without source it is > difficult to make suggestions. Could you please > post the source of your "sample.pdf" ? > > Philip Taylor > -------- > Mohamed HOUSSNI wrote: > >> thank for your answer. I joined a PDF sample for best understanding >> the problem. >> For example on the page 107 I have a problem to easy catch the links >> for references. If I would do that I have to be very patient. > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -- ------------------- Dr. Mohamed Houssni Responsable d'Edition e-Press, 34, Rue Mustapha El Manfalouti Quartier Gauthier Casablanca - Maroc Phone : 212 (0)522 26 23 21 Fax : 212 (0)522 26 80 84 From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Wed Sep 9 12:41:00 2009 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:41:00 +0100 Subject: [texhax] [Fwd: hypertext link] In-Reply-To: <4AA77FB0.4060703@e-press.co.ma> References: <4AA0D438.7070604@e-press.co.ma> <605202f20909040246s2a25cc67x6afe71ce5a35e884@mail.gmail.com> <4AA119A1.6040001@e-press.co.ma> <4AA6645D.9090702@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <4AA77FB0.4060703@e-press.co.ma> Message-ID: <4AA7863C.9040608@Rhul.Ac.Uk> I'm sorry, but I'm not sufficiently familiar with the packages involved to be able to deduce your source from the information supplied. If you can post complete source (or provide a web link to it), I and others may be able to investigate further. Philip Taylor -------- Mohamed HOUSSNI wrote: > Thanks for your response. > > I am just using for my source file the natbib package to generate > bibliography via the command \cite declared in the class file as super > style. Also the options for the hyperref package are like that: > > > thanks a lot for your help. > > > Philip TAYLOR a ?crit : > >> I can see the problem (at first sight, there are no >> hyperlinks at all, and then one realises that they >> are vanishingly small) but without source it is >> difficult to make suggestions. Could you please >> post the source of your "sample.pdf" ? >> >> Philip Taylor From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Wed Sep 9 13:05:53 2009 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:05:53 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AA78C11.1000800@Rhul.Ac.Uk> How is it intended that these forms will be completed : using a PC (or similar) or manually (handwritten) ? Philip Taylor -------- Jack Ort wrote: > > Hello! I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but > I have been frantically searching for information on TeX and LaTex, and > whether or not it would be a good choice for designing data collection > forms. From d.billington at griffith.edu.au Wed Sep 9 08:27:09 2009 From: d.billington at griffith.edu.au (David Billington) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:27:09 +1000 Subject: [texhax] Deeply nested enumerated lists Message-ID: Hi, Is there any package which allows me to nest enumerated lists deeper than 4? Many thanks, David. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there any package which allows me to nest enumerated lists deeper > than 4? \usepackage{easylist} Best Martin From stephenmckeague at hotmail.com Wed Sep 9 22:50:44 2009 From: stephenmckeague at hotmail.com (Stephen McKeague) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 21:50:44 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Suppressing intermediary output Message-ID: Hello, I was wondering if somebody could help with a quick problem. I am using LaTeX but I think the issue lies with TeX too :-) When using latex to generate a DVI file, intermediary files (of at least log and aux) are generated. I do not have any need for these and want to know a command line option or something, which means I don't have to manually delete them every time. I know the command \nofiles prevents aux files from being generated, but can not find anything to prevent the log file from being generated. Hopefully somebody here knows the answer Thanks in advance Stephen McKeague _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Wed Sep 9 23:08:35 2009 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:08:35 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Suppressing intermediary output In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AA81953.1060402@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Stephen McKeague wrote: > I know the command \nofiles prevents aux files from being generated, but > can not find anything to prevent the log file from being generated. You can't. It is created by TeX, and there is no provision for preventing it from being created. You might (if you are sufficiently clever with your O/S) manage to get it sent to the null device, but I would not know where to start at accomplishing this. Philip Taylor From r.turner at auckland.ac.nz Wed Sep 9 23:53:21 2009 From: r.turner at auckland.ac.nz (Rolf Turner) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:53:21 +1200 Subject: [texhax] Suppressing intermediary output In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41A962D7-A43B-4EAD-A880-3E87BF3DC36D@auckland.ac.nz> On 10/09/2009, at 8:50 AM, Stephen McKeague wrote: > > Hello, I was wondering if somebody could help with a quick > problem. I am using LaTeX but I think the issue lies with TeX too :-) > > When using latex to generate a DVI file, intermediary files (of at > least log and aux) are generated. I do not have any need for these > and want to know a command line option or something, which means I > don't have to manually delete them every time. > > I know the command \nofiles prevents aux files from being > generated, but can not find anything to prevent the log file from > being generated. As has been previously pointed out, you *can't* prevent the log file from being generated, at least not without considerable difficulty. IMHO this would be unwise anyhow. Why not simply make it easy to get rid of the unwanted files? For years I have been using an alias, set in my .cshrc file: alias clean "/bin/rm -f *.aux *.log *.dvi; /bin/rm -i *.ps *.pdf" Then just typing ``clean'' cleans up everything. Notice that *.aux, *.log, and *.dvi files get zapped with no questions asked, but *.ps and *.pdf files induce prompting for confirmation of their removal. This can be adjusted according to your tastes and needs. cheers, Rolf Turner ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ###################################################################### From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 23:54:32 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:54:32 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Suppressing intermediary output In-Reply-To: <4AA81953.1060402@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4AA81953.1060402@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <4AA82418.4080808@gmail.com> Philip TAYLOR said the following at 09/09/2009 03:08 PM : > > Stephen McKeague wrote: > >> I know the command \nofiles prevents aux files from being generated, but >> can not find anything to prevent the log file from being generated. > > You can't. It is created by TeX, and there is no provision > for preventing it from being created. You might (if you > are sufficiently clever with your O/S) manage to get it > sent to the null device, but I would not know where to start > at accomplishing this. In *NIX, something like: ln -s /dev/null Presumably there's something similar in Windows, but I have no idea what it might be. And, as Stephen says, this just stops the info being written to the file (at least, it stops you from ever seeing that info). 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From cryan at binghamton.edu Wed Sep 9 15:37:55 2009 From: cryan at binghamton.edu (cryan at binghamton.edu) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090909093755.CYI19840@mpmail.binghamton.edu> I have used LaTeX to design a questionnaire for a research project. Not a clinical case report form, but a survey form to be completed by the subjects, on paper. Similar idea: fields to be filled in, checkboxes, multiple choice questions, etc. It worked. It was hard. If I had it to do over again, I'd use OpenOffice.org Writer, a typical "WYSIWYG" word processor. Also free. Also comes ready with easy pdf export. No disrespect to LaTeX of course. Been using it for a long time, though I claim no expertise. But it's not always the best/easiest/fastest way to get the job done. No single tool is. --Chris Ryan ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:37:13 -0500 >From: Jack Ort >Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? >To: texhax at tug.org > > Hello! I apologize if this is the wrong place to > ask this question, but I have been frantically > searching for information on TeX and LaTex, and > whether or not it would be a good choice for > designing data collection forms. Specifically these > would be clinical Case Report Forms (CRFs), where > patient data such as vital signs, laboratory > results, etc. would need to be collected across > multiple clinic visits. Typically these forms will > have groups of empty boxes (with labels) for manual > entry, questions with Yes/No checkboxes, lines for > capturing free-text comments, and often tabular data > entry sections as well. > > Ideally, forms could be stored in a "library" for > reuse and modification as needed. > > Eventually these forms need to go to PDF, either for > printing or for conversion to a data entry screen > for a web-based data collection system. > > We are considering Framemaker, but the cost and > learning curve are steep! If it is relevant, would > be using a Windows XP system to run whatever package > we choose. > > Thanks in advance to anyone who can help! > > Best regards, > -Jack > > ************************************* > www.ResearchPoint.com > > This electronic communication in its entirety may > contain privileged and confidential information > intended solely for the use of the addressee named > above. If you are not the intended recipient of > this communication, or the employee or agent > responsible for delivering it to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, > dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of > this message and/or attachment(s) of this > communication, is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please > immediately notify the sender by replying to this > communication or by telephone at (512) 343-1092 and > destroy this communication in its entirety. > ************************************* >________________ >_______________________________________________ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ >More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > >Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax >Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org From backer at psych.uib.no Wed Sep 9 21:58:20 2009 From: backer at psych.uib.no (Tom Backer Johnsen) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:58:20 +0200 Subject: [texhax] multicols and table Message-ID: <4AA808DC.5090200@psych.uib.no> I am working on a poster presentation where I want to have three columns in a landscape format. That is in itself simple, but I would like to include a table in the columns. I seems that the table environment does does not show and output when included in the multicols environment. Is there some kind of workaround for this problem? Tom From backer at psych.uib.no Wed Sep 9 21:37:57 2009 From: backer at psych.uib.no (Tom Backer Johnsen) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:37:57 +0200 Subject: [texhax] multicols and table Message-ID: <4AA80415.8070100@psych.uib.no> I am working on a poster presentation where I want to have three columns in a landscape format. That is in itself simple, but I would like to include a table in the columns. I seems that the table environment does does not show and output when included in the multicols environment. Is there some kind of workaround for this problem? Tom From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Thu Sep 10 11:16:17 2009 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:16:17 +1200 Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: <20090909093755.CYI19840@mpmail.binghamton.edu> References: <20090909093755.CYI19840@mpmail.binghamton.edu> Message-ID: <6330832C-34CB-40D8-A9A0-AA90875664D3@alphabyte.co.nz> On 10/09/2009, at 1:37 AM, wrote: > No disrespect to LaTeX of course. Been using it for a long time, > though I claim no expertise. But it's not always the best/easiest/ > fastest way to get the job done. No single tool is. > > --Chris Ryan > Actually, not so. As the previous posts have indicated LaTeX and Framemaker are single tool sets and get the job done. So too will a number of other tools sets such as Acrobat Pro, InDesign, Flash, etc. However those that can claim expertise can probably provide more accurate advice. Regards Alan -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From backer at psych.uib.no Thu Sep 10 13:01:16 2009 From: backer at psych.uib.no (Tom Backer Johnsen) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:01:16 +0200 Subject: [texhax] multicols and table In-Reply-To: <4AA8A310.26886.DE5DB8@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> References: <4AA808DC.5090200@psych.uib.no> <4AA8A310.26886.DE5DB8@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> Message-ID: <4AA8DC7C.3000901@psych.uib.no> hh wrote: > How about a sample? Does your table is wider than one column? > No, it is simply invisble. Tom > hh > > Date sent: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:58:20 +0200 > From: Tom Backer Johnsen > To: "texhax at tug.org" > Subject: [texhax] multicols and table > > >> I am working on a poster presentation where I want to have three columns >> in a landscape format. That is in itself simple, but I would like to >> include a table in the columns. I seems that the table environment does >> does not show and output when included in the multicols environment. Is >> there some kind of workaround for this problem? >> >> Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ >> More links: http://tug.org/begin.html >> >> Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax >> Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org >> > > > From s.schwartz at imperial.ac.uk Thu Sep 10 14:18:25 2009 From: s.schwartz at imperial.ac.uk (Steve Schwartz) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:18:25 +0100 Subject: [texhax] multicols and table In-Reply-To: <4AA808DC.5090200@psych.uib.no> References: <4AA808DC.5090200@psych.uib.no> Message-ID: <1252585105.7040.32.camel@ph-sjs-vaioz> Tom, If you read just the abstract of the multicols documentation you will learn that only page-wide floats (*-forms) can be used within multicols. Additionally, the documentation later points out that within multicols, *-ed floats never appear on the page in which they are encountered (which is really really bad news for a poster!) These were, and are, disappointing features of the otherwise useful package, particularly since LaTeX's own \twocolumn environment handles floats pretty well (though I think even it needs a fixltx2e package to keep things under control). But I would have thought for a poster you don't really need things to float, and can spend the time if necessary to put column breaks and such so as to position your table(s) where you want on the poster. Similarly, you are unlikely to need to draw on latex's captions, numbering, cross-referencing, etc. which the table environment provides. Thus I'd be inclined to simply put what you want in a tabular environment, and if desired hand-build your own captions and numbers, or an environment to do it that didn't require the ability to float. This will get you single-column tables. Anything wider would, I suspect, require you to split the page into minipages or otherwise impose the structure you want. I've not used any of the latex poster packages, maybe they are some help. Personally, I've never been convinced that latex was a very convenient way to make a poster, unless there is an awful lot of mathematics to be typeset that was intertwined with text. Steve On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 20:58 +0100, Tom Backer Johnsen wrote: > I am working on a poster presentation where I want to have three columns > in a landscape format. That is in itself simple, but I would like to > include a table in the columns. I seems that the table environment does > does not show and output when included in the multicols environment. Is > there some kind of workaround for this problem? > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ Professor Steven J Schwartz Phone: +44-(0)20-7594-7660 Head, Space & Atmospheric Physics Fax: +44-(0)20-7594-7900 The Blackett Laboratory E-mail: s.schwartz at imperial.ac.uk Imperial College London Office: Huxley 711A London SW7 2AZ, U.K. Web: www.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~sjs +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From n.talbot at uea.ac.uk Thu Sep 10 15:45:03 2009 From: n.talbot at uea.ac.uk (Dr Nicola L C Talbot) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:45:03 +0100 Subject: [texhax] multicols and table In-Reply-To: <4AA80415.8070100@psych.uib.no> References: <4AA80415.8070100@psych.uib.no> Message-ID: <4AA902DF.9080105@uea.ac.uk> Tom Backer Johnsen wrote: > I am working on a poster presentation where I want to have three columns > in a landscape format. That is in itself simple, but I would like to > include a table in the columns. I seems that the table environment does > does not show and output when included in the multicols environment. Is > there some kind of workaround for this problem? You could try the flowfram package. For example: \documentclass{a0poster} \usepackage{flowfram} \usepackage{lipsum} \NcolumnStop{3}{4in} % 3 columns with 4in high header (for the title) \title{A Poster} \author{A.N. Other} \begin{document} \begin{staticcontents}{1} \maketitle \end{staticcontents} \lipsum[1-2] \begin{table}[htbp] \caption{A Table} \centering \begin{tabular}{ll} A & 1\\ B & 2 \end{tabular} \end{table} \lipsum[3] \end{document} Regards Nicola Talbot -- web : http://theoval.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~nlct/ From mas at mylug.org Fri Sep 11 00:30:26 2009 From: mas at mylug.org (Sridhar M.A.) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:00:26 +0530 Subject: [texhax] (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: <20090909093755.CYI19840@mpmail.binghamton.edu> References: <20090909093755.CYI19840@mpmail.binghamton.edu> Message-ID: <20090910223026.GA5701@brahman> On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 09:37:55AM -0400, cryan at binghamton.edu wrote: > I have used LaTeX to design a questionnaire for a research project. > Not a clinical case report form, but a survey form to be completed > by the subjects, on paper. Similar idea: fields to be filled in, > checkboxes, multiple choice questions, etc. It worked. It was hard. > If I had it to do over again, I'd use OpenOffice.org Writer, a > typical "WYSIWYG" word processor. Also free. Also comes ready with > easy pdf export. > If you are doing it again, may I suggest that you give scribus a try. I did create a pdf form in that which was very easy. Even though I do use LaTeX for most of my work, I personally feel scribus (or something similar) is a better tool for designing forms. -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 Did you know that clones never use mirrors? -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From cryan at binghamton.edu Fri Sep 11 04:26:38 2009 From: cryan at binghamton.edu (cryan at binghamton.edu) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: <20090910223026.GA5701@brahman> References: <20090909093755.CYI19840@mpmail.binghamton.edu> <20090910223026.GA5701@brahman> Message-ID: <20090910222638.CYM92303@mpmail.binghamton.edu> I have looked at Scribus just a very little, mostly for play so far, but I'll have to keep it in mind in the future. Thanks for the suggestion. --Chris ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:00:26 +0530 >From: "Sridhar M.A." >Subject: Re: [texhax] (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? >To: texhax at tug.org > >On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 09:37:55AM -0400, cryan at binghamton.edu wrote: > > > I have used LaTeX to design a questionnaire for a research project. > > Not a clinical case report form, but a survey form to be completed > > by the subjects, on paper. Similar idea: fields to be filled in, > > checkboxes, multiple choice questions, etc. It worked. It was hard. > > If I had it to do over again, I'd use OpenOffice.org Writer, a > > typical "WYSIWYG" word processor. Also free. Also comes ready with > > easy pdf export. > > > >If you are doing it again, may I suggest that you give scribus a try. I >did create a pdf form in that which was very easy. Even though I do use >LaTeX for most of my work, I personally feel scribus (or something >similar) is a better tool for designing forms. > > >-- >Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 > Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 > >Did you know that clones never use mirrors? > -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" >________________ >signature.asc (1k bytes) >________________ >_______________________________________________ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ >More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > >Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax >Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org From juergen.goebel at eads.com Fri Sep 11 14:09:28 2009 From: juergen.goebel at eads.com (Goebel, Juergen) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:09:28 +0200 Subject: [texhax] inserting an additional frame with extra framenumber Message-ID: Hi, I'd like to insert a frame into an already distributed presentation without changing the subsequent framenumbers. So my solution shall look "frame 32 - 33 - 33a - 34 - 35" or something like this. Although I've got a rough idea to use \let\Originsertframenumber=\insertframenumber and so on I'm not able to bring it to work. So I'd appreciate it very much if someone can help me. Regards, Juergen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daleif at imf.au.dk Fri Sep 11 15:32:00 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:32:00 +0200 Subject: [texhax] microtype and varioref - conflict? Message-ID: <4AAA5150.8050701@imf.au.dk> it boils down to a problem as to how one can have oldstyle page numbers that will work with varioref and microtype Here is a minimal example \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article} \usepackage[english]{varioref} \usepackage{microtype} \usepackage[]{textcomp} \makeatletter \newcommand*{\@oldstyle}[1]{{% \oldstylenums{\number#1}}} \makeatother \pagenumbering{oldstyle} \begin{document} \section{test} \label{test} \vref{test} \end{document} -- /daleif From morten.hoegholm at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 17:50:14 2009 From: morten.hoegholm at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morten_H=F8gholm?=) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:50:14 +0200 Subject: [texhax] microtype and varioref - conflict? In-Reply-To: <4AAA5150.8050701@imf.au.dk> References: <4AAA5150.8050701@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <859ec5630909110850y9c238cepd250bc8ed49cdec6@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Lars Madsen wrote: > it boils down to a problem as to how one can have oldstyle page numbers that > will work with varioref and microtype Seems to be \vref at pagenum which contains an \edef, which I suspect really ought to be \protected at edef. Please file a bug report at the LaTeX Project site. -- Morten From daleif at imf.au.dk Fri Sep 11 19:02:10 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:02:10 +0200 Subject: [texhax] microtype and varioref - conflict? In-Reply-To: <859ec5630909110850y9c238cepd250bc8ed49cdec6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AAA5150.8050701@imf.au.dk> <859ec5630909110850y9c238cepd250bc8ed49cdec6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090911190210.71484kh4s8t8xeaa@webmail.nfit.au.dk> Quoting Morten H?gholm : > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Lars Madsen wrote: >> it boils down to a problem as to how one can have oldstyle page numbers that >> will work with varioref and microtype > > Seems to be \vref at pagenum which contains an \edef, which I suspect > really ought to be \protected at edef. > > Please file a bug report at the LaTeX Project site. > -- > Morten > ahh, nice. Will do, thanks. From tug-news at tug.org Sat Sep 12 02:40:38 2009 From: tug-news at tug.org (tug-news at tug.org) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:40:38 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Sept 2009 TUG news: TUG 2010, interview book, TeX Live, TUGboat, CTAN Message-ID: <200909120040.n8C0ecf09479@f7.net> Dear TeX users, A newsletter update after an eventful summer ... First, the upcoming TUG 2010 conference will be held in in San Francisco, California, USA, from June 28-30, 2010. We are still finalizing the exact venue, but wanted to announce the dates now that they are firm. Since 2010 is TeX's 32nd birthday, the Grand Wizard has graciously agreed to participate. In addition to Dr. Knuth, many of the other original Stanford TeX project members, including David Fuchs, John Hobby, Michael Plass, Oren Patashnik, and Tom Rokicki, plan to be present. We will be scheduling several activities for the final day (June 30), including the conference banquet, to honor the work of the Stanford TeX project and celebrate TeX's 32nd anniversary. The call for papers, registration form, and other details will be posted as soon as we know them, at: http://tug.org/tug2010/ Other TUG news: - A book of more than fifty interviews from the TUG interview corner has been produced, and is available through TUG and most likely from your favorite online bookstore as well. Any profits will go to TUG. http://tug.org/interviews/book - TeX Live 2009 is stabilizing, and production work for the full TeX Collection for 2009 is beginning. We do not have any hard release date yet, so I invite anyone who is interested to help us test; the more people who do so, the better the final release can be. http://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html - TUGboat 30:1, a regular issue, shipped to TUG members recently. The next issue, the TUG 2009 proceedings, is in preparation and should go to the printer soon. http://tug.org/TUGboat/ Finally, as the software release approaches, we would like to find more sites to become official mirrors of CTAN (the current list of CTAN mirrors is at http://www.ctan.org/mirrors). Package updates for MiKTeX and TeX Live account for a large proportion of CTAN's total traffic, and the more mirrors around the world, the less the burden on any individual host, especially the backbones. If you think you can help in this way, please see http://www.ctan.org/mirroring. Happy TeXing, Karl Berry (President) on behalf of the TUG Board http://www.tug.org/ From madduck at madduck.net Sat Sep 12 20:48:58 2009 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:48:58 +0200 Subject: [texhax] the current section in \leftmark Message-ID: <20090912184858.GA4328@lapse.rw.madduck.net> Hi folks, Have a look at the attached text document, and in particular page 6. The header talks about section 1.2, but that only starts on this page. Would it not make a whole lot more sense to have in the header the section with which the page starts, i.e. the previous section? How can I make LaTeX do that? 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Would it not make a whole lot more sense to have in the header > the section with which the page starts, i.e. the previous section? > > How can I make LaTeX do that? > > Thanks, > > > it is pretty much standard to let the headers display the current state on the page, not the one from the previous page. to change it you need to read up on how the headers are handled and in particular the difference between \left- and \rightmark /daleif From daleif at imf.au.dk Sun Sep 13 00:37:08 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:37:08 +0200 Subject: [texhax] microtype and varioref - conflict? In-Reply-To: <859ec5630909110850y9c238cepd250bc8ed49cdec6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AAA5150.8050701@imf.au.dk> <859ec5630909110850y9c238cepd250bc8ed49cdec6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AAC2294.7000607@imf.au.dk> Morten H?gholm wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Lars Madsen wrote: >> it boils down to a problem as to how one can have oldstyle page numbers that >> will work with varioref and microtype > > Seems to be \vref at pagenum which contains an \edef, which I suspect > really ought to be \protected at edef. > > Please file a bug report at the LaTeX Project site. suggested fix works. Bug report filed. /daleif From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Sun Sep 13 00:40:13 2009 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:40:13 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Using *.eps files with Latex In-Reply-To: <44ff02430907072141x5033617bp98894c5a097f42a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <266975435.108141246989212208.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <801149544.108301246989428124.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <44ff02430907072141x5033617bp98894c5a097f42a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AAC234D.1000903@yahoo.dk> Robert Wilson wrote: > This is one of my least favorite things about LaTeX. If you're using > pdftex to compile, you can use (virtually) any image type (png, jpg, > etc.) in your documents, but NOT eps. If you use the latex command in > concert with dvips or dvi2pdf, you can use eps, but nothing else. I've > never heard of anyone offering a solution supporting both eps and jpg > file types (someone please prove me wrong!). LaTeX -> dvipdfmx will let you include eps, jpg, png and pdf in the same document if you load the graphicx package with the dvipdfmx driver. \usepackage[dvipdfmx]{graphicx} From cbill.lam at gmail.com Sun Sep 13 08:27:05 2009 From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:27:05 +0800 Subject: [texhax] Using *.eps files with Latex In-Reply-To: <4AAC234D.1000903@yahoo.dk> References: <266975435.108141246989212208.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <801149544.108301246989428124.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <44ff02430907072141x5033617bp98894c5a097f42a8@mail.gmail.com> <4AAC234D.1000903@yahoo.dk> Message-ID: <20090913062705.GA5031@debian.b2j> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Martin Heller wrote: > will let you include eps, jpg, png and pdf in the same document if > you load the graphicx package with the dvipdfmx driver. > > \usepackage[dvipdfmx]{graphicx} I tried with it to use eps for pdf output. It didn't complain but the eps was invisble/not shown. -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Sun Sep 13 13:23:27 2009 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:23:27 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Using *.eps files with Latex In-Reply-To: <20090913062705.GA5031@debian.b2j> References: <266975435.108141246989212208.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <801149544.108301246989428124.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <44ff02430907072141x5033617bp98894c5a097f42a8@mail.gmail.com> <4AAC234D.1000903@yahoo.dk> <20090913062705.GA5031@debian.b2j> Message-ID: bill lam wrote: > On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Martin Heller wrote: >> will let you include eps, jpg, png and pdf in the same document if >> you load the graphicx package with the dvipdfmx driver. >> >> \usepackage[dvipdfmx]{graphicx} > > I tried with it to use eps for pdf output. It didn't complain but the > eps was invisble/not shown. > It works on my system and it should work on yours as well. Here is a test document: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[dvipdfmx]{graphicx} \begin{document} \begin{tabular}{cc} \includegraphics[width=2cm]{rose.eps}& \includegraphics[width=2cm]{rose.png}\\ \includegraphics[width=2cm]{rose.jpg}& \includegraphics[width=2cm]{rose.pdf} \end{tabular} \end{document} I used rose.eps shipping with Ghostscript to test and converted it to png, jpg and pdf: martin at nox:~/tmp/test$ epstopdf rose.eps martin at nox:~/tmp/test$ sam2p rose.eps rose.png martin at nox:~/tmp/test$ sam2p rose.eps rose.jpg martin at nox:~/tmp/test$ latex --shell-escape test.tex This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6) \write18 enabled. %&-line parsing enabled. entering extended mode (./test.tex LaTeX2e <2005/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh yphenation, arabic, farsi, croatian, ukrainian, russian, bulgarian, czech, slov ak, danish, dutch, finnish, basque, french, german, ngerman, ibycus, greek, mon ogreek, ancientgreek, hungarian, italian, latin, mongolian, norsk, icelandic, i nterlingua, turkish, coptic, romanian, welsh, serbian, slovenian, estonian, esp eranto, uppersorbian, indonesian, polish, portuguese, spanish, catalan, galicia n, swedish, ukenglish, pinyin, loaded. (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg) (./dvipdfmx.def))) (./test.aux) [1] (./test.aux) ) Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 456 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. and then martin at nox:~/tmp/test$ dvipdfmx test.dvi generates a pdf-file where all four images are visible. From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Sun Sep 13 13:38:29 2009 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:38:29 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Newbie Question: (La)TeX Good Choice for Data Collection Forms in PDF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jack Ort wrote: > > Hello! I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but > I have been frantically searching for information on TeX and LaTex, and > whether or not it would be a good choice for designing data collection > forms. Specifically these would be clinical Case Report Forms (CRFs), > where patient data such as vital signs, laboratory results, etc. would > need to be collected across multiple clinic visits. Typically these > forms will have groups of empty boxes (with labels) for manual entry, > questions with Yes/No checkboxes, lines for capturing free-text > comments, and often tabular data entry sections as well. > > Ideally, forms could be stored in a "library" for reuse and modification > as needed. > > Eventually these forms need to go to PDF, either for printing or for > conversion to a data entry screen for a web-based data collection system. I think some of the tools in the AcroTeX bundle might be useful. D.P. Story's paper might serve as a starting point. His TeX survey is an example of a pdf-form with automatic data collection. From cbill.lam at gmail.com Sun Sep 13 16:03:47 2009 From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:03:47 +0800 Subject: [texhax] Using *.eps files with Latex In-Reply-To: References: <266975435.108141246989212208.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <801149544.108301246989428124.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <44ff02430907072141x5033617bp98894c5a097f42a8@mail.gmail.com> <4AAC234D.1000903@yahoo.dk> <20090913062705.GA5031@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <20090913140347.GA4257@debian.b2j> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Martin Heller wrote: > martin at nox:~/tmp/test$ dvipdfmx test.dvi > > generates a pdf-file where all four images are visible. Thank you for detail instructions of using this method. I can also see all four images now. I didn't know it need to target dvi and tried to target pdf directly. -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 From news3 at nililand.de Sun Sep 13 16:08:04 2009 From: news3 at nililand.de (Ulrike Fischer) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:08:04 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Using *.eps files with Latex References: <266975435.108141246989212208.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <801149544.108301246989428124.JavaMail.root@zimbra> <44ff02430907072141x5033617bp98894c5a097f42a8@mail.gmail.com> <4AAC234D.1000903@yahoo.dk> Message-ID: Am Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:40:13 +0200 schrieb Martin Heller: > Robert Wilson wrote: >> This is one of my least favorite things about LaTeX. If you're using >> pdftex to compile, you can use (virtually) any image type (png, jpg, >> etc.) in your documents, but NOT eps. If you use the latex command in >> concert with dvips or dvi2pdf, you can use eps, but nothing else. I've >> never heard of anyone offering a solution supporting both eps and jpg >> file types (someone please prove me wrong!). > > LaTeX -> dvipdfmx > > will let you include eps, jpg, png and pdf in the same document if you > load the graphicx package with the dvipdfmx driver. > > \usepackage[dvipdfmx]{graphicx} eps graphics can contain complicated postscript code. You can't embed them "as is" in a pdf, the pdf-viewer would not be able to show them. You must "simplify" them with a postscript interpreter first. Neither dvipdfmx nor pdftex contain such a postscript interpreter. But both are able to call external applications to do the conversion. With pdftex you can use epstopdf or auto-pst-pdf, dvipdfmx use in miktex e.g. the miktex ghostscript as you can see in dvipdfmx.cfg: %% Use MiKTeX Ghostscript: D "mgs.exe -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sPAPERSIZE=a0 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.3 -dAutoFilterGrayImages=false -dGrayImageFilter=/FlateEncode -dAutoFilterColorImages=false -dColorImageFilter=/FlateEncode -dUseFlateCompression=true -sOutputFile=\"%o\" \"%i\" -c quit" The main problem which the on-the-fly conversion of dvipdfmx is that it done at each compilation and that you have less controll on the quality. -- Ulrike Fischer From hh-brasil at bol.com.br Sun Sep 13 11:26:14 2009 From: hh-brasil at bol.com.br (hh) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:26:14 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Using *.eps files with Latex In-Reply-To: <20090913062705.GA5031@debian.b2j> References: <266975435.108141246989212208.JavaMail.root@zimbra>, <4AAC234D.1000903@yahoo.dk>, <20090913062705.GA5031@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <4AAC9086.14675.FA697@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> Did you use e.g. Ghostscript? It can show ps or eps. And you have to produce a ps-file (dvips ***.dvi) before you can look at it. Dvi alone will show no eps-pictures. hh Date sent: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:27:05 +0800 From: bill lam To: Martin Heller Copies to: texhax at tug.org, millstadtf at gmail.com Subject: Re: [texhax] Using *.eps files with Latex > On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Martin Heller wrote: > > will let you include eps, jpg, png and pdf in the same document if > > you load the graphicx package with the dvipdfmx driver. > > > > \usepackage[dvipdfmx]{graphicx} > > I tried with it to use eps for pdf output. It didn't complain but the > eps was invisble/not shown. > > -- > regards, > ==================================================== > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org From dkermani at fit.edu Sun Sep 13 19:45:53 2009 From: dkermani at fit.edu (Donn Miller-Kermani) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:45:53 -0400 Subject: [texhax] Help with error Message-ID: I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files using PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and then when I try to compile again, I get this error Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item I have been through everything and cannot find the problem. Can someone please help? I am three months on getting this book to the publisher. Thanks so much Donn Donn Miller-Kermani, Director Women's Business Center at Florida Tech Melbourne, FL 32901 (321) 674 7006 dkermani at fit.edu http://wbc.fit.edu The Women's Business Center at Florida Tech is partially funded by a cooperative agreement with the U.S. Small Business Administration and is an outreach of the College of Business. ________________________________________ From daleif at imf.au.dk Sun Sep 13 23:02:15 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:02:15 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk> Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files using PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and then when I try to compile again, I get this error > > Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item > > I have been through everything and cannot find the problem. Can someone please help? I am three months on getting this book to the publisher. Thanks so much > > it is very hard to help without more information about your document. Have you tried taking a copy of your book, place it in a different dir, and then start to remove/outcomment stuff until the error goes away. That at least will give you a clue as to where it is located. Also that error, should have a line number attached to it. /daleif From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Sun Sep 13 23:41:24 2009 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan Litchfield) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:41:24 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk> References: <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <46721.156.62.3.23.1252878084.squirrel@webmail.ak.planet.gen.nz> It is also very difficult without knowing what packages you have used as some can cause conflicts with others, or what the publisher is and the sty files you are using. It might be helpful if you could provide the log file. Alan Lars Madsen wrote: > Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: >> I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files using >> PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and then when I >> try to compile again, I get this error >> >> Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item >> >> I have been through everything and cannot find the problem. Can someone >> please help? I am three months on getting this book to the publisher. >> Thanks so much >> >> > > it is very hard to help without more information about your document. > Have you tried taking a copy of your book, place it in a different dir, > and then start to remove/outcomment stuff until the error goes away. > That at least will give you a clue as to where it is located. > > Also that error, should have a line number attached to it. > > /daleif > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz From axel.retif at mac.com Mon Sep 14 06:52:40 2009 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:52:40 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D283AD3-FED6-47E7-A4F8-A272D8AB1A8B@mac.com> On 13 Sep, 2009, at 12:45, Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files > using PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and > then when I try to compile again, I get this error > > Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item This sounds to me as an error in the index entries or the bibliography. Check the corresponding log files for any errors (.ilg, for the index log file; and .blg, for the bibliography log file). Even after the error is fixed, LaTeX will show the error again ---you have to force LaTeX to end its run twice, even when it complains again, and then run makeindex and bibtex and then again LaTeX. I agree with previous posters that you have to provide more information. Best, Axel From dkermani at fit.edu Mon Sep 14 15:19:06 2009 From: dkermani at fit.edu (Donn Miller-Kermani) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:19:06 -0400 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: <0D283AD3-FED6-47E7-A4F8-A272D8AB1A8B@mac.com> References: <0D283AD3-FED6-47E7-A4F8-A272D8AB1A8B@mac.com> Message-ID: I will try to send those tonight. Donn Donn E. Miller-Kermani Director Women's Business Center Florida Institute of Technology 150 W. University Blvd. Melbourne, FL 32901 dkermani at fit.edu Phone: (321) 674-7006 Fax: (321) 674-7008 wbc.fit.edu Join the WBC group on FaceBook and LinkedIn Support the WBC by joining http://www.iGive.com/FITWomensBusinessCenter Learn more about the SBA's role in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act - go to www.sba.gov/recovery To download a copy of the South Florida District's Resource Guide, please visit: www.sbaguides.com and select Florida -South. The Women's Business Center is funded in part through a cooperative agreement with the U.S. Small Business Administration and is an outreach of the College of Business at Florida Tech. ?Unsubscribe: If you do not want to receive any more advertising or promotional e-mails from us, just click here ? -----Original Message----- From: Axel E. Retif [mailto:axel.retif at mac.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:53 AM To: Donn Miller-Kermani Cc: texhax at tug.org Subject: Re: [texhax] Help with error Importance: High On 13 Sep, 2009, at 12:45, Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files > using PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and > then when I try to compile again, I get this error > > Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item This sounds to me as an error in the index entries or the bibliography. Check the corresponding log files for any errors (.ilg, for the index log file; and .blg, for the bibliography log file). Even after the error is fixed, LaTeX will show the error again ---you have to force LaTeX to end its run twice, even when it complains again, and then run makeindex and bibtex and then again LaTeX. I agree with previous posters that you have to provide more information. Best, Axel From shiven_shandilya at yahoo.com Sun Sep 13 18:44:39 2009 From: shiven_shandilya at yahoo.com (Shiven Shandilya) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [texhax] Horizontal Space between figures and text Message-ID: <674229.45493.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi all, i am using pdflatex via the texmaker editor to create a pdf document with figures and text. the final output seems to have a large "horizontal" distance between the text and figures. how do i change this? the figures are inserted using wrapfig.sty please see the attached image or as uploaded at this link: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/391/horizontal.jpg thanks! --shiven -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Horizontal.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 8170 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hh-brasil at bol.com.br Mon Sep 14 02:47:47 2009 From: hh-brasil at bol.com.br (hh) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:47:47 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: <46721.156.62.3.23.1252878084.squirrel@webmail.ak.planet.gen.nz> References: , <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk>, <46721.156.62.3.23.1252878084.squirrel@webmail.ak.planet.gen.nz> Message-ID: <4AAD6883.3035.35B7608@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> PCTeX has some things which others do not have, e.g. an own table.sty. Maybe you can send me the text part where the erros does occur - 2 pages before and two pages after. hh Date sent: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:41:24 +1200 (NZST) From: "Alan Litchfield" To: "Lars Madsen" Copies to: Donn Miller-Kermani , "texhax at tug.org" Subject: Re: [texhax] Help with error Send reply to: alan at alphabyte.co.nz > It is also very difficult without knowing what packages you have used as some > can cause conflicts with others, or what the publisher is and the sty files > you are using. > > It might be helpful if you could provide the log file. > > Alan > > Lars Madsen wrote: > > Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > >> I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files using > >> PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and then when I > >> try to compile again, I get this error > >> > >> Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item > >> > >> I have been through everything and cannot find the problem. Can someone > >> please help? I am three months on getting this book to the publisher. > >> Thanks so much > >> > >> > > > > it is very hard to help without more information about your document. > > Have you tried taking a copy of your book, place it in a different dir, > > and then start to remove/outcomment stuff until the error goes away. > > That at least will give you a clue as to where it is located. > > > > Also that error, should have a line number attached to it. > > > > /daleif > > _______________________________________________ > > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > > > > > -- > Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org From vafa at users.berlios.de Mon Sep 14 03:40:51 2009 From: vafa at users.berlios.de (Vafa Khalighi) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:40:51 +1000 Subject: [texhax] Unwanted Extra Par Message-ID: <605202f20909131840m75033c38h6e332c72156d3b2e@mail.gmail.com> If I created a simple document as %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \documentclass{minimal} \makeatletter \TeXXeTstate=1 \def\equation{\beginL$$\refstepcounter{equation}} \def\endequation{\eqno \hbox{\@eqnnum}$$\endL\@ignoretrue} \makeatother \begin{document} \begin{equation} 1+1=2 \end{equation} \begin{equation} 1+1=2 \end{equation} \begin{equation} 1+1=2 \end{equation} \begin{equation} 1+1=2 \end{equation} \end{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Just the \beginL and \endL that I have put before and after $$ respectively casuses a new par between these equations. My question is, is there any way that I could remove that extra par except by having \vskip -\baselineskip? And I do not think that is a good idea for removing the extra par. Thanks -- Vafa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From texforeverything at att.net Sun Sep 13 18:20:19 2009 From: texforeverything at att.net (Stan) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:20:19 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Advanced Ligature Handling in .pl Files Message-ID: I would like to use some of TeX's (Metafont's?) smarter ligature capabilities (described under the headings "smarter ligatures" and "boundary ligatures" in the article www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb10-3/tb25knut.pdf) in fonts for which I already have .tfm files. I've successfully specified some ligatures ("ff", "fi", etc.) using what I learned from this page: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/unix/package/tex/web2c/web2c_10.html but this page does not talk about the more advanced ligature handling. (I used tftopl on the .tfm file for the font in question, added some entries to the ligtable, and then converted the .pl file back to a .tfm using pltotf. This process worked for "standard" ligatures.) I tried variations on the syntax specified in the Tugboat article, as well as on pages 316 and 317 in appendix F of The Metafont Book, but that doesn't seem to be for .pl files. Is there a way to specify the more advanced ligature handling in .pl files? Also, are there any other resources that discuss the syntax to use in .pl files? Thanks for any help. From madsmh at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 12:39:08 2009 From: madsmh at gmail.com (Mads Munch Hansen) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:39:08 +0200 Subject: [texhax] SIunitx Message-ID: <4AAE1D4C.1@gmail.com> Hello, I am having problems with the following bit of code. when I compile the document, LaTeX complains that \SI is an undefined control sequence and points to the line above \end{equation*}. I have been unable to pinpoint the source of the problem, and would be gratefull for any assistance. Thanks, Mads \begin{equation*} c_\text{Al} = \frac{\SI{0,150}{\kilo\gram}\cdot \SI{4180}{\joule\per\kilo\gram\per\kelvin} \cdot (\SI{25,2}{\celsius} - \SI{23,5}{\celsius})} {\SI{0,018}{\kilo\gram})\cdot (\SI{100}{\celsius} - \SI{25,2}{\celsius})} \end{equation*} -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk Mon Sep 14 17:47:38 2009 From: joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk (Joseph Wright) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:47:38 +0100 Subject: [texhax] SIunitx In-Reply-To: <4AAE1D4C.1@gmail.com> References: <4AAE1D4C.1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AAE659A.3000905@morningstar2.co.uk> Mads Munch Hansen wrote: > Hello, I am having problems with the following bit of code. when I > compile the document, LaTeX complains that \SI is an undefined control > sequence and points to the line above \end{equation*}. I have been > unable to pinpoint the source of the problem, and would be gratefull for > any assistance. > > Thanks, Mads > > \begin{equation*} > c_\text{Al} = \frac{\SI{0,150}{\kilo\gram}\cdot > \SI{4180}{\joule\per\kilo\gram\per\kelvin} \cdot > (\SI{25,2}{\celsius} - \SI{23,5}{\celsius})} {\SI{0,018}{\kilo\gram})\cdot > (\SI{100}{\celsius} - \SI{25,2}{\celsius})} > \end{equation*} The following works for me: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{siunitx,amsmath} \begin{document} \begin{equation*} c_\text{Al} = \frac{\SI{0,150}{\kilo\gram}\cdot \SI{4180}{\joule\per\kilo\gram\per\kelvin} \cdot (\SI{25,2}{\celsius} - \SI{23,5}{\celsius})} {\SI{0,018}{\kilo\gram})\cdot (\SI{100}{\celsius} - \SI{25,2}{\celsius})} \end{equation*} \end{document} -- Joseph Wright From pierre.mackay at comcast.net Mon Sep 14 17:59:07 2009 From: pierre.mackay at comcast.net (Pierre MacKay) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:59:07 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Advanced Ligature Handling in .pl Files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AAE684B.9030404@comcast.net> On 09/13/2009 09:20 AM, Stan wrote: > I would like to use some of TeX's (Metafont's?) smarter ligature > capabilities (described under the headings "smarter ligatures" and > "boundary ligatures" in the article > www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb10-3/tb25knut.pdf) in fonts for which I > already have .tfm files. I've successfully specified some ligatures > ("ff", "fi", etc.) using what I learned from this page: > > http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/unix/package/tex/web2c/web2c_10.html > > but this page does not talk about the more advanced ligature > handling. (I used tftopl on the .tfm file for the font in question, > added some entries to the ligtable, and then converted the .pl file > back to a .tfm using pltotf. This process worked for "standard" > ligatures.) I tried variations on the syntax specified in the Tugboat > article, as well as on pages 316 and 317 in appendix F of The Metafont > Book, but that doesn't seem to be for .pl files. > > Is there a way to specify the more advanced ligature handling in .pl > files? Also, are there any other resources that discuss the syntax to > use in .pl files? The details came out in a sort of news-letter form in the same year that DEK conceded the addition of some details to TeX. We are back, I think in the late 80s for this, and perhaps someone with a less leaky memory than I have can recall where to find a copy of this newsletter. It is associated with the designation TeX3.xxxxxx and the beginning of version control based on pi. At the moment, the best I can do is give you an example where the advanced techniques are very much in use. Most of what I did depends on the use of the slash, which causes the letter you are using in a ligature to be retained for further evaluation. That is how w(=| gets turned into an omega with three accents. The ibylig4.mf file has all the ligatures for ibycus coding. The use of the vertical bar is something that you may be able to decipher, but I grant you it is not easy, even for me after all these years. I know that this is deplorably opaque, and helps only a little. What you really need is the DEK description, and I hope someone can find you a copy. Pierre MacKay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fibr.pl Type: application/x-perl Size: 50473 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ibylig4.mf URL: From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Mon Sep 14 18:43:46 2009 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:43:46 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Advanced Ligature Handling in .pl Files In-Reply-To: <4AAE684B.9030404@comcast.net> References: <4AAE684B.9030404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4AAE72C2.6010305@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Maybe TeXmag 4.1 ? http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/digests/tex-mag/v4.n1 Philip Taylor -------- Pierre MacKay wrote: - > The details came out in a sort of news-letter form in the same year that > DEK conceded the addition of some details to TeX. We are back, I think > in the late 80s for this, and perhaps someone with a less leaky memory > than I have can recall where to find a copy of this newsletter. It is > associated with the designation TeX3.xxxxxx and the beginning of version > control based on pi. > What you really need is the DEK description, and I hope someone can find u > you a copy. > > Pierre MacKay From bnb at ams.org Mon Sep 14 20:05:04 2009 From: bnb at ams.org (Barbara Beeton) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] Advanced Ligature Handling in .pl Files Message-ID: don knuth wrote an article on virtual fonts that was published in tugboat 11:1. a scanned pdf of that article can be found at http://tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb11-1/tb27knut.pdf basically it contains an excerpt from vftovp.web with a brief introduction. it mentions the ligature mechanism, but doesn't go into details of how to use it. however, it refers to another article, by yannis haralambous, http://tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb10-3/tb25hara-latin.pdf that contains an example of using the mechanism to support the accented letters in most modern european languages. maybe that might help. -- bb ---------- Original message ---------- Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:20:19 -0500 From: Stan To: texhax at tug.org Subject: [texhax] Advanced Ligature Handling in .pl Files I would like to use some of TeX's (Metafont's?) smarter ligature capabilities (described under the headings "smarter ligatures" and "boundary ligatures" in the article www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb10-3/tb25knut.pdf) in fonts for which I already have .tfm files. I've successfully specified some ligatures ("ff", "fi", etc.) using what I learned from this page: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/unix/package/tex/web2c/web2c_10.html but this page does not talk about the more advanced ligature handling. (I used tftopl on the .tfm file for the font in question, added some entries to the ligtable, and then converted the .pl file back to a .tfm using pltotf. This process worked for "standard" ligatures.) I tried variations on the syntax specified in the Tugboat article, as well as on pages 316 and 317 in appendix F of The Metafont Book, but that doesn't seem to be for .pl files. Is there a way to specify the more advanced ligature handling in .pl files? Also, are there any other resources that discuss the syntax to use in .pl files? Thanks for any help. From uwe.lueck at web.de Mon Sep 14 20:24:49 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:24:49 +0200 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox (LaTeX vs. TeX) In-Reply-To: <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> References: <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090913064614.026423d0@pop3.web.de> At 17:55 08.09.09, bill lam wrote: >I learn latex by reading the book 'A Guide to Latex' by Kopka and Daly >(the 1993 edition), There are no \vphantom or \strut mentioned in that >book. I guess that are new commands introduced later. At 18:39 08.09.09, hh wrote: >earlier! Expanding on hh, quite to the contrary: The basic idea of LaTeX has been to /hide/ major features of TeX from users in order not to trouble them too much. LaTeX2e provides \settodepth, \settoheight, \depth, \height (see LaTeX Companion Appendix on boxes like \raisebox), but it is not clear to me whether this was meant to explain the ideas of depth, height, reference point, vertical positioning of vertical boxes to a LaTeX audience. I think p. 63 of Knuth's TeXbook is the starting point for understanding these matters. As long as you don't understand the TeX engine behind LaTeX, you may be puzzled by LaTeX very often. Did I help??? Anyway, I must stop here -- Uwe. From uwe.lueck at web.de Sun Sep 13 07:39:22 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:39:22 +0200 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <4AA679BC.9000700@imf.au.dk> References: <20090908145506.GA7027@debian.b2j> <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <5.1.0.14.0.20090908162650.0263ba60@pop3.web.de> <20090908145506.GA7027@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090913073238.02649720@pop3.web.de> At 17:35 08.09.09, Lars Madsen wrote: >bill lam wrote: >>On Tue, 08 Sep 2009, Uwe L?ck wrote: >>>Put \vphantom{p} into the first line of the first and third \parbox -- Uwe. >> >>Pardon me for being dense. Could you kindly show me how to do that >>with the sample source? > >change > >\bf To: > >to > >\bf \vphantom{p}To: To my own surprise, I notice that \vphantom is tricky in the following respect: It may cause a vertical skip, unless horizontal mode has been entered before, maybe by \leavevmode, or by /ending/ the line with \vphantom{p}. Generally, I think I should have recommended \leavevmode\mathstrut. This yields better spacing below a `p' than `\vphantom{p}'. This is not the whole story, just one hint to the fact that (documentation of) LaTeX doesn't tell you everything about LaTeX's engine TeX. Similarly: At 01:56 09.09.09, Pierre MacKay wrote: >\vphantom and \strut are basic parts of plain.tex, and go back to the >1980s, probaby even to TeX78. This is a warning not to neglect the index >of the TeXbook. It is very hard to get consistent spacing in either >horizontal or vertical mode if you don't have the resource of these two macros. ... -- Uwe. From uwe.lueck at web.de Mon Sep 14 21:55:33 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:55:33 +0200 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <19110.46819.911185.964072@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090913080133.02643850@pop3.web.de> At 21:56 08.09.09, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: >BTW, a more general solution to your problem is to write your own macro. > > \newcommand{\myfbox}[1]{\fbox{\vphantom{pX}#1}} > >Note that in this example \vphantom contains two characters, one with >a descender and one with an ascender. The size of descenders might be >different for letters like p, g, j, y,... but you can put them all >into the argument of \vphantom if you want to be sure. However, an `X' (or `l', uppercase `i', "cap height") usually is not as high as an `I' (lowercase `L', "ascender height"), see Wikipedia on `Ascender (typography)': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(typography) It is not clear to me whether this means that Reinhard's proposal is wrong, or that `h' etc. should be included in \vphantom ... an alternative: It may be a rule of thumb (please correct me) that parentheses (`(', `)') have maximum ascenders/descenders, and their depth and height sum to the celebrated design size, i.e., they are as /deep+high/ as a \quad or em-dash is /wide/. plain.tex and LaTeX use them for \mathstrut, which simply is \vphantom( (maybe better \leavevmode\mathstrut(). However, in LaTeX is just a remnant from plain.tex, only used in plain.tex's \matrix. This means (i) \myfbox{(!?)} may be higher and deeper than \myfbox{!?} (ii) you may need to adjust \fboxsep so 2\fboxsep+2\fboxrule don't exceed the leading and disturb baseline distances if \fbox{#1\mathstrut} is used inline ... Phantoms or struts of this kind are nice inside \fbox to ensure that all inline fboxes have same height and depth irrespective of content. At 02:13 09.09.09, Pierre MacKay wrote: >On 09/08/2009 12:56 PM, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: >>BTW, a more general solution to your problem is to write your own macro. >> >> \newcommand{\myfbox}[1]{\fbox{\vphantom{pX}#1}} >> >That solution, has value as a way to make up for the lack of ascender >height and descender height values in the basic TFM (you can easily add >such values, on the model of the extra fontdimens in math fonts). Thus, >you get a strut which is likely to be in the proportions of the font, >which is not guaranteed by the plain.tex definition of \strut. Ideally, >you can apply that ratio to the declared pointsize of the font, so that a >strut ensures that the line containing it always covers the same vertical >dimensions as the font. That way baseline skips don't give you nagging >surprises. \strut has height 0.7\baselineskip and depth 0.3\baselineskip, so it adds the /leading/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading to \mathstrut. It is used in tables/arrays (horizontal alignment) to get usual distance of baselines, replacing the usual line spacing mechanism described in TeXbook on p. 78ff. Pierre MacKay continued: >I end every footnote with such a proportioned strut. This final strut is automatically appended by \footnote with LaTeX as well as with plain.tex. It is not a typographical finesse, rather it is indispensable to keep baselines of adjacent footnotes properly apart, due to the usual primitive way footnotes for a column are constructed (the mechanism of TeXbook p. 78 doesn't apply, similar situation as with horizontal alignment). However, it may be considered typographical finesse to modify \footnote so the final strut is extra deep to get an extra space between footnotes, similar to positive \parskip. If you typeset long footnotes (of possibly more than one paragraph) with positive \parskip, this finesse becomes a must again. Stop -- Uwe L.. From texforeverything at att.net Tue Sep 15 01:24:11 2009 From: texforeverything at att.net (Stan) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:24:11 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Advanced Ligature Handling in .pl Files In-Reply-To: <4AAE684B.9030404@comcast.net> References: <4AAE684B.9030404@comcast.net> Message-ID: Pierre, Does the assignment of the boundary character matter much, or can it be any position that has no glyph associated to it? For example, could I say "(BOUNDARYCHAR O 200)" in the .pl of cmr10? Thanks, Stan Please note: I may have sent my original message twice. Needless to say, ignore the second one. > The details came out in a sort of news-letter form in the same year that > DEK conceded the addition of some details to TeX. We are back, I think > in the late 80s for this, and perhaps someone with a less leaky memory > than I have can recall where to find a copy of this newsletter. It is > associated with the designation TeX3.xxxxxx and the beginning of version > control based on pi. > > At the moment, the best I can do is give you an example where the > advanced techniques are very much in use. Most of what I did depends on > the use of the slash, which causes the letter you are > using in a ligature to be retained for further evaluation. That is how > w(=| gets turned into an omega with three accents. > > The ibylig4.mf file has all the ligatures for ibycus coding. The use of > the vertical bar is something that you may be able to decipher, but I > grant you it is not easy, even for me after all these years. > > I know that this is deplorably opaque, and helps only a little. What > you really need is the DEK description, and I hope someone can find you > a copy. > > Pierre MacKay From cbill.lam at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 01:28:05 2009 From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:28:05 +0800 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20090913080133.02643850@pop3.web.de> References: <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> <5.1.0.14.0.20090913080133.02643850@pop3.web.de> Message-ID: <20090914232805.GC3979@debian.b2j> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Uwe L?ck wrote: > to \mathstrut. It is used in tables/arrays (horizontal alignment) to Did you mean that using \strut or \vphantom is redundant in rows of tabular? -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 From dkermani at fit.edu Tue Sep 15 01:22:29 2009 From: dkermani at fit.edu (Donn Miller-Kermani) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:22:29 -0400 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk> References: , <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: Hi Lars I have attached all the files including the stylefiles from the publisher. The error occurs at line 8 of the bibliography which is \bibitem{cord10} I can't see anything wrong. I have been line by line through all the chapters. I am using PCTex v. 5.1. That really should not make this happen. Donn Donn Miller-Kermani, Director Women's Business Center at Florida Tech Melbourne, FL 32901 (321) 674 7006 dkermani at fit.edu http://wbc.fit.edu The Women's Business Center at Florida Tech is partially funded by a cooperative agreement with the U.S. Small Business Administration and is an outreach of the College of Business. ________________________________________ From: Lars Madsen [daleif at imf.au.dk] Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:02 PM To: Donn Miller-Kermani Cc: texhax at tug.org Subject: Re: [texhax] Help with error Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files using PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and then when I try to compile again, I get this error > > Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item > > I have been through everything and cannot find the problem. Can someone please help? I am three months on getting this book to the publisher. Thanks so much > > it is very hard to help without more information about your document. Have you tried taking a copy of your book, place it in a different dir, and then start to remove/outcomment stuff until the error goes away. That at least will give you a clue as to where it is located. Also that error, should have a line number attached to it. /daleif -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Errorfiles.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 479424 bytes Desc: Errorfiles.zip URL: From vafa at users.berlios.de Tue Sep 15 01:40:58 2009 From: vafa at users.berlios.de (Vafa Khalighi) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:40:58 +1000 Subject: [texhax] Unwanted Extra Par Message-ID: <605202f20909141640o7af336l58740c762e897733@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to everyone who tried this. By looking at page 187 of the TeXBook, I realised this is a feature not a problem. -- Vafa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Sep 15 05:55:58 2009 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:55:58 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: References: <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <0AEC516E-0A55-4CE7-8D53-D304BB5074F8@mac.com> On 14 Sep, 2009, at 18:22, Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > Hi Lars > > I have attached all the files including the stylefiles from the > publisher. The error occurs at line 8 of the bibliography which is > \bibitem{cord10} > I can't see anything wrong. I have been line by line through all the > chapters. I am using PCTex v. 5.1. That really should not make > this happen. As you didn't include the ap-book-van.sty (you included ap-book- har.sty, but not the corresponding ap-book-har.bst), I changed that to natbib.sty and chicago.bst, and got *no error* whatsoever. The test was done with TeXLive 2008. Best, Axel From asnd at triumf.ca Tue Sep 15 06:47:08 2009 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 14 Sep 2009 21:47:08 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: References: <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: "Donn Miller-Kermani" writes: > I have attached all the files including the stylefiles from the publisher. It runs without error for me, except that ap-book-van.sty was not included, and I think it might include a bad redefinition of \thebibliography. There are warnings about multiple \labels, and for missing authors in the cites. Something might be wrong with ap-book-van.bst used to generate lakbook.bbl, but the bst wasn't enclosed either. -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From uwe.lueck at web.de Tue Sep 15 12:17:01 2009 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:17:01 +0200 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <20090914232805.GC3979@debian.b2j> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20090913080133.02643850@pop3.web.de> <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> <20090908133939.GA5176@debian.b2j> <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j> <5.1.0.14.0.20090913080133.02643850@pop3.web.de> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090915120808.03154b80@pop3.web.de> At 01:28 15.09.09, bill lam wrote: >On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Uwe L?ck wrote: > > to \mathstrut. It is used in tables/arrays (horizontal alignment) to > >Did you mean that using \strut or \vphantom is redundant in rows of tabular? I did. I was not perfectly aware: LaTeX automatically puts a modified \strut into every row of tabular/array. Height and depth of the usual \strut are multiplied by \arraystretch which is 1 by default. You can somewhat disprove my claim by \renewcommand{\arraystretch}{0}. Cheers, Uwe. From dkermani at fit.edu Tue Sep 15 14:36:47 2009 From: dkermani at fit.edu (Donn Miller-Kermani) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:36:47 -0400 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: <4AAF3948.12430.28435F@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> References: , <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk>, , <4AAF3948.12430.28435F@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> Message-ID: I am not that tex savvy and rely on what is given me by the style files. Evidently I didn't include the correct style file and bst files. They are attached here. I do use the Windows XP environment and am using PCTex. I do not understand LaTex enough to decompose the styles files that are given to me. I no longer use this on a regular basis and thus do not have my reference guide. I apologize for bothering all of you with this but I do appreciate all your help. I just don't understand what I can do (from a layman non-tex regular user) to fix this. But THANK YOU to all of you who are trying to help (and I am sorry about not including these files - I thought I had included all of them). Donn Donn Miller-Kermani, Director Women's Business Center at Florida Tech Melbourne, FL 32901 (321) 674 7006 dkermani at fit.edu http://wbc.fit.edu The Women's Business Center at Florida Tech is partially funded by a cooperative agreement with the U.S. Small Business Administration and is an outreach of the College of Business. ________________________________________ From: TeX Satz Brasil [texdienst at gmail.com] On Behalf Of hh [hh-brasil at bol.com.br] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:50 AM To: Donn Miller-Kermani Cc: texhax at tug.org Subject: Re: [texhax] Help with error Hello there are redifinitions of \bibitem in ap-book-har.sty (lines 631, 635 and 751). I must look into them a bit more. But for the error message - if I'm right - it would be enough to put an [in]visible character before the first item in the bibitem list. And I do not understand the entries in you log-file: Missing character: There is no ? in font ptmr7t! Missing character: There is no - in font ptmr7t! Would you be able to change the font to txfonts? (Replace mathptmx by txfonts on line 1482 in ap-book975x65.cls). And have a further look at the log-file for "Missing character"? I wonder which OS you are using? Looks like windows, but I might be wrong. For Windows the start of the main-file should look like this: \documentclass[fleqn]{book} %this is one of my works, just forget it \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} % correct fuer Windows-OS % \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage[varg]{txfonts} I will have a deeper look when the time allows. Sorry at the moment. hh From: "Donn Miller-Kermani" To: Lars Madsen Date sent: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:22:29 -0400 Copies to: "texhax at tug.org" Subject: Re: [texhax] Help with error > Hi Lars > > I have attached all the files including the stylefiles from the publisher. The error occurs at line 8 of the bibliography which is \bibitem{cord10} > I can't see anything wrong. I have been line by line through all the chapters. I am using PCTex v. 5.1. That really should not make this happen. > > Donn > > Donn Miller-Kermani, Director > Women's Business Center at Florida Tech > Melbourne, FL 32901 > (321) 674 7006 > dkermani at fit.edu > http://wbc.fit.edu > > The Women's Business Center at Florida Tech is partially funded by a cooperative agreement with the U.S. Small Business Administration and is an outreach of the College of Business. > ________________________________________ > From: Lars Madsen [daleif at imf.au.dk] > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:02 PM > To: Donn Miller-Kermani > Cc: texhax at tug.org > Subject: Re: [texhax] Help with error > > Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > > I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files using PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and then when I try to compile again, I get this error > > > > Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item > > > > I have been through everything and cannot find the problem. Can someone please help? I am three months on getting this book to the publisher. Thanks so much > > > > > > it is very hard to help without more information about your document. > Have you tried taking a copy of your book, place it in a different dir, > and then start to remove/outcomment stuff until the error goes away. > That at least will give you a clue as to where it is located. > > Also that error, should have a line number attached to it. > > /daleif -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ap-book-van.sty Type: application/octet-stream Size: 358 bytes Desc: ap-book-van.sty URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ap-book-van.ptp Type: application/octet-stream Size: 91 bytes Desc: ap-book-van.ptp URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ap-book-van.bst URL: From hh-brasil at bol.com.br Tue Sep 15 11:50:48 2009 From: hh-brasil at bol.com.br (hh) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:50:48 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: References: , <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk>, Message-ID: <4AAF3948.12430.28435F@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> Hello there are redifinitions of \bibitem in ap-book-har.sty (lines 631, 635 and 751). I must look into them a bit more. But for the error message - if I'm right - it would be enough to put an [in]visible character before the first item in the bibitem list. And I do not understand the entries in you log-file: Missing character: There is no ? in font ptmr7t! Missing character: There is no - in font ptmr7t! Would you be able to change the font to txfonts? (Replace mathptmx by txfonts on line 1482 in ap-book975x65.cls). And have a further look at the log-file for "Missing character"? I wonder which OS you are using? Looks like windows, but I might be wrong. For Windows the start of the main-file should look like this: \documentclass[fleqn]{book} %this is one of my works, just forget it \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} % correct fuer Windows-OS % \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage[varg]{txfonts} I will have a deeper look when the time allows. Sorry at the moment. hh From: "Donn Miller-Kermani" To: Lars Madsen Date sent: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:22:29 -0400 Copies to: "texhax at tug.org" Subject: Re: [texhax] Help with error > Hi Lars > > I have attached all the files including the stylefiles from the publisher. The error occurs at line 8 of the bibliography which is \bibitem{cord10} > I can't see anything wrong. I have been line by line through all the chapters. I am using PCTex v. 5.1. That really should not make this happen. > > Donn > > Donn Miller-Kermani, Director > Women's Business Center at Florida Tech > Melbourne, FL 32901 > (321) 674 7006 > dkermani at fit.edu > http://wbc.fit.edu > > The Women's Business Center at Florida Tech is partially funded by a cooperative agreement with the U.S. Small Business Administration and is an outreach of the College of Business. > ________________________________________ > From: Lars Madsen [daleif at imf.au.dk] > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:02 PM > To: Donn Miller-Kermani > Cc: texhax at tug.org > Subject: Re: [texhax] Help with error > > Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > > I am trying to compile a book file using the publisher's sty files using PCTex. I can compile it one time, do the bibtex, makeidx, and then when I try to compile again, I get this error > > > > Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item > > > > I have been through everything and cannot find the problem. Can someone please help? I am three months on getting this book to the publisher. Thanks so much > > > > > > it is very hard to help without more information about your document. > Have you tried taking a copy of your book, place it in a different dir, > and then start to remove/outcomment stuff until the error goes away. > That at least will give you a clue as to where it is located. > > Also that error, should have a line number attached to it. > > /daleif From hh-brasil at bol.com.br Tue Sep 15 12:02:52 2009 From: hh-brasil at bol.com.br (hh) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:02:52 -0300 Subject: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox In-Reply-To: <20090914232805.GC3979@debian.b2j> References: <20090908155556.GB7027@debian.b2j>, <5.1.0.14.0.20090913080133.02643850@pop3.web.de>, <20090914232805.GC3979@debian.b2j> Message-ID: <4AAF3C1C.2880.335144@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> Definitely not! Use it where you have problems like yours. hh Date sent: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:28:05 +0800 From: bill lam To: Uwe.L?ck @mfe04.daimi.au.dk Copies to: texhax , reinhard.kotucha at web.de, Lars Madsen , hh Subject: Re: [texhax] alignment of parbox and fbox > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Uwe L?ck wrote: > > to \mathstrut. It is used in tables/arrays (horizontal alignment) to > > Did you mean that using \strut or \vphantom is redundant in rows of tabular? > > -- > regards, > ==================================================== > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Sep 15 16:13:14 2009 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:13:14 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Help with error In-Reply-To: References: <4AAD5DD7.80907@imf.au.dk> <4AAF3948.12430.28435F@hh-brasil.bol.com.br> <42F77B4C-58A3-4FE1-A4CB-DB2A9F0ACD93@mac.com> Message-ID: <98067DC7-04C8-4D29-BBF8-7A57D451C001@mac.com> On 15 Sep, 2009, at 08:26, Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > From: Axel E. Retif [axel.retif at mac.com] > > On 15 Sep, 2009, at 07:36, Donn Miller-Kermani wrote: > >> >>> I am not that tex savvy and rely on what is given me by the style >>> files. Evidently I didn't include the correct style file and bst >>> files. They are attached here. I do use the Windows XP environment >>> and am using PCTex. I do not understand LaTex enough to decompose >>> the styles files that are given to me. I no longer use this on a >>> regular basis and thus do not have my reference guide. I apologize >>> for bothering all of you with this but I do appreciate all your >>> help. I just don't understand what I can do (from a layman non-tex >>> regular user) to fix this. >> >> I did get the error indeed, but I told LaTeX to proceed. There were >> many errors after that; but I kept telling LaTeX to go on (check in >> your PCTeX manual how to do that). Finally, the run concluded and, >> yes, the Bibliography was a mess. >> >> But then I ran LaTeX two more times, then BibTeX, then LaTeX again, >> and all is fine. >> >> I attach the PDF. > > Thank you. I need the index included as well. PCTex will not allow > you to force it to go further to keep compiling it. > > Donn The subject index typesets OK. The class you use manages multiple indices with different commands: ------------------- \newcounter{ptitl} \def\aindx#1{\index{author}{#1}} %For Author index \def\sindx#1{\index{subject}{#1}} %For Subject index \def\gindx#1{\index{general}{#1}} %For General index -------------------- And indeed you have in your preamble \newindex{aindx}{adx}{and}{Author Index} % author index \newindex{sindx}{idx}{ind}{Subject Index} % subject index \makeindex and then at the end of your document \printindex[aindx] % to print author index \printindex[gindx] \printindex[sindx] % to print subject index But I *only see* \index commands in your text. I think that maybe the original error was in the index generation, and that caused an spurious error in the Bibliography. Therefore, as you only use \index commands, you have to comment out those \newindex lines and, at the end of your document, just say \printindex. In a separate mail I'm attaching the folder with the fixed *.tex file, and resulting PDF. Best, Axel From joelcsalomon at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 17:04:26 2009 From: joelcsalomon at gmail.com (Joel C. Salomon) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:04:26 -0400 Subject: [texhax] \write18 syntax Message-ID: <4AAFACFA.7060409@gmail.com> I'm trying to typeset the documentation for unicode-math, and the .dtx includes commands like % \immediate\write18{xelatex -interaction=batchmode -jobname=unicode-math-testbf-tex """\noexpand\PassOptionsToPackage{math-style=TeX}{unicode-math}\noexpand\input unicode-math-testbf.ltx"""} I'm not sure why, but these aren't working. The log confirms that \write18 is enabled, but there's no reference to these jobs being run. Anyway, I figure I'll just run the command myself at the cmd.exe prompt -- but what is the command to run? Thanks, --Joel From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Tue Sep 15 17:40:14 2009 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:40:14 +0100 Subject: [texhax] \write18 syntax In-Reply-To: <4AAFACFA.7060409@gmail.com> References: <4AAFACFA.7060409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AAFB55E.2080201@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Perhaps I'm being too simplistic, but isn't the comment symbol "%" at the beginning of the line the sole reason that the command does not run ? Philip Taylor -------- Joel C. Salomon wrote: > I'm trying to typeset the documentation for unicode-math, and the .dtx > includes commands like > > % \immediate\write18{xelatex -interaction=batchmode > -jobname=unicode-math-testbf-tex > """\noexpand\PassOptionsToPackage{math-style=TeX}{unicode-math}\noexpand\input > unicode-math-testbf.ltx"""} > > I'm not sure why, but these aren't working. The log confirms that > \write18 is enabled, but there's no reference to these jobs being run. > > Anyway, I figure I'll just run the command myself at the cmd.exe prompt > -- but what is the command to run? > > Thanks, > --Joel > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org From joelcsalomon at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 18:27:48 2009 From: joelcsalomon at gmail.com (Joel C. Salomon) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:27:48 -0400 Subject: [texhax] \write18 syntax In-Reply-To: <4AAFB55E.2080201@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4AAFACFA.7060409@gmail.com> <4AAFB55E.2080201@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <4AAFC084.1070808@gmail.com> Philip TAYLOR wrote: > Perhaps I'm being too simplistic, but isn't the comment symbol "%" at > the beginning of the line the sole reason that the command does not run ? No; this is part of the documentation in a .dtx package. The reason the \write18 wasn't happening was almost as simple as that, though: they had been wrapped in an \iffalse-\fi pair! --Joel From pierre.mackay at comcast.net Tue Sep 15 18:50:29 2009 From: pierre.mackay at comcast.net (Pierre MacKay) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:50:29 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Advanced Ligature Handling in .mf and .pl Files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AAFC5D5.6060700@comcast.net> The recent exchanges about this subject made it clear that the documentation is rather hadr to come by, although Philip