From karl at freefriends.org Fri Aug 1 02:25:02 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:25:02 -0500 Subject: [texhax] updates for TeX Live 2008 Message-ID: <200808010025.m710P2M16432@f7.net> We are nearing the end of the release cycle for TeX Live 2008. No drop-dead date yet, but we're getting close. So, if anyone is contemplating package updates that they'd like to see on the DVD, please get them to CTAN as soon as possible. At least this is less critical than it may have been in previous years, since we can provide updates after the release that users can easily get from the Internet, using the new dynamic package system that is the principal new feature this year. By the way, if anyone wants to help test before the DVD's get burned, see http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html. Thanks, Karl From wwli7p at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 14:49:36 2008 From: wwli7p at gmail.com (Will W) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:49:36 -0400 Subject: [texhax] pst-char.sty Message-ID: <418aaaa70808010549s5e07207bi314e5aa4e68cb7fd@mail.gmail.com> I am unable to find pst-char.sty file. I was away from my linux computer using a windows machine and I cannot compile a talk because the pst-char.sty file is no where to be found. Why do I find references to this style file including a change from an old name to a new name yet I cannot find it anywhere online? Once I get near my linux machine I will get the style file but being out of town makes things hard, like I cannot edit my tex file because it will never compile without this file. What I don't understand is why did it go away? ww From Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE Fri Aug 1 15:56:23 2008 From: Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE (Herbert Voss) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:56:23 +0200 Subject: [texhax] pst-char.sty In-Reply-To: <418aaaa70808010549s5e07207bi314e5aa4e68cb7fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <418aaaa70808010549s5e07207bi314e5aa4e68cb7fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48931607.3000505@FU-Berlin.DE> Will W schrieb: > I am unable to find pst-char.sty file. I was away from my linux > computer using a windows machine and I cannot compile a talk because > the pst-char.sty file is no where to be found. Why do I find > references to this style file including a change from an old name to a > new name yet I cannot find it anywhere online? > > > Once I get near my linux machine I will get the style file but being > out of town makes things hard, like I cannot edit my tex file because > it will never compile without this file. What I don't understand is > why did it go away? use \usepackage{pst-text} Herbert From bnb at ams.org Fri Aug 1 16:04:51 2008 From: bnb at ams.org (Barbara Beeton) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] pst-char.sty In-Reply-To: <418aaaa70808010549s5e07207bi314e5aa4e68cb7fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <418aaaa70808010549s5e07207bi314e5aa4e68cb7fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ww, I am unable to find pst-char.sty file. I was away from my linux computer using a windows machine and I cannot compile a talk because the pst-char.sty file is no where to be found. Why do I find references to this style file including a change from an old name to a new name yet I cannot find it anywhere online? the file pst-news06.pdf announces that The package pst-char is now part of pst-text and the package pst-ghsb is now part of pst-grad. The macros and enviroments will work in the same way. presumably additional useful features have been added that were more text-y than character-specific, so a new name was desirable. pst-text *is* available from ctan. -- bb From szabo.b at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 3 00:29:28 2008 From: szabo.b at sbcglobal.net (Barna Szabo) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:29:28 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Problems with floatingfigure Message-ID: <000001c8f4ef$3a5a80f0$4101a8c0@BASLT> Greetings: I was able to obtain satisfactory results just a few months ago with floatingfigure. Please see below. Now the floatingfigure does not display, no error messages. Can you help me? \documentclass{book} \bibliographystyle{plain} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage{amssymb} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{rotating} \usepackage{multirow} \usepackage[dvips]{epsfig} \usepackage{floatfig,epsfig} \usepackage{makeidx} . . \begin{document} \initfloatingfigs . . . \begin{floatingfigure}{3.5cm} \mbox{\epsfig{file=figures/Pile1.eps}height=7.0cm} \caption{Notation.\label{fig:pile1}} \end{floatingfigure} . . . \end{document} Thanks! Barna Szabo 660 Stonebrook Court Chesterfield, MO 63005-4847 USA Telephone: 636-536-1244 szabo.b at sbcglobal.net From ludwigmises at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 20:08:59 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:08:59 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> I've been searching for a way to typeset graphics in plain teX and haven't really found much documentation on doing so. Is this pretty much black magic, or a lost art? Are there any pointers for doing so or even a howto that covers this? I found the teTeX howto, but it seemed to revert to laTeX when it came to graphics. Maybe the only option in plain teX is to leave a blank box where the graphic is intended to go? Any suggestions/help are appreciated. Ludwig From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Sun Aug 3 23:41:40 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:41:40 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48962614.2080909@kalinowski.com.br> Ludwig Mises wrote: > I've been searching for a way to typeset graphics in plain teX and > haven't really found much documentation on doing so. Is this pretty > much black magic, or a lost art? Are there any pointers for doing so > or even a howto that covers this? I found the teTeX howto, but it > seemed to revert to laTeX when it came to graphics. Maybe the only > option in plain teX is to leave a blank box where the graphic is > intended to go? > The Tikz package for drawing graphics claims to work also in Plain Tex, and is very powerful. -- Linux: the operating system with a CLUE... Command Line User Environment. -- seen in a posting in comp.software.testing Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo at kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Sun Aug 3 23:01:10 2008 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:01:10 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48961C96.9050205@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Ludwig Mises wrote: > I've been searching for a way to typeset graphics in plain teX and > haven't really found much documentation on doing so. Is this pretty > much black magic, or a lost art? Are there any pointers for doing so > or even a howto that covers this? I found the teTeX howto, but it > seemed to revert to laTeX when it came to graphics. Maybe the only > option in plain teX is to leave a blank box where the graphic is > intended to go? > > Any suggestions/help are appreciated. Well, I use (almost) exclusively Plain TeX, and here is how I include my signature (as a JPEG) at the bottom of my correspondence : Yours sincerely \vskip +1\baselineskip \setbox 0 = \hbox {\pdfximage width 60 mm {Philip-Taylor.jpg}\pdfrefximage \pdflastximage} \box 0 \vskip -1\baselineskip Philip Taylor \end This does, of course, rely on PdfTeX rather than TeX proper, but I haven't used real TeX for some years ... Philip TAYLOR From a.c.alexandre at live.com Mon Aug 4 03:32:16 2008 From: a.c.alexandre at live.com (Alexandre Almeida) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 04:32:16 +0300 Subject: [texhax] the quotations and margins Message-ID: Hello! How can I make a quotation like this? Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut sapien dolor, egestas a, tristique in, aliquam at, augue. Aenean tincidunt fermentum velit. Vivamus mattis dignissim odio. The quotation goes here: Quisque pede quam, semper sit amet, imperdietquis, loreet a, tortor. Donec sed pede eu tellus tristique feugiat. Maecenas id lorem tempus nisl tinciduntaliq uet. Duis molestie, lectus ac accumsan faucibus, ma uris quam bibendum eros, non rutrum elit turpis ut pu rus. Sed imperdiet libero non ante. Morbi ut sapien. Nulla neque. Nulla pellentesque sem sit amet dui. Nulla erat felis, dignissim ac, varius sed, rutrum ut, pede. Nunc in tortor. Quisque varius, velit a placerat malesuada, nisl enim malesuada risus, et bibendum orci leo sed justo. Sed a ligula. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. I need to increase the left margin and to eliminate the right margin. Thank you, Alexandre. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080804/240d418c/attachment.html From karl at freefriends.org Mon Aug 4 01:09:47 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:09:47 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200808032309.m73N9lZ17965@f7.net> I've been searching for a way to typeset graphics in plain teX and In addition to the pdfTeX and PGF answers already cited: For simple .epsf graphics: \input epsf.sty % works with both plain and latex ... \epsfbox{filename.eps} ... Read the beginning of epsf.sty for other features. If you want to do more complicated things, you can use the LaTeX graphics, graphicx, and color packages in plain TeX, via Eplain. Essentially: \input eplain \beginpackages \usepackage{graphicx} \endpackages (See http://tug.org/eplain for full documentation, etc.) Happy picturing, karl P.S. Robin, perhaps http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=impgraph should be updated with some of the above? From cvr at river-valley.org Mon Aug 4 06:58:20 2008 From: cvr at river-valley.org (Radhakrishnan CV) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:28:20 +0530 Subject: [texhax] the quotations and margins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Alexandre Almeida wrote: > > How can I make a quotation like this? [...] > I need to increase the left margin and to eliminate the right margin. \renewenvironment{quotation} {\list{}{\listparindent 1.5em% \itemindent \listparindent \leftmargin 3em % or \rightmargin 0em \parsep \z@ \@plus\p@}% \item\relax} {\endlist} Best -- Radhakrishnan www.cvr.cc From A.Grahn at fzd.de Mon Aug 4 09:36:56 2008 From: A.Grahn at fzd.de (Alexander Grahn) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:36:56 +0200 Subject: [texhax] ifthen functionality for plain TeX Message-ID: <20080804073656.GB8517@fzd.de> Hi, is there a way to get the functionalty of the LaTeX package `ifthen' in TeX too? I am particularly interested in negating and combining boolean expressions using \NOT, \AND, \OR. It is surprising that TeX doesn't provide this functionality by itself, as building complex conditional expressions is quite a common task and even the most ancient and most primitive higher programming languages provide the means for doing such things. Regards, Alexander From SDittmar at eureca.de Mon Aug 4 11:17:07 2008 From: SDittmar at eureca.de (Susan Dittmar) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:17:07 +0200 Subject: [texhax] the quotations and margins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080804091707.GA22912@eureca.de> Quoting Radhakrishnan CV (cvr at river-valley.org): > \renewenvironment{quotation} I think it would be better to use something like \newenvironment{quotationRight} If you redefine existing commands, you will most probably have forgotten about that in a year or two when you try to re-use parts of your document, and then wonder why it looks different... Just my humble opinion, Susan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080804/d186503f/attachment.bin From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Mon Aug 4 13:03:55 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:03:55 -0300 Subject: [texhax] ifthen functionality for plain TeX In-Reply-To: <20080804073656.GB8517@fzd.de> References: <20080804073656.GB8517@fzd.de> Message-ID: <4896E21B.3090308@kalinowski.com.br> Alexander Grahn wrote: > Hi, > > is there a way to get the functionalty of the LaTeX package `ifthen' in > TeX too? I am particularly interested in negating and combining boolean > expressions using \NOT, \AND, \OR. > > It is surprising that TeX doesn't provide this functionality by itself, > as building complex conditional expressions is quite a common task and > even the most ancient and most primitive higher programming languages > provide the means for doing such things. > TeX is not a programming language. :-) (Though many people have used it as one.) -- "The four building blocks of the universe are fire, water, gravel and vinyl." -- Dave Barry Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo at kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb From a.c.alexandre at live.com Mon Aug 4 15:30:31 2008 From: a.c.alexandre at live.com (Alexandre Almeida) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:30:31 +0300 Subject: [texhax] sending a snaphot Message-ID: Hi! In my last email I think I wasn't very clear.. well, I took a snapshot of the screen and sended it to imageshack: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4274/citacaolongascreenshot2lv4.jpg I tried the commands but they didn't work with me...Alexandre. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080804/9987e194/attachment.html From a.c.alexandre at live.com Mon Aug 4 16:27:28 2008 From: a.c.alexandre at live.com (Alexandre Almeida) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:27:28 +0300 Subject: [texhax] vertical title Message-ID: Is there a way to show the title (and the chapter or part or section) vertically? Like this: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2869/digitalizarve8.jpgAlexandre. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080804/b3307ce5/attachment.html From tomfool at as220.org Mon Aug 4 16:53:16 2008 From: tomfool at as220.org (tom sgouros) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:53:16 -0400 Subject: [texhax] vertical title In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8918.1217861596@as220.org> Alexandre Almeida wrote: > Is there a way to show the title (and the chapter or part or section) > vertically? Yes. Check out the rotating package, use that plus \raisebox and some \hspace commands to maneuver the title in the right place from the page header or footer. You may want to make a box the size of the text body and center your book and chapter titles (read about the "marks") in it. (n.b. the dvi programs probably won't display this properly, but they end up ok in the pdf or ps output.) -tom -- ------------------------ tomfool at as220 dot org http://sgouros.com http://whatcheer.net From adityam at umich.edu Tue Aug 5 00:35:57 2008 From: adityam at umich.edu (Aditya Mahajan) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] ifthen functionality for plain TeX In-Reply-To: <4896E21B.3090308@kalinowski.com.br> References: <20080804073656.GB8517@fzd.de> <4896E21B.3090308@kalinowski.com.br> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Alexander Grahn wrote: >> Hi, >> >> is there a way to get the functionalty of the LaTeX package `ifthen' in >> TeX too? I am particularly interested in negating and combining boolean >> expressions using \NOT, \AND, \OR. >> >> It is surprising that TeX doesn't provide this functionality by itself, >> as building complex conditional expressions is quite a common task and >> even the most ancient and most primitive higher programming languages >> provide the means for doing such things. >> > TeX is not a programming language. :-) (Though many people have used it > as one.) Well if you can program a Mars rover in TeX, you can do almost anything :-) http://sdh33b.blogspot.com/2008/07/icfp-contest-2008.html Aditya From uwe.lueck at web.de Tue Aug 5 00:31:56 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:31:56 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX In-Reply-To: <200808032309.m73N9lZ17965@f7.net> References: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080804235304.0310aec0@pop3.web.de> At 01:09 04.08.08, Karl Berry wrote: > I've been searching for a way to typeset graphics in plain teX and > >In addition let me mention PiCTeX, just because I have dealt with it this year. I'm attaching some "meta"-documentation for it. But please don't consider this a recommendation! Rather look at the UK FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?keyword=drawing especially http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=drawing Note that we haven't been sure here whether you want to import or to draw graphics. HTH -- Uwe. -------------- next part -------------- DOCUMENTATION for PiCTeX 1. The macro file pictex.tex (or pictexwd.tex) contains a sober yet comprehensive documentation. (Something similar holds for contributions from other authors.) 2. Michael Wichura presented a description in TUGboat 9 (2), pp. 193-197 (1988), see http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb09-2/tb21wichura-pictex.pdf 3. Michael Wichura's MANUAL -- today called `PiCTeX and Table Manual' -- is distributed by PCTeX: http://www.pctex.com/books.html 4. Other overviews have been presented at least in Helmut Kopka's GERMAN books on LaTeX extensions in the 1990s. 5. Another GERMAN reference list, a quite RECENT one, is Uwe Siart's PDF on the web at http://www.siart.de/typografie/pictex-referenz.pdf 6. An early command summary has been Angus Duggan's PDF on the web at http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/info/pictex/summary/pictexsum.pdf 7. You may like short descriptions of pictex including HINTS concerning basic problems with PiCTeX -- in the TeX Catalogue: ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/pictex.html or in the TUG.org package information: http://tug.ctan.org/pkg/pictex -- in the UK TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=usepictex http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=docpictex ______________________________________________________________________ [This file by Uwe Lueck (the wrong author for an overview) 2008/05/07; add-ons/edits invited!] From sebastian_ml at gmx.net Mon Aug 4 20:39:24 2008 From: sebastian_ml at gmx.net (Sebastian Kemper) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:39:24 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Drawing text boxes for forms Message-ID: <1217875164.7680.5.camel@jigsaw> Hello list, I'm looking for a way to draw text input boxes for forms. Examples: Time: |_|_| : |_|_| : |_|_| Place of Birth: ?|_|_?|_|_?|_|_?|_|_?|_|_?|_|_| Any idea how to do this nicely with tex? Is there already a helper class or style for this? Kind regards Sebastian From ludwigmises at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 06:26:21 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:26:21 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20080804235304.0310aec0@pop3.web.de> References: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> <200808032309.m73N9lZ17965@f7.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20080804235304.0310aec0@pop3.web.de> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808042126h7fdc80f6qe1c2beb62946a531@mail.gmail.com> > Note that we haven't been sure here whether you want to > import or to draw graphics. Thanks for the suggested URLs. I realize now that I was a little vague in the description. Let's assume that the graphic to be inserted will be an EPS (for now). Based upon the rest of the suggestions, it looks like this won't exactly work in just plain TeX and will require a bit of work on my part to get going. I might have to look at some of the graphics handling in LaTeX to get some hints. Thanks again, Ludwig From ludwigmises at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 06:38:23 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:38:23 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Drawing text boxes for forms In-Reply-To: <1217875164.7680.5.camel@jigsaw> References: <1217875164.7680.5.camel@jigsaw> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808042138h5bdea81elf51d5c019127b4c8@mail.gmail.com> > Any idea how to do this nicely with tex? Is there already a helper class > or style for this? There's a very rudimentary introduction to this in the TeXbook. Looks something like: \def\mybox{\vbox{\hrule\hbox{\vrule\kern3pt \vbox{\kern3pt \kern3pt}\kern3pt\vrule}\hrule}} Hopefully this will give you an idea on how you could construct your own. Ludwig From ludwigmises at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 06:52:18 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:52:18 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX In-Reply-To: <200808032309.m73N9lZ17965@f7.net> References: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> <200808032309.m73N9lZ17965@f7.net> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808042152o629e07dfs7b9dfb004c11ae9c@mail.gmail.com> > For simple .epsf graphics: > \input epsf.sty % works with both plain and latex > ... \epsfbox{filename.eps} ... > Read the beginning of epsf.sty for other features. I didn't see this until just now! Gmail filtered this particular message (time to retrain). This might be something that will work. Thanks, Ludwig From ludwigmises at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 07:13:54 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:13:54 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Typesetting in landscape mode. Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808042213h6315dbcbs18fff1f3c0432a98@mail.gmail.com> I have a document that I would like to be entirely in landscape mode (two columns). Something like this: _____________________ | text text | text text | | text text | text text | | text text | text text | | text text | text text | |__________|__________| I sure hope this comes out right from gmail... I know postscript can easily rotate, is there something similar in plain TeX? It will be on 8.5x11in paper (letter). I know I can use \vsize and \hsize to control the actual size of the margins. I suppose I could output two pages, and then rotate them on a copy machine? Maybe something like pstops could take the two pages and somehow conjoin them rotated? I saw the FAQs about landscape with LaTex: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html-gamma?label=landscape But it seemed more for a LaTeX usage. Thanks for any suggestions. Ludwig From axel.retif at mac.com Tue Aug 5 09:42:56 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:42:56 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808042126h7fdc80f6qe1c2beb62946a531@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> <200808032309.m73N9lZ17965@f7.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20080804235304.0310aec0@pop3.web.de> <6b823fbc0808042126h7fdc80f6qe1c2beb62946a531@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5333F541-F57D-48ED-938B-A16AC7A1D867@mac.com> On 4 Aug, 2008, at 23:26, Ludwig Mises wrote: >> Note that we haven't been sure here whether you want to >> import or to draw graphics. > > [...] > Let's assume that the graphic to be inserted will be an EPS (for now). > > Based upon the rest of the suggestions, it looks like this won't > exactly work in just plain TeX and will require a bit of work on my > part to get going. Not at all ---as Karl Barry said, ------------- \input eplain \beginpackages \usepackage{graphicx} \endpackages \includegraphics{.eps} \bye -------------- Also, but maybe less versatile than Eplain, -------------- \input graphicx.tex \includegraphics{Figura-III_4.eps} \bye --------------- Best, Axel From olegkat at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 15:42:05 2008 From: olegkat at gmail.com (Oleg Katsitadze) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:42:05 +0300 Subject: [texhax] Typesetting in landscape mode. In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808042213h6315dbcbs18fff1f3c0432a98@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808042213h6315dbcbs18fff1f3c0432a98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080805134205.GA13524@thor> On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 11:13:54PM -0600, Ludwig Mises wrote: > Maybe something like pstops could take the two pages > and somehow conjoin them rotated? There's the psnup tool from psutils package which can do this (and much more). For PDF the equivalent is pdfnup from pdfjam. Best, Oleg From sean.sieger at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 19:40:48 2008 From: sean.sieger at gmail.com (Sean Sieger) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:40:48 -0400 Subject: [texhax] texlive 2008 Message-ID: <87prone4wv.fsf@gmail.com> Is TeX Live 2008 wholly `free as in freedom'? From karl at freefriends.org Wed Aug 6 01:51:43 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:51:43 -0500 Subject: [texhax] texlive 2008 In-Reply-To: <87prone4wv.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200808052351.m75Nphw29792@f7.net> Is TeX Live 2008 wholly `free as in freedom'? That is the intent. There are no known nonfree parts and we remove them whenever they are found. karl From beebe at math.utah.edu Wed Aug 6 02:59:02 2008 From: beebe at math.utah.edu (Nelson H. F. Beebe) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:59:02 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [texhax] Another interview with Donald Knuth: part 2 Message-ID: In e-mail to this list of Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:08:48 -0600 (MDT), I reported the appearance of the first of a two-part interview with Donald Knuth. Part 2 has now appeared: @String{j-CACM = "Communications of the ACM"} @Article{Shustek:2008:IDK, author = "Len Shustek", title = "Interview: {Donald Knuth}: {A} life's work interrupted", journal = j-CACM, volume = "51", number = "8", pages = "31--35", month = aug, year = "2008", CODEN = "CACMA2", DOI = "http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/1378704.1378715", ISSN = "0001-0782", bibdate = "Tue Aug 5 18:48:27 MDT 2008", bibsource = "http://www.acm.org/pubs/contents/journals/cacm/", abstract = "In this second of a two-part interview by Edward Feigenbaum, we find Knuth, having completed three volumes of {\em The Art of Computer Programming}, drawn to creating a system to produce books digitally.", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, } Access to the full text may require an ACM Portal personal account, or access from a library that subscribes to the journal. If you are unable to download the article from the given DOI, try the Interlibrary Loan service at your nearest community library. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe at math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe at acm.org beebe at computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean.sieger at gmail.com Wed Aug 6 03:42:54 2008 From: sean.sieger at gmail.com (Sean Sieger) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:42:54 -0400 Subject: [texhax] texlive 2008 References: <87prone4wv.fsf@gmail.com> <200808052351.m75Nphw29792@f7.net> Message-ID: <87ljzaex5t.fsf@gmail.com> karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) writes: Is TeX Live 2008 wholly `free as in freedom'? That is the intent. There are no known nonfree parts and we remove them whenever they are found. karl Thank you, Karl. From mas at mylug.org Wed Aug 6 03:23:22 2008 From: mas at mylug.org (Sridhar M.A.) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 06:53:22 +0530 Subject: [texhax] Typesetting in landscape mode. In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808042213h6315dbcbs18fff1f3c0432a98@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808042213h6315dbcbs18fff1f3c0432a98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080806012322.GA20160@localhost.loc.dom> On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 11:13:54PM -0600, Ludwig Mises wrote: > I have a document that I would like to be entirely in landscape mode > (two columns). Something like this: > > _____________________ > | text text | text text | > | text text | text text | > | text text | text text | > | text text | text text | > |__________|__________| > Here is a small example of how you can achieve it: \documentclass{article} % \usepackage[a4paper,landscape]{geometry} \usepackage{multicol} \begin{document} \begin{multicols}{2} Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Curabitur id est tincidunt nisl pellentesque tincidunt. Donec in mauris. Mauris neque magna, consectetuer id, malesuada vitae, tincidunt sit amet, mi. Aliquam lacinia. Suspendisse potenti. Proin justo lorem, rutrum ac, facilisis in, malesuada sed, ligula. Mauris lobortis lacus at nibh. Aenean vitae odio vel odio placerat hendrerit. Suspendisse lacus lacus, tempor id, pharetra eget, ornare sit amet, pede. Sed aliquet, justo ac elementum pretium, arcu leo placerat est, a luctus purus diam eget arcu. Nam augue diam, mollis a, scelerisque eget, aliquet condimentum, pede. Vestibulum tristique lectus sed augue. Aenean ut mauris luctus mauris interdum convallis. Nunc vestibulum sodales nulla. Nulla vitae massa. Maecenas vel tellus vitae elit mattis adipiscing. In pulvinar felis sed est. Mauris non mi. Duis ultrices dolor ut orci. Quisque lacinia arcu et purus. Sed euismod metus nec augue. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Nunc dolor leo, aliquam a, placerat sit amet, accumsan eget, dolor. Sed lacinia augue in magna. Fusce sed enim. Vestibulum et mauris. Phasellus in lectus. Pellentesque eu elit in dolor ullamcorper sodales. Vestibulum interdum ornare ligula. Mauris felis odio, rhoncus sed, adipiscing fermentum, tincidunt eu, metus. Suspendisse viverra rhoncus purus. \end{multicols} \end{document} Just run it through (pdf)latex. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 An ounce of mother is worth a ton of priest. -- Spanish proverb -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080806/24e7aaf4/attachment.bin From ludwigmises at gmail.com Wed Aug 6 06:32:00 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:32:00 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Typesetting in landscape mode. In-Reply-To: <20080805134205.GA13524@thor> References: <6b823fbc0808042213h6315dbcbs18fff1f3c0432a98@mail.gmail.com> <20080805134205.GA13524@thor> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808052132p72c61973qda76294ad9e0e8@mail.gmail.com> > There's the psnup tool from psutils package which can do this (and > much more). For PDF the equivalent is pdfnup from pdfjam. Yes, in the end this is what I ended up doing. For the archives, I calculated the magnifcation which would be required to rotate a page and fit it into 4.25x5.5. Turns out that its between \magstep2 and \magstep3, so I'm using: \magnification=\magstep3 And then using psnup to rotate the pages and fit two onto one 8.5x11 page. The text is then about the right size. Thanks for confirming my course of action on this. Ludwig From ludwigmises at gmail.com Wed Aug 6 06:36:25 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:36:25 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Graphics with plain teX In-Reply-To: <5333F541-F57D-48ED-938B-A16AC7A1D867@mac.com> References: <6b823fbc0808031108t2ff78856j322072ba30acdfaf@mail.gmail.com> <200808032309.m73N9lZ17965@f7.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20080804235304.0310aec0@pop3.web.de> <6b823fbc0808042126h7fdc80f6qe1c2beb62946a531@mail.gmail.com> <5333F541-F57D-48ED-938B-A16AC7A1D867@mac.com> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808052136j4d321625rf2310a3b8644244@mail.gmail.com> > Not at all ---as Karl Barry said, > > ------------- > \input eplain > \beginpackages > \usepackage{graphicx} > \endpackages > > \includegraphics{.eps} I must have missed this... I'll give it a shot and see how it works out. Thanks, Ludwig From ludwigmises at gmail.com Wed Aug 6 09:03:22 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:03:22 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Large fonts and superscripts. Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808060003w213d6712sd4a52cb88d28b371@mail.gmail.com> I seem to be running into a dead end while trying to typeset a word in a large font (say cmr20). The superscript seems to remain in a much smaller font than I would expect: \font\bigfont=cmr20 {\bigfont Six$^{th}$} Doesn't produce what I would think is a proportionally small superscript. Also, the superscript seems to show up in the middle of the x vertically and is not offset above it. Am I missing something obvious? Thanks in advance, Ludwig From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Wed Aug 6 09:34:54 2008 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd)) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:34:54 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Large fonts and superscripts. In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808060003w213d6712sd4a52cb88d28b371@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808060003w213d6712sd4a52cb88d28b371@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4899541E.90701@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Ludwig Mises wrote: > I seem to be running into a dead end while trying to typeset a word in > a large font (say cmr20). The superscript seems to remain in a much > smaller font than I would expect: > > \font\bigfont=cmr20 > > {\bigfont Six$^{th}$} > > Doesn't produce what I would think is a proportionally small > superscript. Also, the superscript seems to show up in the middle of > the x vertically and is not offset above it. Am I missing something > obvious? Yes :-) Subscripts are mathematical, and are taken from the current set of maths fonts, which are unrelated to the text font that you have just selected. Appendix G probably has all the gory details ... Philip TAYLOR From karl at freefriends.org Thu Aug 7 00:42:54 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:42:54 -0500 Subject: [texhax] texlive 2008 In-Reply-To: <87ljzaex5t.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200808062242.m76Mgsk08627@f7.net> Is TeX Live 2008 wholly `free as in freedom'? I belatedly realized I should clarify one thing for the record: Debian and the FSF define "freedom" differently with respect to various features of the GNU Free Documentation License. TeX Live follows the FSF. http://tug.org/texlive/LICENSE.TL explains in more detail. karl From ludwigmises at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 00:49:37 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:49:37 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Large fonts and superscripts. In-Reply-To: <4899541E.90701@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <6b823fbc0808060003w213d6712sd4a52cb88d28b371@mail.gmail.com> <4899541E.90701@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808061549u22f873dbnb4c72041007fe096@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) wrote: > > Yes :-) Subscripts are mathematical, and are > taken from the current set of maths fonts, > which are unrelated to the text font that > you have just selected. Appendix G probably > has all the gory details ... Appendix G definitely looks like it might work. I'm not quite the TeXnician at this point, so we'll see. Maybe I can just make my own macro that creates an hbox that is raised up some proportional value. On that note, is it possible to change the scale of the font without changing the font? For example, {\bigfont Some text that is one size {\scaledown by .5 text that is smaller}} I see that TeXbook used something like \tenpoint and \ninepoint to do this, but it uses some font family magic that I'm not yet a TeXpert at. Maybe this is the only way though (short of defining all the fonts that I would need at various sizes). Or how can I change the default font for the entire document? I know I could wrap everything in {\bigfont ...} but there is probably a better way, right? Thanks, Ludwig From ludwigmises at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 01:01:47 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:01:47 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Large fonts and superscripts. In-Reply-To: <4899541E.90701@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <6b823fbc0808060003w213d6712sd4a52cb88d28b371@mail.gmail.com> <4899541E.90701@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808061601u3024935fo26df652fea662171@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) wrote: > > Yes :-) Subscripts are mathematical, and are > taken from the current set of maths fonts, > which are unrelated to the text font that > you have just selected. Appendix G probably > has all the gory details ... Turns out that what I wanted was \raise with a bit of \hbox magic with a different font. I think I will revisit Appendix G after I have read through all the slippery road sign sections. The following seems to work fine: {\bigfont Six$\raise.5ex\hbox{\smallfont th}}$ Maybe I don't even really need mathmode for this but I'm not sure how to accomplish that just yet. Ludwig From P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk Thu Aug 7 00:08:27 2008 From: P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk (Philip TAYLOR) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:08:27 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Large fonts and superscripts. In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808061549u22f873dbnb4c72041007fe096@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808060003w213d6712sd4a52cb88d28b371@mail.gmail.com> <4899541E.90701@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <6b823fbc0808061549u22f873dbnb4c72041007fe096@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <489A20DB.2070103@Rhul.Ac.Uk> OK, you look as if you're getting there, but let me answer your last question, which may suffice : Ludwig Mises wrote: > Or how can I change the default font for the entire document? I know > I could wrap everything in {\bigfont ...} but there is probably a > better way, right? Make the first line of your file \magnification \magstep 1 (or 2, or 3, or 4, or 5). The result will be to make everything bigger by a factor of 1.2 for each numeric increment. Of course, things like the page size don't vary, so you'll need to specify such things using absolute sizes, as in : \hsize = 210 true mm \vsize = 29t true mm and so on. ** Phil. From karl at freefriends.org Thu Aug 7 01:32:40 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:32:40 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Large fonts and superscripts. In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808061601u3024935fo26df652fea662171@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200808062332.m76NWew08771@f7.net> Appendix G Anyone seriously interested in Appendix G may well appreciate Jacko's article "Appendix G Illuminated", which includes copious illustrations and commentary :). Available at http://tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb27-1/tb86jackowski.pdf karl From ludwigmises at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 02:11:17 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:11:17 -0600 Subject: [texhax] Large fonts and superscripts. In-Reply-To: <489A20DB.2070103@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <6b823fbc0808060003w213d6712sd4a52cb88d28b371@mail.gmail.com> <4899541E.90701@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <6b823fbc0808061549u22f873dbnb4c72041007fe096@mail.gmail.com> <489A20DB.2070103@Rhul.Ac.Uk> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808061711r49067e8ah40fb4511991b06c9@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > OK, you look as if you're getting there, but > let me answer your last question, which may > suffice : Slowly but surely. > Make the first line of your file > > \magnification \magstep 1 Sorry, I wasn't explicit enough. I'm actually already using \magnification because the final document will be reduced (thanks to psnup). What I really meant was... how do I change the default font (family?) from cmr to say cmtt. Is it as simple as defining a font and then placing that at the beginning of the document? \font\tentt=cmtt10 \tentt From vanderMerweA at cput.ac.za Thu Aug 7 14:56:30 2008 From: vanderMerweA at cput.ac.za (Aletta van der Merwe) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:56:30 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Font / Symbol for Laplace Transform and Fourier Transform Message-ID: <489B0D1E020000A6000690A7@bvmail.cput.ac.za> Dear Sir/ Madam I want to use the symbols for the Laplace Transform and the Fourier Transform in a latex document and can not trace them in any of the available documentation. These symbols are very elaborate script symbols (L and F) and are used commonly in Mathematics textbooks. Kind regards Alna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From millstadtf at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 16:01:59 2008 From: millstadtf at gmail.com (Robert Wilson) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:01:59 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Font / Symbol for Laplace Transform and Fourier Transform In-Reply-To: <489B0D1E020000A6000690A7@bvmail.cput.ac.za> References: <489B0D1E020000A6000690A7@bvmail.cput.ac.za> Message-ID: <44ff02430808070701r1205815dm201e455fddd99228@mail.gmail.com> Aletta, have a look at Table 196 on page 70 of the Comprehensive LaTeX Symbol List. ( http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-letter.pdf) Various math alphabets are available, so play around and see which you like the best! HTH, Bob On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Aletta van der Merwe < vanderMerweA at cput.ac.za> wrote: > Dear Sir/ Madam > > > > I want to use the symbols for the Laplace Transform and the Fourier > Transform in a latex document and can not trace them in any of the available > documentation. These symbols are very elaborate script symbols (L and F) and > are used commonly in Mathematics textbooks. > > > > > > Kind regards > > Alna > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080807/8906c6d5/attachment.html From bnb at ams.org Thu Aug 7 16:04:20 2008 From: bnb at ams.org (Barbara Beeton) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] Font / Symbol for Laplace Transform and Fourier Transform In-Reply-To: <489B0D1E020000A6000690A7@bvmail.cput.ac.za> References: <489B0D1E020000A6000690A7@bvmail.cput.ac.za> Message-ID: I want to use the symbols for the Laplace Transform and the Fourier Transform in a latex document and can not trace them in any of the available documentation. These symbols are very elaborate script symbols (L and F) and are used commonly in Mathematics textbooks. the "ralph smith formal script" contains the script letters you are looking for. \usepackage{rsfs} -- bb From asnd at triumf.ca Thu Aug 7 21:08:30 2008 From: asnd at triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) Date: 07 Aug 2008 12:08:30 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Large fonts and superscripts. In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808061549u22f873dbnb4c72041007fe096@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808060003w213d6712sd4a52cb88d28b371@mail.gmail.com> <4899541E.90701@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <6b823fbc0808061549u22f873dbnb4c72041007fe096@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "Ludwig Mises" writes: > Appendix G definitely looks like it might work. I'm not quite the > TeXnician at this point, so we'll see. Maybe I can just make my own > macro that creates an hbox that is raised up some proportional value. or take the rare opportunity to use \valign :-) > On that note, is it possible to change the scale of the font without > changing the font? For example, %============================== % % Rescale font from its current size. % \begingroup \catcode`\A=12 \catcode`\T=12 \catcode`\@=11 \lowercase{% necessary because \fontname\font produces "at" in catcode 12. \gdef\rescalefont{\edef\next{\noexpand\r at scalefont \fontname\font\space AT $ AT \relax}\next} \gdef\r at scalefont#1 AT #2 AT #3\relax#4{\ifx $#2% not scaled yet. Use mag \dimen@=1000sp \dimen@=#4\dimen@ \font\temporaryfont #1 scaled \dimen@ \else % font "at" some size. Change it \dimen@=#2 \dimen@=#4\dimen@ \font\temporaryfont #1 at \dimen@ \fi \temporaryfont} } \endgroup > I see that TeXbook used something like \tenpoint and \ninepoint to do > this, You should really copy \twelvepoint or some such and make a version for fully selecting your large font size, including the math setup. -- Donald Arseneau asnd at triumf.ca From a.c.alexandre at live.com Sat Aug 9 02:20:12 2008 From: a.c.alexandre at live.com (Alexandre Almeida) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 03:20:12 +0300 Subject: [texhax] text in blocks Message-ID: Hi! I don't know how to make the text be displayed like this: Book review 1 This is a big book in every sense of the word. Drawing on more than two decades of scholarship in the field, Joseph Inikori (University of Rochester) has written a provocative, occasionally frustrating, and ultimately convincing monograph on one of the classic issues in our field, the causes of the British Industrial Revolution. Book review 2 The culmination of literally decades of careful scholarship, this book is both magnificent and a bit frustrating. The frustrations are not so much due to flaws in the book itself as to some thoughts about what has been left out. Book review 3 One of the drawbacks of the standard geographical organization of the historical discipline (broadly defined to include economic history and historical anthropology and sociology) is that scholarship about those regions considered peripheral to Europe and the United States is little read outside of its own subfield. If I type a long line in the review, the next line will be displayed below the "Book review" number. In html, we use the table tags (with border=0 ). I tried to use table in latex, but my document is in two columns, and the table seems not work inside two columns. Can anybody help me?Alexandre. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080809/3532294c/attachment.html From axel.retif at mac.com Sat Aug 9 06:06:06 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:06:06 -0500 Subject: [texhax] text in blocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <76CCDC03-04E1-4714-A371-A2255290B452@mac.com> On 8 Aug, 2008, at 19:20, Alexandre Almeida wrote: > Hi! > > I don't know how to make the text be displayed like this: > > Book review 1 This is a big book in every sense of the word. [...] > If I type a long line in the review, the next line will be displayed > below the "Book review" number. Would this work? \documentclass{article} \usepackage[text={30pc,44pc}]{geometry} \usepackage{lipsum} \usepackage{multicol} \usepackage{tabulary} \begin{document} \begin{multicols}{2} \lipsum[1] \end{multicols} \setlength\tymin{6pc} \setlength\tymax{\maxdimen} \noindent\begin{tabulary}{30pc}{@{}L J@{}} Book review 1 & This is a big book in every sense of the word. Drawing on more than two decades of scholarship in the field\dots\\ Book review 2 & The culmination of literally decades of careful scholarship, this book is both magnificent and a bit frustrating\dots\\ Book review 3 & One of the drawbacks of the standard geographical organization of the historical discipline\dots \end{tabulary} \begin{multicols}{2} \lipsum[1] \end{multicols} \end{document} Best, Axel From vasudeva at layait.com Sat Aug 9 11:40:03 2008 From: vasudeva at layait.com (Vasudeva) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:10:03 +0530 Subject: [texhax] Help Requd. Message-ID: Hi, I would like to know how to include Circuit Diagrams and Graphs in Latex Document. Please suggest me how to go about it, and also what things are required to be installed in my Computer to get the required Output. Currently I have MikTex -2.7 installed. and am using WinEdt. Your help in this regard would be appreciated. Warm Regards, Vasudeva, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080809/3bb7d602/attachment.html From senthil.debian at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 17:29:47 2008 From: senthil.debian at gmail.com (Senthil Kumar M) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:29:47 +0900 Subject: [texhax] Help Requd. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56b822010808090829n2fcd1433r4da0939e662f9d87@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Vasudeva wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know how to include Circuit Diagrams and Graphs in Latex > Document. Please suggest me how to go about it, and also what things are > required to be installed in my Computer to get the required Output. > > Currently I have MikTex -2.7 installed? and am using WinEdt. > Hi, Graphs created with gnuplot or R can be easily integrated with LaTeX documents. And for circuit diagrams, at least in GNU/Linux, one can use Xfig, see an example here: http://xfig.org/art9.html . Gnuplot and R are available for Windows, but I am not sure about Xfig. May be you can try Inkscape or Mayura ? HTH, Senthil From uwe.lueck at web.de Sat Aug 9 17:25:41 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:25:41 +0200 Subject: [texhax] text in blocks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080809164600.01f0b3b0@pop3.web.de> At 02:20 09.08.08, Alexandre Almeida wrote: > >I don't know how to make the text be displayed like this: > >Book review 1 This is a big book [...] >Book review 2 The culmination [...] >Book review 3 > >One of the drawbacks of the standard geographical organization of the >historical discipline (broadly defined to include economic history and >historical anthropology and sociology) is that scholarship about those >regions considered peripheral to Europe and the United States is little >read outside of its own subfield. > >If I type a long line in the review, the next line will be displayed below >the "Book review" number. I guess the third example exemplifies a "long line" as opposed to the upper two, but I can't see what makes it "long" ... >In html, we use the table tags (with border=0 ). I tried to use table in >latex, but my document is in two columns, and the table seems not work >inside two columns. ... maybe you sometimes insert
, sometimes not? (Like \\ with LaTeX ...) I think this is not a matter of TeX but of good design. Your review tables may look fine in the html windows, but in two-column typesetting a table in a single column will have ugly interword spaces (or ugly ragged-right style). A table may span columns if this kind of presenting information is appropriate, but a review is just an article like any other in a journal or so. So I think you really have to choose a different design for your reviews in two-column documents. You find examples in almost any journal. Just start a review with the bibliographical data typeset in more salient fonts (or colour), with proper vertical spacing. HTH -- Uwe. From uwe.lueck at web.de Sat Aug 9 17:38:36 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:38:36 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Help Requd. [circuits, graphs] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080809173229.01f1aec0@pop3.web.de> At 11:40 09.08.08, Vasudeva wrote: >I would like to know how to include Circuit Diagrams and Graphs in Latex >Document. Please suggest me how to go about it, and also what things are >required to be installed in my Computer to get the required Output. Search the topical index of the TeX Catalogue http://mirror.ctan.org/help/Catalogue/bytopic.html for "circuit"; you find some packages. For including graphics, look for any LaTeX introductions, e.g., do you see the links below? -- Uwe. From ludwigmises at gmail.com Sun Aug 10 00:21:29 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:21:29 -0600 Subject: [texhax] headline vertical boxing. Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808091521q6a54c868x6bd7b7aed20e522@mail.gmail.com> So I'm trying to create a custom headline. Looks something like this: \magnification=\magstep3 \font\bigfont=cmbx14 \font\littlefont=cmbx6 \def\header#1#2{ \headline={\vbox{\hbox to \hsize{{\bigfont #1} \hfill {\littlefont #2}} \vskip 2pt \hrule height 2pt}} } \header{gary indiana}{gary indiana} gary indiana \vfill\eject \header{Gari Indiana}{Gari Indiana} Gari Indiana \bye The problem is, that the hrule and the text above the hrule don't seem to want to line the way I want them too do. I would like the \hrule to set at exactly the same location on each page, but clearly the deeper letters are somehow causing some extra spacing to be added. I've tried using \strut and various other tricks but just can't seem to align them the way I want. Any ideas? Thanks, Ludwig From nina.mazumdar at gmail.com Sun Aug 10 07:01:35 2008 From: nina.mazumdar at gmail.com (Nina Mazumdar) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:31:35 +0530 Subject: [texhax] headline vertical boxing. In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808091521q6a54c868x6bd7b7aed20e522@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808091521q6a54c868x6bd7b7aed20e522@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c13b2c80808092201s6dc0c9ccpbc272072400e3516@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Ludwig Mises wrote: > So I'm trying to create a custom headline. Looks something like this: > > \magnification=\magstep3 > \font\bigfont=cmbx14 > \font\littlefont=cmbx6 > > \def\header#1#2{ > \headline={\vbox{\hbox to \hsize{{\bigfont #1} \hfill {\littlefont #2}} > \vskip 2pt > \hrule height 2pt}} > } \def\header#1#2{ \headline={\vbox{\hbox to \hsize{{\strut\bigfont #1} \hfill {\littlefont #2}} \vskip 2pt \hrule height 2pt}} } With the insertion of \strut just before \bigfont kept the rule exactly at same location in all page headers. Sorry, I could not replicate your problem. I do not have cmbx14, instead I have used cmbx12, that is the only difference I can see. Best regards -- Nina From nina.mazumdar at gmail.com Sun Aug 10 09:06:31 2008 From: nina.mazumdar at gmail.com (Nina Mazumdar) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:36:31 +0530 Subject: [texhax] Help Requd. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4c13b2c80808100006i54d1ed80n3a6fa4cdda5b39cf@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Vasudeva wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know how to include Circuit Diagrams and Graphs in Latex > Document. Please suggest me how to go about it, and also what things are > required to be installed in my Computer to get the required Output. A copy of 'LaTeX Graphics Companion' will be of immense help to you. circ, circuit-macros, makecirc are packages that can be employed to create circuit diagrams. A simple seach for plots at CTAN yielded the following: epix: Utility for mathematically accurate, camera quality plots and line figures. makeplot: Easy plots from Matlab in LaTeX. metaplot: Plot-manipulation macros for use in Metapost. pgfplots: Create normal/logarithmic plots in LaTeX. pst-3dplot: Draw 3d curves and graphs using PSTricks. pst-func: PSTricks package for plotting mathematical functions. sagetex: Embed Sage code and plots into LaTeX. textopo: Annotated membrane protein topology plots. Happy TeXing and best regards -- Nina From martin at oneiros.de Sun Aug 10 15:40:47 2008 From: martin at oneiros.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:40:47 +0200 Subject: [texhax] text in blocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68c491a60808100640m3cf20f0cyd4509dc740f2d222@mail.gmail.com> 2008/8/9 Alexandre Almeida : > If I type a long line in the review, the next line will be > displayed below the "Book review" number. > In html, we use the table tags (with border=0 ). I tried to use table in > latex, but my document is in two columns, and the table seems not work > inside two columns. You want lists. Check out the list enviroment and study the LaTeX companion. Best Martin From hartmut_henkel at gmx.de Sun Aug 10 16:11:14 2008 From: hartmut_henkel at gmx.de (Hartmut Henkel) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [texhax] headline vertical boxing. In-Reply-To: <4c13b2c80808092201s6dc0c9ccpbc272072400e3516@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808091521q6a54c868x6bd7b7aed20e522@mail.gmail.com> <4c13b2c80808092201s6dc0c9ccpbc272072400e3516@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Nina Mazumdar wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Ludwig Mises wrote: > > \def\header#1#2{ > \headline={\vbox{\hbox to \hsize{{\strut\bigfont #1} \hfill {\littlefont #2}} > \vskip 2pt > \hrule height 2pt}} > } > > With the insertion of \strut just before \bigfont kept the rule > exactly at same location in all page headers. Sorry, I could not > replicate your problem. I do not have cmbx14, instead I have used > cmbx12, that is the only difference I can see. if using \strut, it should be in the sequence \bigfont\strut so that the \strut really uses the dimensions from the \bigfont font. Another way is to hide vertical box dimensions (height, depth) by \smash{}, which stops \headline to move vertically depending on its contents, e. g.: \def\header#1#2{% \headline={\smash{\vbox{ \smash{\line{{\bigfont #1}\hfill {\littlefont #2}}} \vskip 4pt \hrule height 2pt }}}} Regards, Hartmut From a.c.alexandre at live.com Sun Aug 10 23:57:23 2008 From: a.c.alexandre at live.com (Alexandre Almeida) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:57:23 +0300 Subject: [texhax] sending a tip to adjust the line spacing in description Message-ID: > You want lists. Check out the list enviroment and study the LaTeX companion. Hi again, Martin Schr?der! I found out how to adjust the line spacing in description in this site: http://campar.in.tum.de/Chair/LaTeXTricks \begin{description}\addtolength{\itemsep}{-1.5\baselineskip}\item[Label-1-Put-A-Name-Here] Your description Here...\item[Label-2-Put-Another-name-Here] blah-blah-blah...\item[Label-3-Put-Another-name-Here] blah-blah-blah...\item[Label-4-Put-Another-name-Here] blah-blah-blah...\item[Label-5-Put-Another-name-Here] blah-blah-blah...\item[Label-6-Put-Another-name-Here] blah-blah-blah...\end{description} Alexandre. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you, Ludwig From ludwigmises at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 03:52:45 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:52:45 -0600 Subject: [texhax] headline vertical boxing. In-Reply-To: <4c13b2c80808092201s6dc0c9ccpbc272072400e3516@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808091521q6a54c868x6bd7b7aed20e522@mail.gmail.com> <4c13b2c80808092201s6dc0c9ccpbc272072400e3516@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808101852h69ace98fo9b9c7c7cd95c4f2@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Nina Mazumdar wrote: > > With the insertion of \strut just before \bigfont kept the rule > exactly at same location in all page headers. Sorry, I could not > replicate your problem. I do not have cmbx14, instead I have used > cmbx12, that is the only difference I can see. Looks like I spoke too soon. It also looks like there was more to the problem than I originally thought; I didn't describe it well enough either since I didn't describe what was being passed in. Try the following for the first and second page headers: \header{gary 25$^{\raise.5ex\hbox{\littlefont th}}$}{gary indiana} \header{Gari Indiana}{Gari indiana} While the \strut clearly helped, it hasn't eliminated the spacing alignment entirely. I'll look into \smash next. Ludwig From a.c.alexandre at live.com Mon Aug 11 04:01:27 2008 From: a.c.alexandre at live.com (Alexandre Almeida) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:01:27 +0300 Subject: [texhax] index without commas Message-ID: Hi! Is it possible to show the index this way? (without the commas) Africa p.38 Azeitona p.5 Bal?es p.117 By the way, how can I make the index looks like this: A ?frica p.38 Azeitona p.5 B Bal?es p.117 Alexandre. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080811/c2b57c35/attachment.html From olegkat at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 05:02:41 2008 From: olegkat at gmail.com (Oleg Katsitadze) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:02:41 +0300 Subject: [texhax] headline vertical boxing. In-Reply-To: <6b823fbc0808101852h69ace98fo9b9c7c7cd95c4f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b823fbc0808091521q6a54c868x6bd7b7aed20e522@mail.gmail.com> <4c13b2c80808092201s6dc0c9ccpbc272072400e3516@mail.gmail.com> <6b823fbc0808101852h69ace98fo9b9c7c7cd95c4f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080811030241.GA15929@thor> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:52:45PM -0600, Ludwig Mises wrote: > While the \strut clearly helped, it hasn't eliminated the spacing > alignment entirely. I guess that's because you haven't set up \strut for \bigfont. So the strut you get is for the default 10pt Computer Modern. Oleg From uwe.lueck at web.de Mon Aug 11 14:55:09 2008 From: uwe.lueck at web.de (Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?=) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:55:09 +0200 Subject: [texhax] text in blocks In-Reply-To: <68c491a60808100640m3cf20f0cyd4509dc740f2d222@mail.gmail.co m> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20080811144823.0353c8f0@pop3.web.de> At 15:40 10.08.08, Martin Schr?der wrote: >2008/8/9 Alexandre Almeida : > > If I type a long line in the review, the next line will be > > displayed below the "Book review" number. > > In html, we use the table tags (with border=0 ). I tried to use table in > > latex, but my document is in two columns, and the table seems not work > > inside two columns. > >You want lists. Check out the list enviroment and study the LaTeX companion. Sure? What should be the label? If the "label" is at least authors + title, it wouldn't fit one line in twocolumn - therefore my previous proposal. However, something like \item \par may be nice (but the first par should have special fonts). Then play with \itemsep and \parsep. Best, Uwe. From hartmut_henkel at gmx.de Mon Aug 11 21:04:50 2008 From: hartmut_henkel at gmx.de (Hartmut Henkel) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:04:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [texhax] headline vertical boxing. In-Reply-To: <20080811030241.GA15929@thor> References: <6b823fbc0808091521q6a54c868x6bd7b7aed20e522@mail.gmail.com> <4c13b2c80808092201s6dc0c9ccpbc272072400e3516@mail.gmail.com> <6b823fbc0808101852h69ace98fo9b9c7c7cd95c4f2@mail.gmail.com> <20080811030241.GA15929@thor> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Oleg Katsitadze wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:52:45PM -0600, Ludwig Mises wrote: > > While the \strut clearly helped, it hasn't eliminated the spacing > > alignment entirely. > > I guess that's because you haven't set up \strut for \bigfont. So the > strut you get is for the default 10pt Computer Modern. ah, yes. On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Hartmut Henkel wrote: > if using \strut, it should be in the sequence \bigfont\strut so that > the \strut really uses the dimensions from the \bigfont font. ooops, that's nonsense, sorry; this sequence doesn't matter in plain TeX, as \strut dimensions are fixed (too small to be useful for a 14pt font). I was thinking LaTeX, where \strut gets its dimensions from the current baselineskip. So if you want to use a \strut in plain TeX with other font sizes, you need to make some \mystrut yourself. Regards, Hartmut From karl at freefriends.org Tue Aug 12 01:29:49 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:29:49 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TUG 2008 video presentations Message-ID: <200808112329.m7BNTni20051@f7.net> [Apologies to those who get this more than once.] For those who did not attend the recently concluded TUG 2008, most of the talks in various audio/video formats are available at: http://www.river-valley.tv/conferences/tug2008/ (Various other TeX conferences are on the site too.) Thanks to Kaveh Bazargan and River Valley for making it happen. Happy TeXing, Karl From luca.molinari at st.com Mon Aug 11 16:25:30 2008 From: luca.molinari at st.com (Luca MOLINARI) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:25:30 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Longtable on double column mode. Message-ID: <48A04BDA.5050401@st.com> Hello, I have a very long (i.e. many rows) and very narrow (i.e. column width is small) table. The table will span across several pages, so that I would like to use a multi column environment (two column is enough) to reduce (half) the total number of pages dedicated to this table. Multicols is not working with longtable, and I don't know which is the best way to implement this kind of layout (I'm new about LaTeX...). Can someon help me on that? Best Regards Luca From ludwigmises at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 05:43:38 2008 From: ludwigmises at gmail.com (Ludwig Mises) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:43:38 -0600 Subject: [texhax] headline vertical boxing. In-Reply-To: References: <6b823fbc0808091521q6a54c868x6bd7b7aed20e522@mail.gmail.com> <4c13b2c80808092201s6dc0c9ccpbc272072400e3516@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b823fbc0808112043m5c6aadb2h4e282ce6b1302cc9@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Hartmut Henkel wrote: > > Another way is > to hide vertical box dimensions (height, depth) by \smash{}, which stops > \headline to move vertically depending on its contents, e. g.: \smash is just what was needed. As you indicated, the \strut in TeX is merely a box the size of a standard \baseline which would have to be redefined for whatever font is in use. Ludwig From vivrii at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 07:29:48 2008 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:29:48 +0900 Subject: [texhax] latest xkeyval breaks pdfpages and fancytooltips Message-ID: <19af81400808112229j448d3806ra19186097a85ff17@mail.gmail.com> No matter in what order they are called \documentclass{article} Put any file you want (both packages use external pdf files) After I removed latest xkeyval things began to work \usepackage{pdfpages} \usepackage{xkeyval} \begin{document} \includepdf[pages=1-12,nup=4x3,frame=true, delta=10 10]{/Users/ivrii/Talks/TeX_4/TeX_Talk_4C.pdf} \end{document} %%%%% \documentclass{article} \usepackage{xcolor} \usepackage[filename=/Users/ivrii/Talks/TeX_4/TeX_Talk_4C,movetips]{fancytooltips} \usepackage{xkeyval} \begin{document} \tooltip{this}{2} \end{document} -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From vinojmn at yahoo.co.in Tue Aug 12 06:34:19 2008 From: vinojmn at yahoo.co.in (Vinoj M.N) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:04:19 +0530 (IST) Subject: [texhax] query Message-ID: <392829.73733.qm@web8908.mail.in.yahoo.com> Dear sir, I am working in a college and also doing research activities. I have one doubt regarding tex. I am using winedit 5.1. I am preparing a research paper to communicate to a journal. I would like to prepare one of the page in the paper in the landscape format and rest in the portrait format. Portrait format i know. Please send me the commands to make the page in the landscape format. with regards Vinoj Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/ From frainj at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 20:19:22 2008 From: frainj at gmail.com (John C Frain) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:19:22 +0100 Subject: [texhax] query In-Reply-To: <392829.73733.qm@web8908.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <392829.73733.qm@web8908.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For rotating individual floats use the rotating package. For text use the lscape package Best Regards John Frain 2008/8/12 Vinoj M.N : > Dear sir, > I am working in a college and also doing research activities. I have one doubt regarding tex. I am using winedit 5.1. I am preparing a research paper to communicate to a journal. I would like to prepare one of the page in the paper in the landscape format and rest in the portrait format. Portrait format i know. Please send me the commands to make the page in the landscape format. > with regards > Vinoj > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/ > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -- John C Frain Trinity College Dublin Dublin 2 Ireland www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html mailto:frainj at tcd.ie mailto:frainj at gmail.com From siraj.shaikh at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 20:41:16 2008 From: siraj.shaikh at gmail.com (Siraj Shaikh) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:41:16 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Query about Bibtex Message-ID: <3b2ddd940808121141u115bd223r9f7f69b38b2f13f7@mail.gmail.com> Hi I am writing to enquire about using bibtex. Everytime I use to generate reference lists, I get a header/title top the list as "References". Now I am wondering is there anyway to avoid this title? And perhaps create a title of my own? or just no title? I am new to this and am also wondering if this list is the right place to enquire about Bibtex. Thanks Siraj From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Wed Aug 13 15:18:08 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:18:08 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Query about Bibtex In-Reply-To: <3b2ddd940808121141u115bd223r9f7f69b38b2f13f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3b2ddd940808121141u115bd223r9f7f69b38b2f13f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Siraj Shaikh skrev: > Hi > > I am writing to enquire about using bibtex. > > Everytime I use to generate reference lists, I get a header/title top > the list as "References". Now I am wondering is there anyway to avoid > this title? And perhaps create a title of my own? or just no title? > > I am new to this and am also wondering if this list is the right place > to enquire about Bibtex. > > Thanks > > Siraj See: . In short: \renewcommand\bibname{Your title} if you are using report or book or \renewcommand\refname{Your title} if you are using the article documentclass. From Bryan.Lepore at umassmed.edu Wed Aug 13 16:11:59 2008 From: Bryan.Lepore at umassmed.edu (Bryan W. Lepore) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] bibliography, sections, and pdfbookmarks/hyperref Message-ID: i noticed that bibliography appears in the toc, but does not appear in the bookmarks from hyperref. i gathered that hyperref uses the .out has all the \sections, which end up as bookmarks - but \bibliography shouldn't have a \section before it - right? so how can \bibliography become a hyperref bookmark? -bryan p.s: references <- for future googling :^) From edsko at edsko.net Wed Aug 13 16:22:30 2008 From: edsko at edsko.net (Edsko de Vries) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:22:30 +0100 Subject: [texhax] bibliography, sections, and pdfbookmarks/hyperref In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080813142230.GC13472@netsoc.tcd.ie> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:11:59AM -0400, Bryan W. Lepore wrote: > i noticed that bibliography appears in the toc, but does not appear in the > bookmarks from hyperref. > > i gathered that hyperref uses the .out has all the \sections, which end up > as bookmarks - but \bibliography shouldn't have a \section before it - > right? > > so how can \bibliography become a hyperref bookmark? You can use the tocbibind package. Edsko From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Wed Aug 13 16:22:59 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:22:59 +0200 Subject: [texhax] bibliography, sections, and pdfbookmarks/hyperref In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bryan W. Lepore skrev: > i noticed that bibliography appears in the toc, but does not appear in the > bookmarks from hyperref. > > i gathered that hyperref uses the .out has all the \sections, which end up > as bookmarks - but \bibliography shouldn't have a \section before it - > right? > > so how can \bibliography become a hyperref bookmark? > > -bryan > > p.s: references <- for future googling :^) > \usepackage{hyperref} ... \pdfbookmark[1]{Bibliography}{bib} \bibliography{bibfile} From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Wed Aug 13 19:23:20 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:23:20 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Style In-Reply-To: <20080718223926.BLEJ18637.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> References: <20080718223926.BLEJ18637.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pine.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <48A31888.9020705@kalinowski.com.br> PR Stanley escreveu: > Hi folks > Having learned enough to typeset reasonably elaborate mathematical > documents I'd like to know if there are stylistic standards that one > can use for maintaining consistency. I've looked at many documents > and it would appear that peopl are more inclined to exercise > creativity than adhere to a universal stylistic paradigm. As someone > unable to see the outcome of a LaTeX document in PDF or DVI (because > of my visual impairment) it is hard for me to know which one of the > many stylistic decisions results in something decent and presentable. > Any advice on the subject, perhaps tips on style would be gratefully > appreciated. I'm ressurecting this thread to mention that the latest TUGboat has an article about common mistakes in mathematical formulas, that talks about some conventions for mathematical typography. TUG members can read the article online at https://www.tug.org/members/TUGboat/tb29-2/tb92guiggiani.pdf . From r.turner at auckland.ac.nz Thu Aug 14 01:55:38 2008 From: r.turner at auckland.ac.nz (Rolf Turner) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:55:38 +1200 Subject: [texhax] Bold slanted sans serif. Message-ID: I tried to produce bold slanted sans serif text via \textbf{\textsl{\textsf{Holy bathroom scales!}}} and got the warning: LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmss/bx/sl' undefined (Font) using `OT1/cmss/bx/n' instead on input line 3. [1] (./test.aux) LaTeX Font Warning: Some font shapes were not available, defaults substituted. The result was bold sans serif, not slanted. Questions: (1) Is it possible to get bold slanted sans serif? I.e. can I make the right font shapes available? (2) If so, how? I presume I would need to download some (font?) file from some URL (where?) and then place them in the ``appropriate'' location (directory) on my machine (where?). If you know the answer to (2), may I humbly beseech you to please be as explicit as you possibly can --- I don't understand fonts and the sorts of files that underlie them worth a damn. A defect in my character, but one which I have so far been unable to remedy. I am working on an Imac; the results of ``uname -a'' are: Darwin TURNER-ROLF.local 8.11.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.1: Wed Oct 10 18:23:28 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.25.20~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386 Thanks for any help that anyone can give me. cheers, Rolf Turner ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ###################################################################### From valkyrie at google.com Wed Aug 13 19:33:02 2008 From: valkyrie at google.com (Valkyrie Savage) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:33:02 -0700 Subject: [texhax] Minimum required? Message-ID: <5f58c0cd0808131033n7d223689s1e601265187e9af5@mail.gmail.com> Hi, everyone, I'm trying to determine what the absolute bare minimum of files is to run a LaTeX binary job using packages amstex and amsmath. The document class I'm using is article, but I think that all font sizes would be good to have. I'm not very familiar with LaTeX, but I'd really appreciate if someone could tell me what dependencies the latex binary has. :) Valkyrie Savage From mahi2308 at rediffmail.com Thu Aug 14 06:25:28 2008 From: mahi2308 at rediffmail.com (mahi) Date: 14 Aug 2008 04:25:28 -0000 Subject: [texhax] Fottnote in caption Message-ID: <20080814042528.21976.qmail@f4mail-235-240.rediffmail.com> Hi In Latex how can i print a footnotes in caption. Maheshwari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080814/9d6c0de2/attachment.html From martin at oneiros.de Thu Aug 14 09:30:04 2008 From: martin at oneiros.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:30:04 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Fottnote in caption In-Reply-To: <20080814042528.21976.qmail@f4mail-235-240.rediffmail.com> References: <20080814042528.21976.qmail@f4mail-235-240.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <68c491a60808140030l6df08e4fid1ed87a2c90b80fc@mail.gmail.com> 2008/8/14 mahi : > In Latex how can i print a footnotes in caption. http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=ftncapt Best Martin From mahi2308 at rediffmail.com Thu Aug 14 10:31:30 2008 From: mahi2308 at rediffmail.com (mahi) Date: 14 Aug 2008 08:31:30 -0000 Subject: [texhax] Fottnote in caption Message-ID: <20080814083130.17436.qmail@f4mail-235-135.rediffmail.com> ? Hi In Latex how can i print a footnotes in caption. If i use minipage for figure i will get footnotes end of the figure but i need footnote to be print bottom of the page and i don't want use \footnotemark in caption and \footnotetext in text part. Is their any solution. Maheshwari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080814/b3b61e98/attachment-0001.html From martin at oneiros.de Thu Aug 14 10:42:03 2008 From: martin at oneiros.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:42:03 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Fottnote in caption In-Reply-To: <20080814083130.17436.qmail@f4mail-235-135.rediffmail.com> References: <20080814083130.17436.qmail@f4mail-235-135.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <68c491a60808140142k3a744859nf231cfae05a3e674@mail.gmail.com> 2008/8/14 mahi : > In Latex how can i print a footnotes in caption. If i use minipage for > figure i will get footnotes end of the figure but i need footnote to be > print bottom of the page and i don't want use \footnotemark in caption and > \footnotetext in text part. Is their any solution. Yes, and it's answered in the FAQ: TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq And please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Best Martin From axel.retif at mac.com Thu Aug 14 11:23:01 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:23:01 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Bold slanted sans serif. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <158ADB3B-AC17-4AD1-9CF4-F855C3E12528@mac.com> On 13 Aug, 2008, at 18:55, Rolf Turner wrote: > I tried to produce bold slanted sans serif text via > > \textbf{\textsl{\textsf{Holy bathroom scales!}}} > > and got the warning: > > LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmss/bx/sl' undefined Put \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} in your preamble. Best, Axel From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Thu Aug 14 13:25:38 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:25:38 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Minimum required? In-Reply-To: <5f58c0cd0808131033n7d223689s1e601265187e9af5@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f58c0cd0808131033n7d223689s1e601265187e9af5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48A41632.50208@kalinowski.com.br> Valkyrie Savage wrote: > Hi, everyone, > > I'm trying to determine what the absolute bare minimum of files is to > run a LaTeX binary job using packages amstex and amsmath. The > document class I'm using is article, but I think that all font sizes > would be good to have. > > I'm not very familiar with LaTeX, but I'd really appreciate if someone > could tell me what dependencies the latex binary has. :) > I don't think you need anything more than a base Latex distribution, since the AMS packages are part of the basic packages. If for some reason you need less than that, try inserting \listfiles in your document to get a list of all included files, their versions and descriptions. It gets output to the screen and log file. -- Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo at kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb From r.turner at auckland.ac.nz Thu Aug 14 22:02:21 2008 From: r.turner at auckland.ac.nz (Rolf Turner) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:02:21 +1200 Subject: [texhax] Bold slanted sans serif. In-Reply-To: <158ADB3B-AC17-4AD1-9CF4-F855C3E12528@mac.com> References: <158ADB3B-AC17-4AD1-9CF4-F855C3E12528@mac.com> Message-ID: On 14/08/2008, at 9:23 PM, Axel E. Retif wrote: > On 13 Aug, 2008, at 18:55, Rolf Turner wrote: > >> I tried to produce bold slanted sans serif text via >> >> \textbf{\textsl{\textsf{Holy bathroom scales!}}} >> >> and got the warning: >> >> LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmss/bx/sl' undefined > > Put \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} in your preamble. Bingo!!! Works like a charm. Thanks hugely. cheers, Rolf Turner ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ###################################################################### From christ at goyman.com Thu Aug 14 21:18:03 2008 From: christ at goyman.com (Christian Grognuz) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:18:03 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Troubles with the tabbing environment Message-ID: <4FF76AC3-AF34-45FE-8952-5EC4C9F1203A@goyman.com> Hello, I'm parsing some xml to produce a pdf document. I have tags inserted in a text and I want to replace them with tabulations. I use the tabbing environment but I'm experiencing 2 problems: 1) When the text before a tab is longer than the distance to the corresponding tabstop, the tab still positions itself at this tabstop. This results in having the text after the tab to overlap the one before. \begin{tabbing} \hspace{2cm} \= \hspace{2cm} \= \hspace{2cm} \= \hspace{2cm} \= \hspace{2cm} \= \kill This text is much longer than 2cm\>And this one will be partly overlapping the first one \end{tabbing} 2) There is no word wrapping when the text reaches the right margin. Does anyone know a way to do this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080814/cf90f696/attachment.html From Kemal.Akman at campus.lmu.de Sat Aug 16 19:40:11 2008 From: Kemal.Akman at campus.lmu.de (Kemal Akman) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:40:11 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Basic plain TeX question (undefined control sequence errors) Message-ID: Hi, I'm an amateur TeXlive user and would be happy if anyone could answer this basic question. I have to translate plain tex documents, and am getting "undefined control sequence" errors for the following commands: \titlepage \pagewidth \pageheight \killpt \tenpoint I could not find anything in the documents, and commands like \titlepage should be in the tex standard classes, so what am I missing and how to correct this error? I'm using a current texlive installation with all optional texlive debian packages already installed, including texlive-plain-*. $ tex --version TeX 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.6) kpathsea version 3.5.6 Thank you! Kemal Akman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080816/74122cdc/attachment.html From olegkat at gmail.com Sun Aug 17 00:07:40 2008 From: olegkat at gmail.com (Oleg Katsitadze) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:07:40 +0300 Subject: [texhax] Basic plain TeX question (undefined control sequence errors) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080816220740.GA17499@thor> Hi Kemal, On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 07:40:11PM +0200, Kemal Akman wrote: > \titlepage > \pagewidth > \pageheight > \killpt > \tenpoint > > I could not find anything in the documents, and commands > like \titlepage should be in the tex standard classes There's no such thing as "TeX standard classes", there's just a single macro file plain.tex. You can see for yourself that it doesn't define any of the above macros. > so what am I missing and how to correct this error? You have to find the additional macro file(s) your document is using. Look for \input command in the document and check the file (and do this recursively). It's also possible that a generated format is used, but in that case you'd not be calling TeX as "tex" but as some other command (like "latex") or with additional command line arguments. HTH, Oleg From ani_che_buet at yahoo.com Sun Aug 17 10:35:09 2008 From: ani_che_buet at yahoo.com (ANIRUDDHA MAJUMDER) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [texhax] hyperlinked text using hyperref package Message-ID: <852323.48085.qm@web63405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear TeXusers, ?I am new user of TeX system and I use WinEdt 5.5 to edit TeX files. I want to write a report with hyperlinked text and graphics. For this I used the following preambles, \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{epsfig} \usepackage{amssymb} \usepackage[dvips,backref,colorlinks=true,citecolor=blue]{hyperref} ? I ran LaTeX on the source file and then dvi2pdf to get the pdf output. The problem is, in the pdf file the hyperlink property is nor presereved. I will be obliged if you?could suggest me the steps? to?achieve the hyperlinked pdf output?. ? ? Regards, Aniruddha ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080817/610a9594/attachment.html From nina.mazumdar at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 04:11:50 2008 From: nina.mazumdar at gmail.com (Nina Mazumdar) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:41:50 +0530 Subject: [texhax] hyperlinked text using hyperref package In-Reply-To: <852323.48085.qm@web63405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <852323.48085.qm@web63405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4c13b2c80808171911g2746cbc0n3353e65b3e96d969@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, Sorry for crosss-posting. This is an issue which still remains unresolved in TUGIndia list. On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:05 PM, ANIRUDDHA MAJUMDER wrote: > Dear TeXusers, > I am new user of TeX system and I use WinEdt 5.5 to edit TeX files. I want > to write a report with hyperlinked text and graphics. For this I used the > following preambles, > \usepackage{graphicx} > \usepackage{epsfig} > \usepackage{amssymb} > \usepackage[dvips,backref,colorlinks=true,citecolor=blue]{hyperref} > > I ran LaTeX on the source file and then dvi2pdf to get the pdf output. The > problem is, in the pdf file the hyperlink property is nor presereved. I will > be obliged if you could suggest me the steps to achieve the hyperlinked pdf > output . Hey, you did not tell me that you do use dvipdf to convert dvi into pdf. In that case, you will seldom succeed unless you use the correct backend driver, 'dvipdf' or dvipdfm' or dvipdfmx' as the case may be instead of 'dvips. Happy TeXing and best regards -- Nina From vi5u0-texhax at yahoo.co.uk Mon Aug 18 11:57:45 2008 From: vi5u0-texhax at yahoo.co.uk (Dan Hatton) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:57:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: [texhax] hyperlinked text using hyperref package In-Reply-To: <852323.48085.qm@web63405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <852323.48085.qm@web63405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Aug 2008, ANIRUDDHA MAJUMDER wrote: > I am new user of TeX system and I use WinEdt 5.5 to edit TeX > files. I want to write a report with hyperlinked text and > graphics. For this I used the following preambles, > \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{epsfig} \usepackage{amssymb} > \usepackage[dvips,backref,colorlinks=true,citecolor=blue]{hyperref} > I ran LaTeX on the source file and then dvi2pdf to get the pdf > output. The problem is, in the pdf file the hyperlink property is > nor presereved. I will be obliged if you?could suggest me the steps? > to?achieve the hyperlinked pdf output?. I get hyperlinks in my PDF files using the \htmladdnormallink{}{} command, made available by \usepackage{html}, as documented at . I generate the PDF using the command dvipdf, which may or may not be the same as dvi2pdf. -- HTH, Dan Hatton From backer at psych.uib.no Mon Aug 18 15:15:49 2008 From: backer at psych.uib.no (Tom Backer Johnsen) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:15:49 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Citations and Beamerarticle Message-ID: <48A97605.6000301@psych.uib.no> I am using BeamerArticle to create a handout of my slides with comments. I would like to include some citations using the apacite package, which normally works quite well. But in combination with BeamerArticle the list of references looks wierd. Anbody know about a workaround? Tom From backer at psych.uib.no Tue Aug 19 12:38:34 2008 From: backer at psych.uib.no (Tom Backer Johnsen) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:38:34 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Citations and Beamerarticle In-Reply-To: <48A97605.6000301@psych.uib.no> References: <48A97605.6000301@psych.uib.no> Message-ID: <48AAA2AA.7000901@psych.uib.no> Tom Backer Johnsen wrote: > I am using BeamerArticle to create a handout of my slides with comments. > I would like to include some citations using the apacite package, > which normally works quite well. But in combination with BeamerArticle > the list of references looks wierd. Anbody know about a workaround? The workaround is simple. The only thing I had to do was to update the installation (MikTex). Now it works perfect. Sorry for the posting. > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Tom Backer Johnsen, Psychometrics Unit, Faculty of Psychology | | University of Bergen, Christies gt. 12, N-5015 Bergen, NORWAY | | Tel : +47-5558-9185 Fax : +47-5558-9879 | | Email : backer at psych.uib.no URL : http://www.galton.uib.no/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ From tomfool at as220.org Tue Aug 19 14:18:10 2008 From: tomfool at as220.org (Tom Sgouros) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:18:10 -0400 Subject: [texhax] typesetting large type Message-ID: <1896.1219148290@as220.org> Hi all: Is there a way to typeset a paragraph so that the text of the entire first line or two is in a larger font than the succeeding lines? You sometimes see this effect in newspapers and magazine typesetting. Browsing CTAN hasn't really helped, since I don't know what to call this. Any thoughts? Thanks -tom -- ------------------------ tomfool at as220 dot org http://sgouros.com http://whatcheer.net -- ------------------------ tomfool at as220 dot org http://sgouros.com http://whatcheer.net From will.adams at frycomm.com Tue Aug 19 16:08:20 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:08:20 -0400 Subject: [texhax] typesetting large type In-Reply-To: <1896.1219148290@as220.org> References: <1896.1219148290@as220.org> Message-ID: On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Tom Sgouros wrote: > Is there a way to typeset a paragraph so that the text of the entire > first line or two is in a larger font than the succeeding lines? You > sometimes see this effect in newspapers and magazine typesetting. > Browsing CTAN hasn't really helped, since I don't know what to call > this. Any thoughts? Donald Arseneau's magaz.sty has a feature for that: http://tug.ctan.org/cgi-bin/ctanPackageInformation.py?id=magaz It works quite well --- I used it in an HS phonebook linead typesetting system we've developed here at work. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From siraj.shaikh at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 18:50:12 2008 From: siraj.shaikh at gmail.com (Siraj Shaikh) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:50:12 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Inserting a non bibliographic entry in the thebibliogrpahy environment Message-ID: <3b2ddd940808190950o1c21bf9fp757d9498d104dc3f@mail.gmail.com> Hello I am new to using thebibliography environment for creating reference lists. I am trying to create a reference list with added annotations/labels that help me sort and classifythe entries. So the reference list should look something like this: [1] Entry one.... [2] Entry two.... Label1 [3] Entry three.... [4] Entry four.... [5] Entry five.... Label 2 [6] Entry six.... and so on. I thought of breaking up the list but I need a continuously numbered reference list (with labels in the middle). Is there any straight forward way of doing this? I have been trying to look at the documentation of thebibliography environment but doesnt help much. I tried typing in the text in between \bibitem entries but it gives me labels indented much further to the right, could I align them somehow with the numbers [1], [2],...? Thanks Siraj From lilianjoy at gmail.com Thu Aug 21 00:06:28 2008 From: lilianjoy at gmail.com (Lilian Teixeira) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:06:28 -0300 Subject: [texhax] HELP - packages Message-ID: <3b3b1abe0808201506q4321bfcdy3cc18ed4550f184a@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am sorry if seem so stupid, but I used Latex only once and I can not remember how to get those packages, such as: \usepackage{a4wide} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \usepackage[numbers]{natbib} \usepackage[portuges]{babel} I am totally lost. Thanks for your help. Lilian. -- Mestranda em Ling??stica Aplicada Universidade do Vale do Rio dos Sinos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080820/79221195/attachment.html From axel.retif at mac.com Thu Aug 21 01:34:22 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:34:22 -0500 Subject: [texhax] HELP - packages In-Reply-To: <3b3b1abe0808201506q4321bfcdy3cc18ed4550f184a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3b3b1abe0808201506q4321bfcdy3cc18ed4550f184a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <22135A99-3AD8-4172-8892-4D978297C0B7@mac.com> On Aug 20, 2008, at 17:06, Lilian Teixeira wrote: > Hi, > I am sorry if seem so stupid, but I used Latex only once and I can > not remember how to get those packages, such as: > \usepackage{a4wide} > \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} > \usepackage[numbers]{natbib} > \usepackage[portuges]{babel} > > I am totally lost. Please remember that even the most advanced LaTeX users started as complete newbies. First, you need a TeX & friends distribution, like TeXLive, MacTeX or MikTeX: see in http://www.tug.org/ the software section as well as ``Gettiing started''. See also The not so Short Introduction to LaTeX (in various languages): http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/ If you already have a TeX et al. distro, then \documentclass{article} \usepackage{a4wide} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \usepackage[numbers]{natbib} \usepackage[portuges]{babel} \begin{document} \end{document} Best, Axel From barr at math.mcgill.ca Thu Aug 21 23:19:18 2008 From: barr at math.mcgill.ca (Michael Barr) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] Footnote on a section heading Message-ID: I am trying to put a footnote on a section heading without putting it into the page header. If I don't use \protect\footnote, I get an error (extra } error) and if do \protect it, I get a strange result. If the original footnote number is 1, then the header has a superscript 2, followed by an online 1, neither of which is wanted. The section titles are separated from the text, so it will not do to put the footnote after the heading. I have tried a couple of different searches on CTAN with no results. From eduardo at kalinowski.com.br Fri Aug 22 00:05:20 2008 From: eduardo at kalinowski.com.br (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:05:20 -0300 Subject: [texhax] Footnote on a section heading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48ADE6A0.2050901@kalinowski.com.br> Michael Barr wrote: > I am trying to put a footnote on a section heading without putting it into > the page header. If I don't use \protect\footnote, I get an error (extra > } error) and if do \protect it, I get a strange result. If the original > footnote number is 1, then the header has a superscript 2, followed by an > online 1, neither of which is wanted. The section titles are separated > from the text, so it will not do to put the footnote after the heading. > > I have tried a couple of different searches on CTAN with no results. > Good that you searched, you just searched the wrong place. :-) See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=ftnsect . -- If you just try long enough and hard enough, you can always manage to boot yourself in the posterior. -- A. J. Liebling, "The Press" Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo at kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb From edsko at edsko.net Sat Aug 23 12:29:20 2008 From: edsko at edsko.net (Edsko de Vries) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:29:20 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Bug in plainnat.bst? Message-ID: <20080823102920.GA19088@netsoc.tcd.ie> Hi, I am using the crossref feature of bibtex to cross-reference articles in conference proceedings. The problem starts when those proceedings do not have an editor; for example: @inproceedings{hage:usageanalysis, crossref = {ICFP07}, author = {Jurriaan Hage and Stefan Holdermans and Arie Middelkoop}, title = {A generic usage analysis with subeffect qualifiers}, pages = {235--246}, } @proceedings{ICFP07, title = {ICFP '07: Proceedings of the 2007 ACM SIGPLAN international conference on Functional programming}, booktitle = {ICFP '07: Proceedings of the 2007 ACM SIGPLAN international conference on Functional programming}, year = {2007}, publisher = {ACM}, key = {ICFP07}, } (Since ACM proceedings do not have editors, the most logical key to use for cross-referencing is the mnemonic for the conference.) With the plainnat.bst style, the entry for hage:usageanalysis will be formatted as Jurriaan Hage, Stefan Holdermans and Arie Middelkoop. A generic usage analysis with subeffect qualifiers. In ICFP07 ICFP07, pages 235--246. Note the double occurrence of the key. In plainnat.bst, this is caused by the line marked by the arrow in: FUNCTION {format.incoll.inproc.crossref} { editor empty$ editor field.or.null author field.or.null = or { key empty$ { booktitle empty$ { "need editor, key, or booktitle for " cite$ * " to crossref " * crossref * warning$ "" } { "In \emph{" booktitle * "}" * } if$ } { "In " key * } <-------------- if$ } { "In " } if$ " \citet{" * crossref * "}" * } Since that line outputs the key, which is then *again* output by the citet at the very end, the key is duplicated in the output. I think this line should be modified to just { "In " } unless perhaps I am abusing the entries in some way. Edsko From will.adams at frycomm.com Mon Aug 25 17:07:40 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:07:40 -0400 Subject: [texhax] How to get in touch w/ Duane Bibby? Message-ID: Does anyone have an e-mail address for him? (illustrator of Don Knuth's TeX books and many others). I've got a question for him and his e-mail is hidden away in a set of archive DVDs somewhere at home.... William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From loeghmon at gmail.com Mon Aug 25 22:26:42 2008 From: loeghmon at gmail.com (Loeghmon T. Nejad) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:26:42 -0400 Subject: [texhax] remove tex commands Message-ID: <666ccf3a0808251326j364b1da3raddd75ab4568bb5c@mail.gmail.com> I occasionally need to remove all the tex commands from my document and email as raw text. Do you know of a utility that can do this in Windows environment? Thanks. -- Regards, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080825/2361324b/attachment.html From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Tue Aug 26 09:24:36 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:24:36 +0200 Subject: [texhax] remove tex commands In-Reply-To: <666ccf3a0808251326j364b1da3raddd75ab4568bb5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <666ccf3a0808251326j364b1da3raddd75ab4568bb5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Loeghmon T. Nejad skrev: > I occasionally need to remove all the tex commands from my document and > email as raw text. Do you know of a utility that can do this in Windows > environment? Thanks. In addition there is pdftohtml which you can use on a pdf generated with pdflatex. From will.adams at frycomm.com Tue Aug 26 17:12:55 2008 From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:12:55 -0400 Subject: [texhax] How to get in touch w/ Duane Bibby? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 25, 2008, at 11:07 AM, William Adams wrote: > Does anyone have an e-mail address for him? (illustrator of Don > Knuth's TeX books and many others). > > I've got a question for him and his e-mail is hidden away in a set of > archive DVDs somewhere at home.... Thanks all! I've managed to get in touch w/ DB and have my question answered. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications From karl at freefriends.org Wed Aug 27 01:48:36 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:48:36 -0500 Subject: [texhax] TeX Showcase additions Message-ID: <200808262348.m7QNmaC08437@f7.net> Gerben Wierda, the editor of the TeX Showcase, asked me to forward this announcement. The Showcase aims to show many examples of what TeX can do. More submissions are welcome, see the web page. >From Gerben: The following entries have been added: - Kanji practice sheet by Christopher Creutzig (ConTeXt, MetaPost) - Tengwar by Ignacio Fern??ndez Galv??n - Shading and topology in biology examples by Senthil Kumar Murugapiran - Two versions (presentation & print) of a thesis from the same LaTeX source by Juhapekka Tolvanen - An embedded 3D object that can be manipulated (Meshlab) by Paolo Cignoni http://www.tug.org/texshowcase Yours, G From john.simmie at nuigalway.ie Wed Aug 27 10:56:19 2008 From: john.simmie at nuigalway.ie (Simmie, John) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:56:19 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" Message-ID: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> Hi: I need to force Table captions into bold in an LaTeX article style so \renewcommand{\tablename}{\textbf{Table}}% Forces Table into bold Does the first bit right but how do I get the Table number in bold? Thanks, John From axel.retif at mac.com Wed Aug 27 11:23:07 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:23:07 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> References: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> Message-ID: <8AB80612-569F-42B0-8257-18CFB05B68FA@mac.com> On 27 Aug, 2008, at 03:56, Simmie, John wrote: > Hi: I need to force Table captions into bold in an LaTeX article style > so > \renewcommand{\tablename}{\textbf{Table}}% Forces Table into bold > Does the first bit right but how do I get the Table number in bold? It would be a lot easier for you to use the caption package. It lets you modify every element of captions for both tables and figures. Chances are you already have it; so texdoc caption If you don't, http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/caption/ Best, Axel From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Wed Aug 27 11:23:54 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:23:54 +0200 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> References: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> Message-ID: Simmie, John skrev: > Hi: I need to force Table captions into bold in an LaTeX article style > so > \renewcommand{\tablename}{\textbf{Table}}% Forces Table into bold > Does the first bit right but how do I get the Table number in bold? \usepackage[labelfont=bf]{caption} From axel.retif at mac.com Wed Aug 27 11:32:47 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:32:47 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <8AB80612-569F-42B0-8257-18CFB05B68FA@mac.com> References: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> <8AB80612-569F-42B0-8257-18CFB05B68FA@mac.com> Message-ID: <5F7341EA-0091-430A-832E-A7BC6354FF2A@mac.com> On 27 Aug, 2008, at 04:23, Axel E. Retif wrote: > On 27 Aug, 2008, at 03:56, Simmie, John wrote: > >> Hi: I need to force Table captions into bold in an LaTeX article >> style >> so >> \renewcommand{\tablename}{\textbf{Table}}% Forces Table into bold >> Does the first bit right but how do I get the Table number in bold? > > It would be a lot easier for you to use the caption package. It lets > you modify every element of captions for both tables and figures. > Chances are you already have it; so > > texdoc caption Well ---that works with a 2007 distribution; if you're using TeX Live 2008, texdoc caption-eng (in TL 2008 ` texdoc caption ' produces the package documentation; ` texdoc caption-eng ' opens the user documentation in English). Best, Axel From daleif at imf.au.dk Wed Aug 27 11:33:10 2008 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:33:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> References: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> Message-ID: Simmie, John : > Hi: I need to force Table captions into bold in an LaTeX article style > so > \renewcommand{\tablename}{\textbf{Table}}% Forces Table into bold > Does the first bit right but how do I get the Table number in bold? > Thanks, John > that is the wrong way to do it. Use the caption package instead. Everything is explained in the caption package manual. > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > /daleif From lilliantadros at hotmail.com Wed Aug 27 10:22:05 2008 From: lilliantadros at hotmail.com (lilliantadros at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:22:05 +0000 Subject: [texhax] Vertical leaders alignment / Actual line width Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to format chapter titles in a frame, where the title text is aligned bottom-right, and where the bottom line of the frame is vertically aligned with the baseline (thus the title text) and also ends right before the text startes, so it looks something like this: _________________ | | |_____chapter name| If anyone is familiar with the "Glenn" style in the fncychap package, this looks basically the same... Anyway, I got up to that point, the trouble is when the text of the chapter title doesn't fit on one line. Ideally, I would want it to look like this: __________________ | | | A very long chapter| | title which spans| |______several lines| I got as far as putting it (right-aligned) in a parbox, and adjusting the vertical lengths. The trouble is with the bottom horizonal line: I give the maximum length for par-width, so doing it with rule+hfill+parbox like with single lines results in a zero-length rule, because the parbox takes up all the width. I checked out the pbox package, but it doesn't give me the width of the last line which is the one I'm interested in, and which is mostly the shortest. I have several thoughts but I'm not exactly sure whether they make sense or how to implement them: - If I could only find out the actual width of the last line, I could manually set the width of the bottom rule. But, like I said, pbox didn't calculate that. - One could integrate the bottom line INSIDE the parbox, like with leaders or something. It's the closest I got, but then it's aligned with the first par line of course. Is there a way to indicate the vertical alignment of the leaders, so I could say it should point to the bottom line? - One idea is to manually separate the lines of the parbox, but I'm not sure how, and is prob way difficult and not very clean... - I tried setting the parbox first, vskipping and hskipping back to where the bottom line should start, and then rule+fill, but of course it then ignores the parbox altogether and goes the whole textwidth (right acros the bottom line). - I thought maybe a white hrule or underline or something in the bottom of the parbox (are white chars processed at all or just ignored? Not even sure...) to overwrite the bottom rule where the bottom text is ("several lines"), but again not sure how... ANY ideas are appreciated!! Thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be?learn how to burn a DVD with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/ From hercekuros at yahoo.com Wed Aug 27 13:41:33 2008 From: hercekuros at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?VXJvxaEgSGVyw6hlaw==?=) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [texhax] longtable Message-ID: <639480.23391.qm@web110510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello, I hope you can help me. I have a problem with long table. When I insert picture in long table there is a white space at the bottom of the picture. When I use a tabular I repair this with \vspace{} , but this doesn't work in long table. Thank you for your help. Uros -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From karl at freefriends.org Thu Aug 28 00:58:06 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:58:06 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> Message-ID: <200808272258.m7RMw6T18936@f7.net> \renewcommand{\tablename}{\textbf{Table}}% Forces Table into bold Does the first bit right but how do I get the Table number in bold? I concur with the other responses that using the caption package (and I bet there are other packages too) is the best idea. But if for some reason you cannot or do not want to do that, with some trepidation, I will post what we do in tugboat.dtx: \def\fnum at figure{{\small \bf \figurename\nobreakspace\thefigure}} \def\fnum at table{{\small \bf \tablename\nobreakspace\thetable}} (We make further changes in \@makecaption to propagate the \small size, but anyway ...) Best, karl P.S. To use the above, you have to be in a context where @ is a letter. If you didn't already know that, or don't know what that means, please ignore this post entirely :). From mas at mylug.org Thu Aug 28 10:19:25 2008 From: mas at mylug.org (Sridhar M.A.) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:49:25 +0530 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <5F7341EA-0091-430A-832E-A7BC6354FF2A@mac.com> References: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> <8AB80612-569F-42B0-8257-18CFB05B68FA@mac.com> <5F7341EA-0091-430A-832E-A7BC6354FF2A@mac.com> Message-ID: <20080828081925.GA3317@localhost.loc.dom> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 04:32:47AM -0500, Axel E. Retif wrote: > > (in TL 2008 ` texdoc caption ' produces the package documentation; ` > texdoc caption-eng ' opens the user documentation in English). > Sorry for jumping in the middle. Has TeXLive 2008 been released? What I see is an iso from Dec 2, 2007. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 BOFH excuse #331: those damn raccoons! From priyam2308 at yahoo.co.in Thu Aug 28 11:44:11 2008 From: priyam2308 at yahoo.co.in (mahi mahi) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:44:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: [texhax] gradient in latex Message-ID: <689728.55028.qm@web94002.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi all, How can i created rectangular gradient in latex without using .eps. --------------------------------- Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080828/38542a52/attachment.html From mr_heller at yahoo.dk Thu Aug 28 16:09:05 2008 From: mr_heller at yahoo.dk (Martin Heller) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:05 +0200 Subject: [texhax] gradient in latex In-Reply-To: <689728.55028.qm@web94002.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <689728.55028.qm@web94002.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: mahi mahi skrev: > How can i created rectangular gradient in latex without using .eps. \documentclass{minimal} \usepackage{tikz} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture} \shade[left color=white,right color=black] (0,0) rectangle (4,2); \shade[top color=white,bottom color=black] (5,0) rectangle (9,2); \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} From chandru.mcc at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 21:09:09 2008 From: chandru.mcc at gmail.com (chandrasekhar s) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:39:09 +0530 Subject: [texhax] Beamer Package Message-ID: Respected Sir/Mam, I have been using tex for the past six months and have thoroughly enjoyed it. I have some doubts regardin the beamer package. How do we use the inner theme in the package. (Not the theme, but the inner theme). Chandrasekhar From axel.retif at mac.com Thu Aug 28 21:52:37 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:52:37 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Beamer Package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1CB0CB50-D787-4323-B1F1-75EE0E3AA7FE@mac.com> On 28 Aug, 2008, at 14:09, chandrasekhar s wrote: > Respected Sir/Mam, > > I have been using tex for the past six months and have thoroughly > enjoyed it. > > I have some doubts regardin the beamer package. > > How do we use the inner theme in the package. (Not the theme, but the > inner theme). I'm sorry that, instead of providing an answer, I'll make just a referral... There is a very helpful Beamer mailing list: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/latex-beamer-users Best, Axel From axel.retif at mac.com Fri Aug 29 00:38:54 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:38:54 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <20080828081925.GA3317@localhost.loc.dom> References: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> <8AB80612-569F-42B0-8257-18CFB05B68FA@mac.com> <5F7341EA-0091-430A-832E-A7BC6354FF2A@mac.com> <20080828081925.GA3317@localhost.loc.dom> Message-ID: On 28 Aug, 2008, at 03:19, Sridhar M.A. wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 04:32:47AM -0500, Axel E. Retif wrote: >> >> (in TL 2008 ` texdoc caption ' produces the package documentation; ` >> texdoc caption-eng ' opens the user documentation in English). >> > Sorry for jumping in the middle. Has TeXLive 2008 been released? > What I > see is an iso from Dec 2, 2007. Maybe not the final, final release, but I'm using it quite happily: http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html What platform do you use? Best, Axel From mas at mylug.org Fri Aug 29 03:31:24 2008 From: mas at mylug.org (Sridhar M.A.) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:01:24 +0530 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: References: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> <8AB80612-569F-42B0-8257-18CFB05B68FA@mac.com> <5F7341EA-0091-430A-832E-A7BC6354FF2A@mac.com> <20080828081925.GA3317@localhost.loc.dom> Message-ID: <20080829013124.GA8041@localhost.loc.dom> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 05:38:54PM -0500, Axel E. Retif wrote: > > Maybe not the final, final release, but I'm using it quite happily: > > http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html > I did visit the above link. From there I see the list of files as below ftp://ftp.comp.hkbu.edu.hk/pub/TeX/CTAN/systems/texlive/Images/ texlive-live.iso.zip 05/07/2008 03:24:00 PM texlive2007-live-20070212.iso.zip 957500 KB 02/14/2007 12:00:00 AM texlive2007-live-20070212.iso.zip.md5 1 KB 02/14/2007 12:00:00 AM texlive2007-live-20070212.iso.zip.sha256 1 KB 02/19/2007 12:00:00 AM The texlive-live.iso.zip appears to be a symlink. > What platform do you use? > Linux. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/attachments/20080829/b8593fb5/attachment.bin From axel.retif at mac.com Fri Aug 29 04:03:09 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:03:09 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <20080829013124.GA8041@localhost.loc.dom> References: <5987A522AEAB7548B380D086C85CD2418761A7@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie> <8AB80612-569F-42B0-8257-18CFB05B68FA@mac.com> <5F7341EA-0091-430A-832E-A7BC6354FF2A@mac.com> <20080828081925.GA3317@localhost.loc.dom> <20080829013124.GA8041@localhost.loc.dom> Message-ID: <6C0E19E1-5E7C-450E-8243-0CDB57E2B063@mac.com> On 28 Aug, 2008, at 20:31, Sridhar M.A. wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 05:38:54PM -0500, Axel E. Retif wrote: >> >> Maybe not the final, final release, but I'm using it quite happily: >> >> http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html >> > I did visit the above link. From there I see the list of files as > below > > ftp://ftp.comp.hkbu.edu.hk/pub/TeX/CTAN/systems/texlive/Images/ > > texlive-live.iso.zip 05/07/2008 > 03:24:00 PM > texlive2007-live-20070212.iso.zip 957500 KB 02/14/2007 > 12:00:00 AM > texlive2007-live-20070212.iso.zip.md5 1 KB 02/14/2007 > 12:00:00 AM > texlive2007-live-20070212.iso.zip.sha256 1 KB 02/19/2007 > 12:00:00 AM > > The texlive-live.iso.zip appears to be a symlink. > >> What platform do you use? >> > Linux. See ftp://tug.org/texlive/tlnet/2008/README A nephew of mine did a network install (on Windows) and it worked very nice. Best, Axel From mosgowi at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 21:06:31 2008 From: mosgowi at gmail.com (Jan de Ruijter) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:06:31 +0200 Subject: [texhax] table running over two columns Message-ID: <48B6F737.3030207@tiscali.nl> hi, I hope someone can help me with the following problem: I want to make a table with two columns. in the first column is a question and in the second (alligned) the answer. now I want this table to be printed on a page with two columns. I mean the table (with two the columns) begins in left column on the page. and now the difficult part: how can I arrange that after filling up the left column on the page, the (two column) table continues at the beginning of the right column of this page? thanks for helping me out, jan de ruijter From JonakSt at gw.kirkwood.k12.mo.us Fri Aug 29 01:43:56 2008 From: JonakSt at gw.kirkwood.k12.mo.us (Steven Jonak) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:43:56 -0500 Subject: [texhax] blank page Message-ID: <48B6F1EB.95E8.0017.0@gw.kirkwood.k12.mo.us> Sorry if this is a silly question...I truly have been looking everywhere I know to look for an answer. I've been using LaTex for a few months and am now trying to go beyond what I usually use it for. Here's what I've got: \documentclass[12pt]{book} \usepackage{amsmath,amssymb,times,epic,graphics,color,parskip} \usepackage[margin=.75in]{geometry} \setlength{\parindent}{0in} \begin{document} \frontmatter \title{Advanced Placement Calculus} \author{S. Jonak\\Kirkwood High School} \date{} \maketitle \tableofcontents \mainmatter \chapter{Precalculus Review} \section{Functions and their Graphs} What I'm getting is a blank page immediately after my title page with roman numeral ii in the header, then my table of contents, then another blank page with roman numeral iv and then finally a page with Chapter 1 on it. What is causing the blank pages? Can I get rid of them? Any help is greatly appreciated! S Jonak "Maintain an even strain." From ky2168 at stanford.edu Fri Aug 29 09:50:03 2008 From: ky2168 at stanford.edu (Kazuo Yamazaki) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [texhax] LaTeX Student In-Reply-To: <304717385.457601219995675696.JavaMail.root@zm03.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1527407074.457941219996203560.JavaMail.root@zm03.stanford.edu> Dear TUG: My name is Kazuo Yamazaki. I am a math student at Stanford University. I am a typical math student type who has dove into more theoretical side of studies and spent most of my days on blackboard rather than on computer. Consequently, I have had much trouble understanding how to use LaTeX. I really want to understand how to use this program; I have recently written a research paper with a professor and he prefers that I write the draft using LaTeX. I have already tried for a few days to understand how to use it and already ran into troubles. I wonder if I could e-mail you questions periodically and obtain help from you with promise to reply to my questions in a day, or as soon as possible, with enough detail for a beginner like myself to be able to understand. If such request requires that I become a member of TUG, please feel free to inform me as I will be more than happy to. Below I typed the questions that I already have so you get an idea of what kind of questions to expect from me: I went to the CTAN main webpage listed below: http://www.latex-project.org/ftp.html and downloaded the proTeXt. The web page explained that it has "full TeX system, including LaTeX." But where is LaTeX? After the download was complete, I opened the folder and found the following folders inside: addons, combobox-2.3, doc, gsv, Install, MiKTeX, Sources, TeXnicCenter, unsupported I understand that MiKTeX and TeXnicCenter are important features but they are different from LaTeX, aren't they? Assuming MiKTeX and TeXnicCenter are not LaTeX, only thing I could guess after hours of banging my head was that inside the folder "unsupported," there was "texmakerwin32_install" which I downloaded and obtained bunch of pictures and documents and one feature entitled "texmaker." Is that the LaTeX? But if it is LaTex, why, when I click on a button LATEX or PDFLAT, it says "Can't detect the file name"? What does that even mean? I have a similar problem with TeXnicCenter. Why, when I try to view output via F5, does it say "Cannot execute the command"? If you could help me, I would really really appreciate it. Otherwise, please advise me to somewhere else where I could get help. I look forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Kazuo Yamazaki 1339 Cuernavaca Circulo Mountain View, CA 94040 Cell: (347) 489-0059 From axel.retif at mac.com Fri Aug 29 23:23:48 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:23:48 -0500 Subject: [texhax] blank page In-Reply-To: <48B6F1EB.95E8.0017.0@gw.kirkwood.k12.mo.us> References: <48B6F1EB.95E8.0017.0@gw.kirkwood.k12.mo.us> Message-ID: On 28 Aug, 2008, at 18:43, Steven Jonak wrote: > Sorry if this is a silly question...I truly have been looking > everywhere I know to look for an answer. I've been using LaTex for > a few months and am now trying to go beyond what I usually use it for. > > Here's what I've got: > > \documentclass[12pt]{book} > \usepackage{amsmath,amssymb,times,epic,graphics,color,parskip} > \usepackage[margin=.75in]{geometry} > \setlength{\parindent}{0in} > > \begin{document} > [...] > > What I'm getting is a blank page immediately after my title page > with roman numeral ii in the header, then my table of contents, then > another blank page with roman numeral iv and then finally a page > with Chapter 1 on it. > > What is causing the blank pages? Can I get rid of them? That's how the book class should work: every chapter should begin at odd numbered pages; you can use the report class or > \documentclass[12pt,openany]{book} See http://www.ctan.org/get/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf, page 11. You might have it already ---try at your terminal or Command Prompt texdoc lshort Best, Axel From vivrii at gmail.com Sat Aug 30 00:27:55 2008 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:27:55 -0400 Subject: [texhax] blank page In-Reply-To: References: <48B6F1EB.95E8.0017.0@gw.kirkwood.k12.mo.us> Message-ID: <19af81400808291527q6dfa2d5dj4b5c9364dbf2d8ed@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Axel E. Retif wrote: > On 28 Aug, 2008, at 18:43, Steven Jonak wrote: > >> Sorry if this is a silly question...I truly have been looking >> everywhere I know to look for an answer. I've been using LaTex for >> a few months and am now trying to go beyond what I usually use it for. >> >> Here's what I've got: >> >> \documentclass[12pt]{book} >> \usepackage{amsmath,amssymb,times,epic,graphics,color,parskip} >> \usepackage[margin=.75in]{geometry} >> \setlength{\parindent}{0in} >> >> \begin{document} >> [...] >> >> What I'm getting is a blank page immediately after my title page >> with roman numeral ii in the header, then my table of contents, then >> another blank page with roman numeral iv and then finally a page >> with Chapter 1 on it. >> >> What is causing the blank pages? Can I get rid of them? > > That's how the book class should work: every chapter should begin at > odd numbered pages; you can use the report class or > >> \documentclass[12pt,openany]{book} I would suggest \documentclass[12pt,oneside,openany]{memoir} which is IMHO much better for books (highly customizable) > > See > > http://www.ctan.org/get/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf, page 11. > > You might have it already ---try at your terminal or Command Prompt > > texdoc lshort > > > Best, > > Axel > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org > -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From axel.retif at mac.com Sat Aug 30 00:45:38 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:45:38 -0500 Subject: [texhax] blank page In-Reply-To: <19af81400808291527q6dfa2d5dj4b5c9364dbf2d8ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B6F1EB.95E8.0017.0@gw.kirkwood.k12.mo.us> <19af81400808291527q6dfa2d5dj4b5c9364dbf2d8ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24AD3095-274C-4AA0-A217-E621C5F50929@mac.com> On 29 Aug, 2008, at 17:27, Victor Ivrii wrote: > I would suggest > > \documentclass[12pt,oneside,openany]{memoir} > > which is IMHO much better for books (highly customizable) Truth is I haven't used memoir yet (but I've read the amazing manual). Thank you. Axel From axel.retif at mac.com Sat Aug 30 01:10:08 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:10:08 -0500 Subject: [texhax] LaTeX Student In-Reply-To: <1527407074.457941219996203560.JavaMail.root@zm03.stanford.edu> References: <1527407074.457941219996203560.JavaMail.root@zm03.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4F321961-B0F1-4264-97ED-BBCBC452C241@mac.com> On 29 Aug, 2008, at 02:50, Kazuo Yamazaki wrote: > Dear TUG: > > My name is Kazuo Yamazaki. I am a math student at Stanford > University. I am a typical math student type who has dove into more > theoretical side of studies and spent most of my days on blackboard > rather than on computer. Consequently, I have had much trouble > understanding how to use LaTeX. I really want to understand how to > use this program; I have recently written a research paper with a > professor and he prefers that I write the draft using LaTeX. You're professor is quite right, and you won't regret learning LaTeX. Please download Prof. Gr?tzer's Short Course in http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/Math_into_LaTeX-4/ and start by reading Appendix A. You can say MiKTeX is both a distribution of TeX and friends (LaTeX, etc.) as well as the program that installs said distribution. Then read ``The not so Short Introduction to LaTeX'': http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/ Feel free to post your questions here ---this is a mailing list where users try to help other users. And if you can join TUG, it would be great. Best regards, Axel From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Sat Aug 30 04:44:12 2008 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan Litchfield) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:44:12 +1200 Subject: [texhax] LaTeX Student References: <3C4C7D44-5C20-442A-8B19-2B310143EC1B@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: <009C86CD-F767-4354-B18C-3058E39413C8@alphabyte.co.nz> Hi Kazuo, Seems you need to take a step back to the beginning, rather than trying to start in the middle. Have a look at these tutorials http://www.andy-roberts.net/misc/ latex/. They may help in understanding the relationship between LaTeX and the various editors that exist. Otherwise the Not So Short Intro here, http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/ , is deemed to be a good introduction for those that prefer to do stuff offline. Otherwise, buy George Gratzer's new More Math Into LaTeX book, which is targetted at people in your position (I see it is available from Amazon and that there is Kindle version of it, pretty cool). Cheers Alan On 29/08/2008, at 7:50 PM, Kazuo Yamazaki wrote: > Dear TUG: > > My name is Kazuo Yamazaki. I am a math student at Stanford > University. I am a typical math student type who has dove into more > theoretical side of studies and spent most of my days on blackboard > rather than on computer. Consequently, I have had much trouble > understanding how to use LaTeX. I really want to understand how to > use this program; I have recently written a research paper with a > professor and he prefers that I write the draft using LaTeX. I have > already tried for a few days to understand how to use it and already > ran into troubles. I wonder if I could e-mail you questions > periodically and obtain help from you with promise to reply to my > questions in a day, or as soon as possible, with enough detail for a > beginner like myself to be able to understand. If such request > requires that I become a member of TUG, please feel free to inform > me as I will be more than happy to. > > Below I typed the questions that I already have so you get an idea > of what kind of questions to expect from me: > > I went to the CTAN main webpage listed below: > > http://www.latex-project.org/ftp.html > > and downloaded the proTeXt. The web page explained that it has "full > TeX system, including LaTeX." But where is LaTeX? After the download > was complete, I opened the folder and found the following folders > inside: > > addons, combobox-2.3, doc, gsv, Install, MiKTeX, Sources, > TeXnicCenter, unsupported > > I understand that MiKTeX and TeXnicCenter are important features but > they are different from LaTeX, aren't they? Assuming MiKTeX and > TeXnicCenter are not LaTeX, only thing I could guess after hours of > banging my head was that inside the folder "unsupported," there was > "texmakerwin32_install" which I downloaded and obtained bunch of > pictures and documents and one feature entitled "texmaker." Is that > the LaTeX? But if it is LaTex, why, when I click on a button LATEX > or PDFLAT, it says "Can't detect the file name"? What does that even > mean? > > I have a similar problem with TeXnicCenter. Why, when I try to view > output via F5, does it say "Cannot execute the command"? > > If you could help me, I would really really appreciate it. > Otherwise, please advise me to somewhere else where I could get help. > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > Best regards, > > Kazuo Yamazaki > 1339 Cuernavaca Circulo > Mountain View, CA 94040 > Cell: (347) 489-0059 > > > > _______________________________________________ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > Mailing list archives: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/ > More links: http://tug.org/begin.html > > Automated subscription management: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax > Human mailing list managers: postmaster at tug.org -- Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 http://www.alphabyte.co.nz From axel.retif at mac.com Sat Aug 30 05:12:25 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:12:25 -0500 Subject: [texhax] LaTeX Student In-Reply-To: <009C86CD-F767-4354-B18C-3058E39413C8@alphabyte.co.nz> References: <3C4C7D44-5C20-442A-8B19-2B310143EC1B@alphabyte.co.nz> <009C86CD-F767-4354-B18C-3058E39413C8@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: On 29 Aug, 2008, at 21:44, Alan Litchfield wrote: > Otherwise, buy George Gratzer's new More Math Into > LaTeX book, which is targetted at people in your position (I see it is > available from Amazon and that there is Kindle version of it, pretty > cool). Prof. Gr?tzer's Short Course, which I recommended: http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/Math_into_LaTeX-4/ is, let's say, the free part of ``More Math Into LaTeX'' (I still have *and use* the excellent third edition and bought a copy of the fourth ed. for a nephew), and Appendix A are instructions for installing TeX et al. on Windows and Mac. Now ---I'm curious ---I don't know Kindle, but do you know or does someone know how does it look a LaTeX book on Kindle? Or scientific books in general? Best, Axel From prasad at ece.neu.edu Sat Aug 30 14:43:06 2008 From: prasad at ece.neu.edu (Prof. Sheila Prasad) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:43:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] File conversion Message-ID: I created a bibliography for my book manuscript using BibTex. The copy editors cannot open the .bib file and requested me to send them either a .bbl or .bst file. Please advise me about this file conversion. Thank you. Sheila Prasad ------------------------------------------------------------ Professor Sheila Prasad Emeritus Professor, ECE Dept. Northeastern University e-mail: prasad at ece.neu.edu From Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE Sat Aug 30 15:51:33 2008 From: Herbert.Voss at FU-Berlin.DE (Herbert Voss) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:51:33 +0200 Subject: [texhax] File conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48B95065.9050608@FU-Berlin.DE> Prof. Sheila Prasad schrieb: > I created a bibliography for my book manuscript using BibTex. The copy > editors cannot open the .bib file and requested me to send them either a > .bbl or .bst file. > Please advise me about this file conversion. In your directory of the document, where you run it by latex and bibtex exists a file file.bbl Herbert From axel.retif at mac.com Sat Aug 30 16:38:07 2008 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:38:07 -0500 Subject: [texhax] File conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D61FD15-FB91-416A-8B50-9FD70E4039B2@mac.com> On 30 Aug, 2008, at 07:43, Prof. Sheila Prasad wrote: > I created a bibliography for my book manuscript using BibTex. The copy > editors cannot open the .bib file and requested me to send them > either a > .bbl or .bst file. > Please advise me about this file conversion. > Thank you. > Sheila Prasad Prof. Voss has been kind to my fellows (I'm a copy-editor myself) --- how come they can't open your .bib file? It's a plain text file, and if you make it right, it looks something like this @BOOK{Kurzweil90, AUTHOR = {Raymond Kurzweil}, ADDRESS = {Cambridge, Massachusetts}, KEY = {Kurzweil, 1990}, PUBLISHER = {MIT Press}, TITLE = {The Age of Intelligent Machines}, YEAR = {1990} } and so on. When you run BibTeX it reads your .bib file and, following instructions from a .bst (bibliography style) file it outputs a .bbl file, which LaTeX reads to typeset your bibliography. The three are different things. Once you have a .bib file with your references as above (which can have any name, like prasad-biblio.bib), you tell LaTeX, in your preamble, which bibliography package to use; v.gr., \usepackage[round]{natbib} then, in your document, where the bibliography should appear, you put, for example, \bibliography{prasad-biblio}% \bibliographystyle{plainnat} The Natbib documentation tells you to put \bibliographystyle{xxxx} just after \begin{document}. For me, it has worked as above. Read the excellent Natbib documentation: texdoc natbib at your terminal or Command Prompt. Your .bib file doesn't have to have the same title as your LaTeX document (you can reuse it for all your papers); but the .bbl file will have the same name as your document.tex. Best, Axel From karl at freefriends.org Sat Aug 30 16:52:40 2008 From: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:52:40 -0500 Subject: [texhax] Table caption in bold "Table 3: blah blah" In-Reply-To: <20080828081925.GA3317@localhost.loc.dom> Message-ID: <200808301452.m7UEqeU32325@f7.net> Has TeXLive 2008 been released? Coming shortly. k From prasad at ece.neu.edu Sun Aug 31 07:34:16 2008 From: prasad at ece.neu.edu (Prof. Sheila Prasad) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] File conversion In-Reply-To: <48B95065.9050608@FU-Berlin.DE> References: <48B95065.9050608@FU-Berlin.DE> Message-ID: Thank you. I had the bbl file - I just missed it while going through the folder. Sheila Prasad ------------------------------------------------------------ Professor Sheila Prasad Emeritus Professor, ECE Dept. Northeastern University e-mail: prasad at ece.neu.edu On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Herbert Voss wrote: > Prof. Sheila Prasad schrieb: >> I created a bibliography for my book manuscript using BibTex. The copy >> editors cannot open the .bib file and requested me to send them either a >> .bbl or .bst file. >> Please advise me about this file conversion. > > > In your directory of the document, where you run it by latex > and bibtex exists a file file.bbl > > Herbert > From barr at math.mcgill.ca Sun Aug 31 13:49:54 2008 From: barr at math.mcgill.ca (Michael Barr) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [texhax] Odd spacing around a mathbin Message-ID: Consider the file \documentclass{article} \begin{document} $A\cup \lim(B)$ \end{document} (which could as well be a plain document). When composed and viewed, the \cup comes much closer to the A than to the lim. According to the TeXbook (p. 170 in the 17th printing), the spacing between a mathbin and either a mathord or a mathop and vice versa is supposed to be the same 2mu. I first noticed this on a tight line, where the \cup butted right against the \lim while there was still space between the A and the \cup. Sure I could insert the space by hand, but I would like to know why this is so oddly spaced and can anything systematic be done about it? Incidentally, adding italic correction has no effect. Michael From C.A.Rowley at open.ac.uk Sun Aug 31 15:39:47 2008 From: C.A.Rowley at open.ac.uk (Chris Rowley) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:39:47 +0100 Subject: [texhax] Odd spacing around a mathbin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18618.40739.247022.999860@fell.open.ac.uk> Michael Here both the diagnostics (see below) and my eyes/screen with \Huge and 400% set, show equal spacing. chris If you are familiar with list and box listings then something like the following will enable you to see in the lofg file exactly what is getting into the 'math list' and the glue in the box thus created. \documentclass{article} \begin{document} \Huge $A\cup \lim(B) \showboxdepth 1000 \showlists$ \showboxdepth 100 \showboxbreadth 100 \showlists \end{document} Chris Rowley --- On behalf of the LaTeX3 Project Team