From hartmut_henkel at gmx.de Mon Sep 1 20:52:59 2008 From: hartmut_henkel at gmx.de (Hartmut Henkel) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:52:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [texhax] table running over two columns In-Reply-To: <48B6F737.3030207@tiscali.nl> References: <48B6F737.3030207@tiscali.nl> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jan de Ruijter wrote: > I want to make a table with two columns. in the first column is a > question and in the second (alligned) the answer. now I want this > table to be printed on a page with two columns. I mean the table (with > two the columns) begins in left column on the page. and now the > difficult part: how can I arrange that after filling up the left > column on the page, the (two column) table continues at the beginning > of the right column of this page? maybe switch to single-column mode just before \begin{tabular} (which should be a non-float item). The two text columns above the table will balance to same length. Use the tabularx package to stretch the table to the full \textwidth, if you like. After the table proceed in 2-column mode. This should give a rather logic reading sequence. Regards, Hartmut From prstanley at ntlworld.com Mon Sep 1 23:37:20 2008 From: prstanley at ntlworld.com (P. R. Stanley) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:37:20 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Typesetting Use Cases In-Reply-To: <488246C2.9010801@imf.au.dk> References: <20080718223926.BLEJ18637.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> <4881A7EF.4090807@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20080719094102.EBYX18637.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> <20080719092109.lrb9hnn0isc844sk@mail.kalinowski.com.br> <20080719125528.MQJD29365.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> <48822093.3090308@imf.au.dk> <20080719174712.UTQQ16854.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> <488246C2.9010801@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <20080901213718.PEJD19289.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> Hi folks any tips on typesetting use case scenarios in LaTeX? I'm looking for a quick an easy way of including several dozen use cases in a LaTeX document, so any help would be much appreciated. Cheers Paul From karl at freefriends.org Tue Sep 2 01:23:50 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:23:50 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TeX Live 2008 available Message-ID: <200809012323.m81NNoQ29911@f7.net> TeX Live 2008 is now officially released; for the list of basic links, see the home page, http://tug.org/texlive. For download and DVD information, see http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html. Perhaps the biggest news is that the underlying package infrastructure has been completely rewritten, and dynamic package updates are now possible. We will be updating packages as they are released to CTAN (as MiKTeX has been doing for many years). For other news, there's a link on the home page. This seems a good place to mention that monetary donations to TeX development will count double though August 2009 (up to US$10,000). The same generous donor as last year has provided matching funds (and an outright grant). Of course there are many non-financial ways to contribute as well; see http://tug.org/texlive/contribute.html. Happy TeXing, Karl From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Sep 2 02:44:44 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:44:44 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TeX Live 2008 available In-Reply-To: <200809012323.m81NNoQ29911@f7.net> References: <200809012323.m81NNoQ29911@f7.net> Message-ID: <211C9A49-353B-40C2-8F5F-95EAA582BFE8@mac.com> On Sep 1, 2008, at 18:23, Karl Berry wrote: > TeX Live 2008 is now officially released; for the list of basic links, > see the home page, http://tug.org/texlive. For download and DVD > information, see http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html. All mirrors I've seen since yesterday announcement, for example, http://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/CTAN/systems/texlive/Images/ have 2008-08-22 as date; therefore, may I assume that if one already has that iso.lzma image (texlive2008-20080822.iso.lzma) one is up to date and doesn't need to download anything else? Best, Axel From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Sep 2 07:42:25 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:42:25 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Typesetting Use Cases In-Reply-To: <20080901213718.PEJD19289.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> References: <20080718223926.BLEJ18637.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> <4881A7EF.4090807@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <20080719094102.EBYX18637.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> <20080719092109.lrb9hnn0isc844sk@mail.kalinowski.com.br> <20080719125528.MQJD29365.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> <48822093.3090308@imf.au.dk> <20080719174712.UTQQ16854.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> <488246C2.9010801@imf.au.dk> <20080901213718.PEJD19289.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <9E86F00B-404A-4651-882F-62C125DAC134@mac.com> On 1 Sep, 2008, at 16:37, P. R. Stanley wrote: > Hi folks > any tips on typesetting use case scenarios in LaTeX? > I'm looking for a quick an easy way of including several dozen use > cases in a LaTeX document, so any help would be much appreciated. Do you mean use case diagrams? If so, I think pgf/TikZ or PSTricks could be your choice. Best, Axel From javier at digi21.eu Tue Sep 2 12:33:35 2008 From: javier at digi21.eu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Javier_M=FAgica?=) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:33:35 +0200 Subject: [texhax] A metaquestion Message-ID: <5088e64f0809020333i90a396eoa7eac7355df26f1a@mail.gmail.com> Where do I post a question about LuaTeX? I want to get started with it but I got stuck at format generation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hope this helps, -- Morten From will.adams at frycomm.com Tue Sep 2 13:08:22 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:08:22 -0400 Subject: [texhax] LaTeX Student In-Reply-To: <1527407074.457941219996203560.JavaMail.root@zm03.stanford.edu> References: <1527407074.457941219996203560.JavaMail.root@zm03.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <2A30E372-173F-4CE4-9205-2B6BF752C2C3@frycomm.com> On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Kazuo Yamazaki wrote: > If you could help me, I would really really appreciate it. > Otherwise, please advise me to somewhere else where I could get help. All of the other posts were very good and I'm certain you'll find them helpful. The short answer is LaTeX is a compleat (and complex) toolchain made up of a markup definition implemented as macros for the TeX typesetting tool for which specialized editors exist which are supported by a myriad of special-purpose utilities. You may also find of interest a graphical front-end called LyX: http://www.lyx.org This also makes LaTeX very easy to install on Windows and affords one the option of directly entering raw TeX or LaTeX code at need. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From will.adams at frycomm.com Tue Sep 2 13:09:27 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:09:27 -0400 Subject: [texhax] A metaquestion In-Reply-To: <5088e64f0809020333i90a396eoa7eac7355df26f1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5088e64f0809020333i90a396eoa7eac7355df26f1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <60645A76-1065-4A7B-B66D-92004927ED0B@frycomm.com> On Sep 2, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Javier M?gica wrote: > Where do I post a question about LuaTeX? > I want to get started with it but I got stuck at format generation. That should probably go to the dev-luatex mailing list _after_ you've checked the archives and all documentation: http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/dev-luatex William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From javier at digi21.eu Tue Sep 2 14:50:17 2008 From: javier at digi21.eu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Javier_M=FAgica?=) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:50:17 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Fwd: A metaquestion In-Reply-To: <5088e64f0809020549o4d388ea1rcfac43aa8dbd6576@mail.gmail.com> References: <5088e64f0809020333i90a396eoa7eac7355df26f1a@mail.gmail.com> <60645A76-1065-4A7B-B66D-92004927ED0B@frycomm.com> <5088e64f0809020549o4d388ea1rcfac43aa8dbd6576@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5088e64f0809020550v5edb37f1n27bbd7eccaca6a61@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Javier M?gica Date: 2008/9/2 Subject: Re: [texhax] A metaquestion > > That should probably go to the dev-luatex mailing list _after_ you've > checked the archives and all documentation: > > I had checked the documentation, but the answer was not there. The archives are only available to suscribers (so I will suscribe). But it may be a bug since they say that "LuaTeX defaults to pdftex (but expecting UtF8 encoding)" and the problem has nothing to do with the encoding, so the format file should compile without errors as it does in pdftex. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080902/917b7ec4/attachment.html From david.vine at sci.monash.edu.au Tue Sep 2 03:25:41 2008 From: david.vine at sci.monash.edu.au (David Vine) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:25:41 +1000 Subject: [texhax] Insert text at the beginning of bibliography Message-ID: <48BC9615.9000905@sci.monash.edu.au> Hello, I would like to insert some text at the beginning of my bibliography. I am using pdfTex with Memoir class and natbib. Other included packages (not sure if these are relevant): pdftex, amsmath, amssymb, fontencm, textcomp, microtype, mathdots, hyperref and memhfixc. Specifically, I would like to add a couple of lines of text to the effect that the Digital Object Identifier (DOI) number included in some of the references can be accessed by prefixing "http://dx.doi.org/" to the start of the DOI number. I would prefer to not include the full URL for each reference. Any help would be greatly appreciated - thesis submission in a few days and this one has me tearing my hair out! Many thanks, David Vine From uwe.lueck at web.de Tue Sep 2 16:10:10 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:10:10 +0200 Subject: [texhax] blank page In-Reply-To: <19af81400808291527q6dfa2d5dj4b5c9364dbf2d8ed@mail.gmail.co m> References: <48B6F1EB.95E8.0017.0@gw.kirkwood.k12.mo.us> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080902160559.01f14010@pop3.web.de> Indeed, At 00:27 30.08.08, Victor Ivrii wrote: >On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Axel E. Retif wrote: > > On 28 Aug, 2008, at 18:43, Steven Jonak wrote: > > >> What I'm getting is a blank page immediately after my title page > >> with roman numeral ii in the header, then my table of contents, then > >> another blank page with roman numeral iv and then finally a page > >> with Chapter 1 on it. > > > > That's how the book class should work: every chapter should begin at > > odd numbered pages; you can use the report class or > >I would suggest > >\documentclass[12pt,oneside,openany]{memoir} > >which is IMHO much better for books (highly customizable) namely page numbers on otherwise empty pages (from standard \cleardoublepage) are very annoying. Best, Uwe. . From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Wed Sep 3 01:03:32 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 01:03:32 +0200 Subject: [texhax] A metaquestion In-Reply-To: <60645A76-1065-4A7B-B66D-92004927ED0B@frycomm.com> References: <5088e64f0809020333i90a396eoa7eac7355df26f1a@mail.gmail.com> <60645A76-1065-4A7B-B66D-92004927ED0B@frycomm.com> Message-ID: <18621.50756.638730.23822@zaphod.ms25.net> William Adams writes: > On Sep 2, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Javier M?gica wrote: > > > Where do I post a question about LuaTeX? > > I want to get started with it but I got stuck at format generation. > > > That should probably go to the dev-luatex mailing list _after_ you've > checked the archives and all documentation: > > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/dev-luatex Hi William and Javier, the best approach is to simply post the log file to this mailing list. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From karl at freefriends.org Wed Sep 3 03:20:26 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:20:26 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TeX Live 2008 available In-Reply-To: <211C9A49-353B-40C2-8F5F-95EAA582BFE8@mac.com> Message-ID: <200809030120.m831KQH06795@f7.net> have 2008-08-22 as date; therefore, may I assume that if one already has that iso.lzma image (texlive2008-20080822.iso.lzma) one is up to date and doesn't need to download anything else? Correct. The final ISO image for TL'08 is the 2008-08-22 build. If you already have it, there's nothing more to get. OTOH, the first dynamic updates should appear within a few days. karl From vivrii at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 03:33:46 2008 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:33:46 -0400 Subject: [texhax] TeX Live 2008 available In-Reply-To: <200809030120.m831KQH06795@f7.net> References: <211C9A49-353B-40C2-8F5F-95EAA582BFE8@mac.com> <200809030120.m831KQH06795@f7.net> Message-ID: <19af81400809021833g21453540q353ec05563c0fbad@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Karl Berry wrote: > have 2008-08-22 as date; therefore, may I assume that if one already > has that iso.lzma image (texlive2008-20080822.iso.lzma) one is up to > date and doesn't need to download anything else? > > Correct. The final ISO image for TL'08 is the 2008-08-22 build. > If you already have it, there's nothing more to get. > > OTOH, the first dynamic updates should appear within a few days. I presume that tlmgr will be updating /2008/ tree not texmf-local. I also presume that the packages to be updated must be packed in some special way as it is the case with MikTeX Am I correct? Victor ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From dwyckoff76 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 3 06:31:43 2008 From: dwyckoff76 at hotmail.com (Daniel Wyckoff) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 04:31:43 +0000 Subject: [texhax] repository of sample TeX files?? Message-ID: Dear All, I'm at the relatively beginning stages (1000 lines) of writing my own open-source DVI previewer which I plan on embedding in a future educational math-visualization software project. It's going great. I'm really seeing how much fun programming my own stuff can be (as opposed to programming useless bells and whistles for a dot com, my last real job many moons ago). Anyway, I was wondering if anyone can point me to some repository of sample TeX files, preferably mathematical, that I can use to test/QA my DVI previewer. Nothing too fancy, but preferably a wide variety. I already checked out the TeX Showcase linked to TUG's home page and found some good stuff there, but was itching for some more. Thanks in advance, -Daniel W. P.S. I posted to this mailing list about 2 years ago, when I first had the idea of a math-visualization educational tool, but have postponed beginning the actual coding of it till just a couple of weeks ago, due to personal issues. Anyway, I really really liked the response I got from you guys back then, and wanted to thank you all again for helping and encouraging me. I only wish I was in a position to begin coding it back then, but better late than never. _________________________________________________________________ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080903/07061ec9/attachment.html From toms at ncifcrf.gov Wed Sep 3 15:44:29 2008 From: toms at ncifcrf.gov (Tom Schneider) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] repository of sample TeX files?? In-Reply-To: from Daniel Wyckoff at "Sep 3, 2008 04:31:43 am" Message-ID: <200809031344.m83DiTKs016711@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> > I'm at the relatively beginning stages (1000 lines) of writing my > own open-source DVI previewer which I plan on embedding in a future > educational math-visualization software project. A DVI previewer that handled rotation, postscript and actively updated when the file changed would be nice ... Tom Dr. Thomas D. Schneider National Institutes of Health National Cancer Institute Center for Cancer Research Nanobiology Program Molecular Information Theory Group Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201 toms at ncifcrf.gov permanent email: toms at alum.mit.edu http://www.ccrnp.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/ From will.adams at frycomm.com Wed Sep 3 15:53:31 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:53:31 -0400 Subject: [texhax] repository of sample TeX files?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9108346A-D794-4576-A0D6-CEE4DC255B13@frycomm.com> On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Daniel Wyckoff wrote: > I'm at the relatively beginning stages (1000 lines) of writing my > own open-source DVI previewer which I plan on embedding in a future > educational math-visualization software project. It's going great. > I'm really seeing how much fun programming my own stuff can be (as > opposed to programming useless bells and whistles for a dot com, my > last real job many moons ago). Anyway, I was wondering if anyone > can point me to some repository of sample TeX files, preferably > mathematical, that I can use to test/QA my DVI previewer. Nothing > too fancy, but preferably a wide variety. I already checked out the > TeX Showcase linked to TUG's home page and found some good stuff > there, but was itching for some more. Have you looked at www.arxiv.org? Lots of stuff there, w/ the source available for download. Or just look at some of the math tutorials (Gr?tzer's Math into LaTeX) and chunk that down. Or, grab one of the opensource math textbooks which uses LaTeX: http://linear.ups.edu/opentexts.html Compleat site on this sort of thing here: http://opensourcemath.org/ William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From will.adams at frycomm.com Wed Sep 3 16:04:29 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:04:29 -0400 Subject: [texhax] repository of sample TeX files?? In-Reply-To: <200809031344.m83DiTKs016711@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> References: <200809031344.m83DiTKs016711@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> Message-ID: <4152CAAC-C43E-40A8-B002-D5BE9FA5FCD7@frycomm.com> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Tom Schneider wrote: > A DVI previewer that handled rotation, postscript and actively updated > when the file changed would be nice ... And that, in a nutshell, is what I liked about TeXview.app on my NeXT Cube.... William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From C.A.Rowley at open.ac.uk Wed Sep 3 15:33:19 2008 From: C.A.Rowley at open.ac.uk (Chris Rowley) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:33:19 +0100 Subject: [texhax] repository of sample TeX files?? In-Reply-To: <200809031344.m83DiTKs016711@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> References: <200809031344.m83DiTKs016711@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> Message-ID: <18622.37407.445281.934985@fell.open.ac.uk> Daniel > > I'm at the relatively beginning stages (1000 lines) of writing my > > own open-source DVI previewer which I plan on embedding in a future > > educational math-visualization software project. You may find that educational math-visualisation will soon require a MathML+SVG viewer: and one that uses the algorithm from TeX to format the maths would be really nice! chris From dwyckoff76 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 3 19:36:54 2008 From: dwyckoff76 at hotmail.com (Daniel Wyckoff) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:36:54 +0000 Subject: [texhax] thanks for the links / suggestions Message-ID: Thanks so much for the links, William! They were really helpful. Chris and Tom, thanks for the suggestions! While I can't promise that my DVI previewer will be much more than a primitive tool to suit my own eccentric needs in the offing, I will say that I eventually do want to address feature requests of other people who are building similar educational software. Back to coding! I'll be sure to re-post to this mailing list when the DVI previewer is ready for others to play with. (Maybe several months from now?) -Daniel _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Can anybody help? Thanks, Ad ----------------------------------------------------------- the artesis ICT team checked this mail for viruses and spam From vivrii at gmail.com Sun Sep 7 12:47:50 2008 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 06:47:50 -0400 Subject: [texhax] memoir: bookmark-level of bibliography Message-ID: <19af81400809070347o47becb8fm70ec0d83e718846e@mail.gmail.com> I am using memoir with parts, chapters etc. I noticed that in the bookmark hierarchy bibliography and index are on the third level (as section) while if I skip parts it goes on the top (chapter) level. How to fix the first one and force those bookmarks on the top level? Thank you Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From Kemal.Akman at campus.lmu.de Sun Sep 7 13:04:55 2008 From: Kemal.Akman at campus.lmu.de (Kemal Akman) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:04:55 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Macro usage being ignored Message-ID: Hi, I'm having problems with usage of defined macros simply being ignored by TeXlive (standard, full Ubuntu 8.04 installation). These are macros with several parameters (see below) and were ported from Mac (Textures). I've minimized the problem and am now at a loss why this simple macro use is being ignored: \def\Thema#1\par#2\par#3\par{\vfill\supereject\nopagenumbers \message{#1}% show the Thema title on the terminal \setbox\Themabox=\vtop{\offinterlineskip\hbox{\strut#1\unskip} \hbox{\strut#2\unskip} \hbox{\strut#3\unskip}}} Though the \message is being shown during parsing of \Thema usage with three arguments later on. See attachment of plain tex file and the PDF, which is missing "Title of publication here", and "Firstname Lastname Date" at the top of the page. As far as I could tell, all definitions conform with Knuth's TeXbook, so I'd be very happy if someone could elaborate what's wrong here, or any pointers regarding where to start looking. $ tex --version TeX 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.6) kpathsea version 3.5.6 Thanks, Kemal Akman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080907/100e189b/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: test.tex Type: application/x-tex Size: 1949 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080907/100e189b/attachment.tex -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kemal Akman wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having problems with usage of defined macros simply being > ignored by TeXlive Philip TAYLOR From lilliantadros at hotmail.com Mon Sep 8 16:19:29 2008 From: lilliantadros at hotmail.com (lilliantadros at hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:19:29 +0000 Subject: [texhax] Vertical leaders alignment / Actual line width Message-ID: Hi again, in case anyone's interested, I found a solution, though admittedly imperfect: In essence, I calculate the TOTAL line width, if all the title were to be put on one line, then keep subtracting the MAXIMUM line width allowed, till I end up with a sort of "mod" line width for the last line. The only problem with this approach is that it doesn't take the actual WORDS into account, so it assumes Latex will just break the line at any point, which isn't the point of course. This way, the width calculated for the last line will always be <= the line width Latex will end up giving us. Still it gives a good estimate, and I just added some fixed extra width to the line to account for that. Here's the code: %save chapter title in a box, all on one line \sbox{\chapterbox}{\rm\Large\expandafter\MakeUppercase{\chapterlabel}}% %maximum allowed width \setlength{\chapterwmax}{\textwidth}\addtolength{\chapterwmax}{-\chapterrulet}\addtolength{\chapterwmax}{-2\p@}% %actual width of the chapter title, possibly longer than the maximum allowed width \setlength{\chapterw}{\wd\chapterbox}% \ifnum\chapterw>\chapterwmax% %keep subtracting the width of one line from the chapter title, until left with the width of the last line \ifnum\chapterw>\chapterwmax\addtolength{\chapterw}{-\chapterwmax}\repeat% %the width of the bottom rule is the maximum width minus the width of the last line of the chapter title \setlength{\chapterrulew}{\chapterwmax}\addtolength{\chapterrulew}{\chapterrulet}\addtolength{\chapterrulew}{-\chapterw}% %extra space, because last line width will always be larger than total text width %(number of lines - 1) \addtolength{\chapterrulew}{-25\p@}% \setlength{\chapterw}{\chapterwmax}% %now set the title in a parbox of width=maximum width \sbox{\chapterbox}{\parbox[b]{\chapterw}{\raggedleft\rm\Large\expandafter\MakeUppercase{\chapterlabel}}}% \fi% Hope this helps someone somewhere! Cheers. -------------------- Original Message: Hi, I'm trying to format chapter titles in a frame, where the title text is aligned bottom-right, and where the bottom line of the frame is vertically aligned with the baseline (thus the title text) and also ends right before the text startes, so it looks something like this: _________________ | | |_____chapter name| If anyone is familiar with the "Glenn" style in the fncychap package, this looks basically the same... Anyway, I got up to that point, the trouble is when the text of the chapter title doesn't fit on one line. Ideally, I would want it to look like this: __________________ | | | A very long chapter| | title which spans| |______several lines| I got as far as putting it (right-aligned) in a parbox, and adjusting the vertical lengths. The trouble is with the bottom horizonal line: I give the maximum length for par-width, so doing it with rule+hfill+parbox like with single lines results in a zero-length rule, because the parbox takes up all the width. I checked out the pbox package, but it doesn't give me the width of the last line which is the one I'm interested in, and which is mostly the shortest. I have several thoughts but I'm not exactly sure whether they make sense or how to implement them: - If I could only find out the actual width of the last line, I could manually set the width of the bottom rule. But, like I said, pbox didn't calculate that. - One could integrate the bottom line INSIDE the parbox, like with leaders or something. It's the closest I got, but then it's aligned with the first par line of course. Is there a way to indicate the vertical alignment of the leaders, so I could say it should point to the bottom line? - One idea is to manually separate the lines of the parbox, but I'm not sure how, and is prob way difficult and not very clean... - I tried setting the parbox first, vskipping and hskipping back to where the bottom line should start, and then rule+fill, but of course it then ignores the parbox altogether and goes the whole textwidth (right acros the bottom line). - I thought maybe a white hrule or underline or something in the bottom of the parbox (are white chars processed at all or just ignored? Not even sure...) to overwrite the bottom rule where the bottom text is ("several lines"), but again not sure how... ANY ideas are appreciated!! Thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080908/a89c98b0/attachment.html From tug at alxp.gr Mon Sep 8 15:59:18 2008 From: tug at alxp.gr (ap) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:59:18 +0100 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF Message-ID: Hi all, I didn't find any previous post on this topic, so sorry if it had already been covered (it seems to me that it should be a frequent question). I wanted to know if there's a method to compile a small piece of LaTeX code to a standalone PDF output containing only that part. I might not be very clear, but I basically want to convert for example a formula to a PDF output displaying that formula as interpreted by LaTeX (for example as latex2html does, or even as MediaWiki does with texvc and the ... construct - except I am looking for PDF output and not PNG). For the moment, I am only aware of the following workaround: -create a tex file that will contain nothing more than the formula to be displayed (i.e. use \pagestyle{empty}). -use the latex engine -use dvips -E to find a tight bounding box -convert to PDF. But that's not satisfactory when I want, for some reasons, to compile using the pdflatex engine. So my question is, how can I generate a PDF using pdflatex in a way that acts like (latex + dvips -E + epstopdf) ? Thanks for your answers. ap From martin at oneiros.de Mon Sep 8 16:58:39 2008 From: martin at oneiros.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:58:39 +0200 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68c491a60809080758s107bf524s47ebbfa25b1090c3@mail.gmail.com> 2008/9/8 ap : > I wanted to know if there's a method to compile a small piece of LaTeX > code to a standalone PDF output containing only that part. I might not \usepackage{preview} and have a look at previewlatex. Best Martin From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Mon Sep 8 17:25:25 2008 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:25:25 +0100 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48C543E5.2040305@Rhul.Ac.Uk> ap wrote: > But that's not satisfactory when I want, for some reasons, to compile > using the pdflatex engine. So my question is, how can I generate a PDF > using pdflatex in a way that acts like (latex + dvips -E + epstopdf) ? An idea (untested) : typeset into a box, measure the box, then set PdfTeX's page dimensions to the box dimensions before shipping the box out. Something like : \setbox 0 = \hbox {$x = {-b \pm \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} \over 2a}$} \hsize = \wd 0 \vsize = \ht 0 \advance \vsize by \dp 0 \pdfpageheight = \vsize \pdfpagewidth = \hsize \pdfhorigin = 0 px \pdfvorigin = 0 px \box 0 \end Philip TAYLOR From will.adams at frycomm.com Mon Sep 8 17:30:19 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:30:19 -0400 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, ap wrote: > I wanted to know if there's a method to compile a small piece of LaTeX > code to a standalone PDF output containing only that part. I might not > be very clear, but I basically want to convert for example a formula > to a PDF output displaying that formula as interpreted by LaTeX (for > example as latex2html does, or even as MediaWiki does with texvc and > the ... construct - except I am looking for PDF output > and not PNG). > > For the moment, I am only aware of the following workaround: > > -create a tex file that will contain nothing more than the formula to > be displayed (i.e. use \pagestyle{empty}). > -use the latex engine > -use dvips -E to find a tight bounding box > -convert to PDF. > > But that's not satisfactory when I want, for some reasons, to compile > using the pdflatex engine. So my question is, how can I generate a PDF > using pdflatex in a way that acts like (latex + dvips -E + epstopdf) ? > > Thanks for your answers. You'll need to: - wrap the equation / tex bit in a wrapper which loads any needed macros and packages and \begin/\end{document}s - include a macro wrapper which typesets the macro into a box, measures the box and sets the page size to that (using say the geometry package) Or you could post-process the .pdf If you're using Mac OS X you may find LaTeXiT of interest: http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/latexit_en.php Which is a re-creation of the NeXTstep TeXview.app's tex eq -> eps Service for .pdfs William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Mon Sep 8 18:05:43 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:05:43 +0200 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ap skrev: > I wanted to know if there's a method to compile a small piece of LaTeX > code to a standalone PDF output containing only that part. I might not > be very clear, but I basically want to convert for example a formula > to a PDF output displaying that formula as interpreted by LaTeX (for > example as latex2html does, or even as MediaWiki does with texvc and > the ... construct - except I am looking for PDF output > and not PNG). with preview.sty \usepackage[active,tightpage]{preview} or use pgf/TikZ and \beginpgfgraphicnamed{... \endpgfgraphicnamed > -create a tex file that will contain nothing more than the formula to > be displayed (i.e. use \pagestyle{empty}). you can use the same procedure with pdflatex and then crop the resulting pdf with pdfcrop. From s.schwartz at imperial.ac.uk Mon Sep 8 18:11:27 2008 From: s.schwartz at imperial.ac.uk (Steve Schwartz) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:11:27 +0100 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: <68c491a60809080758s107bf524s47ebbfa25b1090c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <68c491a60809080758s107bf524s47ebbfa25b1090c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220890287.4652.95.camel@sony-sjs.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk> On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 16:58 +0200, Martin Schr?der wrote: > \usepackage{preview} and have a look at previewlatex. This looks to be the obvious pure latex solution, though others have suggested the generic idea of changing the pagesize by measuring the typeset box. Personally, I use pdfcrop to post-process the pdf file. It does an excellent job of cropping pdf files with options to add/subtract margins and do other things. You might find pdfcrop amongst your tex goodies somewhere, else find it at ctan. The README says that it probably doesn't work in windows. Steve -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ Professor Steven J Schwartz Phone: +44-(0)20-7594-7660 Space and Atmospheric Physics Fax: +44-(0)20-7594-7772 The Blackett Laboratory E-mail: s.schwartz at imperial.ac.uk Imperial College London Office: Huxley 6M70 London SW7 2AZ, U.K. Web: http://www.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~sjs +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karl at freefriends.org Tue Sep 9 00:29:58 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:29:58 -0500 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200809082229.m88MTw319262@f7.net> how can I generate a PDF using pdflatex in a way that acts like (latex + dvips -E + epstopdf) ? Here's what I do: pdflatex foo.tex pdfcrop foo.pdf # outputs foo-crop.pdf pdfcrop is a Perl script by Heiko Oberdiek; it's included in TeX Live and is available on CTAN. Best, Karl From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Tue Sep 9 09:49:53 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:49:53 +0200 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: <1220890287.4652.95.camel@sony-sjs.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk> References: <68c491a60809080758s107bf524s47ebbfa25b1090c3@mail.gmail.com> <1220890287.4652.95.camel@sony-sjs.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk> Message-ID: Steve Schwartz skrev: > You might find pdfcrop amongst your tex goodies somewhere, else find it > at ctan. The README says that it probably doesn't work in windows. It works fine on my WinXP PC. Of course you need to have Perl installed. From tug at alxp.gr Tue Sep 9 11:27:16 2008 From: tug at alxp.gr (ap) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:27:16 +0100 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: <200809082229.m88MTw319262@f7.net> References: <200809082229.m88MTw319262@f7.net> Message-ID: <51B55917-90C5-4BCD-A6FF-E5225E290881@alxp.gr> Hi all, Thank you very much for all of your answers. I took a look at the various proposals, and I retained the pdfcrop and the preview package ones. Especially the preview package seems absolutely PERFECT for what I want. I will stick to that, but I just wonder: is there any reason to prefer one or the other solution? Wouldn't pdfcrop, as a perl script and as a PDF post-processor, be "less efficient"? Additionally, there's the need to have perl installed (which isn't a problem for me as I'm on Mac OS X), but it could be a problem if I want to release my scripts. Concerning LaTeXiT, yes, I already took a look at its sources, but I didn't really understand how it operates (there seems to be a three step way of guessing, from the most efficient to the most robust, and it seems like the robust method uses PS). If you're curious about what I was doing, I was writing a script that converts a FIG file to a single PDF file (as opposed to the combined PDFTEX format, which comes with two files - having one single PDF file is more "portable" for sharing with others, for example). I really wanted pdflatex because my tex template file (the one to generate the preview from) must use the beamer class (which doesn't really behave well with latex), as my FIG file may contain overlay specifications. In which case I obtain a multi-image PDF that contains each step of the FIG file. Additionally, that creates a nice visualiser for a FIG file (which can be very complex to understand when you start having a lot of special latex text in it, and still more when that text has overlay specifications). I might consider in the future creating a Quicklook plugin from that (at the moment I'm too lazy to read the doc about that). If anyone is interested, I can post it to the list at a later time, when it's well polished. Regards, ap On 8 Sep 2008, at 23:29, Karl Berry wrote: > how can I generate a PDF > using pdflatex in a way that acts like (latex + dvips -E + > epstopdf) ? > > Here's what I do: > > pdflatex foo.tex > pdfcrop foo.pdf # outputs foo-crop.pdf > > pdfcrop is a Perl script by Heiko Oberdiek; it's included in TeX Live > and is available on CTAN. > > Best, > Karl From mas at mylug.org Tue Sep 9 13:44:45 2008 From: mas at mylug.org (Sridhar M.A.) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:14:45 +0530 Subject: [texhax] compile to a small PDF In-Reply-To: <200809082229.m88MTw319262@f7.net> References: <200809082229.m88MTw319262@f7.net> Message-ID: <20080909114445.GA3832@brahman> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:29:58PM -0500, Karl Berry wrote: > > Here's what I do: > > pdflatex foo.tex > pdfcrop foo.pdf # outputs foo-crop.pdf > Not directly related the question by OP, but I tried the pdfcrop package and was surprised at the resulting file size : cv.pdf -> 161 kB cv-crop.pdf -> 742 kB For a cropped file, I find that size increase is too much :-) Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 Calling you stupid is an insult to stupid people! -- Wanda, "A Fish Called Wanda" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since pdflatex can't insert .pdf tags (or is there a package for this?), you need to certify against pdf/A-1b: - Open the file in Adobe Acrobat - Save File As and choose as Format: PDF/A - choose pdf/a-1b in the pop-up - quit Acrobat - re-open the file - preflight (successfully) as PDF/A-1b That said, I also posted a message to the dvipdfmx list, hoping to stir up some effort in doing this more directly --- does anyone know if it's on the radar for luatex? William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Wed Sep 10 17:37:07 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:37:07 +0200 Subject: [texhax] generating PDF/A files In-Reply-To: <32068081-3C8C-4A43-95F4-AC240F5E00F9@frycomm.com> References: <32068081-3C8C-4A43-95F4-AC240F5E00F9@frycomm.com> Message-ID: William Adams skrev: > Since pdflatex can't insert .pdf tags (or is there a package for > this?), you need to certify against pdf/A-1b: Some steps has been taken by Heiko Oberdiek in package hyperref. 2008-04-16 6.77p Heiko Oberdiek * New option `pdfa' to improve compatibility with PDF/A, see README. >From the README: Option `pdfa' -------`----' The new option `pdfa' tries to avoid violations of PDF/A in code generated by hyperref. However, the result is usually not in PDF/A, because many features aren't controlled by hyperref (XMP metadata, fonts, colors, driver dependend low level stuff, ...). Currently, option `pdfa' sets and disables the following items: * Enabled annotation flags: Print, NoZoom, NoRotate [PDF/A 6.5.3]. * Disabled annotation flags: Hidden, Invisible, NoView [PDF/A 6.5.3]. * Disabled: Launch action (\href{run:...} [PDF/A 6.6.1]. * Restricted: Named actions (\Acrobatmenu: NextPage, PrevPage, FirstPage, LastPage) [PDF/A 6.6.1]. * Many things are disabled in PDF formulars: * JavaScript actions [PDF/A 6.6.1] * Trigger events (additional actions) [PDF/A 6.6.2] * Push button (because of JavaScript) * Interactive Forms: Flag NeedAppearances is the default `false' (Because of this, hyperref's implementation of Forms looks ugly). [PDF/A 6.9] The default value of the new option `pdfa' is `false'. It influences the loading of the package and cannot be changed after hyperref is loaded (\usepackage{hyperref}). ToDo: * XMP support * ... But perhaps Adobe Acrobat is now happy and can now convert the PDF file to PDF/A. From will.adams at frycomm.com Wed Sep 10 18:10:19 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:10:19 -0400 Subject: [texhax] generating PDF/A files In-Reply-To: References: <32068081-3C8C-4A43-95F4-AC240F5E00F9@frycomm.com> Message-ID: <880B4023-1FAD-4FA5-B75B-97B468E94A49@frycomm.com> On Sep 10, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Martin Heller wrote: > Some steps has been taken by Heiko Oberdiek in package hyperref. Thanks! That's good to know. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From mahi2308 at rediffmail.com Thu Sep 11 10:36:26 2008 From: mahi2308 at rediffmail.com (mahi) Date: 11 Sep 2008 08:36:26 -0000 Subject: [texhax] pdflatex for figures Message-ID: <20080911083626.19288.qmail@f4mail-235-130.rediffmail.com> ? Hi I am MikTeX user, i wanted to know if there's a method to compile pdflatex without disturbing the figures (figures are in pdf format), all the figure i am converting from eps to pdf for pdflatex purpose because it will not read .eps files and i don't want to use .jpg format. But the problem is when i compile tex file using pdflatex, inside the figures some characters are not displaying because in eps format Open Type Fonts fonts have been used, and pdflatex using type1 fonts and type1 have only 256 characters and that character will not come under 256. I might not be very clear, but I basically want to convert for example a TeX to a PDF output without disturbing the figures, is there any way to skip a figures while compiling using pdflatex like (latex + dvi + dvips + pdf(acrobat distiller)) ? Thanks for your answers. Maheshwari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I might not be very clear, but I basically want to convert for example a TeX to a PDF output without disturbing the figures, is there any way to skip a figures while compiling using pdflatex like (latex + dvi + dvips + pdf(acrobat distiller)) ? Thanks for your answers. Maheshwari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From vinayx2001 at yahoo.co.in Sat Sep 13 06:02:22 2008 From: vinayx2001 at yahoo.co.in (vinay singh) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:32:22 +0530 (IST) Subject: [texhax] request Message-ID: <107477.52298.qm@web8401.mail.in.yahoo.com> Dear sir, ????????? Please send the code of Latex in article documentclass which print authors name on odd pages and title on even pages. ? thank you ? VINAY SINGH Research Scholar Department of Mathematics Banaras Hindu University VARANASI-221005, INDIA Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080913/eb5b711c/attachment.html From axel.retif at mac.com Sat Sep 13 11:14:07 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:14:07 -0500 Subject: [texhax] request In-Reply-To: <107477.52298.qm@web8401.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <107477.52298.qm@web8401.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5DD0FD72-784B-4F2C-AC6E-9F7841003BD5@mac.com> On 12 Sep, 2008, at 23:02, vinay singh wrote: > Dear sir, > Please send the code of Latex in article documentclass > which print authors name on odd pages and title on even pages. See the fancyhdr package documentation: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/fancyhdr/ It's very likely you already have it in your distribution. For article class, you will have to use \documentclass[twoside]{article} Best, Axel From axel.retif at mac.com Sun Sep 14 08:06:03 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:06:03 -0500 Subject: [texhax] request In-Reply-To: <609118.15922.qm@web8402.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <609118.15922.qm@web8402.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16EDC426-F87C-42FE-88EC-F9007A8A035F@mac.com> On 13 Sep, 2008, at 23:26, vinay singh wrote: > Thank you sir for your responce . > Sir i am using protex (window version) and my editor window is > TeXnicCenter. I want to latest version of Latex of window version. > How can I get. > please inform me. > VINAY SINGH > Research Scholar > Department of Mathematics > B.H.U. > VARANASI-221005,INDIA I'm think you mean proTeXt http://www.tug.org/protext/ and that the missing ``t'' was just a typo; if that's so, proTeXt is a repackaging of MiKTeX, and therefore you should have an application called ``Update'' inside the MiKTeX directory. Maybe it will need to update it's binaries before doing the TeX distribution update properly. Personally, I don't use MiKTeX, but I know it is a very up to date distribution. Best, Axel From uwe.lueck at web.de Mon Sep 15 02:41:08 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:41:08 +0200 Subject: [texhax] pdflatex for figures In-Reply-To: References: <20080911083626.19288.qmail@f4mail-235-130.rediffmail.com> <20080911083626.19288.qmail@f4mail-235-130.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080915023103.036827d0@pop3.web.de> At 10:59 11.09.08, Martin Heller wrote: >mahi skrev: > > > I might not be very clear, but I basically want to convert for example a > > TeX to a PDF output without disturbing the figures, is there any way to > > skip a figures while compiling using pdflatex like > > (latex + dvi + dvips + pdf(acrobat distiller)) ? Certainly there is, redefine the \includegraphics... to insert nothing but an invisible vertical rule being as high as the figure would be ... but sorry, I can't afford doing this right now, better somebody with daily practice with including graphics might do it. >pdflatex does not change included figures. Can you make a figure >and a minimal sample document showing the error available online? I have an example of a .tex -> .pdf "skipping" an "embedded" (I thought) .eps, contrary to my intention. I kind of remember that this is a known problem, yet I can't afford ... I mean, the place filled by the figure in YAP is nothing but empty space in the .pdf. Sorry ... Uwe. From mahi2308 at rediffmail.com Mon Sep 15 14:09:39 2008 From: mahi2308 at rediffmail.com (mahi) Date: 15 Sep 2008 12:09:39 -0000 Subject: [texhax] hyperref for dvips Message-ID: <20080915120939.24800.qmail@f4mail-235-147.rediffmail.com> ? Hi I am MikTeX user, i am using hyperref package with dvips option to get linking in the pdf. The problem is if i use this package with pdflatex the links are going to the particular place where it is required, but if i use dvips option after creating the pdf the links are going to that page not particular place. Thanks for your answers. Maheshwari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080915/e8903b9d/attachment.html From rodolfo.medina at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 18:02:25 2008 From: rodolfo.medina at gmail.com (Rodolfo Medina) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:02:25 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Plain TeX: text body not centered? Message-ID: <87abe9v1m6.fsf@gmail.com> In plain TeX, the simple file: \hoffset=0pt \centerline{ollo} \vskip 1cm \hrule \bye produces an output that's not centered in the middle of the page although \hoffset is set to 0. Why? Thanks for any help Rodolfo From pgt at arcor.de Mon Sep 15 14:32:09 2008 From: pgt at arcor.de (Plamen Tanovski) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:32:09 +0200 Subject: [texhax] geometry.sty author's e-mail Message-ID: <20080915123209.GA7201@mail.tanovski.de> Hi, geometry.sty has some wrong papersizes. I sent an e-mail to the author but haven't got an answer. Since the address in the geometry's manual is almost 5 years old, maybe it is no more up to date. Does anybody know Hideo Umeki's current e-mail address? I asked the same question on comp.text.tex, but got no answer. best regards -- Plamen Tanovski Prager Str. 125, 04317 Leipzig, Germany Tel. +49 341 3 08 57 60 From martin at oneiros.de Mon Sep 15 17:38:28 2008 From: martin at oneiros.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:38:28 +0200 Subject: [texhax] geometry.sty author's e-mail In-Reply-To: <20080915123209.GA7201@mail.tanovski.de> References: <20080915123209.GA7201@mail.tanovski.de> Message-ID: <68c491a60809150838m1f90day42d7fafba121ce56@mail.gmail.com> 2008/9/15 Plamen Tanovski : > geometry.sty has some wrong papersizes. I sent an e-mail to the author > but haven't got an answer. Since the address in the geometry's manual > is almost 5 years old, maybe it is no more up to date. Does anybody > know Hideo Umeki's current e-mail address? I asked the same question > on comp.text.tex, but got no answer. Allow some time, and if that fails, you can follow the rules of the LPPL to become the maintainer of geometry. :-{ Best Martin From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Mon Sep 15 23:08:01 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:08:01 +0200 Subject: [texhax] hyperref for dvips In-Reply-To: <20080915120939.24800.qmail@f4mail-235-147.rediffmail.com> References: <20080915120939.24800.qmail@f4mail-235-147.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <18638.52913.262064.523074@zaphod.ms25.net> mahi writes: > I am MikTeX user, i am using hyperref package with dvips option to > get linking in the pdf. The problem is if i use this package with > pdflatex the links are going to the particular place where it is > required, but if i use dvips option after creating the pdf the > links are going to that page not particular place. Hi mahi, remove the dvips option. Hyperref is smart enough to find out whether you are creating dvi or pdf. You have to specify a driver in very rare occasions only. I don't know why you specified a driver at all. Who asked you to do it? Please ***never*** search Google if you encounter a problem with LaTeX. There is too much crap in the internet. The only reliable web site is: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Hal.Heaton at jhuapl.edu Mon Sep 15 17:42:11 2008 From: Hal.Heaton at jhuapl.edu (Heaton, Harold I.) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:42:11 -0400 Subject: [texhax] PDF Conversion Message-ID: <7067CF33C148F5479B7B73FB0DDD1A2301EC0FF4@aplexa.dom1.jhuapl.edu> I've downloaded MiKTEX v. 2.7 from one of the CTAN mirror sites, and successfully used it with the American Astronomical Society's AASTEX v5.2 macro to create a typeset draft of a new journal article. I can successfully build and then print the file to my local laser printer without incident. However, I can not save a copy of the built .dvi file. The only menu option for saving that file is "print" it to my computer as a .pdf file. I would be very happy with that option, but it doesn't work. I originally got a Metatext resolution error that my IT group has been trying to resolve without success. (There is no formal support at my institution for TEX.) Can you offer any suggestions as to how to successfully save (i.e., "print") such files in .pdf format? Regards, Hal Heaton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080915/f76afeaf/attachment.html From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Mon Sep 15 23:23:27 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:23:27 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Plain TeX: text body not centered? In-Reply-To: <87abe9v1m6.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87abe9v1m6.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18638.53839.338042.293121@zaphod.ms25.net> Rodolfo Medina writes: > In plain TeX, the simple file: > > > \hoffset=0pt > \centerline{ollo} > \vskip 1cm > \hrule > > \bye > > > produces an output that's not centered in the middle of the page although > \hoffset is set to 0. Why? Maybe because Knuth decided that there should be a 1 inch offset by default (horizontally and vertically.). Please try: \advance \hoffset by -1in Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From uwe.lueck at web.de Mon Sep 15 23:24:58 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:24:58 +0200 Subject: [texhax] hyperref for dvips In-Reply-To: <20080915120939.24800.qmail@f4mail-235-147.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080915231430.0303ece0@pop3.web.de> At 14:09 15.09.08, mahi wrote: >I am MikTeX user, i am using hyperref package with dvips option to get >linking in the pdf. The problem is if i use this package with pdflatex the >links are going to the particular place where it is required, but if i use >dvips option after creating the pdf the links are going to that page not >particular place. \usepackage{hypdvips} http://ctan.tug.org/pkg/hypdvips "The hypdvips package fixes some problems when using hyperref with dvips." - I don't mean to have understood anything, just an association, due to some accident or magic or the package author just read Mahi's posting and released a new version, now announced by ctan-ann. -- Uwe. From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Sep 16 09:20:50 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:20:50 -0500 Subject: [texhax] PDF Conversion In-Reply-To: <7067CF33C148F5479B7B73FB0DDD1A2301EC0FF4@aplexa.dom1.jhuapl.edu> References: <7067CF33C148F5479B7B73FB0DDD1A2301EC0FF4@aplexa.dom1.jhuapl.edu> Message-ID: <55DEDD2C-A8B9-4A2D-B9C9-D4D250083C03@mac.com> On 15 Sep, 2008, at 10:42, Heaton, Harold I. wrote: > I've downloaded MiKTEX v. 2.7 from one of the CTAN mirror sites, > and successfully used it with the American Astronomical Society's > AASTEX v5.2 macro to create a typeset draft of a new journal > article. I can successfully build and then print the file to my > local laser printer without incident. However, I can not save a > copy of the built .dvi file. The only menu option for saving that > file is "print" it to my computer as a .pdf file. I would be very > happy with that option, but it doesn't work. I originally got a > Metatext resolution error that my IT group has been trying to > resolve without success. (There is no formal support at my > institution for TEX.) > > Can you offer any suggestions as to how to successfully save > (i.e., "print") such files in .pdf format? I don't know if I fully understand what you mean, and I don't know what editor you use, but in general you have two ways to get a PDF: 1) If you don't have postscript specials (like, say, PSTricks figures), simply click the button PDFLaTeX in your editor (TeXmaker, TeXnicCenter, etc.). 2) If you have postscript specials, typeset with LaTeX and then click in the button DviPS to get a *.ps file which you can distill with, for example, Ghostscript or Adobe Distiller. Again, I don't know if I'm really understanding your question. Best, Axel From mailing_list at arcor.de Mon Sep 15 20:30:42 2008 From: mailing_list at arcor.de (Stephan Hennig) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:30:42 +0200 Subject: [texhax] geometry.sty author's e-mail In-Reply-To: <68c491a60809150838m1f90day42d7fafba121ce56@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080915123209.GA7201@mail.tanovski.de> <68c491a60809150838m1f90day42d7fafba121ce56@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48CEA9D2.1060403@arcor.de> Martin Schr?der schrieb: > 2008/9/15 Plamen Tanovski : >> geometry.sty has some wrong papersizes. I sent an e-mail to the author >> but haven't got an answer. Since the address in the geometry's manual >> is almost 5 years old, maybe it is no more up to date. Does anybody >> know Hideo Umeki's current e-mail address? > > Allow some time, and if that fails, you can follow the rules of the > LPPL to become the maintainer of geometry. :-{ I've sent a lines option related bug report to Hideo Umeki in May and July 2007 without any response. In case someone can't wait any more ... Best regards, Stephan Hennig From okumura at edu.mie-u.ac.jp Wed Sep 17 11:27:51 2008 From: okumura at edu.mie-u.ac.jp (Haruhiko Okumura) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:27:51 +0900 Subject: [texhax] geometry.sty author's e-mail In-Reply-To: <48CEA9D2.1060403@arcor.de> References: <20080915123209.GA7201@mail.tanovski.de> <68c491a60809150838m1f90day42d7fafba121ce56@mail.gmail.com> <48CEA9D2.1060403@arcor.de> Message-ID: Dr. Umeki can be reached at latexgeometry at gmail dot com. I understand that he will keep maintaining geometry.sty. On 2008/09/16, at 3:30, Stephan Hennig wrote: > Martin Schr?der schrieb: >> 2008/9/15 Plamen Tanovski : >>> geometry.sty has some wrong papersizes. I sent an e-mail to the >>> author >>> but haven't got an answer. Since the address in the geometry's >>> manual >>> is almost 5 years old, maybe it is no more up to date. Does anybody >>> know Hideo Umeki's current e-mail address? >> >> Allow some time, and if that fails, you can follow the rules of the >> LPPL to become the maintainer of geometry. :-{ > > I've sent a lines option related bug report to Hideo Umeki in May and > July 2007 without any response. In case someone can't wait any > more ... > > Best regards, > Stephan Hennig > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > Haruhiko Okumura Faculty of Education, Mie University From mahi2308 at rediffmail.com Wed Sep 17 13:39:37 2008 From: mahi2308 at rediffmail.com (mahi) Date: 17 Sep 2008 11:39:37 -0000 Subject: [texhax] hyperref Message-ID: <20080917113937.31117.qmail@f4mail-235-220.rediffmail.com> Hi I am MikTeX user, i am creating a pdf using hyperref.sty with dvips option, after converting to dvi + ps + pdf when i click that link in pdf for(reference, figures etc.......) it is not going to the proper place just its going to the particular page, but if i use same package with pdftex option the links goes to the particular references or figure, how can i fix this bug for dvips option. I might not be very clear, but basically i want to convert a hyper linked pdf using dvi + ps + pdf, and in pdf when i click to the reference citation that should go to the particular number of reference section not particular page e.g. In text [15] if i click this in pdf it should go to the reference [15]. Thanks for your answers. Maheshwari Maheshwari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080917/e7548b54/attachment.html From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Wed Sep 17 14:29:01 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:29:01 +0200 Subject: [texhax] hyperref In-Reply-To: <20080917113937.31117.qmail@f4mail-235-220.rediffmail.com> References: <20080917113937.31117.qmail@f4mail-235-220.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: mahi skrev: > I am MikTeX user, i am creating a pdf using hyperref.sty with dvips > option, after converting to dvi + ps + pdf when i click that link in pdf > for(reference, figures etc.......) it is not going to the proper place > just its going to the particular page, but if i use same package with > pdftex option the links goes to the particular references or figure, how > can i fix this bug for dvips option. hyperref can detect if you compile with pdflatex directly to pdf or with latex to dvi. In the latter case hyperref assumes you use dvips + ps2pdf to get the pdf. You don't need to specify dvips by option. > I might not be very clear, but basically i want to convert a hyper > linked pdf using dvi + ps + pdf, and in pdf when i click to the > reference citation that should go to the particular number of reference > section not particular page e.g. In text [15] if i click this in pdf it > should go to the reference [15]. \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage{lipsum} \usepackage{hyperref} \begin{document} \ref{sec:foo} \lipsum[1-20] \section{Foo} \label{sec:foo} \lipsum[1] \end{document} The above works with both pdflatex and latex->dvips->ps2pdf on my MiKTeX system. You must be doing something differently. From mahi2308 at rediffmail.com Thu Sep 18 05:36:11 2008 From: mahi2308 at rediffmail.com (mahi) Date: 18 Sep 2008 03:36:11 -0000 Subject: [texhax] hyperref Message-ID: <20080918033611.15018.qmail@f4mail-235-143.rediffmail.com> HI ? Thanks for the reply. The example what u have given is write only its working for me also, but this example (dvips) doesn't create a link in the pdf,only pdflatex creates the link. I wanted to know if there's a method to compile pdflatex without disturbing the figures (figures are in pdf format), all the figure i am converting from eps to pdf for pdflatex purpose because it will not read .eps files and i don't want to use .jpg format. But the problem is when i compile tex file using pdflatex, inside the figures some characters are not displaying because in eps format Open Type Fonts fonts have been used, and pdflatex using type1 fonts and type1 have only 256 characters and that character will not come under 256. Because of this problem i am creating a pdf with dvi+ps+pfd option and in hyperref packages i am giving option as a dvips. On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 Martin Heller wrote : >mahi skrev: > > I am MikTeX user, i am creating a pdf using hyperref.sty with dvips > > option, after converting to dvi + ps + pdf when i click that link in pdf > > for(reference, figures etc.......) it is not going to the proper place > > just its going to the particular page, but if i use same package with > > pdftex option the links goes to the particular references or figure, how > > can i fix this bug for dvips option. > >hyperref can detect if you compile with pdflatex directly to pdf >or with latex to dvi. In the latter case hyperref assumes you use >dvips + ps2pdf to get the pdf. You don't need to specify dvips by >option. > > > I might not be very clear, but basically i want to convert a hyper > > linked pdf using dvi + ps + pdf, and in pdf when i click to the > > reference citation that should go to the particular number of reference > > section not particular page e.g. In text [15] if i click this in pdf it > > should go to the reference [15]. > >\documentclass[a4paper]{article} >\usepackage{lipsum} >\usepackage{hyperref} >\begin{document} >\ref{sec:foo} >\lipsum[1-20] >\section{Foo} >\label{sec:foo} >\lipsum[1] >\end{document} > >The above works with both pdflatex and latex->dvips->ps2pdf on my >MiKTeX system. You must be doing something differently. > >_______________________________________________ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ >More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > >Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax >Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org Maheshwari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080918/5a2c784b/attachment.html From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Thu Sep 18 09:20:23 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:20:23 +0200 Subject: [texhax] hyperref In-Reply-To: <20080918033611.15018.qmail@f4mail-235-143.rediffmail.com> References: <20080918033611.15018.qmail@f4mail-235-143.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: mahi skrev: > I wanted to know if there's a method to compile pdflatex without > disturbing the figures (figures are in pdf format), all the figure i am > converting from eps to pdf for pdflatex purpose because it will not read > .eps files and i don't want to use .jpg format. But the problem is when > i compile tex file using pdflatex, inside the figures some characters > are not displaying because in eps format Open Type Fonts fonts have been > used, and pdflatex using type1 fonts and type1 have only 256 characters > and that character will not come under 256. Did the chararacters display before you included the pdf figure in the document? > Because of this problem i am creating a pdf with dvi+ps+pfd option and > in hyperref packages i am giving option as a dvips. Make a minimal example that demonstrates the problem(s) and put the original eps and pdf figures somewere online so others can test. From mailing_list at arcor.de Thu Sep 18 11:35:51 2008 From: mailing_list at arcor.de (Stephan Hennig) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:35:51 +0200 Subject: [texhax] geometry.sty author's e-mail In-Reply-To: References: <20080915123209.GA7201@mail.tanovski.de> <68c491a60809150838m1f90day42d7fafba121ce56@mail.gmail.com> <48CEA9D2.1060403@arcor.de> Message-ID: <48D220F7.4090501@arcor.de> Haruhiko Okumura schrieb: > Dr. Umeki can be reached at latexgeometry at gmail dot com. > I understand that he will keep maintaining geometry.sty. Fine, thanks! I'll try to contact him again. Best regards, Stephan Hennig From rajurenjitgrover at yahoo.com Fri Sep 19 14:07:55 2008 From: rajurenjitgrover at yahoo.com (Raju Grover) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [texhax] Sir, Can you help me! Message-ID: <297979.74306.qm@web39108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Respected Sir, Can you tell me how I do this in Latex. suppose I have this in the begining of me .tex file \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem} If I write \begin{theorem} \end{theorem} then it will print Theorem 1. If I write it again, it will print Theorem 2. How do I avoid printing ``1." in the first example and ``2." in the second example. I mean I want to avoid printing the number after Theorem. Please tell me how I may do it. If you want I can pay you Thanking you yours sicnerly Raju Grover. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080919/7e4a6540/attachment.html From edsko at edsko.net Fri Sep 19 15:03:30 2008 From: edsko at edsko.net (Edsko de Vries) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:03:30 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Sir, Can you help me! In-Reply-To: <297979.74306.qm@web39108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <297979.74306.qm@web39108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080919130330.GA24631@netsoc.tcd.ie> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 05:07:55AM -0700, Raju Grover wrote: > Respected Sir, > > Can you tell me how I do this in Latex. > > suppose I have this in the begining of me .tex file > > \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem} Use \newtheorem*. You'll need the amsthm package: \usepackage{amsthm} And no, you don't have to pay me :) Edsko From tonightsthenight at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 00:27:52 2008 From: tonightsthenight at gmail.com (Sam Albers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:27:52 -0700 Subject: [texhax] File Not Found: Importing Graphics Message-ID: Hello all, I am trying to create my first LaTex document. I am using TexMaker as a frontend, running Ubuntu 8.04 as my OS. I have created a few figures using R with both the .eps and .png file format. Now I wish to import these into my LaTex document. I thought this would be pretty easy and doubly easu considering I was using TexMaker. Here is what I have done to try and enter these figures: \documentclass[12pt]{article} \usepackage{graphicx}[dvips] \begin{figure} \centering \includegraphics[scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} \caption{This is a test.} \end{figure} \end{document} This portion of my document returns this error: LaTeX Warning: File `Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png' not found on input line 48. ! LaTeX Error: File `Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png' not found. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.48 ...scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} Try typing to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X to quit. ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI .png (no BoundingBox). See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.48 ...scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} Try typing to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X to quit. File: Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png Graphic file (type eps) Basically, I can't figure out why LaTex can't find my file. I have tried entering the path manually and using the includegraphics function within TexMaker using both an .eps file and .png. In both cases my .dvi output simply displays the title of the figure and an empty black box. I know this is super simple but all the documentation I have been able to find hasn't been able to address my problem. Am I loading up the wrong driver? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080922/9a4ebdab/attachment.html From senthil.debian at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 05:52:14 2008 From: senthil.debian at gmail.com (Senthil Kumar M) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:52:14 +0900 Subject: [texhax] File Not Found: Importing Graphics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56b822010809222052p163b0d44g30c32004e864adc7@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Sam Albers wrote: > This portion of my document returns this error: > > LaTeX Warning: File `Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png' not found on input > line > 48. Hi Sam, I have not used Texmaker, but I think it may be because of the spaces in your folder and filenames ? Have you tried a EPS or PNG file that does not have any space in the filename and is present in your current directory ? > Basically, I can't figure out why LaTex can't find my file. I have tried > entering the path manually and using the includegraphics function within > TexMaker using both an .eps file and .png. In both cases my .dvi output > simply displays the title of the figure and an empty black box. I know this The DVI output may not show the graphics in your document correctly. Try to convert the DVI file to either PS or PDF using either: dvips filename.dvi -o (or) dvipdf filename.dvi filename.pdf and check if the PS or PDF file is all right. HTH, Senthil From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Sep 23 06:31:28 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:31:28 -0500 Subject: [texhax] File Not Found: Importing Graphics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19D4F9D9-C3F0-44A2-AEF5-0A21AC86A03A@mac.com> On 22 Sep, 2008, at 17:27, Sam Albers wrote: > Hello all, > > I am trying to create my first LaTex document. I am using TexMaker > as a frontend, running Ubuntu 8.04 as my OS. I have created a few > figures using R with both the .eps and .png file format. To complement Senthil Kumar's reply, 1) If you want to use png images, typeset with pdfLaTeX; there is a button for that in TeXmaker. > \documentclass[12pt]{article} > \usepackage{graphicx}[dvips] ^ (And anyway, not like this, but \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx}.) > \begin{figure} > \centering > \includegraphics[scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} As Senthil Kumar said, don't use spaces; and better yet, put all your figures (EPS and PNG) in a single directory (say, Graphs) inside your working directory, and then, 2) \documentclass[12pt]{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \usepackage{epstopdf} %<- To convert your EPS files to PDF \epstopdfsetup{update,prepend}%<- This checks if your EPS file has % changed and, if so, updates the % the PDF file \graphicspath{{./Graphs/}} %<- Then no need to type the whole path \begin{document} \begin{figure} \centering \includegraphics[scale=1]{Color-Contour-SLI.png} \caption{This is a test.} \end{figure} \end{document} Best, Axel From mahi2308 at rediffmail.com Tue Sep 23 08:59:35 2008 From: mahi2308 at rediffmail.com (mahi) Date: 23 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0000 Subject: [texhax] File Not Found: Importing Graphics Message-ID: <20080923065935.22665.qmail@f4mail-235-148.rediffmail.com> ? Hi I never used TexMaker, but i think the below one works \begin{figure} \centering \includegraphics[10cm, 5cm][10cm, 5cm]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} \caption{This is a test.} \end{figure} "[10cm, 5cm][10cm, 5cm]" it is the width of the bounding box you can the value according to your figure measurement. On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 Sam Albers wrote : >Hello all, > >I am trying to create my first LaTex document. I am using TexMaker as a >frontend, running Ubuntu 8.04 as my OS. I have created a few figures using R >with both the .eps and .png file format. Now I wish to import these into my >LaTex document. I thought this would be pretty easy and doubly easu >considering I was using TexMaker. Here is what I have done to try and enter >these figures: > >\documentclass[12pt]{article} >\usepackage{graphicx}[dvips] > >\begin{figure} >\centering >\includegraphics[scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} >\caption{This is a test.} >\end{figure} >\end{document} > >This portion of my document returns this error: > >LaTeX Warning: File `Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png' not found on input >line >48. >! LaTeX Error: File `Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png' not found. >See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. >Type H for immediate help. >... >l.48 ...scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} >Try typing to proceed. >If that doesn't work, type X to quit. >! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in Graphs PNG/Color Contour >SLI >.png (no BoundingBox). >See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. >Type H for immediate help. >... >l.48 ...scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} >Try typing to proceed. >If that doesn't work, type X to quit. >File: Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png Graphic file (type eps) > > >Basically, I can't figure out why LaTex can't find my file. I have tried >entering the path manually and using the includegraphics function within >TexMaker using both an .eps file and .png. In both cases my .dvi output >simply displays the title of the figure and an empty black box. I know this >is super simple but all the documentation I have been able to find hasn't >been able to address my problem. Am I loading up the wrong driver? Any help >would be greatly appreciated. > >Sam >_______________________________________________ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ >More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > >Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax >Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org Maheshwari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080923/a0c97779/attachment.html From toms at ncifcrf.gov Tue Sep 23 13:05:17 2008 From: toms at ncifcrf.gov (Tom Schneider) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] File Not Found: Importing Graphics In-Reply-To: from Sam Albers at "Sep 22, 2008 03:27:52 pm" Message-ID: <200809231105.m8NB5HMA004324@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> Sam: > \includegraphics[scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} As someone else pointed out your problem may be the spaces. Spaces are used for parsing in many unix systems unless you put quote marks around the name. I don't know if that can be done in LaTeX. I wasn't able to replicate your example (I got a different error message), but I avoid the problem generally by replacing spaces in file names with underscores. I have a script for that (written in - ugh! - tcsh) called usfn. I have released it at: ftp://ftp.ncifcrf.gov/pub/delila/usfn It goes through all files in a directory and changes spaces to underscores. It also changes some other characters that cause parsing problems, see the documentation. Tom Dr. Thomas D. Schneider National Institutes of Health National Cancer Institute Center for Cancer Research Nanobiology Program Molecular Information Theory Group Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201 toms at ncifcrf.gov permanent email: toms at alum.mit.edu http://www.ccrnp.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/ From g_thaler at fastmail.fm Tue Sep 23 11:14:16 2008 From: g_thaler at fastmail.fm (g_thaler at fastmail.fm) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:14:16 -0700 Subject: [texhax] BurningTeXLive 2008 on DVD Message-ID: <1222161256.14002.1275457171@webmail.messagingengine.com> Dear Support Group, First of all let me thank you for all the time and work you are investing in the TeXLive project. TeXLive has become for me a very interesting and stable (La)TeX distribution not only for Linux but also for Win32 systems. But I think I have encountered a tiny bug in the description of obtaining the TeXLive iso file. At http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html you write: " ... The image is compressed with lzma. The results are much superior to zip (or bzip2 or gzip), and for the file this size, it's worth it. If needed, get the sources for lzma utilities and/or the lzma binaries, including Windows, that we've compiled for TeX Live. From a command prompt, run lzmadec texlive2008.iso to decompress it. ..." Well, I'm not very experienced as Unix or Windows User, I just wanted to download and burn the ISO file on DVD on my Windows Vista PC. So I followed your instructions, but it did'nt work. There is no command lzmadec. - Perhaps you mean the program lzmadec.win32.exe. OK, at I have found So I have downloaded the file lzmadec.win32.exe and executed the command lzmadec.win32 texlive2008-20080822.iso.lzma texlive2008-20080822.iso and waited. But nothing happened. So I guess your description is incorrect once more. Please can you help me to do the right things in olrder to burn a TeXLive DVD? Thanks in andvance G?nter Thaler -- g_thaler at fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Tue Sep 23 18:21:46 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:21:46 -0300 Subject: [texhax] BurningTeXLive 2008 on DVD In-Reply-To: <1222161256.14002.1275457171@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1222161256.14002.1275457171@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <48D9179A.8050000@kalinowski.com.br> g_thaler at fastmail.fm escreveu: > Dear Support Group, > > First of all let me thank you for all the time and work you are > investing in the TeXLive project. TeXLive has become for me a very > interesting and stable (La)TeX distribution not only for Linux but also > for Win32 systems. > > But I think I have encountered a tiny bug in the description of > obtaining the TeXLive iso file. > > At http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html you write: > > " ... > The image is compressed with lzma. The results are much superior to zip > (or bzip2 or gzip), and for the file this size, it's worth it. If > needed, get the sources for lzma utilities and/or the lzma binaries, > including Windows, that we've compiled for TeX Live. From a command > prompt, run lzmadec texlive2008.iso to decompress > it. > ..." > > Well, I'm not very experienced as Unix or Windows User, I just wanted to > download and burn the ISO file on DVD on my Windows Vista PC. So I > followed your instructions, but it did'nt work. There is no command > lzmadec. > > - Perhaps you mean the program lzmadec.win32.exe. OK, at I have found So > I have downloaded the file lzmadec.win32.exe and executed the command > lzmadec.win32 texlive2008-20080822.iso.lzma texlive2008-20080822.iso and > waited. But nothing happened. So I guess your description is incorrect > once more Note the < and > signs in the command line. It should be lzmadec.win32 < texlive2008-20080822.iso.lzma > texlive2008-20080822.iso *** On the other hand, I think that the average Windows user will have a lot of trouble with that decompression, many wouldn't even know what command prompt is or what it means to type a command line. -- Eduardo M Kalinowski eduardo at kalinowski.com.br From l.iacovone at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 20:48:51 2008 From: l.iacovone at gmail.com (Leonardo Iacovone) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:48:51 -0400 Subject: [texhax] take out date from paper Message-ID: <5b73c1670809231148s5dde8b27l5502db7fe8222217@mail.gmail.com> hi! Does anybody know how could I take out the date from a latex article? By default it is putting in the date of "today" but I want to take it out. Thanks a lot! Leo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080923/08ef0764/attachment.html From millstadtf at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 20:56:54 2008 From: millstadtf at gmail.com (Robert Wilson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:56:54 -0700 Subject: [texhax] take out date from paper In-Reply-To: <5b73c1670809231148s5dde8b27l5502db7fe8222217@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b73c1670809231148s5dde8b27l5502db7fe8222217@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44ff02430809231156n7283a00t63be75c278ec598f@mail.gmail.com> Leo, Use the \date{} command. If you feed it no arguments, it will leave the date blank; otherwise, you can put whatever you want in there. Cheers, Bob On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Leonardo Iacovone wrote: > hi! > > Does anybody know how could I take out the date from a latex article? By > default it is putting in the date of "today" but I want to take it out. > > Thanks a lot! > > Leo > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080923/dcc2d3b9/attachment.html From johnp at palmyra.uklinux.net Tue Sep 23 21:18:11 2008 From: johnp at palmyra.uklinux.net (John Palmer) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:18:11 +0100 Subject: [texhax] take out date from paper In-Reply-To: <5b73c1670809231148s5dde8b27l5502db7fe8222217@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b73c1670809231148s5dde8b27l5502db7fe8222217@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200809232018.11154.johnp@palmyra.uklinux.net> On Tuesday 23 September 2008 19:48:51 Leonardo Iacovone wrote: > Does anybody know how could I take out the date from a latex article? By > default it is putting in the date of "today" but I want to take it out. Before \maketitle put \date{} %if you really want no date at all or else \date{whatever text you want to put in place of "today"}. But, IMO, every good document has an author, a title, and a date :-) best wishes, John -- John Palmer Preston near Weymouth, Dorset, England e-mail: johnp at bcs.org.uk (plain text preferred) website: http://www.palmyra.uklinux.net/ From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Tue Sep 23 21:46:26 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:46:26 +0200 Subject: [texhax] File Not Found: Importing Graphics In-Reply-To: <200809231105.m8NB5HMA004324@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> References: <200809231105.m8NB5HMA004324@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> Message-ID: <18649.18322.198530.719095@zaphod.ms25.net> Tom Schneider writes: > Sam: > > > \includegraphics[scale=1]{Graphs PNG/Color Contour SLI.png} > > As someone else pointed out your problem may be the spaces. Spaces > are used for parsing in many unix systems unless you put quote marks > around the name. I don't know if that can be done in LaTeX. Recent versions of pdftex (at least) support spaces in filenames. The \input primitive had been extended. Now you can say \input "foo bar" in plain tex or \input{"foo bar"} in latex. To be more precise, \input is a primitive, not a macro. All macros which are using this primitive will inherit the new behavior. Since \includegraphics is a macro which depends on \input, I assume that you can quote spaces in filenames there too. What probably does not work are filenames with consecutive spaces. tex (the program) regards any number of space tokens as one space token. The behavior depends on the format file you are using. It can be changed there. BTW, I often see that people recommend not to use spaces in filenames. I disagree here. All operating systems available today support spaces in filenames somehow. If you are using a GUI, you'll have to fill out a form and it is not obvious which characters are allowed or not in the "filename" field. It would be more helpful if people don't care about spaces in filenames but file a bug report if something doesn't work as expected. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From frainj at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 22:08:35 2008 From: frainj at gmail.com (John C Frain) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:08:35 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Fwd: BurningTeXLive 2008 on DVD In-Reply-To: References: <1222161256.14002.1275457171@webmail.messagingengine.com> <48D9179A.8050000@kalinowski.com.br> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John C Frain Date: 2008/9/23 Subject: Re: [texhax] BurningTeXLive 2008 on DVD To: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI I have downloaded the .iso.lzma, decompressed it with the tex-live program and all went well.I do not have access to the compressed file at home but i would imagine that the program 7-zip would also decompress the lmza file as several other decompression programs will. 7-zip for windows does have a gui interface and the non command line user might be more comfortable with it. The texlive version is very small and appears to be very efficient - as one would expect from that source. Best Regards 2008/9/23 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI : > g_thaler at fastmail.fm escreveu: >> Dear Support Group, >> >> First of all let me thank you for all the time and work you are >> investing in the TeXLive project. TeXLive has become for me a very >> interesting and stable (La)TeX distribution not only for Linux but also >> for Win32 systems. >> >> But I think I have encountered a tiny bug in the description of >> obtaining the TeXLive iso file. >> >> At http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html you write: >> >> " ... >> The image is compressed with lzma. The results are much superior to zip >> (or bzip2 or gzip), and for the file this size, it's worth it. If >> needed, get the sources for lzma utilities and/or the lzma binaries, >> including Windows, that we've compiled for TeX Live. From a command >> prompt, run lzmadec texlive2008.iso to decompress >> it. >> ..." >> >> Well, I'm not very experienced as Unix or Windows User, I just wanted to >> download and burn the ISO file on DVD on my Windows Vista PC. So I >> followed your instructions, but it did'nt work. There is no command >> lzmadec. >> >> - Perhaps you mean the program lzmadec.win32.exe. OK, at I have found So >> I have downloaded the file lzmadec.win32.exe and executed the command >> lzmadec.win32 texlive2008-20080822.iso.lzma texlive2008-20080822.iso and >> waited. But nothing happened. So I guess your description is incorrect >> once more > > Note the < and > signs in the command line. It should be > > lzmadec.win32 < texlive2008-20080822.iso.lzma > texlive2008-20080822.iso > > > *** > > On the other hand, I think that the average Windows user will have a lot > of trouble with that decompression, many wouldn't even know what command > prompt is or what it means to type a command line. > > -- > Eduardo M Kalinowski > eduardo at kalinowski.com.br > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -- John C Frain Trinity College Dublin Dublin 2 Ireland www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html mailto:frainj at tcd.ie mailto:frainj at gmail.com -- John C Frain Trinity College Dublin Dublin 2 Ireland www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html mailto:frainj at tcd.ie mailto:frainj at gmail.com From toms at ncifcrf.gov Tue Sep 23 23:15:29 2008 From: toms at ncifcrf.gov (Tom Schneider) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] take out date from paper In-Reply-To: <200809232018.11154.johnp@palmyra.uklinux.net> from John Palmer at "Sep 23, 2008 08:18:11 pm" Message-ID: <200809232115.m8NLFTkI012616@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> > > Does anybody know how could I take out the date from a latex article? By > > default it is putting in the date of "today" but I want to take it out. > > Before \maketitle put \date{} %if you really want no date at all > or else \date{whatever text you want to put in place of "today"}. > > But, IMO, every good document has an author, a title, and a date :-) Agreed, but I prefer the date to be the date I wrote the document (along with a version number and file name), not the date that the document happened to be printed. The date of the document creation is more useful. Tom Dr. Thomas D. Schneider National Institutes of Health National Cancer Institute Center for Cancer Research Nanobiology Program Molecular Information Theory Group Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201 toms at ncifcrf.gov permanent email: toms at alum.mit.edu http://www.ccrnp.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/ From saegesser.w at bluewin.ch Tue Sep 23 20:42:22 2008 From: saegesser.w at bluewin.ch (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Walter_S=E4gesser?=) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:42:22 +0200 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 Message-ID: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> The distribution of the texlive2008.iso as a LZMA compression is unbearable. A really bad idea. No doubt it compresses better, but on every and each PC/MAC/Linux you have an unzipper ready to run. Rather download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. Best regards Walter S?gesser -- Walter S?gesser, Sennh?ttenstr. 16, CH-8635 D?rnten +41 (0)55 240 61 13 saegesser.w at bluewin.ch From karl at freefriends.org Tue Sep 23 23:51:36 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:51:36 -0500 Subject: [texhax] File Not Found: Importing Graphics In-Reply-To: <18649.18322.198530.719095@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <200809232151.m8NLpaf18407@f7.net> \input{"foo bar"} in latex. To be more precise, \input is a primitive, not a macro. Just for the record, \input *is* a macro in LaTeX (otherwise the braces would not work). The LaTeX \input redefines (and uses) the TeX \input primitive. (Reinhard, I know you know this, like I said, just for the record ....) karl From karl at freefriends.org Wed Sep 24 00:01:01 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:01:01 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Fwd: BurningTeXLive 2008 on DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200809232201.m8NM11221994@f7.net> The texlive version is very small and appears to be very efficient - as one would expect from that source. Thanks for the kudos, but we (TL) didn't write any of the lzma tools ourselves. The format was invented by Igor Pavlov (who wrote 7-zip), and we use the lzmadec from the lzma-utils (http://tukaani.org/lzma). Technically, it is essentially the standard "deflate" ([g]zip) algorithm, but with a vastly increased dictionary size. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZMA Best, Karl From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Wed Sep 24 00:34:26 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:34:26 +0200 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <18649.28402.455668.961902@zaphod.ms25.net> Walter S?gesser writes: > The distribution of the texlive2008.iso as a LZMA compression is > unbearable. A really bad idea. No doubt it compresses better, but on > every and each PC/MAC/Linux you have an unzipper ready to run. Rather > download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. Dear Walter, what you say is pure crap. Sorry. Do you really need the ISO image? The preferred way to install TeX Live is to use the network installer. I could explain why TL-2008 is using lzma compression but I don't see any good reason to do it. There is a very good reason to use lzma compression indeed. But since you didn't ask but complained quite impolitely, I'm not willing to waste my time. Sorry. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Wed Sep 24 00:11:23 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:11:23 -0300 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> Walter S?gesser wrote: > The distribution of the texlive2008.iso as a LZMA compression is > unbearable. A really bad idea. No doubt it compresses better, but on > every and each PC/MAC/Linux you have an unzipper ready to run. Rather > download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. > If it's in zip format, you'll have to run a decompressor after in the same way. However, I do agree that the instructions for decompressing in Windows (involving the command prompt, redirection, etc.) are too complicated for the average Windows user. If some graphical decompressor (WinRar, 7zip, or whatever) supports decompressing lzma files, that tool should be described. -- God doesn't play dice. -- Albert Einstein Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo at kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Wed Sep 24 01:02:51 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:02:51 +0200 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> Message-ID: <18649.30107.912389.935077@zaphod.ms25.net> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: > Walter S?gesser wrote: > > The distribution of the texlive2008.iso as a LZMA compression is > > unbearable. A really bad idea. No doubt it compresses better, but on > > every and each PC/MAC/Linux you have an unzipper ready to run. Rather > > download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. > > > > If it's in zip format, you'll have to run a decompressor after in the > same way. > > However, I do agree that the instructions for decompressing in Windows > (involving the command prompt, redirection, etc.) are too complicated > for the average Windows user. If some graphical decompressor (WinRar, > 7zip, or whatever) supports decompressing lzma files, that tool should > be described. Eh??? What the fuck are you talking about???????? What do you mean with "the instructions for decompressing in Windows"??????? Go to http://tug.org/texlive and follow the instructions given there. Everything else is bullshit. Regrards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Wed Sep 24 01:25:36 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:25:36 -0300 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <18649.30107.912389.935077@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> <18649.30107.912389.935077@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <48D97AF0.4060306@kalinowski.com.br> Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: > > Walter S?gesser wrote: > > > The distribution of the texlive2008.iso as a LZMA compression is > > > unbearable. A really bad idea. No doubt it compresses better, but on > > > every and each PC/MAC/Linux you have an unzipper ready to run. Rather > > > download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. > > > > > > > If it's in zip format, you'll have to run a decompressor after in the > > same way. > > > > However, I do agree that the instructions for decompressing in Windows > > (involving the command prompt, redirection, etc.) are too complicated > > for the average Windows user. If some graphical decompressor (WinRar, > > 7zip, or whatever) supports decompressing lzma files, that tool should > > be described. > > Eh??? What the fuck are you talking about???????? > > What do you mean with > > "the instructions for decompressing in Windows"??????? > I'm refering to what this user posted: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/2008-September/011006.html . And those instructions (using lzmadec from the command line) are indeed in the page mentioned in the post, http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html . The ISO is useful if one wants to install TeXlive in several machines (easier than setting up a proxy, at least). PS: No need to CC me, thanks, I read the list. -- I'm glad we don't have to play in the shade. -- Golfer Bobby Jones on being told that it was 105 degrees in the shade. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo at kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb From karl at freefriends.org Wed Sep 24 01:57:11 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:57:11 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> Message-ID: <200809232357.m8NNvBI26158@f7.net> However, I do agree that the instructions for decompressing in Windows (involving the command prompt, redirection, etc.) are too complicated for the average Windows user. If some graphical decompressor (WinRar, 7zip, or whatever) supports decompressing lzma files, that tool should be described. I don't want to try to describe GUI operations in detail, it would be more confusing than helpful IMHO, but I can at least link to 7-zip so users know that it is an alternative. (I have no clue whether WinRar can decompress lzma.) Thanks, karl From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Wed Sep 24 02:44:50 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:44:50 -0300 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <200809232357.m8NNvBI26158@f7.net> References: <200809232357.m8NNvBI26158@f7.net> Message-ID: <48D98D82.6070006@kalinowski.com.br> Karl Berry wrote: > I don't want to try to describe GUI operations in detail, it would be > more confusing than helpful IMHO, but I can at least link to 7-zip so > users know that it is an alternative. You don't really know Windows users, do you? ;-) I believe the page would need some screenshots describing each stage. And even so, many users would find that incredibly difficult if it's not just double-clicking on a file and clicking "Next" repeatedly. On the other hand, these users would never know what to do with an .iso image, so perhaps it's not such a big deal after all, as long as the easy net install option is clearly indicated as the best way to install. -- Are you ever going to do the dishes? Or will you change your major to biology? Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo at kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb From karl at freefriends.org Tue Sep 23 23:46:44 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:46:44 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <200809232146.m8NLkiJ16424@f7.net> every and each PC/MAC/Linux you have an unzipper ready to run. Which is why we provide pre-made lzmadec binaries for all the platforms TL supports. Rather download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. You are welcome to distribute the uncompressed .iso yourself. We cannot afford the bandwidth. karl From karl at freefriends.org Wed Sep 24 03:08:08 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:08:08 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D98D82.6070006@kalinowski.com.br> Message-ID: <200809240108.m8O188s17434@f7.net> I believe the page would need some screenshots describing each stage. Sure, but I have no way (or desire) to create such a thing. If you (or anyone) want(s) to put one together, great. If not, the link to 7-zip is the best I can do on the GUI front. these users would never know what to do with an .iso image, so perhaps it's not such a big deal after all, Right. as long as the easy net install option is clearly indicated as the best way to install. I say it everywhere I can think of ... thanks, k From roninlord at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 02:18:17 2008 From: roninlord at gmail.com (Ranjith Unnikrishnan) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:18:17 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes Message-ID: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I have a slightly unconventional need for latex that I'm hoping you latex wizards out there can help me with. The basic problem I'm trying to solve is: Given some input plain text, create (i) an image that renders that text and also (ii) output a file that records each printed character from the input text and the corresponding bounding box coordinates of that character in the image. The first goal of creating an image from the text is the easy part, and in fact I dont really need latex to do it. The second goal is very unclear. However, given latex's outstanding ability wrt text layout, and the fact that it can also handle things like equations etc. I imagine that this layout information is computed and stored somewhere along the way, perhaps even implicitly within the dvi file. (And maybe this is preserved in ps/pdf files generated from that point on). In short, do you know of a way to extract the bounding box coordinates of the characters in the output dvi or via some other way that utilizes latex? Thanks! ~R -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080923/9626c99d/attachment.html From phil at math.wichita.edu Wed Sep 24 06:03:07 2008 From: phil at math.wichita.edu (Phillip E. Parker) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:03:07 -0400 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <18649.28402.455668.961902@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <200809240529.m8O5TpLM009723@mfe03.daimi.au.dk> On 09/24/2008 at 12:34 AM, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > > The distribution of the texlive2008.iso as a LZMA compression is > > unbearable. A really bad idea. No doubt it compresses better, but on > > every and each PC/MAC/Linux you have an unzipper ready to run. Rather > > download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. >what you say is pure crap. Sorry. Do you really need the ISO image? The >preferred way to install TeX Live is to use the network installer. >I could explain why TL-2008 is using lzma compression but I don't see any >good reason to do it. There is a very good reason to use lzma compression >indeed. But since you didn't ask but complained quite impolitely, I'm not >willing to waste my time. Sorry. And there's precisely the kind of self-righteously arrogant ignorance that makes some people never want to express themselves in public again. (In another variant, it makes Kansas such a terrible place in which to live.) The choice of a highly *nonstandard* compression/decompression algorithm little used outside the *nix coterie typifies the worst stereotypes of "my way or the highway" *nix users. (The arXiv suffered from this until Cornell humanized it somewhat.) The facts are that a network install is not an option if one is not on a suitable network. I belabor the obvious to remind us that not all users have the luxury of having their system maintained by an academic or corporate sysad. (I do at the office, but not at home.) And the question of why a more widely-used method (such as zip, or even its crippled offspring gzip) was not chosen is not at all impolite; it is most specifically pertinent. Especially when faced with the "my way or not at all" attitude epitomized by not offering individual users any options whatsoever. -- Phil Parker -------------------------------------------- URL http://www.math.wichita.edu/~pparker/ Random quote: When you drop change at a vending machine, the pennies will fall nearby, while all other coins will roll out of sight. From vivrii at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 07:36:46 2008 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:36:46 -0400 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D98D82.6070006@kalinowski.com.br> References: <200809232357.m8NNvBI26158@f7.net> <48D98D82.6070006@kalinowski.com.br> Message-ID: <19af81400809232236p101eb539q6743df0794aa3733@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Karl Berry wrote: > You don't really know Windows users, do you? ;-) > Sure not! Otherwise Windows TeX installer would pop-up every 1 min window "Are you sure that you want to install this thing? You'd better stick with Microsoft Word, man!" :-) -- Victor Ivrii, Member of PETMU* ======================== *People for Ethical Treatment of Microsoft Users From asnd at triumf.ca Wed Sep 24 08:12:18 2008 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 23 Sep 2008 23:12:18 -0700 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <18649.30107.912389.935077@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> <18649.30107.912389.935077@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: Reinhard Kotucha writes: > Eh??? What the fuck are you talking about???????? > > What do you mean with > > "the instructions for decompressing in Windows"??????? Duuuh, how about: "get the sources for lzma utilities and/or the lzma binaries, including Windows, that we've compiled for TeX Live. From a command prompt, run lzmadec texlive2008.iso to decompress it." > Go to http://tug.org/texlive and follow the instructions given there. That's where this crap comes from. Also the download page for lzma is terrible. Walter S?gesser wrote: > Rather download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. The sizes are 1.19GB vs 2.44GB for lzma vs raw, but I'll have to download the raw and zip it in order to compare sensibly. If you want to help distribute the raw iso, download it by bittorrent on a well-connected computer, and seed it. -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From vivrii at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 08:18:47 2008 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:18:47 -0400 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <200809240529.m8O5TpLM009723@mfe03.daimi.au.dk> References: <18649.28402.455668.961902@zaphod.ms25.net> <200809240529.m8O5TpLM009723@mfe03.daimi.au.dk> Message-ID: <19af81400809232318s7f7f7b38v36f6aa44a51c5e4@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Phillip E. Parker wrote: > > On 09/24/2008 at 12:34 AM, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > > >>what you say is pure crap. Sorry. Do you really need the ISO image? The >>preferred way to install TeX Live is to use the network installer. > > > And there's precisely the kind of self-righteously arrogant ignorance that > makes some people never want to express themselves in public again. (In > another variant, it makes Kansas such a terrible place in which to live.) > > The choice of a highly *nonstandard* compression/decompression algorithm > little used outside the *nix coterie typifies the worst stereotypes of "my > way or the highway" *nix users. (The arXiv suffered from this until Cornell > humanized it somewhat.) > I am not sure why Reinhard decided to demonstrate his rather limited knowledge of English 4-letter words and definitely do not condone this demo but I suspect that time spent to protest the usage of lzma would be enough not only to install and learn how to use it but also to study the whole algorithm in the details PS I am thankful to TL team for forcing me to install highly effective compression algorithm to my Mac -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From phil at math.wichita.edu Wed Sep 24 08:16:10 2008 From: phil at math.wichita.edu (Phillip E. Parker) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:16:10 -0400 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <19af81400809232318s7f7f7b38v36f6aa44a51c5e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200809240723.m8O7NTXZ007744@mfe02.daimi.au.dk> On 09/24/2008 at 02:18 AM, "Victor Ivrii" wrote: > I suspect that time spent to protest the usage of lzma would be enough >not only to install and learn how to use it but also to study the whole >algorithm in the details Bull pucky. That's just more of the same. To belabor what should be, but clearly is not, obvious: not every LaTeX user is either a C coder or is sufficient knowledgeable about algorithmics to do what you so blithely posit. Nor is every user of LaTeX drooling in anticipation of learning how to use the latestest and greatest (de)compressors, especially knowing that it's just so this week. PS The last phrase is a US joke in re being hypertrendoid. -- Phil Parker -------------------------------------------- URL http://www.math.wichita.edu/~pparker/ Random quote: You'd think that people who don't make mistakes would get awfully tired of doing nothing. From johnp at palmyra.uklinux.net Wed Sep 24 09:28:17 2008 From: johnp at palmyra.uklinux.net (John Palmer) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:28:17 +0100 Subject: [texhax] take out date from paper In-Reply-To: <200809232115.m8NLFTkI012616@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> References: <200809232115.m8NLFTkI012616@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> Message-ID: <200809240828.17384.johnp@palmyra.uklinux.net> On Tuesday 23 September 2008 22:15:29 Tom Schneider wrote: > I prefer the date to be the date I wrote the document So do I : I let LaTex use "today" while I'm revising, and replace it by a fixed date when I decide ithe document is ready to release. -- John Palmer Preston near Weymouth, Dorset, England e-mail: johnp at bcs.org.uk (plain text preferred) website: http://www.palmyra.uklinux.net/ From vivrii at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 10:44:12 2008 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:44:12 -0400 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <200809240723.m8O7NTXZ007744@mfe02.daimi.au.dk> References: <19af81400809232318s7f7f7b38v36f6aa44a51c5e4@mail.gmail.com> <200809240723.m8O7NTXZ007744@mfe02.daimi.au.dk> Message-ID: <19af81400809240144v302ca96cxaddfe0e73cc5f817@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Phillip E. Parker wrote: > > On 09/24/2008 at 02:18 AM, "Victor Ivrii" wrote: > >> I suspect that time spent to protest the usage of lzma would be enough >>not only to install and learn how to use it but also to study the whole >>algorithm in the details > > Bull pucky. That's just more of the same. Your politeness matches your knowledge > > To belabor what should be, but clearly is not, obvious: not every LaTeX user > is either a C coder or is sufficient knowledgeable about algorithmics to do > what you so blithely posit. > > Nor is every user of LaTeX drooling in anticipation of learning how to use > the latestest and greatest (de)compressors, especially knowing that it's just > so this week. TL2008 is the latest and the greatest only this year. Those who do not want to spend 5 minutes to learn a new thing probably do not need TL2008 or even TL2007 or even latex2e. \ > -- > Phil Parker > -------------------------------------------- -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From toms at ncifcrf.gov Wed Sep 24 10:53:44 2008 From: toms at ncifcrf.gov (Tom Schneider) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:53:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] take out date from paper In-Reply-To: <200809240828.17384.johnp@palmyra.uklinux.net> from John Palmer at "Sep 24, 2008 08:28:17 am" Message-ID: <200809240853.m8O8riwS025821@strawberry.ncifcrf.gov> > > I prefer the date to be the date I wrote the document > > So do I : I let LaTex use "today" while I'm revising, and replace it by a > fixed date when I decide ithe document is ready to release. I've been getting into keeping a record of what I'm doing. So in a recently submitted paper named emmgeo I have: \newcommand{\theversion}% {{version = 1.61 of emmgeo.tex 2008 Aug 12 }} % 2008 Aug 12, 1.61: margin_control - remove top_margin PRL SUBMITTED VERSION ... % 2008 Apr 26, 1.01: more typing % 2008 Apr 26, 1.00: origin from handwritten sheets. and then \date{\theversion} By doing it this way I can put \theversion anywhere I want and yet the version numbers line up nicely. I have a tool that saves and compresses the current version of the paper according to the version number (eg emmgeo.tex.1.61.Z) in my backup files. So I have some idea when I modified the paper and it's history. Tom Dr. Thomas D. Schneider National Institutes of Health National Cancer Institute Center for Cancer Research Nanobiology Program Molecular Information Theory Group Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201 toms at ncifcrf.gov permanent email: toms at alum.mit.edu http://www.ccrnp.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/ From news2 at nililand.de Wed Sep 24 10:55:23 2008 From: news2 at nililand.de (Ulrike Fischer) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:55:23 +0200 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 References: <18649.28402.455668.961902@zaphod.ms25.net> <200809240529.m8O5TpLM009723@mfe03.daimi.au.dk> Message-ID: <19d7950ee8nw3$.dlg@nililand.de> Am Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:03:07 -0400 schrieb Phillip E. Parker: > The choice of a highly *nonstandard* compression/decompression algorithm > little used outside the *nix coterie typifies the worst stereotypes of "my > way or the highway" *nix users. (The arXiv suffered from this until Cornell > humanized it somewhat.) Hm. Are you aware of the fact that miktex (a highly non-unix TeX-System) use lzma since over a year? And that 7-zip is a native windows application? To quote their website: "7-Zip works in Windows 98/ME/NT/2000/XP/Vista. There is a port of the command line version to Linux/Unix." > The facts are that a network install is not an option if one is not on a > suitable network. I belabor the obvious to remind us that not all users have > the luxury of having their system maintained by an academic or corporate > sysad. (I do at the office, but not at home.) All miktex users -- may they work at home or elsewhere -- use a "network installer" since many years to install and update packages without problems. You only need access to the web to use it. The package installer does everything: Download the lzma, decompress it, put all files where they belong, update the file caches, run updmap. Miktex also use a "network installer" for the first install (it is called setupwiz). -- Ulrike Fischer From will.adams at frycomm.com Wed Sep 24 15:39:03 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:39:03 -0400 Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes In-Reply-To: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> On Sep 23, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Ranjith Unnikrishnan wrote: > In short, do you know of a way to extract the bounding box > coordinates of the characters in the output dvi or via some other > way that utilizes latex? We just had this discussion. See the recent thread ``compile to a small PDF''. Short answer, put the characters in a box and measure the box. Long answer, look at the code for the preview.sty package. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From barr at math.mcgill.ca Wed Sep 24 16:13:59 2008 From: barr at math.mcgill.ca (Michael Barr) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] \input Message-ID: I know that \input is a macro in LaTeX. Nonetheless, through some magic I have never tried to track down, both \input diagxy and \input{diagxy} both give the same result. Michael Barr From roninlord at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 16:35:24 2008 From: roninlord at gmail.com (Ranjith Unnikrishnan) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:35:24 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes In-Reply-To: <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> References: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> Message-ID: <9f42a6dc0809240735v7c00d68cp10f8577b8885cb3c@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, I should have worded my question more carefully...My intention is *not* to get one bounding box for all the characters together, but to get the bounding box coordinates of *each* character in the input text. So if the text I want to render is "$y = x^2$", I'd like to be able to obtain the bbox coordinates of "y", "=", "x" and "2". Suggestions? Thanks! ~R On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:39 AM, William Adams wrote: > On Sep 23, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Ranjith Unnikrishnan wrote: > > In short, do you know of a way to extract the bounding box coordinates of >> the characters in the output dvi or via some other way that utilizes latex? >> > > > We just had this discussion. > > See the recent thread ``compile to a small PDF''. > > Short answer, put the characters in a box and measure the box. > > Long answer, look at the code for the preview.sty package. > > William > > -- > William Adams > senior graphic designer > Fry Communications > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Aaaah yes, now you have to: master the 7th level 6 times; ave 5 million guldern in your treasure chest; and have Power 4 eyes before you are even allowed to read that bit of the code! chris From will.adams at frycomm.com Wed Sep 24 17:09:31 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:09:31 -0400 Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes In-Reply-To: <9f42a6dc0809240735v7c00d68cp10f8577b8885cb3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> <9f42a6dc0809240735v7c00d68cp10f8577b8885cb3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Ranjith Unnikrishnan wrote: > My intention is *not* to get one bounding box for all the characters > together, but to get the bounding box coordinates of *each* > character in the input text. So if the text I want to render is "$y > = x^2$", I'd like to be able to obtain the bbox coordinates of "y", > "=", "x" and "2". Then put each character into a box and measure each box. See Philip Taylor's response in the ``compile to a small pdf'' thread for a code sample which can be adapted to single characters. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From mdoob at ccu.umanitoba.ca Wed Sep 24 17:38:08 2008 From: mdoob at ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Doob) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:38:08 -0500 Subject: [texhax] \input In-Reply-To: <18650.18946.467137.245809@fell.open.ac.uk> References: <18650.18946.467137.245809@fell.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: <200809241038.31989.mdoob@ccu.umanitoba.ca> On Wednesday 24 September 2008 9:08 am, Chris Rowley wrote: > Michael > > > I know that \input is a macro in LaTeX. Nonetheless, through some magic I > > have never tried to track down, both > > \input diagxy > > and > > \input{diagxy} > > both give the same result. > > Aaaah yes, now you have to: master the 7th level 6 times; ave 5 million guldern in your > treasure chest; and have Power 4 eyes before you are even allowed to > read that bit of the code! Or you can observe that the definition of \input start with @\ifnextchar\bgroup and branches accordingly :-). Cheers, Michael -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Doob ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Telephone: (204) 474-9796 Department of Mathematics ? ? ? Fax: (204) 474-7606 University of Manitoba ? ? ? ? ?email: Michael_Doob at umanitoba.ca Winnipeg, MB, Canada R3T 2N2 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From roninlord at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 20:01:55 2008 From: roninlord at gmail.com (Ranjith Unnikrishnan) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:01:55 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes In-Reply-To: References: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> <9f42a6dc0809240735v7c00d68cp10f8577b8885cb3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9f42a6dc0809241101g4ed62240jebedf478e13bcf09@mail.gmail.com> Forgive my ignorance, but it seems like Philip's suggestion ( http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/2008-September/010964.html) gives a way to get a compact pdf file for a given text (or equation) string, and that your suggestion is to do this procedure for each character, and then compute the dimensions of each resulting image as the bounding box for the respective character. But that is not what I want at all! Following the above procedure would give me the dimensions that each character requires *in isolation*. Working with my previous example, if my text is $y = x ^2$, I want the coordinates (not the dimensions!) of the bounding boxes of the individual characters ("y", "=", etc.) as they would occur when rendered within the whole $y=x^2$ string. Consider the image obtained from rendering $y=x^2$. Imagine a 2D coordinate system on this image with the origin at the bottom left of the image, its x axis ranging from 0 to the width of the image and its y-axis ranging from 0 to the height of the image. I'd like output in the form of a set of tuples (left, top, right, bottom) for each of the 4 characters in the y=x^2 example, and the resulting bbox coordinates of "y" should reflect, for instance, that its "left" field is smaller in value than, say, that of the "=" character which is placed to the right of "y" when rendered in the image. So I'm essentially looking the intermediate results after the procedure that decides where exactly the characters are to be placed in the image of $y=x^2$. And no, these values cannot be obtained by simply using the bounding box dimensions of the characters rendered in isolation. For instance the dimensions of the "2" would be much larger when rendered in isolation as $2$, than when it appears as a superscript to "x" in $y=x^2$. Hope that makes the problem a little clearer. Suggestions? Thanks! ~R On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:09 AM, William Adams wrote: > On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Ranjith Unnikrishnan wrote: > > My intention is *not* to get one bounding box for all the characters >> together, but to get the bounding box coordinates of *each* character in the >> input text. So if the text I want to render is "$y = x^2$", I'd like to be >> able to obtain the bbox coordinates of "y", "=", "x" and "2". >> > > > Then put each character into a box and measure each box. > > See Philip Taylor's response in the ``compile to a small pdf'' thread for a > code sample which can be adapted to single characters. > > > William > > -- > William Adams > senior graphic designer > Fry Communications > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080924/1dd21cd4/attachment.html From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Wed Sep 24 20:15:55 2008 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd)) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:15:55 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Inappropropriate language on TeXhax list In-Reply-To: <18649.28402.455668.961902@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <18649.28402.455668.961902@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <48DA83DB.9090502@Rhul.Ac.Uk> I am surprised and concerned that there has been very little comment concerning the content of some recent messages. I note in particular that Reinhard Kotucha wrote : > what you say is pure crap. and in a later message : >> Eh??? What the fuck are you talking about???????? In my opinion, such language is both inappropriate and totally uncalled for, particularly on a public list such as this. Whilst not everyone will necessarily agree with the messages to which these replies were sent, it would have been both possible and infinitely preferable to cast the replies in a considerably more moderate and less offensive tone. Philip TAYLOR From hartmut_henkel at gmx.de Wed Sep 24 20:45:31 2008 From: hartmut_henkel at gmx.de (Hartmut Henkel) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:45:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes In-Reply-To: <9f42a6dc0809241101g4ed62240jebedf478e13bcf09@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> <9f42a6dc0809240735v7c00d68cp10f8577b8885cb3c@mail.gmail.com> <9f42a6dc0809241101g4ed62240jebedf478e13bcf09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Ranjith Unnikrishnan wrote: > Following the above procedure would give me the dimensions that each > character requires *in isolation*. Working with my previous example, > if my text is $y = x ^2$, I want the coordinates (not the dimensions!) > of the bounding boxes of the individual characters ("y", "=", etc.) as > they would occur when rendered within the whole $y=x^2$ string. if you have a little fun of hacking, the actually easiest and most straightforward way seems to be adding print statements for page coordinates (cur_h, cur_v) to the pdftex engine just at the few places where glyphs and other stuff (rules etc.) are put on the page. Regards, Hartmut From tjm1983 at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 23:39:45 2008 From: tjm1983 at gmail.com (Tim McKenzie) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:39:45 +1200 Subject: [texhax] Inappropropriate language on TeXhax list In-Reply-To: <48DA83DB.9090502@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <18649.28402.455668.961902@zaphod.ms25.net> <48DA83DB.9090502@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <9e0d35cb0809241439x3808245ama7a487fb4af70c96@mail.gmail.com> 2008/9/25 Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) : > In my opinion, such language is both inappropriate > and totally uncalled for, particularly on a public > list such as this. Whilst not everyone will > necessarily agree with the messages to which these > replies were sent, it would have been both possible > and infinitely preferable to cast the replies in > a considerably more moderate and less offensive tone. I agree. I don't think I fully understood what the argument was about, but it was obvious that it could have been carried out more politely. I didn't speak up at the time because I'm relatively new to this list, and because I didn't want to be the target of such language. Tim <>< From karl at freefriends.org Wed Sep 24 23:59:13 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:59:13 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Inappropropriate language on TeXhax list In-Reply-To: <9e0d35cb0809241439x3808245ama7a487fb4af70c96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200809242159.m8OLxDE28935@f7.net> > In my opinion, such language is both inappropriate > and totally uncalled for, particularly on a public > list such as this. For the record, I too fully agree with this. Happy TeXing, karl From sam at perseus.hcc.hawaii.edu Thu Sep 25 00:13:38 2008 From: sam at perseus.hcc.hawaii.edu (Sam Rhoads) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:13:38 -1000 (HST) Subject: [texhax] Inappropropriate language on TeXhax list Message-ID: <200809242213.m8OMDcc04228@perseus.hcc.hawaii.edu> As do I. And I was happy to see that the target of those messages did not respond in kind. Aloha, Sam Rhoads. > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:59:13 -0500 > From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) > To: texhax at tug.org > Subject: Re: [texhax] Inappropropriate language on TeXhax list > > > In my opinion, such language is both inappropriate > > and totally uncalled for, particularly on a public > > list such as this. > > For the record, I too fully agree with this. > > Happy TeXing, > karl > _______________________________________________ From roninlord at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 01:19:13 2008 From: roninlord at gmail.com (Ranjith Unnikrishnan) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:19:13 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes In-Reply-To: References: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> <9f42a6dc0809240735v7c00d68cp10f8577b8885cb3c@mail.gmail.com> <9f42a6dc0809241101g4ed62240jebedf478e13bcf09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9f42a6dc0809241619yb6446bes2a293eb380f1a626@mail.gmail.com> Hartmut, That sounds like a more promising general direction and I'd certainly be up for pursuing it. Could you advise me on what the right entry points for making these modifications would be? I haven't hacked latex or the pdftex engine before, so any details (docs, webpages on related topics etc.) would be immensely useful. Thanks! ~R On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Hartmut Henkel wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Ranjith Unnikrishnan wrote: > >> Following the above procedure would give me the dimensions that each >> character requires *in isolation*. Working with my previous example, >> if my text is $y = x ^2$, I want the coordinates (not the dimensions!) >> of the bounding boxes of the individual characters ("y", "=", etc.) as >> they would occur when rendered within the whole $y=x^2$ string. > > if you have a little fun of hacking, the actually easiest and most > straightforward way seems to be adding print statements for page > coordinates (cur_h, cur_v) to the pdftex engine just at the few places > where glyphs and other stuff (rules etc.) are put on the page. > > Regards, Hartmut > From karl at freefriends.org Thu Sep 25 02:19:09 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:19:09 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200809250019.m8P0J9L27976@f7.net> If you want to help distribute the raw iso, download it by bittorrent on a well-connected computer, and seed it. The raw iso is already available as a torrent -- http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4370550/, as given on tug.org/texlive/acquire.html. (Thanks to Phil Taylor.) Of course, many users (including me) do not have much luck in dealing with torrents, so it's not a panacea. Nothing is. karl From asnd at triumf.ca Thu Sep 25 09:33:18 2008 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 25 Sep 2008 00:33:18 -0700 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> <18649.30107.912389.935077@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: Donald Arseneau writes: > Walter S?gesser wrote: > > > Rather download 100 or even 500MB more than run after a decompressor. > > The sizes are 1.19GB vs 2.44GB for lzma vs raw, but I'll have to > download the raw and zip it in order to compare sensibly. The iso zipped with "zip -9" has a size of 1.42GB. I don't know that the 230MB saving is worth the fuss, but it is not insignificant. > If you want to help distribute the raw iso, download it by bittorrent > on a well-connected computer, and seed it. I'm still seeding. -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Thu Sep 25 09:43:55 2008 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd)) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:43:55 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes In-Reply-To: <9f42a6dc0809241619yb6446bes2a293eb380f1a626@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> <9f42a6dc0809240735v7c00d68cp10f8577b8885cb3c@mail.gmail.com> <9f42a6dc0809241101g4ed62240jebedf478e13bcf09@mail.gmail.com> <9f42a6dc0809241619yb6446bes2a293eb380f1a626@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DB413B.2020708@Rhul.Ac.Uk> I don't know if it will help, but you might like to look at the code that GUST use to produce their logo : http://www.gust.org.pl/logo.jpg I don't remember who it was who implemented this, but I suspect one of Staszek Wawrykiewicz , Bogus\l aw Jackowski or Jerzy Ludwichowski would be able to advise. Philip Taylor -------- Ranjith Unnikrishnan wrote: > Hartmut, > That sounds like a more promising general direction and I'd certainly > be up for pursuing it. Could you advise me on what the right entry > points for making these modifications would be? I haven't hacked latex > or the pdftex engine before, so any details (docs, webpages on related > topics etc.) would be immensely useful. > Thanks! > ~R From SDittmar at eureca.de Thu Sep 25 10:53:35 2008 From: SDittmar at eureca.de (Susan Dittmar) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:53:35 +0200 Subject: [texhax] [OT?] splitting poster over several pages Message-ID: <20080925085335.GA4099@eureca.de> Hi, I am looking for a little program to print a pdf poster on A4 pages on a linux box. Something like the poster program, but for pdf pages, preferably able to deal with multiple pages, able to read the bounding box from the pdf, and called from the command line. Can anyone recommend such a program? Thanks in advance, Susan From SDittmar at eureca.de Thu Sep 25 10:56:20 2008 From: SDittmar at eureca.de (Susan Dittmar) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:56:20 +0200 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> <18649.30107.912389.935077@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <20080925085620.GB4099@eureca.de> Quoting Donald Arseneau (asnd at triumf.ca): > The iso zipped with "zip -9" has a size of 1.42GB. I don't know > that the 230MB saving is worth the fuss, but it is not insignificant. It is not 230MB we are talking about. It is 230MB *per download*. Susan From vivrii at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 10:57:08 2008 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:57:08 -0400 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <48D9698B.4090708@kalinowski.com.br> <18649.30107.912389.935077@zaphod.ms25.net> Message-ID: <19af81400809250157q4adb1e68ifda07a19400a93a@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Donald Arseneau wrote: > The iso zipped with "zip -9" has a size of 1.42GB. I don't know > that the 230MB saving is worth the fuss, but it is not insignificant. There are people who are always unhappy. I had no idea what lzma is and it took few minutes not only to get source but say magic words and compile (I did not realize that tug distributes binaries) Then I set LAN distribution of raw disks (on LAN even 1 GB is not worth fuss usually) > >> If you want to help distribute the raw iso, download it by bittorrent >> on a well-connected computer, and seed it. > > I'm still seeding. Copywrite Holders Collective is coming after you; they would not believe that anyone runs bittorrent (or buys blank CDs) to distribute anything but illegal music. :-) > Victor > -- > Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From axel.retif at mac.com Thu Sep 25 11:08:16 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:08:16 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Question about \skip\footins Message-ID: Hi, I'm using the book class with no size option (therefore, 10pt with 12pt baseline skip) and a sty file where I have defined footnotes as follow: \renewcommand{\footnoterule}{\vspace*{-3pt}}% therefore, no rule between main text and footnotes; and \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip minus0.5\baselineskip} therefore I would expect \skip\footins = 12pt, plus 6pt minus 6pt (the baselineskip of main text is *indeed* 12pt); but if I put anywhere in my document footins = \the\skip\footins I get footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt Can someone explain to me why this is so? Thank you in advance. Axel From frisk.h at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 11:25:24 2008 From: frisk.h at gmail.com (Henrik Frisk) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:25:24 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Hyperref and hyperbaseurl Message-ID: <311224200809250225k78f08506hed4eedf001a1a14d@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Does anyone here have experience with the \hyperbaseurl property of hyperref. According to the documentation whatever address is in a \href will get prepended with the value of \hyperbaseurl. Now, this works fine for me for local relative url such as: \hyperbaseurl{./} \href{html/index.html}{Link to the index page} I had hoped to be able to change the hyperbaseurl to e.g. \hyperbaseurl{http://www.mysite.org} which would make my href now instead point to 'http://www.mysite.org/html/index.html' but that does not seem to be the case. What I'm trying to achieve is to change the search path for all hrefs by changeing the hyperbaseurl property, pointing to local as well as remote locations. Am I doing something wrong or is this not the functionality intended by hyperbaseurl? Is there another way to achieve the same result? Thanks for any suggestions, /henrik From frisk.h at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 11:58:42 2008 From: frisk.h at gmail.com (Henrik Frisk) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:58:42 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index Message-ID: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> Hi again, Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top of the index which looks quite odd. Thanks /henrik From axel.retif at mac.com Thu Sep 25 12:12:44 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:12:44 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> References: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 25 Sep, 2008, at 04:58, Henrik Frisk wrote: > Hi again, > > Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O > umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top > of the index which looks quite odd. I have the same problem with Spanish; the universal solution is, v.gr., \index{logica at l?gica} so it would be \index{Oxxx@?xxx}. For Spanish there is now esindex by Javier Bezos, but I haven't tried it. Maybe there is something similar for German. Best, Axel From juergen.goebel at eads.com Thu Sep 25 12:08:23 2008 From: juergen.goebel at eads.com (Goebel, Juergen) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:08:23 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> References: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Henrik Frisk wrote: > Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O > umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top > of the index which looks quite odd. Try this one: \index{Osterreich@?sterreich} or \index{Oesterreich@?sterreich} Regards, Juergen From daleif at imf.au.dk Thu Sep 25 12:32:46 2008 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:32:46 +0200 Subject: [texhax] [OT?] splitting poster over several pages In-Reply-To: <20080925085335.GA4099@eureca.de> References: <20080925085335.GA4099@eureca.de> Message-ID: <48DB68CE.9050207@imf.au.dk> Susan Dittmar wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a little program to print a pdf poster on A4 pages on a > linux box. Something like the poster program, but for pdf pages, preferably > able to deal with multiple pages, able to read the bounding box from the > pdf, and called from the command line. > > Can anyone recommend such a program? > > Thanks in advance, > you could build your own using some scripts and pdflatex + graphicx/pdfpages I do something similar do grap one half of an A3 and glue it onto a preprint to use the the title page. -- /daleif From daleif at imf.au.dk Thu Sep 25 12:34:59 2008 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:34:59 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> References: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DB6953.4010208@imf.au.dk> Henrik Frisk wrote: > Hi again, > > Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O > umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top > of the index which looks quite odd. > > Thanks > > /henrik > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org xindy, don't know if it is available on anything else than Linux yet. But on linux it can sort the danish alphabet correctly. It has loads of languages, so there should be one that suits you, otherwise you can specify your own sorting. -- /daleif From philip.ratcliffe at uninsubria.it Thu Sep 25 13:39:58 2008 From: philip.ratcliffe at uninsubria.it (Philip G. Ratcliffe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:39:58 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Question about \skip\footins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> > I'm using the book class with no size option (therefore, 10pt with > 12pt baseline skip) and a sty file where I have defined footnotes as > follow: > > \renewcommand{\footnoterule}{\vspace*{-3pt}}% > > therefore, no rule between main text and footnotes; and > > \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip > minus0.5\baselineskip} > > therefore I would expect \skip\footins = 12pt, plus 6pt minus > 6pt (the > baselineskip of main text is *indeed* 12pt); but if I put > anywhere in > my document > > footins = \the\skip\footins > > I get > > footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt That's not what I get; I just did it get footins = 12.0pt plus 6.0pt minus 6.0pt So, what you're really doing probably isn't quite as simple as your claim. Cheers, Phil From philip.ratcliffe at uninsubria.it Thu Sep 25 13:40:54 2008 From: philip.ratcliffe at uninsubria.it (Philip G. Ratcliffe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:40:54 +0200 Subject: [texhax] [OT?] splitting poster over several pages In-Reply-To: <20080925085335.GA4099@eureca.de> Message-ID: > I am looking for a little program to print a pdf poster on A4 > pages on a linux box. Something like the poster program, but > for pdf pages, preferably able to deal with multiple pages, > able to read the bounding box from the pdf, and called from > the command line. I imagine you've already considered this possibility, but what's wrong with using ps2pdf on the postscript output from poster? Cheers, Phil From axel.retif at mac.com Thu Sep 25 14:10:27 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:10:27 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Question about \skip\footins In-Reply-To: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> References: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> Message-ID: On 25 Sep, 2008, at 06:39, Philip G. Ratcliffe wrote: >> I'm using the book class with no size option (therefore, 10pt with >> 12pt baseline skip) and a sty file where I have defined footnotes as >> follow: >> >> \renewcommand{\footnoterule}{\vspace*{-3pt}}% >> >> therefore, no rule between main text and footnotes; and >> >> \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip >> minus0.5\baselineskip} >> >> therefore I would expect \skip\footins = 12pt, plus 6pt minus >> 6pt (the baselineskip of main text is *indeed* 12pt); but if I put >> anywhere in my document >> >> footins = \the\skip\footins >> >> I get >> >> footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt > > That's not what I get; I just did it get > > footins = 12.0pt plus 6.0pt minus 6.0pt > > So, what you're really doing probably isn't quite as simple as your > claim. I'm using Walter Schmidt's lucimatx.sty (from PCTeX) with option lucidasmallscale, but I have ruled that out because a) it doesn't redefine fontins anywhere, and b) as I said, the leading *is indeed* 12pt (I have a watermark 1pc grid to check that, and I get 43 lines of normalsize text with a 516pt textheight). I'll try to investigate further, to see if I find what's going on. Thanks a lot for your test and kind reply. Axel From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Thu Sep 25 14:16:13 2008 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd)) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:16:13 +0100 Subject: [texhax] [OT?] splitting poster over several pages In-Reply-To: <20080925085335.GA4099@eureca.de> References: <20080925085335.GA4099@eureca.de> Message-ID: <48DB810D.6000401@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Susan Dittmar wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a little program to print a pdf poster on A4 pages on a > linux box. Something like the poster program, but for pdf pages, preferably > able to deal with multiple pages, able to read the bounding box from the > pdf, and called from the command line. > > Can anyone recommend such a program? > > Thanks in advance, Adobe Acrobat V7 ? (And perhaps higher versions). It has the print option "Tile large pages". Philip Taylor From mdoob at ccu.umanitoba.ca Thu Sep 25 15:37:49 2008 From: mdoob at ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Doob) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:37:49 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <48DB6953.4010208@imf.au.dk> References: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> <48DB6953.4010208@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <200809250838.12126.mdoob@ccu.umanitoba.ca> On Thursday 25 September 2008 5:34 am, Lars Madsen wrote: > Henrik Frisk wrote: > > Hi again, > > > > Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O > > umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top > > of the index which looks quite odd. You could look into using utf-8. Cheers, Michael -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Doob ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Telephone: (204) 474-9796 Department of Mathematics ? ? ? Fax: (204) 474-7606 University of Manitoba ? ? ? ? ?email: Michael_Doob at umanitoba.ca Winnipeg, MB, Canada R3T 2N2 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From SDittmar at eureca.de Thu Sep 25 17:24:39 2008 From: SDittmar at eureca.de (Susan Dittmar) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:24:39 +0200 Subject: [texhax] [OT?] splitting poster over several pages In-Reply-To: References: <20080925085335.GA4099@eureca.de> Message-ID: <20080925152439.GC4099@eureca.de> Quoting Philip G. Ratcliffe (philip.ratcliffe at uninsubria.it): > > I am looking for a little program to print a pdf poster on A4 > > pages on a linux box. Something like the poster program, but > > for pdf pages, preferably able to deal with multiple pages, > > able to read the bounding box from the pdf, and called from > > the command line. > > I imagine you've already considered this possibility, but what's wrong with > using ps2pdf on the postscript output from poster? Thanks, Phil, but ps2pdf's output keeps turning out wrong bounding boxes, screwing this path :-( I will check Acrobat's tile printing abilities, thanks for the pointer. I'm quite curious if it rescales ... (I guess it will, which makes it unusable for my purpose.) Susan From SDittmar at eureca.de Thu Sep 25 17:29:12 2008 From: SDittmar at eureca.de (Susan Dittmar) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:29:12 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Hyperref and hyperbaseurl In-Reply-To: <311224200809250225k78f08506hed4eedf001a1a14d@mail.gmail.com> References: <311224200809250225k78f08506hed4eedf001a1a14d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080925152912.GD4099@eureca.de> Quoting Henrik Frisk (frisk.h at gmail.com): > I had hoped to be able to change the hyperbaseurl to e.g. > \hyperbaseurl{http://www.mysite.org} which would make my href now > instead point to 'http://www.mysite.org/html/index.html' but that does Maybe stupid question: did you check this with \hyperbaseurl{http://www.mysite.org/} ? Your first example does include the slash, the second does not. Susan From daleif at imf.au.dk Thu Sep 25 17:34:35 2008 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:34:35 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <200809250838.12126.mdoob@ccu.umanitoba.ca> References: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> <48DB6953.4010208@imf.au.dk> <200809250838.12126.mdoob@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Message-ID: <48DBAF8B.7070406@imf.au.dk> Michael Doob wrote: > On Thursday 25 September 2008 5:34 am, Lars Madsen wrote: >> Henrik Frisk wrote: >>> Hi again, >>> >>> Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O >>> umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top >>> of the index which looks quite odd. > > > You could look into using utf-8. > > Cheers, > Michael > does makeindex support uft-8? -- /daleif From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Thu Sep 25 18:39:58 2008 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd)) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:39:58 +0100 Subject: [texhax] [OT?] splitting poster over several pages In-Reply-To: <20080925152439.GC4099@eureca.de> References: <20080925085335.GA4099@eureca.de> <20080925152439.GC4099@eureca.de> Message-ID: <48DBBEDE.5020505@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Susan Dittmar wrote: > I will check Acrobat's tile printing abilities, thanks for the pointer. I'm > quite curious if it rescales ... (I guess it will, which makes it unusable > for my purpose.) No, that's the whole point : it divides the image into however many pages are needed to print it. I have used this for the Kansai rail map (which is unreadably small on A4 or even A3) and tiled to A2, I can read everything ! ** Phil. From frisk.h at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 20:54:30 2008 From: frisk.h at gmail.com (Henrik Frisk) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:54:30 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Hyperref and hyperbaseurl In-Reply-To: <20080925152912.GD4099@eureca.de> References: <311224200809250225k78f08506hed4eedf001a1a14d@mail.gmail.com> <20080925152912.GD4099@eureca.de> Message-ID: <311224200809251154p7ed49892qbc73983721d8782@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Susan Dittmar wrote: > Quoting Henrik Frisk (frisk.h at gmail.com): >> I had hoped to be able to change the hyperbaseurl to e.g. >> \hyperbaseurl{http://www.mysite.org} which would make my href now >> instead point to 'http://www.mysite.org/html/index.html' but that does > > Maybe stupid question: did you check this with > \hyperbaseurl{http://www.mysite.org/} ? > Your first example does include the slash, the second does not. > I don't think it's a stupid Q at all., but I did try it and it makes no difference, i.e. it will still not prepend the href address with the hyperbaseurl argument. The trailing slash should be there, at least for \hyperbaseurl{./} for \hyperbaseurl{.} does not work. /h From frisk.h at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 21:08:32 2008 From: frisk.h at gmail.com (Henrik Frisk) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:08:32 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <48DBAF8B.7070406@imf.au.dk> References: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> <48DB6953.4010208@imf.au.dk> <200809250838.12126.mdoob@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <48DBAF8B.7070406@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <311224200809251208r2be4acedv25e6d2e726ed7fc3@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Lars Madsen wrote: > Michael Doob wrote: >> On Thursday 25 September 2008 5:34 am, Lars Madsen wrote: >>> Henrik Frisk wrote: >>>> Hi again, >>>> >>>> Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O >>>> umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top >>>> of the index which looks quite odd. >> >> >> You could look into using utf-8. >> >> Cheers, >> Michael >> > > does makeindex support uft-8? I just tried it but it doesn't help makeidx *sort* the index alphabetically correctly. After all there is no language specific information in utf-8. However, the Scandinavian characters I tried are correctly rendered in the index with utf-8 (that is, without spelling them out) /henrik From frisk.h at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 21:46:59 2008 From: frisk.h at gmail.com (Henrik Frisk) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:46:59 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <200809251417.43765.mdoob@ccu.umanitoba.ca> References: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.com> <48DBAF8B.7070406@imf.au.dk> <311224200809251208r2be4acedv25e6d2e726ed7fc3@mail.gmail.com> <200809251417.43765.mdoob@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Message-ID: <311224200809251246p14100616w897e233624824915@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Michael Doob wrote: > On Thursday 25 September 2008 2:08 pm, Henrik Frisk wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Lars Madsen wrote: >> > Michael Doob wrote: >> >> On Thursday 25 September 2008 5:34 am, Lars Madsen wrote: >> >>> Henrik Frisk wrote: >> >>>> Hi again, >> >>>> >> >>>> Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O >> >>>> umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top >> >>>> of the index which looks quite odd. >> >> >> >> >> >> You could look into using utf-8. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Michael >> >> >> > >> > does makeindex support uft-8? >> >> I just tried it but it doesn't help makeidx *sort* the index >> alphabetically correctly. After all there is no language specific >> information in utf-8. However, the Scandinavian characters I tried are >> correctly rendered in the index with utf-8 (that is, without spelling >> them out) > > I'm on a unix machine that understands LC_COLLATE. I'm not sure if > xetex is aware of this environmental variable. Anyone out there know? > Right, I see what you mean, of course. This would be interesting to know. /h From asnd at triumf.ca Fri Sep 26 01:04:45 2008 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 25 Sep 2008 16:04:45 -0700 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <200809250019.m8P0J9L27976@f7.net> References: <200809250019.m8P0J9L27976@f7.net> Message-ID: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) writes: > If you want to help distribute the raw iso, download it by bittorrent > on a well-connected computer, and seed it. > > The raw iso is already available as a torrent -- > http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4370550/, as given on > tug.org/texlive/acquire.html. (Thanks to Phil Taylor.) Yes, that is the torrent I meant. Maybe we should put the same torrent entry on mininova... it sounds less pirated... Today I see an unsettling comment on the .lzma torrent: Compression is done with LZMA. But 7zip will *not* read the file, as far as I can tell. So the implementation of LZMA compression is a little obscure, at least for Windows users. I haven't tested this myself, and I don't know what version of 7zip the commentator was using. -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From asnd at triumf.ca Fri Sep 26 01:09:21 2008 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 25 Sep 2008 16:09:21 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Question about \skip\footins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "Axel E. Retif" writes: > \renewcommand{\footnoterule}{\vspace*{-3pt}}% That is an error! \footnoterule must consume zero vertical space. > \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip > minus0.5\baselineskip} > > therefore I would expect \skip\footins = 12pt, plus 6pt minus 6pt (the > baselineskip of main text is *indeed* 12pt); but if I put anywhere in my > document > > footins = \the\skip\footins > > I get > > footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt > > Can someone explain to me why this is so? No, we would have to know the details: either \baselineskip is still 10pt when you set \skip\footins, or \skip\footins is later changed, either by a setting you don't know about or because the first setting was in a local group. -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Fri Sep 26 03:02:10 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:02:10 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Character bounding boxes In-Reply-To: <48DB413B.2020708@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <9f42a6dc0809231718y5cf105b7h568fafa538562ba7@mail.gmail.com> <6317220E-6958-44BE-97BC-F73E12EF288B@frycomm.com> <9f42a6dc0809240735v7c00d68cp10f8577b8885cb3c@mail.gmail.com> <9f42a6dc0809241101g4ed62240jebedf478e13bcf09@mail.gmail.com> <9f42a6dc0809241619yb6446bes2a293eb380f1a626@mail.gmail.com> <48DB413B.2020708@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <18652.13458.1420.507035@zaphod.ms25.net> Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) writes: > I don't know if it will help, but you might like > to look at the code that GUST use to produce > their logo : > > http://www.gust.org.pl/logo.jpg > > I don't remember who it was who implemented this, > but I suspect one of Staszek Wawrykiewicz , > Bogus\l aw Jackowski or Jerzy Ludwichowski > would be able to advise. It's also worthwhile to look into Context. Maybe there is a macro... Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From axel.retif at mac.com Fri Sep 26 05:15:36 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:15:36 -0500 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --eureka! In-Reply-To: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> References: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> Message-ID: <85401636-9347-4B17-9AC1-94C7FC752EB0@mac.com> On 25 Sep, 2008, at 06:39, Philip G. Ratcliffe wrote: >> [AR:] I'm using the book class with no size option (therefore, 10pt >> with >> 12pt baseline skip); [with] >> >> \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip >> minus0.5\baselineskip} >> >> I would expect \skip\footins = 12pt, plus 6pt minus 6pt [but typing] >> >> footins = \the\skip\footins >> >> I get footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt > > That's not what I get; I just did it get > > footins = 12.0pt plus 6.0pt minus 6.0pt On 25 Sep, 2008, at 18:09, Donald Arseneau wrote: >> [AR:] Can someone explain to me why this is so? > > No, we would have to know the details: Literally, eureka! It's all about greek and T1 font encoding! Try this: \documentclass{book} %\usepackage[10pt]{type1ec}% <- These two don't matter: enable %\usepackage{fixltx2e}[2006/03/24]% <- them or leave them commented out \usepackage[greek,english,spanish]{babel} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip minus0.5\baselineskip} \begin{document} footins = \the\skip\footins \end{document} As such, you'll get ``footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt''. Now either delete greek in babel or comment out ``\usepackage[T1] {fontenc}'' and you'll get ``footins = 12.0pt plus 6.0pt minus 6.0pt''. Whom should I report this? Best, Axel From axel.retif at mac.com Fri Sep 26 05:47:19 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:47:19 -0500 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --footnoterule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A61770A-BFCF-443A-9E47-9C1331F9F539@mac.com> On 25 Sep, 2008, at 18:09, Donald Arseneau wrote: > "Axel E. Retif" writes: > >> \renewcommand{\footnoterule}{\vspace*{-3pt}}% > > That is an error! \footnoterule must consume zero vertical space. Thank you. I'll look into this. I took half the code from The LaTeX Companion, 2nd ed., p. 112: > \footnoterule [...] The default definition is equivalent to the > following: > > \renewcommand\footnoterule{\vspace*{-3pt}% > \hrule width 2in height 0.4pt \vspace*{2.6pt}} So to get no rule I omitted the second half of the code. Thank you again. Axel From bnb at ams.org Fri Sep 26 14:47:15 2008 From: bnb at ams.org (Barbara Beeton) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --footnoterule In-Reply-To: <3A61770A-BFCF-443A-9E47-9C1331F9F539@mac.com> References: <3A61770A-BFCF-443A-9E47-9C1331F9F539@mac.com> Message-ID: On 25 Sep, 2008, at 18:09, Donald Arseneau wrote: > "Axel E. Retif" writes: > >> \renewcommand{\footnoterule}{\vspace*{-3pt}}% > > That is an error! \footnoterule must consume zero vertical space. Thank you. I'll look into this. I took half the code from The LaTeX Companion, 2nd ed., p. 112: > \footnoterule [...] The default definition is equivalent to the > following: > > \renewcommand\footnoterule{\vspace*{-3pt}% > \hrule width 2in height 0.4pt \vspace*{2.6pt}} So to get no rule I omitted the second half of the code. you failed to notice that this is a three-part definition: \renewcommand\footnoterule{\vspace*{-3pt}% \hrule width 2in height 0.4pt \vspace*{2.6pt}} the first part backs up three points; the second adds .4pt as a rule; the third adds 2.6pt of space. the total space occupied is 0pt (-3 + .4 + 2.6). so an equivalent definition without a rule would be either \renewcommand\footnoterule{\vspace*{-3pt}% \vspace*{3pt}} or just \renewcommand\footnoterule{} -- bb From axel.retif at mac.com Fri Sep 26 18:29:48 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:29:48 -0500 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --footnoterule In-Reply-To: References: <3A61770A-BFCF-443A-9E47-9C1331F9F539@mac.com> Message-ID: <96F00A3C-A878-4041-9FD1-D77322955126@mac.com> On 26 Sep, 2008, at 07:47, Barbara Beeton wrote: > On 25 Sep, 2008, at 18:09, Donald Arseneau wrote: > >> "Axel E. Retif" writes: >> >>> \renewcommand{\footnoterule}{\vspace*{-3pt}}% >> >> That is an error! \footnoterule must consume zero vertical space. > > Thank you. I'll look into this. I took half the code from The LaTeX > Companion, 2nd ed., p. 112 > [...] > > you failed to notice that this is a three-part > definition: > \renewcommand\footnoterule{\vspace*{-3pt}% > \hrule width 2in height 0.4pt > \vspace*{2.6pt}} > > the first part backs up three points; > the second adds .4pt as a rule; > the third adds 2.6pt of space. > the total space occupied is 0pt (-3 + .4 + 2.6). > so an equivalent definition without a rule would > be either > \renewcommand\footnoterule{\vspace*{-3pt}% > \vspace*{3pt}} > or just > \renewcommand\footnoterule{} Thank you very much for taking the time to explain to me what should have been obvious in the very first place. Best regards, Axel From asnd at triumf.ca Fri Sep 26 22:16:06 2008 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 26 Sep 2008 13:16:06 -0700 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --footnoterule In-Reply-To: <3A61770A-BFCF-443A-9E47-9C1331F9F539@mac.com> References: <3A61770A-BFCF-443A-9E47-9C1331F9F539@mac.com> Message-ID: "Axel E. Retif" writes: > > That is an error! \footnoterule must consume zero vertical space. > > Thank you. I'll look into this. I took half the code from The LaTeX > Companion, 2nd ed., p. 112: > > > \footnoterule [...] The default definition is equivalent to the following: > > > > \renewcommand\footnoterule{\vspace*{-3pt}% > > \hrule width 2in height 0.4pt \vspace*{2.6pt}} > > So to get no rule I omitted the second half of the code. See how the vspaces plus the height (thickness) of the rule add up to zero? For no rule, just define \renewcommand\footnoterule{} -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From axel.retif at mac.com Fri Sep 26 22:40:40 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:40:40 -0500 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --footnoterule In-Reply-To: References: <3A61770A-BFCF-443A-9E47-9C1331F9F539@mac.com> Message-ID: On 26 Sep, 2008, at 15:16, Donald Arseneau wrote: > "Axel E. Retif" writes: > >>> That is an error! \footnoterule must consume zero vertical space. >> >> Thank you. I'll look into this. I took half the code from The LaTeX >> Companion, 2nd ed., p. 112: >> >>> \footnoterule [...] The default definition is equivalent to the >>> following: >>> >>> \renewcommand\footnoterule{\vspace*{-3pt}% >>> \hrule width 2in height 0.4pt \vspace*{2.6pt}} >> >> So to get no rule I omitted the second half of the code. > > See how the vspaces plus the height (thickness) of the rule add > up to zero? > > For no rule, just define > > \renewcommand\footnoterule{} Yes, that should have been obvious to me. Thank you very much. Axel From asnd at triumf.ca Fri Sep 26 23:22:24 2008 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 26 Sep 2008 14:22:24 -0700 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --eureka! In-Reply-To: <85401636-9347-4B17-9AC1-94C7FC752EB0@mac.com> References: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> <85401636-9347-4B17-9AC1-94C7FC752EB0@mac.com> Message-ID: "Axel E. Retif" writes: > Literally, eureka! It's all about greek and T1 font encoding! Try this: > > \usepackage[greek,english,spanish]{babel} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip > minus0.5\baselineskip} > It seems to be a bug in \DeclareErrorFont, which sets the current font size and baselineskip immediately, rather than just declaring a fall-back font. -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From axel.retif at mac.com Sat Sep 27 05:03:29 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:03:29 -0500 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --eureka! In-Reply-To: References: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> <85401636-9347-4B17-9AC1-94C7FC752EB0@mac.com> Message-ID: On 26 Sep, 2008, at 16:22, Donald Arseneau wrote: > "Axel E. Retif" writes: > >> Literally, eureka! It's all about greek and T1 font encoding! Try >> this: >> >> \usepackage[greek,english,spanish]{babel} >> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >> \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip >> minus0.5\baselineskip} >> >> [with footins = \the\skip\footins one gets >> ``footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt'' instead of >> ``footins = 12.0pt plus 6.0pt minus 6.0pt''] > > It seems to be a bug in \DeclareErrorFont, which sets the current font > size and baselineskip immediately, rather than just declaring a fall- > back > font. I thought \DeclareErrorFont sets size, not leading; but anyway, according to TLC 2nd ed., ``Its default is Computer Modern Roman 10pt'', which by default has a leading of 12pt. And again, this happens with a combination of greek in babel and T1 as font encoding ---either deleting greek from babel or commenting out \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}, \skip\footins is, as expected, 12.0pt plus 6.0pt minus 6.0pt. I will write to Apostolos Syropoulos about this, but I don't know if I should report it to anyone else. Best, Axel From axel.retif at mac.com Sat Sep 27 06:05:40 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:05:40 -0500 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --eureka! In-Reply-To: References: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> <85401636-9347-4B17-9AC1-94C7FC752EB0@mac.com> Message-ID: On 26 Sep, 2008, at 22:03, Axel E. Retif wrote: > On 26 Sep, 2008, at 16:22, Donald Arseneau wrote: > >> "Axel E. Retif" writes: >> >>> Literally, eureka! It's all about greek and T1 font encoding! Try >>> this: >>> >>> \usepackage[greek,english,spanish]{babel} >>> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >>> \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip >>> minus0.5\baselineskip} >>> >>> [with footins = \the\skip\footins one gets >>> ``footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt'' instead of >>> ``footins = 12.0pt plus 6.0pt minus 6.0pt''] >> >> It seems to be a bug in \DeclareErrorFont, which sets the current >> font >> size and baselineskip immediately, rather than just declaring a fall- >> back >> font. > > I thought \DeclareErrorFont sets size, not leading; but anyway, > according to TLC 2nd ed., ``Its default is Computer Modern Roman > 10pt'', which by default has a leading of 12pt. > > And again, this happens with a combination of greek in babel and T1 as > font encoding I just found out that even \usepackage[LGR]{fontenc} produces ??????? = 10.0?? ???? 5.0?? ????? 5.0??; so its all about greek and fontenc, not a particular encoding. I have already notified Apostolos Syropoulos. Anyone else? Best, Axel From karl at freefriends.org Sat Sep 27 23:42:53 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:42:53 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200809272142.m8RLgrk06424@f7.net> But 7zip will *not* read the file, as far as I can tell. That is too bad. I guess lzma-utils and 7-zip are not compatible. So I won't bother writing anything about 7-zip. The general question of the lzma file format is not settled. The actual compression method is fine, but the surrounding headers, magic bytes, etc., are a subject of ongoing discussion. Hopefully it will be settled by next year. karl From karl at freefriends.org Sun Sep 28 00:54:25 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:54:25 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <48DB6953.4010208@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <200809272254.m8RMsPx16298@f7.net> xindy, don't know if it is available on anything else than Linux yet. Thanks in large part to the heroic efforts of Vladimir Volovich, it is present for these platforms in TeX Live 2008: alpha-linux amd64-freebsd i386-freebsd i386-linux i386-openbsd i386-solaris powerpc-aix powerpc-linux sparc-linux sparc-solaris universal-darwin x86_64-linux karl From frainj at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 00:58:29 2008 From: frainj at gmail.com (John C Frain) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:58:29 +0100 Subject: [texhax] TexLive 2008 In-Reply-To: <200809272142.m8RLgrk06424@f7.net> References: <200809272142.m8RLgrk06424@f7.net> Message-ID: I have version 4.23 installed and I can confirm that it is not compatible with the .iso.lzma file. I downloaded version 4.60 beta and it can expand the archive. The Windows GUI is marginally improved also. Best Regards John 2008/9/27 Karl Berry : > But 7zip will *not* read the file, as far as I can tell. > > That is too bad. I guess lzma-utils and 7-zip are not compatible. So I > won't bother writing anything about 7-zip. > > The general question of the lzma file format is not settled. The actual > compression method is fine, but the surrounding headers, magic bytes, > etc., are a subject of ongoing discussion. Hopefully it will be settled > by next year. > > karl > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -- John C Frain Trinity College Dublin Dublin 2 Ireland www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html mailto:frainj at tcd.ie mailto:frainj at gmail.com From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Sun Sep 28 01:14:52 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:14:52 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Inappropropriate language on TeXhax list In-Reply-To: <48DA83DB.9090502@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <48D9388E.9030908@bluewin.ch> <18649.28402.455668.961902@zaphod.ms25.net> <48DA83DB.9090502@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <18654.48748.426947.319285@zaphod.ms25.net> Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) writes: > In my opinion, such language is both inappropriate > and totally uncalled for, particularly on a public > list such as this. Whilst not everyone will > necessarily agree with the messages to which these > replies were sent, it would have been both possible > and infinitely preferable to cast the replies in > a considerably more moderate and less offensive tone. Hi Phil, yes, you are right, excuse me please. I had been upset because it was not as easy as one might assume to switch from zip to tar.lzma and it hasn't been done because it's more convenient for us. I never expected that someone complains. Regards, Reinhard Eduardo, please excuse my impoliteness, it was a quite spontaneous reaction. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From axel.retif at mac.com Sun Sep 28 05:31:14 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:31:14 -0500 Subject: [texhax] about \skip\footins --eureka! In-Reply-To: <85401636-9347-4B17-9AC1-94C7FC752EB0@mac.com> References: <62CFB80DCE514FDC96AEC1228B51C762@PGR1> <85401636-9347-4B17-9AC1-94C7FC752EB0@mac.com> Message-ID: On 25 Sep, 2008, at 22:15, Axel E. Retif wrote: > I'm using the book class with no size option (therefore, 10pt > with 12pt baseline skip); [but try] > > \documentclass{book} > \usepackage[greek,english,spanish]{babel} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip > minus0.5\baselineskip} > > \begin{document} > > footins = \the\skip\footins > > \end{document} > > As such, you'll get ``footins = 10.0pt plus 5.0pt minus 5.0pt''. > > Now either delete greek in babel or comment out ``\usepackage[T1] > {fontenc}'' and you'll get ``footins = 12.0pt plus 6.0pt minus > 6.0pt''. Apostolos Syropoulos found out that setting \skip\footins before babel and fontenc you get the expected result (as a matter of fact, it's enough to set it *before* fontenc, between babel and fontenc). I can't understand why, but this works: \documentclass{book} \setlength{\skip\footins}{1.0\baselineskip plus0.5\baselineskip minus0.5\baselineskip} \usepackage[greek,english,spanish]{babel} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \begin{document} footins = \the\skip\footins \end{document} Best, Axel From jwdevel at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 07:08:51 2008 From: jwdevel at gmail.com (jw) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:08:51 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Plain TeX for graphic layout Message-ID: Hello, I'm a bit of a TeX newbie. I'm working on a project where I want to layout images and text in rectangles. This is for creating playing cards (kinda like those for a CCG) for games I design. Basically I want to specify some rectangles, put images in some, wrapped text in others. Might want to embed some icons in the text, as well. It seems like TeX might fit the bill for this, but what flavor should I be looking at? LaTeX and most other macro packages seem to be document-oriented (tracking table of contents and soforth). Or maybe I should create my own set of macros, using plain TeX? I'm a programmer; I don't mind if it gets technical, just don't want to re-invent perfectly good wheels. And, slightly off-topic, anyone have any pointers to other solutions that might work for me? I was also considering straight PostScript, since my needs are really quite simple. I initially was just going to use ImageMagick, but the text support is not great, and I would have to do a lot of fiddling with font metrics and such. -John From uwe.lueck at web.de Sun Sep 28 17:13:36 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:13:36 +0200 Subject: [texhax] \input In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080928171210.028eb5a0@pop3.web.de> At 16:13 24.09.08, Michael Barr wrote: >I know that \input is a macro in LaTeX. Nonetheless, through some magic I >have never tried to track down, both >\input diagxy >and >\input{diagxy} >both give the same result. They don't as soon as diagxy.tex isn't there. -- Uwe L. From uwe.lueck at web.de Sun Sep 28 19:09:55 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:09:55 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Sorting index In-Reply-To: <311224200809250258o39da72efm74114d37b4a76461@mail.gmail.co m> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080928190659.028eeec0@pop3.web.de> At 11:58 25.09.08, Henrik Frisk wrote: >Does anyone know how I can have the Index sort names starting with O >umlaut (?) alphabetically correct? Right thes names are put at the top >of the index which looks quite odd. Have you considered option -g? This one provides treating O umlaut as Oe. -- Uwe. From schuster.wolfgang at googlemail.com Sun Sep 28 20:06:54 2008 From: schuster.wolfgang at googlemail.com (Wolfgang Schuster) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:06:54 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Plain TeX for graphic layout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5AA0FEC8-667E-4D44-BDE0-3C611B458D53@gmail.com> Am 28.09.2008 um 07:08 schrieb jw: > Hello, > I'm a bit of a TeX newbie. > I'm working on a project where I want to layout images and text in > rectangles. This is for creating playing cards (kinda like those for a > CCG) for games I design. > Basically I want to specify some rectangles, put images in some, > wrapped text in others. Might want to embed some icons in the text, as > well. > > It seems like TeX might fit the bill for this, but what flavor should > I be looking at? LaTeX and most other macro packages seem to be > document-oriented (tracking table of contents and soforth). > Or maybe I should create my own set of macros, using plain TeX? > I'm a programmer; I don't mind if it gets technical, just don't want > to re-invent perfectly good wheels. > > And, slightly off-topic, anyone have any pointers to other solutions > that might work for me? > I was also considering straight PostScript, since my needs are really > quite simple. > I initially was just going to use ImageMagick, but the text support is > not great, and I would have to do a lot of fiddling with font metrics > and such. You could use ConTeXt, what you want is not so hard to achieve. Regards, Wolfgang From reinhard.kotucha at web.de Sun Sep 28 23:41:33 2008 From: reinhard.kotucha at web.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:41:33 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Plain TeX for graphic layout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18655.64013.339820.881343@zaphod.ms25.net> jw writes: > Hello, > I'm a bit of a TeX newbie. > I'm working on a project where I want to layout images and text in > rectangles. This is for creating playing cards (kinda like those for a > CCG) for games I design. > Basically I want to specify some rectangles, put images in some, > wrapped text in others. Might want to embed some icons in the text, as > well. > > It seems like TeX might fit the bill for this, but what flavor should > I be looking at? LaTeX and most other macro packages seem to be > document-oriented (tracking table of contents and soforth). > Or maybe I should create my own set of macros, using plain TeX? > I'm a programmer; I don't mind if it gets technical, just don't want > to re-invent perfectly good wheels. > > And, slightly off-topic, anyone have any pointers to other solutions > that might work for me? > I was also considering straight PostScript, since my needs are really > quite simple. > I initially was just going to use ImageMagick, but the text support is > not great, and I would have to do a lot of fiddling with font metrics > and such. Hi John, straight PostScript is certainly simple but there are a few drawbacks: PS doesn't insert kerning automatically. The other problem is that it doesn't break lines automatically and doesn't hyphenate words. On the other hand, drawing icons is quite easy in PS. I would look into the latex picture environment. It allows you to position objects easily. Don't know whether you can use \parbox'es (boxes containing aligned paragraphs) inside a picture environment. This is not documented in the manual, but it's quite likely that it works. You can also use plain tex. In this case I recommend eplain, an extended version of plain tex. http://www.tug.org/eplain/doc/eplain/index.html The advantage of eplain is that you can use the latex graphics package in order to include external graphics. Whether latex or plain/eplain is better for you depends on what you want to do exactly. Since there is probably no latex package which exactly does what you need, it's not easy to make a suggestion. But here are a few hints at least: Avoid to extend latex by plain tex code. It's possible but requires detailed knowledge about latex internals. If things are not done the latex way, there is no chance that latex issues a proper error message. The icons are not a problem at all. You can insert them everywhere in your text. You can load external graphic files or draw them directly in the *tex sources. There is a wonderful drawing tool called TikZ/pgf http://ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pgf/base/doc/generic/pgf/pgfmanual.pdf which supports latex and *plain. I don't know whether eplain supports placing objects relative to a particular origin. This is what the latex picture environment does. If it's not supported by eplain, consult "The TeXbook", there is an example on page 389. Sorry that I can't tell you exactly which approach is the best. But since you said that you are a programmer and even considered PostScript already, I'm inclined to propose to look into eplain first. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha at web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From vasudeva at layait.com Tue Sep 30 08:07:16 2008 From: vasudeva at layait.com (Vasudeva) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:37:16 +0530 Subject: [texhax] Need Help in finding a Solution.... Message-ID: Namaste, Iam very much new to Latex and am practicing it daily and getting used to it, However I am not able to resolve few things: 1. Iam not able to get the font colors - all I get is plain Black Text as output. 2. I would like to know the procedures or packages required for incorporating Diagrams and Circuit-Diagrams 3. Even the Graphics package though being called in the preamble, is still not working Your help and suggestions in this regard would be of great Endeavour. Warm Regards, Vasudeva, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080930/f97ede70/attachment.html From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Sep 30 08:58:01 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:58:01 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Need Help in finding a Solution.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 30 Sep, 2008, at 01:07, Vasudeva wrote: > Namaste, > > Iam very much new to Latex and am practicing it daily and getting > used to it, However I am not able to resolve few things: > 1. Iam not able to get the font colors - all I get is plain > Black Text as output. > 2. I would like to know the procedures or packages required for > incorporating Diagrams and Circuit-Diagrams > 3. Even the Graphics package though being called in the > preamble, is still not working > > Your help and suggestions in this regard would be of great Endeavour. For 1 and 3, could you send a minimal not working example? Also, please tell us what platform and TeX distribution you are using. For 2a, what kind of diagrams? For 2b, see if the circ package works for you ---its documentation, in Linux or Mac, should be here: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/doc/latex/circ/ Best, Axel From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Sep 30 10:55:14 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:55:14 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Need Help in finding a Solution.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7FA7B15E-3711-4C3C-97A0-65037FAFE74A@mac.com> On 30 Sep, 2008, at 03:10, Vasudeva wrote: > Namaste, > > Thank you for the reply. > > I am Working on - Windows Platform and MikTex 2.7 > > Please find attached 2 files. > > I would like to know the complete url of the link you have > mentioned. Alos will the Circ package work in the windows > environment. Fine. For instructions to use the color package, at the Command Prompt type texdoc grfguide A pdf file with the title ?Packages in the ?graphics? bundle? should open. Read it to know how to use the color options. And yes, the circ package will work on Windows ---it's already in your MiKTeX distribution. Also, at the Command Prompt type texdoc circ and you'll get the documentation. (Next time, in your examples include your preamble as well, that is, a minimal non working example, but from \documentclass{} to \end{document} ---the preamble is crucial to know what's going wrong.) Best, Axel From uwe.lueck at web.de Tue Sep 30 19:00:30 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:00:30 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Need Help in finding a Solution.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080930182712.03576b10@pop3.web.de> At 08:07 30.09.08, Vasudeva wrote: >1. Iam not able to get the font colors - all I get is plain Black Text >as output. > >2. I would like to know the procedures or packages required for >incorporating Diagrams and Circuit-Diagrams The LaTeX Wikibook explains some essentials: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Importing_Graphics http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Creating_Graphics http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Colors The Topical Index of the TeX Catalogue is often helpful to find out what packages serve certain purposes: http://mirror.ctan.org/help/Catalogue/bytopic.html Packages are listed "by topic", with a one-line description and a link to get more for each. Packages for including graphics made outside TeX are listed here: http://mirror.ctan.org/help/Catalogue/bytopic.html#graphics This is about drawing using TeX: http://mirror.ctan.org/help/Catalogue/bytopic.html#charts And here is something about colours: http://mirror.ctan.org/help/Catalogue/bytopic.html#colour This is just the CTAN directory of (free) packages for drawing and graphics: http://mirror.ctan.org/graphics/ -- Please note that many TeX users are not fond of getting HTML (or likewise formatted) mails since their mail programs show the script code instead of processing it. HTH -- Uwe. From piil at phys.au.dk Tue Sep 30 15:07:26 2008 From: piil at phys.au.dk (Rune Tousgaard Piil) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:07:26 +0200 Subject: [texhax] putting LaTeX author and title into .pdf description Message-ID: <8fd7b1010809300607n31b0fb1o291cb9336cfcd34c@mail.gmail.com> When I applied your suggested code all white spaces disappeared in the title and author fields. The solution for me was to use the pdfusetitle option for the hyperref package (http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/hyperref/README): \usepackage[pdftex,pdfusetitle]{hyperref} Hopefully it can solve your line break problem as well... Regards, -- Rune Tousgaard Piil